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Cockpunch Wars --- A New OT (08/28/09)

*The previous off-topic thread has surpassed the 750 comment mark, so I have decided to make a new one.*

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The Day of Judgment will soon be upon us.  The Mariners are 66-62, and must win at least three out of the next four games to bring sweet, sweet justice down on Robert's nads.

If you're not a supporter of Robert's reign in September, perhaps you can find solace in the fact that the Mariners are playing the Royals, who are terrible.  Unfortunately, this is a .500 ballclub, so I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2-2 record.

 

In other news, Pearls Before Swine is still funny.  (http://comics.com/pearls_before_swine/)

 

Additionally, the Mariners have replaced their "A New Day, A New Way" slogan with an Ichiro hits tally.

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I always thought of a cockpunch as more of an upward motion.

Unless he’s sitting, I guess. But then it would really be easier to stomp, unless you’re short.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 28, 2009 10:12 AM PDT reply actions  

I may buy Dissidia and a PSP for exactly this reason.


I wonder if you get to kill the cat/whatever duo from FF8, that might put me over the edge.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 28, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions  

Nope.

Sephiroth is from FFVII and Tidus is FFX.

by Kirk on Aug 28, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cait Sith wasn't in FFIV.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

There were Moogles in III, V, and VI.

And Cait Sith was technically in VI as an Esper.

I don’t know if those count.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like I'm in some cantina on the set of Dark Crystal.

What in the hell are you all talking about? Jesus I’m old.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 28, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thank you, my love.

I thought I was the only one in need of a walker and a good colon-cleansing. Gosh, it’s late. 4:21PM?? I’m going to bed. Get off of my lawn. And pull your hippity-hoppity pants up.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 28, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Final Fantasy games?

I don’t think that’s nerding it up excessively. They’re about as mainstream as console RPGs can get.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

MARIO? Where are you, Mario?

That Sonic kid is playing in my yard again!

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by kevin_ess on Aug 28, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember when Sega was in the console business.

I’m sure you could find a not-broken Genesis on eBay somewhere….

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of which...

2-IN-1 GENESIS/NES CONSOLE

What the hell?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right, but does it matter?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 28, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Snow Leopard just showed up.

Finally I can use all 8 Cores in my mac.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 28, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm still trying to decide if I want to spend the money on it

I know it’s not much money, but I’ll be interested to see if you see a benefit to Snow Leopard – I’m not a very intensive computing-power user so I’m not sure if I’ll get this or just wait till the next major upgrade.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I guess it requires a intel mac.

But my brother has been running the developer copy for about a month now. In short – Yes its worth it. Everything is faster. Its like a brand new computer.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 28, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good to know

and yep, I have an Intel Mac.

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by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

For all the crap apple gets for locking down there hardware.

It allows them to make upgrades like this that improves everything.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 28, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Their.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.

by qrsouther on Sep 8, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have my copy reserved so I can pick it up on my way home.

I’m so over the top excited. Finally I can get my Macs to play nice with my Exchange server.

Speaking of, that better fucking work like a charm with all the PR they’ve put out about it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 28, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

New tactic!

They haven’t blocked mobile.lookoutlanding.com. Now I just need some gifs.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 28, 2009 11:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

.

Here you go.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 28, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know the url.

I tried m.lookoutlanding.com but that didn’t work, and I couldn’t find any information about it. I don’t have one of those fancy phones, so I never use the mobile site.

I AM NOT GOOD AT COMPUTER>

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by Eyebrows on Aug 28, 2009 11:25 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

AMERICA!

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by Eyebrows on Aug 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

Rosie O'Donnell.

Notice there’s no speaker box. She just had these installed for herself in every major ocean-adjunct city for her gay cruise stops. Nothing to see here, keep on driving to the second window…

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by kevin_ess on Aug 28, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

AMERICA FUCK YEAH!

You got slurved!

I for one welcome our sexy* moderating overlords.

by Slurvey on Aug 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently Hispanics don't care about Ichiro

because on losmarineros.com the header still says “A New Day A New Way”. Well, I guess it technically says “Un Nuevo Dia. Un Nuevo Camino” but still.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions  

I was just reading the puff-piece on Van Burkleo's caligraphic line-up cards

(here), which was followed by this oh-so -relevant comment:

Psea wrote:
Josh Wilson is a very good shortstop. He can be the next seattle A-ROD. I don’t know about nick franklin. The last few games Josh played were excellent and looks like he can put lots of home runs or put the ball in play

by msb on Aug 28, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like them.

It’s the first time I’ve ever considered buying a lineup card. Now if there was only an Ms game that held any special meaning to me.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Or lollablueza!

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by Eyebrows on Aug 28, 2009 2:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes. It's worth it.

There are very few meals that are worth NYC prices, in my modest opinion, but Peter Luger is awesome. They do one thing – meat – and they do it exceedingly well. This may sound masochistic/unhealthy/ridiculous, but get the bacon appetizer. They do good bacon.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

I’ve heard not to miss the bacon and the creamed spinach. Obviously steak is a must. I’m excited!

by royalcurve on Aug 28, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't stand creamed spinach so I can't vouch for it

but the bacon is otherworldly, and the steak is pretty much perfect. Plus it’s one of those slices of old NY that really don’t exist in very many places anymore, so it’s awesome for that as well.

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by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

But you gotta get a reservation

it’s pretty much impossible to just walk in, unless you’re going for lunch.

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by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

When you're in NYC promise me you'll go to Manitoba's

99 Ave B, in the East Village. It’s Handsome Dick Manitoba’s bar, and it’s awesome because it’s a total throwback to the NYC punk scene. Great photos on the wall, and last time I spent any time in NYC Manitoba spent a few nights a week behind the bar – now he’s got a daily Sirius radio show I’m not sure how much he’s at the bar but still.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The pictures do not do it justice.

It’s absolutely amazing bacon. It pretty much melts in your mouth, and if the flavor of the average store- or deli-bought bacon is a 3, this stuff’s about an 8 or 9.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

I’m generally not one to give 10/10 marks, because, in this instance, my bacon sample size is relatively small – grocery store stuff, a few delis here and there, countless greasy spoon breakfast places, my cousin’s butcher shop in rural Ireland, and the like – so I can’t say that I’ve had enough good bacon to say one is a 10. I’ve had enough mediocre bacon to know that the stuff at Luger is otherworldly, though.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

The combination of steak (which I've had, honestly, a handful of times in my life)

and bacon and booze it will be time for beddybye when I leave that place.

by royalcurve on Aug 28, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

And you will sleep the meatiest sleep ever

A friend of mine coined the phrase “Meat Sweats” after we had dinner there one night – he was just about done with his steak, and he couldn’t finish it and as he sat there contemplating the last few bites, he started perspiring for some reason. He had to be rolled out of there, but it was fantastic.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coined?

I’ve read that phrase before.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Aug 28, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hadn't, but it is indeed possible he didn't invent it

but I was willing to give him credit since I’d never heard or read it. Now I realize he’s just a common plagiarist. DAMN IT.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only a handful of steaks?

That makes me…. i don’t know, confused? Sad? Grateful that someone is abstaining so that I may indulge?

I eat too much steak. I know that. But awesome steak and awesome wine together is basically crack.

by marc w on Aug 28, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's true.

Probably five times, if I’m generous in the estimation. And none of them were particularly good, unfortunately. But I’m ready to rumble with Peter Luger.

by royalcurve on Aug 28, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh. I've had weeks with at least 5 steaks.

You’ll probably have a great steak at Peter Luger’s and somehow instantly know how to cook/marinade them.
(I’m extra obsessed with steaks as I was served a horrible filet mignon tonight. Weren’t aware that filet mignon could actually be horrible? Neither was I!).

by marc w on Aug 29, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

There are no prices listed.

Which can only mean that I don’t want to know.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is....not cheap.

I think the last time I went there the bill for two was in the $300 range – but then that also included booze. But still, you’re looking at $50 and up for steak. But damn is it good.

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by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and RC, don't forget that Peter Luger's does not accept credit/debit cards

at least they didn’t a couple years ago. Cash or check.

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by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their website says:
NOTE: Peter Luger Steakhouse does not accept any credit cards except the Peter Luger Card.

by Wilder. on Aug 28, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bring cash.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 28, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've been warned about this.

I think it’s going to be the main expense while I’m there, frankly. But I’m fully prepared to enjoy every morsel, every crumb.

by royalcurve on Aug 28, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Went to the Brooklyn Peter Luger as a poor college kid 2 years ago.

The place was worth every penny. In Seattle I’ve been to Daniels Broiler, The Met, Jack’s, and El Gaucho. None of them even held a candle to Peter Luger’s. The bacon appetizer is a must get but personally I would avoid the creamed spinach.

As for price range. I went with my girlfriend and we had the steak for two, beer, and the bacon appetizer. Including a 20% tip I THINK I spent about $150. From what I remember the steak for 2 was $80.

by tintin on Aug 28, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait are you one of the people in the crowd?

You got slurved!

I for one welcome our sexy* moderating overlords.

by Slurvey on Aug 28, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh

You got slurved!

I for one welcome our sexy* moderating overlords.

by Slurvey on Aug 28, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

After reading "Odd Man Out", I'm more knowledgeable about Aybar's clubhouse behavior than I want to be.

Let’s just say that the nickname “The Humper” might be an understatement.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 28, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is amazing.

You got slurved!

I for one welcome our sexy* moderating overlords.

by Slurvey on Aug 28, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fantastic

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Aug 28, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

In case anyone is particularly interested,

Someone turned me onto Phillippe Aumont’s blog. Turns out he fractured his non throwing hand the other day, punching his locker. He was due to see a hand specialist in Seattle on Wednesday.

by royalcurve on Aug 28, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Hooray, my French classes already have a practical use.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's pretty straightforward though.

Gotta practice…

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I chose Japanese and Google Translator for that is very funky at times.

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I for one welcome our sexy* moderating overlords.

by Slurvey on Aug 28, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

If by funky you mean hilarious.

A friend of mine had a band in high school and for a while was translating songs he wrote into Japanese, and then back into English, several times over. The results were hilarious, but sadly they lost all their copies in a computer crash followed by mp3.com incompetence. They are either utterly lost or on a desktop I haven’t used in over ten years.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouais.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably one of the intermediate ones.

You know, after they have you speak like a kindergartner for a year.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aha.

“RHP Phillipe Aumont has been placed on the 7-Day DL (left hand) prior to tonight’s game one with the Birmingham Barons at Pringles Park. The Canadian hurler is 1-4 with the D-Jaxx this season with a 5.09 ERA. Aumont has converted four out of seven save chances. Aumont suffered two losses during the previous series against the Huntsville Stars.”

did the hand come after the blown saves?

by msb on Aug 28, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

After, I'm guessing.

He talks about the passed balls and hits finding holes and various frustrations because he believes himself to be pitching better than his numbers indicate.

He said the pain was going away and at most he’d need a bandage on one of the fingers of his glove hand, but they didn’t want to take any chances.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 28, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I'll be in Grass Creek not this Monday, but the following

What should I do to rightfully claim it as Mariner territory?

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Aug 28, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions  

All Grass Creek has is a sign that reads

“GRASS CREEK
ELEV XX
POP XX”

Maybe I’ll go subtle and just put an Ichiro bobblehead on top of the sign and take a picture, or something along those lines

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Aug 28, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aw.

Oasis had three good albums in the nineties, and while they’re released zero good albums this decade, they had still been making fine songs. Sad to see them go.

by katal on Aug 28, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many albums did they end up releasing?

I thought this achewood strip about them was probably painfully close to the truth, and it’s 6 years old.

by marc w on Aug 29, 2009 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

They had eight albums all together.

Of the eight, their ‘98 release, The Masterplan, is the only one that is completely worthless. All of their 2000’s material, except maybe Standing On the Shoulder of Giants, are at least worth listening to. They’re not all bad.

by katal on Aug 29, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wonderwall has the worst lyrics of any song I have ever heard and I can't believe anyone ever liked them.

Slowly walking down the hall faster than a cannonball? WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT MEAN. IT MEANS NOTHING

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 29, 2009 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

It means that he is high so his perception of time is fucked up.

I think that’s the best interpretation I can come up with.

by Kirk on Aug 29, 2009 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lyrics are the last thing that makes a song good.

Oasis is great at creating music, lyrics be damned.

And I hope you realize you quoted Champagne Supernova, not Wonderwall.

by Wilder. on Aug 29, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever, all their songs sound the same.

Lyrics are unimportant in some bands, but not bands like Oasis, especially since the entire world slobbered all over Noel Gallagher’s knob for years.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 29, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The whole thing looked and felt like media hype.

One huge industry construction for the next big band to storm the world. Ick.

by Kermit. on Aug 29, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is so true. It's a bit easy, but: a day in the life of an NME music reviewer:

8:00 – Woke up to Radio 2. Terry Wogan’s still an annoying blowhard, but my world stopped when I heard Paramore on my new RCA alarm clock (with cd). Every song that had been forced down my throat for years transmuted into aural manna. Every pathetic excuse for ‘alternative’ sounding frighteningly like thousands of fists pounding on the gates of suburbia. I feel alive.

8:40 – Shower. Can’t speak; my routine has been irrevocably shaken. Pantene Classic Care shampoo. Remember the name. An entire industry – an industry founded upon overblown claims and sex-mad rhetoric – lies in ruins because someone had the guts to bring something new to the party. Truth. I look fabulous, by the way.

9:30 – The communte, which normally takes 10 minutes, took 30. And I’m in my cube weeping that it’s over. Tube wasn’t running, which means I took a bus for the first time in, oh, 20 years. I just wish I could fully communicate how much life, how much drama and how much this messy, polyglot, riotous town clicked into focus on route 25. This bus will change travel forever. Every car seemed even smaller, shrinking from our proud red form like cockroaches from the light. This bus destroyed everything I thought I knew about moving about – or about London itself – and I cannot wait to see where it takes me next. If you’re reading this and you still ride the tube, you are hereby retarded. If you – god help you – drive to work, every rider on every bus in the capital will be shagging your wife by Friday. Mark it down.

11:45 – Apparently taking me anywhere I could get a fucking balti pie was just a bit too much to ask. Fucking buses.

by marc w on Aug 30, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions   8 recs

You exist on an entirely different plane

I’m not sure if it’s just the occasional flash or just everyday life, but it looks like fun.

by Kermit. on Aug 31, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brilliant!

I think that most music reviewing is trending in that direction though, if not unabashed deconstructionist wankery.

Incidentally, I was reading the other day that NME originally gave The Stone Roses’ self-titled album a seven out of ten, and then in 2000 named it the greatest album ever, followed in later years by greatest British album and greatest debut album. I recognize that they probably listen to more music than I do, but I don’t think any of those statements are really accurate.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 31, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Arctic Monkeys thing has basically put them beyond parody.

I wanted to work in something about these ridiculous made-up ‘feuds’ between bands; you’re either with Blur or you’re with Pulp, and if you’re with either of those, then you’re anti-Oasis, etc. That and declaring so-and-so is ‘God’ every once in a while.
(Agreed that most music reviewing is trending this way, but… they started it!)

by marc w on Aug 31, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Arctic Monkeys...

(sigh) I had nearly forgotten about them. I never figured out what all the fuss was about there, but I remember a bunch of people incoherently babbling about how they were the greatest British band since the Beatles, which wasn’t exactly a selling point for me, particularly after one album.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 31, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, NME still has it one of the top 3 or 4 albums of all time.

They said they were the hope of rock and roll or something on the basis of their demo tape. Again, the US does this to some extent (Black Kids), but the offenders seem to be on-line/electronic outlets, and I suspect they do so sometimes with the knowledge that a modicum of hyperbole may help improve page views or something.
Hell, maybe Rolling Stone or whoever does the same thing, I have no idea. Part of what I’m reacting to is the fact that print journalism about new music is still seen as relevant over there, and that idea just seems quaint. But also cool.

by marc w on Aug 31, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the fifth time?

Wonderwall has become how long their bunk beds have remained separate and not a shattered pile of IKEA wood.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 28, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU.

And as Mogwai says on my old faded t-shirt, “Oasis and Blur are Shite”*

*Although I must say Blur is FAR superior to Oasis.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 28, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mogwai!

Andrew Raycroft for backup? Does not compute.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 30, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Meh.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 31, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fabulous annotated clip

from a wonderfully bad cop flick set in Seattle, McQ

by msb on Aug 29, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Both of those are terribly disorienting.

The guy gets on 1-5N, and so the guy catches up by doing laps in the ID for about 5 minutes, and then he’s on the 5 south, and then meets up with him at the Mercer street exit.

The second video, they’re heading south, almost to the Kingdome, and then all of a sudden they’re racing on the walkway to the ferry terminal. They’ve crossed over to the ferry building, then a jump shot back to stairs in Pioneer square, then back to the ferry terminal.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Aug 30, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Scorchy contains one of my favorite scenes in cinema, the dune buggy chase through seattle.

Maybe it’s in the clip, but that movie will always hold a special place in my heart for that alone. You just don’t see dune buggies anymore. Where have you gone, Speed Buggy?

by marc w on Aug 30, 2009 11:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

First heard about Scorchy in the 'Seattle on Film' book

that came out in the mid 90s. Not bad at all, though I wonder if you couldn’t do another volume the same size just using 1995-present.

by marc w on Aug 31, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bad bad news for the Cards, from Rotoworld:

Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan may leave the organization after the year.
Duncan is upset at the perceived handling of his son, Chris Duncan, by both the Cardinals media and front office. Tony LaRussa’s right-hand man since 1983 has also lost influence with the front office, no longer being consulted on decisions and not seeing his philosophy mesh with the minor league philosophy. Duncan insists any decision will come in the off-season and be a professional, not personal decision. Color us skeptical. Duncan is possibly the best pitching coach in the game now that Leo Mazzone has retired. He won’t have trouble finding a job.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Aug 30, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Yay.

We can look forward to seeing Miley Cyrus and the Jonas Brothers in the next Spider-Man movie.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 31, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buh-huh?

I don’t know about this. I don’t think I care all that much since the movies have gotten rather silly (was dragged into X-Men Origins: Wolverine some months ago), but at this point it looks like Disney is continuing to use what capital they have to buy up other studios to think up these ideas so they don’t have to. Pixar stuff aside, they haven’t had a decent animated release in years.

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by JY on Aug 31, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, True Blood is a mess this season.

I was enjoying it for the first half of this season, but it’s really gone sideways in the last three or so episodes. I was hoping the payoff with this season’s Big Bad was going to be a little more satisfying and enjoyable than it is.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 31, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I haven't watched last night's yet (no spoilers!) but otherwise I've actually really liked this season.

I am glad they finally started to clarify who/what Maryann is, and I’m glad that Eric has been given a bigger role – I find Bill to be boring and irrelevant and I’m glad his role is smaller this season.

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by pdb on Aug 31, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with you

I actually think this season started a little slow, but it’s been building a bit.
Bill IS fairly boring, isn’t he? And Sookie herself is still an annoying little shit, but the show works despite this. Or, the show is enjoyable despite the fact that the leads are probably the worst characters and the whole thing is deeply silly. But enjoyable!

by marc w on Aug 31, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bill is very one-note

Bill? I get it. You were made a vampire in a more genteel age. But guess what? Everyone else in your little vampire clan has adapted to modern times, you could too. Stop talking like an 1850’s grandfather, stop demanding Sookie be nothing but a kept woman and always trying to keep her out of harm’s way (seriously, she’s annoying but she can take care of herself pretty well), and let the interesting people do stuff.

I would love to see a spinoff of True Blood with nothing but Eric and Lafayette. Wacky roommate hijinks!

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by pdb on Aug 31, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't forget to throw Jason in there.

He has quietly become my favorite character this season.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 31, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always liked Jason, even last year

so yeah, he could be in the show too.

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by pdb on Aug 31, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I like the side characters more than the main ones.

The Hoyt/Jessica thing has been great throughout and both Bellefleurs have been awesome for much of the season. Jason is probably my favorite main character at the moment, if not Sam, though his development has stalled a bit.

I think Maryann serves her purpose in some ways after last season, but it’s gone on a fair bit longer than reasonable without much of anything happening.

Gonna watch the new episode tonight…

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by JY on Aug 31, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last season, Tara stole it. This year it's Jason/Maryann/Sam

It almost seems like it’s designed – a couple of grey, wooden leads wandering around through a neon/technicolor backdrop.

by marc w on Aug 31, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

We should totally play.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 31, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Sir,

Good day and compliments. This letter will definitely come to you as a huge surprise, but I implore you to take the time to go through it carefully as the decision you make will go off a long way to determine the future and continued existence of the entire members of my family.

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Dr. (Mrs.) Mariam Abacha, the wife of the late head of state and commander in chief of the armed forces of the federal republic of Nigeria who died on the 8th of June 1998.

My ordeal started immediately after my husband’s death on the morning of 8th June 1998, and the subsequent take over of government by the last administration. The present democratic government is determined to portray all the good work of my late husband in a bad light and have gone as far as confiscating all my late husband’s assets, properties, freezing our accounts both within and outside Nigeria. As I am writing this letter to you, my son Mohammed Abacha is undergoing questioning with the government. All these measures taken by past/present government is just to gain international recognition.

I and the entire members of my family have been held incommunicado since the death of my husband, hence I seek your indulgence to assist us in securing these funds. We are not allowed to see or discuss with anybody. Few occasions I have tired traveling abroad through alternative means all failed.

It is in view of this I have mandated DR GALADIMA HASSAN, who has been assisting the family to run around on so many issues to act on behalf of the family concerning the substance of this letter. He has the full power of attorney to execute this transaction with you.

My late husband had/has Eighty Million USD ($80,000,000.00) specially preserved and well packed in trunk boxes of which only my husband and I knew about. It is packed in such a way to forestall just anybody having access to it. It is this sum that I seek your assistance to get out of Nigeria as soon as possible before the present civilian government finds out about it and confiscate it just like they have done to all our assets.

I implore you to please give consideration to my predicament and help a widow in need.

May Allah show you mercy as you do so?

Your faithfully,

Dr (Mrs.) Mariam Abacha (M.O.N)

N/B: Please contact Dr Galadima Hassan on this e-mail address for further briefing and modalities

by seattlebruin on Aug 31, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

My wife and I have rediscovered our love for Catan with an online version.

What’s your beef with Catan? No games can be all things to everyone, but it’s hard to argue with its success.

by PDXTai on Aug 31, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Reprinted from my FB
I finally figured out why I hate this God damn game so much. It’s that there’s an active disincentive (the robber) to play well, whereas there’s no disincentive to do well by getting lucky (lots of 11’s rolled, etc.)

Plus, you’re at the mercy of other players, which makes it even dumber.

Additionally, the live version of the game takes FOREVER, especially when you play with game-playing cripples (the kind of people who don’t pay attention to the game, and/or make the same stupid joke every time someone asks for a wood card from the pile)

Any game that combines luck with a disincentive for playing well is garbage to me.

by seattlebruin on Aug 31, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

The penalty for leading is fairly small.

It’s a common game mechanic to keep a game close. Without, it’s very hard to overcome someone who jumps out to an early lead.

Playing with people who take forever always stinks whether it’s Catan or waiting for Batista to throw a GD pitch. One solution is to not play with those people. Another involves a stopwatch and a cattle prod.

We make the same stupid jokes over and over while playing Catan. It’s become part of the game. What’s the joke about getting a card from the wood pile. Ours is to say “major wood” in any turn you get more than one wood.

The other replayed joke is to trade with your card face down and give someone the same thing they just gave you:
Player 1: “I’d like a wood and have a sheep”
Player 2: “No thanks.”
Player 1: “Anyone want my sheep?”
Player 3: “Sure, here you go.”
Player 1: “Wait, I wanted a wood…”
Hilarity ensues.

by PDXTai on Aug 31, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody know anything about carbon front forks?

Mine broke in my recent unpleasantness, and I need to replace it. They range in price from about $179 to over $500, but I have no idea what differentiates a $500 fork from a $200 one. Is it just weight, or are there performance differences as well (assuming identical dimensions to my current fork)?

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by pdb on Aug 31, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

You'd think that you'd want abender around for that one as opposed to a bike issue.

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by Faux on Aug 31, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

?

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2008/9/25/621662/off-topic-fanpost-of-the-d#8987997

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by Faux on Aug 31, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

These are incredible.

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by JY on Aug 31, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've played around more on the mountain bike side, but I asked a friend that races road bikes, and here's his answer:
big (price) ones will give you better shock guard and less vibs (vibration/road hum). get a lower of good name over top of bad name. drop bito (a bit ‘o) weight and u don’t need a big (price) one.

Partial translation in (italics).

Talking to him after that thing I got in reply, he explained that it goes up incrementally for each jump in level. I.E. the 500$ is only 5-10% better than the 400$ at damping vibrations. He said that a mid-priced one that is on the low to mid of a good brand’s range is better than the top knockoff fork of the same price. I didn’t have time to ask him what brands he likes, but I’ve only seen him ride Alpha-Q and Reynolds Ouzo.

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by Faux on Aug 31, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Name the pitcher who did this today:

Top 1st:
Single
Walk
Double
Double
Double
Home run

by Graham MacAree on Aug 31, 2009 10:22 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Disturbing thought:

My company sells this. No, I’m not sure why.

We also accept returns, no questions asked.

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by Faux on Aug 31, 2009 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

If they were like 20$, I would have bought a blue one.

I can’t believe they retail for 130$.

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by Faux on Aug 31, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

What to choose, what to choose ...

I mean … the music butterfly? the futon dryer? the watering air freshener?

by msb on Aug 31, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude I can't believe I didn't run in to you there

We were in Rockaway/Tillamook ourselves.

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by pdb on Sep 1, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never ever dawned on me.

In hindsight, it’s obvious.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 1, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

So after a night to sleep on it

I still don’t know what the hell the Dodgers are thinking

by Poochie on Sep 1, 2009 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree.

They never should have left Brooklyn.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 1, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I miss you, Derrick Fenner.

Though Chris Warren helped to ease the pain.

by marc w on Sep 1, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, with David Beckham?

I hear he’s really good, I wonder if they know him?

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by Faux on Sep 1, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Derrick Fenner was the Seahawks rushing leader in 1990; he also led the AFC in TDs that year.

He had been imprisoned for murder in the late 80s, but the conviction was overturned. From wrongly imprisoned to out-of-nowhere RB ‘star’ in about 2, 2.5 years.
Then, just as suddenly, he was crappy and then in Cincinatti.
His replacement, another no-name guy, became a minor star in the league and was in all respects a better football player.

Thank you for your interest in the Seahawks of Yore!

by marc w on Sep 1, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carl Furillo was "The Reading Rifle"

Which is an awesome nickname until you realize that it had nothing to do with the manner in which he distributed books to needy kids and more to do with the fact that he was from southeastern Pennsylvania.

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by pdb on Sep 1, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I was a kid I thought the Reading Railroad was about books as well.

East coast bias rears it’s ugly head again.

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by Faux on Sep 1, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn buggy-riders.

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by Faux on Sep 1, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus fuck, I can't believe I apostrophed (-phized?) that.

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by Faux on Sep 1, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anybody else only have one personal email account?

It really sucks when gmail is down and reminds me that I need to set up a backup.

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by pdb on Sep 1, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Try iGoogle.com

E-mail and chat work through there. Not sure about Docs or Calendar, though.

by Teej on Sep 1, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those things are all a conspiracy to make repair shops money.

Just like the stickers that tell you you need to change your oil.

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by Faux on Sep 1, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good news!

You can get a new engine for those for like 25$ online. (Not really, but closer than you’d think)

She had a good life, though, no matter how much longer she lasts.

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by Faux on Sep 1, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

Not sure what to make of Rodriguez other than that he’s the Vlad Guerrero to the M’s AAA affiliate.
I’d love a SS prospect with a .300+ ISO-P (yeah yeah, park aided, but still), but with his contact struggles make me wonder if he’ll ever do much in the AL.
On the plus side, it makes getting Brignac slightly more possible, I’d think.

by marc w on Sep 1, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it's tough to compare a HS kid to a college trained bat.

And in any event, the K rate is the major problem, which sounded Wlad-like rather than Clementine.
correcting for park effects, Rodriguez and Balentien have essentially an identical slash line – Rodriguez a few more BBs, Wlad more ISO-P. Rodriguez walk rate peaked early in his career, while Wlad’s grew. They both struggled with Ks, obviously, and both looked lost in MLB call-ups.
Defensive value changes the picture dramatically, but purely as a bat, he’s a spitting image of Wlad.

by marc w on Sep 1, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

But I got a perfecto on the Monopoly card challenge.

http://mentalfloss.com/quiz/quiz.php?q=739

I dare anyone to best my knowledge of Monopoly.

I forget where it is, but I got all of the spaces on whatever quiz site had those.

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by Faux on Sep 1, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

And interesting thing:

http://www.mentalfloss.com/amazingfactgenerator/?p=808#scroll

The phrase "Mr. Mojo Risin’," repeated by Jim Morrison in the Doors’ song "L.A. Woman," is an anagram of the vocalist’s name.

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by Faux on Sep 1, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife does so I steal hers

it alternates between amazing and “why bother” for me – some of their lists are things like like “10 different kinds of cheese!” which is boring, but some of the stuff is really interesting.

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by pdb on Sep 1, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

The one on the left periodically looks annoyed that she has to keep doing this dance.

Be a professional. Sell the character, sell the fantasy. No, this isn’t Shakespeare, but people are going to see it and see you, and you should do your best.

by marc w on Sep 1, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Is that from Reno 911?

Dangle coaching the two hookers’ acting style…

by appleshampoo on Sep 1, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why hasn't Broberto been modded yet!

I thought we had an honest bet going here…

by appleshampoo on Sep 1, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Safety first, kids

but if you’re style-conscious, I guess safety second?

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by pdb on Sep 2, 2009 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb.

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by Faux on Sep 2, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was the same way.

But having just concussed myself I’d have to say I’ll take the fashion hit and look stupid if it’s more protective.

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by pdb on Sep 2, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still hate my ski helmet, and the bike helmet.

Pro rodeo had a hard time implementing the vests. Amusing in a not so funny way how safety equipment calls into question your masculinity. Or attractiveness but perhaps they’re the same thing, or associated.

by Kermit. on Sep 2, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shopped.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Sep 2, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Probably not.

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by Faux on Sep 2, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected.

Holy crap.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Sep 2, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heh heh.

Stephen Pastis, the creator of Pearls Before Swine writes a blog. One day he made this post.

And one day he got this comment.

Please let this be real.

Career Safeco Record: 7-2

by .Taylor on Sep 2, 2009 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

I would die of shame.

Then again, my neighbors think I have a twin because I was so embarassed about being anti social when I moved in. So I told them the other one was my sister.

by royalcurve on Sep 2, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I desperately hope this catches on

Although it doesn’t have the rhyming properties of “round pound” I could do without .99 pricing. While we’re at it, can we go the Australian route and do away with the physical penny entirely?

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by pdb on Sep 2, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

If you're being serious can explain to me why they do it?

I have never understood the reasoning of this and it may just be because I am young.

by Kirk on Sep 2, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never fully understood it myself

but I think it’s the same psychology as why something’s priced at $9.99 instead of $10. It looks cheaper, even if it’s really not. Also, if I remember right, that 9/10 is profit for the gas station, not the gas company.

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by pdb on Sep 2, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone gave me a lengthy explanation once, I believe the central reasoning revolved around taxes.

But that is politics and besides, it was one of those hurricane force rationalizations that when completed, leave me completely befuddled as to what just happened. So I’m old and I still have no idea

by Kermit. on Sep 2, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Never give up! Never Surrender!
Although Flowers is considered a rising star in the organization and a top prospect, playing the young catcher is not the best way for the White Sox to keep their fledgling playoff hopes alive. And manager Ozzie Guillen believes those playoffs hopes still exist.

“If I do that, then I give up, and I’m not going to give up,” said Guillen of going extremely young within his lineup during the final month. "I don’t care. If they give up, that’s their problem. I never will give up.

“When we are out, then we play the kids. I hope I don’t have to play them. But when we get to that point, we will play the kids.”

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Sep 2, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

That's a failure of Kenny Williams rather than Ozzie Guillen

I’m no huge fan of Guillen, but Williams is his boss. He should call Ozzie in and say “Play the damn kids or you’re fired”, but he never will.

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by pdb on Sep 2, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

God I love this band.

They’re still putting out good records, too.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I got to see Local H open up for Creed waaaaay back in the day (when I thought Creed was cool).

But it was at the Key Arena, and we were sitting in the 300 level beside the stage. All I could hear was the bass drum and some muddled lyrics.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 3, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Check this out

Local H covering the always awesome, kick-your-ass Rocket From The Crypt.

In a related note, The Night Marchers, John Reis’ latest band, is at Berbati’s on Sunday.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

This might be better than youkike01

For those of you that don’t follow tech, TechCrunch is like the National Enquirer of technology reporting. You get all sorts of baseless accusations and innuendo, with the occasional gem like this:
NetBase Thinks You Can Get Rid Of Jews With Alcohol And Salt

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Results found under Treatment for Condition.

Rally monkey: clip, day off, Shrek, SG-1.

Rob Johnson: contract extension, ex-olivetti employee, Flutie’s Chargers, solo anchor, stir.

Baseball: steroids, performance enhancing drugs, clay, monkey testosterone.

by Kermit. on Sep 3, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't stop laughing at this.

I put a link to it on facebook even. Great find.

by Kirk on Sep 3, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whooooops

Nice one Chelsea. Between this and the Adrian Mutu fiasco, it seems that nobody in the Chelsea boardroom knows how to run a football team.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

:( :( :( :( :(

Wait the Mutu thing went perfectly

by Graham MacAree on Sep 3, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was perfect

Except that instead of sending the player to a clinic, ensuring it succeeded, and protecting him until it did, as pretty much every other club has done with their substance-abusing players, they fired him and demanded that he pay them a ridiculous sum that he will never be able to pay, that they made up based on his presumed future transfer value. Go Roman!

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's screwing and then there's ruining, though

If you’re his old team and you want to punish him somehow, fine him €2 million or something that he actually has a chance of paying – he could play for 10 years and not recoup the €17 million they’re demanding. Don’t hold him responsible for an amount that you may not have ever realized anyway.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

It just feels like a slippery slope

What’s to stop a team from demanding that any player pay exorbitant amounts of money if their signing doesn’t work out for some reason?

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they do something fireable it seems perfectly reasonable

It’s really, really, really hard to get fired from a team while you’re under contract

by Graham MacAree on Sep 3, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

In US sports any contract worth that much has insurance.

If the player up and dies (or breaks a leg or does drugs or whatever) the insurance covers that, knowing that most players do not.

If they didn’t put adequate insurance on the contract, how does it make that his fault?

Note – I don’t know the particulars of this situation, but just googling the news stories sounds like they overpaid for him from another club, and he had no control over how much money changed hands. That seems to be another argument that maybe it all shouldn’t rest on his shoulders?

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

But again, pretty much every other team in history

has either cut such a player loose with nothing, or invested the time and money to make the player functional again – why is Chelsea taking such a hard line here?

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll just back out now, because it's obvious we have very different views on drug abuse

and neither one of us will understand where the other is coming from.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re:
He made himself defective, therefore it was his fault.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I understand that philophy, I just don't agree with it in a lot of cases.

But I’ve found that arguing about it doesn’t get anyone anywhere. It’s my own personal [zomg], as of late.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, but I'm not talking about drug abuse

If Mutu had taken steroids, or committed a deportation-worthy crime, or whatever, this wouldn’t be any different from my point of view.

by Graham MacAree on Sep 3, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then maybe I'm not catching something besides drugs that he did from the four articles I read?

Because unlike the other things you mentioned, drug abuse is something that people don’t always have control over.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

This discussion will spiral out of control very quickly

but I will say that I agree with Graham in that the initial choice to take drugs is just that – a choice.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Which is exactly why I don't want to go down that road.

It only leads to ruin.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

At the end of the day, someone is liable?

Is it Chelsea? Is it Mutu? I don’t know the legalese involved but the courts are favouring Chelsea right now which says to me that a provision for this was written into the contract. You can talk fairness all you like, but when you’re fueding with the club management, are hated by the fans, and you’re playing like shit everyone will want blood, and if they can get it they’ll take it.

So yes, it’s unfair, and I theoretically sympathise, but this is like having the ability to make Jarrod Washburn pay you back his contract.

by Graham MacAree on Sep 3, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

:(

I was hoping to get someone in to replace Anelka after this season.

Before this season, actually.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Sep 3, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Champions

I’m happy for Keller, I’m happy for the fans who made the trip, I’m happy to laugh at Wicks little temper tantrum, and I’m happy to celebrate the Sounders first Open Cup.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions   3 recs

I think he believed Fredy hit him in the head trying to tap in the chance Zakuani had about 5 min. before

Besides being a completely legal play, I don’t think Fredy did more than graze the top of Wicks head, but he seemed mad he didn’t get a call.
The other factor is that Wicks used to play for the Timbers (and the Whitecaps), which I think tells you all you really need to know.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

So I'm having this strange probLLem

where the right edge of the comment box does this:
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which causes the last two words or so of a comment to not be visible until I hit “post”. This only happens on replies – the comment box at the bottom of the screen is fine.

Anybody else having this problem?

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

It looks like the comment box is stuck at a specified width. It goes out further with each deeper level of replies.

If they’re breaking something that usually means they’re also trying to fix something else.

(please let it be comment threads w/o the OP)

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't get to twitter or nhl.com from my work comp.

But I just got a tweet from the M’s that Saunders is a Canucks fan, and a corresponding link to nhl.com.
http://is.gd/2Q8IS is the link, I think. But that capital i might be a lowercase L.http://is.gd/2Q8lS

I want to know how LL is blocked by my company on the BB, but not on my computer at my desk.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

The Washington Redskins

sued a 73-year-old woman into oblivion for asking to be released from a multi-year season ticket contract.

Now, this old lady probably should have shown up in court to explain the situation, but suing some poor grandma who has fallen onto hard times for $66,364 seems like a questionable PR decision.

by BrianL on Sep 3, 2009 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Nice.

Who gave you the fraudulent check?
The no-armed man!

It seems like they would have a harder time finding someone by thumbprint than they would by his face on the camera and the fact that HE HAS NO ARMS.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take your small victories and be happy with them

Which would you rather from your team

- Personal Seat Licenses
- Full price tickets for meaningless exhibitions
- No mobile beer vendors

OR

- Personal Seat Licenses
- Full price tickets for meaningless exhibitions
- No mobile beer vendors
- Team may sue you for breach of contract if you can’t pay for season tickets

by seattlebruin on Sep 3, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

A piece of my cable bill goes to the league.

And I’ll probably rent or buy Madden at some point. And I was offered a free ticket to a game at Qwest this winter, and I accepted, because I’m a hypocrite.

by Teej on Sep 3, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Renting the game does not get the league any money.

The rental company already paid the price for the game so the money you pay just helps the Blockbuster or Hollywood Video or whatever that you are renting from.

by Kirk on Sep 3, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

True,

but in a broad sense, my rental plays a tiny role in how many copies of the game the store will purchase next year. And if a bunch of people are renting, the video store (or GameFly) might buy more copies. Or if I rent the last copy, the next guy to show up might be so in need of some Madden that he’ll go buy it because there are no rental copies.

I’m thinking way too much about this and making it look like I care way more than I do, but yeah, rentals influence the market at least somewhat.

by Teej on Sep 3, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

At Hollywood Video how many times a game is rented doesn't matter for how many our company buys.

It has to do with how many copies are pre ordered from the the store. We get 1.5 copies for rent for every copy pre ordered.

by Kirk on Sep 3, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh. Interesting.

I assume you’re talking about a Game Crazy in the building? I didn’t know they were that intertwined.

by Teej on Sep 3, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

College football is so much more interesting than the NFL it's not even funny.

Sometimes you want to watch the best in the world go at it, and sometimes you want to watch the almost-best-in-the-world do crazy shit that they would never dream of trying at the highest levels.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 3, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a passion in college sports that is missing at the pro levels.

However I hate how much of a money machine the NCAA has become while basically robbing their employees.

by Sec 108 on Sep 3, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I detest the NCAA as an organization

but college football (assuming you are not emotionally involved in the outcome) is way more interesting than the NFL.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 3, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it is more than that.

Having in lived in some very rural parts of this country as a kid I saw the rabid college fan phenomenon up close. People who live in states with no true professional sports tend to gravitate to the college sports. They make the 2-3 hour drive every other week to watch games and their families get to do their big shopping trips at the same time.

Also, from a historical perspective, college sports have existed longer than pro sports in this country so they have deeper roots with their fanbase.

by Sec 108 on Sep 3, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thing I can't get over is attaching yourself artificially to a university

I get that we’re all attached to professional franchises otherwise but yeah being a fan of a college is really really weird

by Graham MacAree on Sep 3, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

As an aside, I've always thought this was pretty interesting;

Evergreen is not a very popular school in the South Sound area. Sure, plenty of grads stick around and amongst the state workers and weirdos it enjoys a sterling reputation, but get outside of the city center and the reputation goes south. People protest there all the time, write letters to the editor, etc. It’s a running joke amongst grads (and it has a fair amount of basis in reality) that an Evergreen degree is worth more the farther away you get from the campus.

A few years back, though, Evergreen had a really, really excellent basketball team. They play in a very small subdivision, but they were nationally ranked (I think reaching as high as #3 at one point,) they were fun to watch, and the stories of some of then kids on the team made them easy to root for. And for the couple of years that they had a competitive athletic program, there was a very noticeable change in the way the community felt about Evergreen. People that never would have dreamed to set foot on campus came to games, they developed a fun rivalry with St. Martin’s, people stopped protesting and writing angry letters to the editor as much. It was neat.

And then all the good players graduated or transferred, the basketball team went back to sucking and everyone went back to hating Evergreen.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I loved the pots-and-pans band.

Apparently they’re good again. Neat. I remember people were lobbying to get a baseball team. Wonder if there was ever any headway made on that.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 3, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Evergreen has a really nice swimming pool but no team as far as I can remember.

Its a shame too because they would be one of two or three colleges in the state with one if they were to get one.

by Kirk on Sep 3, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Geographic pride is a big part of it for me.

I was born in Boise and lived there for 18 years, so even though I went out of town for college, the memories of rooting for them are there, and seeing the blue turf on ESPN is awesome. Plus I have a lot of friends who go there.

by appleshampoo on Sep 3, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless you went to that college.

There’s all sorts of people that I work with that went to neither the U of O or OSU, yet come college gameday they’re all GO DUCKS or BEAVERS. It’s odd.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually tend to agree, but it's one of those things that's weird but probably not changing.

I have an emotional attachment to the University of Memphis and I haven’t even been to the city in 15 years or so.

But I think a lot of it has to do with regional pride more than anything. Universities are seen as not only institutions of higher learning but as a symbol of a place or culture; plenty of people that live in Nebraska never went to college, but they feel a sense of ownership in the University because they pay for it, they save money for their kids to go there (even in vain) and people know about Nebraska because of the football team.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 3, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's pretty much it in a nutshell, I suppose.

And to continue with the Nebraska example, because it’s the one I am most familiar with, life there is boring. Just insanely, mind-numbingly, drive-an-urbanite-to-drink-clorox boring. But Goddammit, they’ve got the Huskers to look forward to ever Saturday during the fall. So that’s something.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 3, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That and the fact that the UK/European town v. gown divide is almost unknown here.

Yes, people get annoyed at frat parties in the U district, but relatively few people actively hate the local university and want it to leave town or something.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

My godparents used to live right by Ravenna Park

and they really looked forward to football season because it meant they could call the cops twice a week for several consecutive weeks. They viewed it as a sport all its own.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That neighborhood and immediately south seem to love doing that, it's true

But in the UK, it would be any non-UW student city wide that would loathe anything and everything Husky-related.
There are some zomgpolitics reasons, perhaps, but the sort of rally around the Uni thing that ac’s describing is pretty real. And while we have nothing like the Nebraska phenomenon, it’s still pretty amazing how many non-alumni go nuts for UW/UO/OSU/WSU etc.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Texas.

That’s almost more understandable though, because it is fiercely local. In small towns it is likely you know every kid playing.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 3, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well put.

In my case, I root for WSU because I spent four years of my life in that little town and I couldn’t help but develop a fondness for it. Plus I had friends on the team while I was there, and for a couple of years after I left. Seeing those guys playing on national TV is pretty exciting, and that ends up transforming into a pride in the logo, and the program, and the university as a whole. It’s a weird connection when you think about it, but it exists. Not to mention, when you’re in a town like Pullman, there’s not a whole lot else vying for your attention.

On the other hand, I pull for Boise State because I lived there until I was 8 or 9, and growing up in Boise, the only sports you know are Boise State and the Boise Hawks short-season A-ball team. It’s just a bit of a reminder of my childhood, seeing the blue and orange T-shirts everywhere. And yeah, the “boring town” thing applies again.

by Teej on Sep 3, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

When did you live in Boise?

Having lived there for 18 years (left in ’02 for college), I would say it is much less boring than rural Nebraska or Pullman, WA.

by appleshampoo on Sep 3, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

1982-1990.

I go back a couple times a year, but my parents live out toward Mountain Home, so I don’t spend much time in the heart of the city. I like it, though. It’s a little quiet for my tastes, but there are fun things to be done.

by Teej on Sep 3, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think you're right about geography.

Rural means two very different things in Europe and the US. There are parts of the country that are 12-14 hours away from cities large enough to have pro sports and those places don’t generally have much of a cultural connection with the nearest large city in any case.

by Aaron Campeau on Sep 3, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

*STUDENT athletes

(it’s impossible to convey the irony dripping from that thought via text)

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would pretty much mean no more Sounders games :(

Supporting only the absolute best in a sport seems odd to me for a number of reasons.
Everyone’s mentioned regional pride, which is huge – and college football’s conferences magnify this. But beyond that, college football (or basketball) allows for far more experimentation with strategy, offers a view of future NFL stars, and has the best crowd atmosphere this side of European football matches.

I will never understand someone who hates AAA baseball because it’s not the major leagues.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a friend like that

He’s a pretty big baseball fan, but I can’t even coerce him to an AAA game with free tickets – and we have great seats. I finally asked him the other day if he thought major league ballplayers grew on trees or came from the Baseball Player Fairy, and if not what his objection to minor league ball was. He had no good answer.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it almost seems like some people don't want to know/see MiLB players

either because they’re afraid they’ll get their hopes up only to have the labrum fairy dash them, or perhaps because it would spoil the surprise.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think in my friend's case he's just a snob

and if he likes something he only wants to like it if it’s the best of the best. Which I don’t get.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty much, yeah

it’s somewhat irritating but he’s a nice enough guy otherwise and he always buys beer so I stick around.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would imagine it's really good beer, too.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have nothing against AAA ball

But I can’t bring myself to care because minor league games are often like spring training and less about playing to win

by Poochie on Sep 3, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't go to AAA games to see the Beavers win

at this point I couldn’t tell you anything about the standings in the PCL, or even what part of the PCL the Beavers are in. I go because it’s fun to watch kids that in a couple years could be in MLB – or the Padres, either way.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

But what you get at the minor league level

is the ability to watch players up close. Our seats are five rows back, just on the third base side of home plate, and we pay $14 a game. Can’t do that at Safeco.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

true and I understand your viewpoint

and I think that’s great

But I’d still much rather see a major league game

by Poochie on Sep 3, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

If there were both a major and a minor league team here

I’d definitely go to way more major league games than minor, don’t get me wrong. But every once in a while it’s fun to watch a game from up close and that’s really only possible for those in my economic strata at a AAA game.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the boat that it's fun to watch baseball period.

I go to two different indy league stadiums whenever I have a free 3 hours. It’s fun to just get there and watch a game. Even if none of the players will go anywhere.

That and I get to heckle Carl Everett.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the boat that it's fun to watch baseball period.

I go to two different indy league stadiums whenever I have a free 3 hours. It’s fun to just get there and watch a game. Even if none of the players will go anywhere.

That and I get to heckle Carl Everett.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, now I understand how people doublepost.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's my personal pastime.

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by Faux on Sep 3, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the big things about college football (and hoops for that matter) is how you see a lot of playstyles that you don't see in the NFL/NBA

for example, Mike D’antoni’s run and gun Phoenix offense was revolutionary when it hit the NBA, but it had been in use for ages in the college game. Same with the spread offense in college football/the NFL

by seattlebruin on Sep 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

That and most of the NBA schedule is meaningless

In College Football or basketball nearly every game is a must win

by Poochie on Sep 3, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

Let’s go! Let’s go!
Broncos! Broncos!
Let’s go Broncos!
BRONCOS LET’S GO!

by Teej on Sep 3, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

This is going to be a long season.

by Teej on Sep 3, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

GOD

I was so pissed that day. But riding on a bus to UW full of Orange and Blue was pretty cool.

by appleshampoo on Sep 3, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

GO BRONCOS!!!!!

Also, I just found OBNUG yesterday, seems like a decent blog, not a lot of traffic yet. If you’re a BSU fan, stop by.

by appleshampoo on Sep 3, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anybody else a fan of The Asteroid No. 4?

They’ve grown on me so much over the last six months or so. Great great band.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 3, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions  

What's even better than Music Fest NW?

This. Corporate sponsorship or no, this is one hell of a weekend OH MY GOD THIS IS ONE SINGLE DAY OF ROCK AND ROLL. Who’s in?

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions  

COMPLETELY FREE OF CHARGE

of course, it’s sponsored by Scion and there’ll probably be sponsor messages and shit all over but OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT LINEUP AND IT’S ALL ON THE SAME DAY AND IT’S FREE.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

SONIC CHICKEN 4?

I’d see that band based solely on their name.

Career Safeco Record: 7-2

by .Taylor on Sep 3, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

The big annual concert down here,

Street Scene, was like $120 for a two-day pass or $65 for one day. It dropped to $95 the final week when tickets weren’t selling out.

I wanted to see Blue Scholars, but good god man.

by Teej on Sep 3, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOWZERS. Yeah, I guess I'm in.

Jay Reatard, Davila 666, Strange Boys, Pierce Arrows, Black Lips. For free.
Why yes, yes I am interested in that.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ha, and Thee Vicars....

all the way from Bury St. Edmonds.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, King Khan and BBQ show?

Apparently my mind isn’t allowing me to take in the full awesomeness at once.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

For those that want to go remember

You’re only allowed one ticket per registrar, register NOW. The nice thing is that you can pick up tickets at either Sonic Boom or a few other Seattle locations.

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by pdb on Sep 3, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or even *Tacoma* locations.

I don’t feel as second-class as I normally do….

by marc w on Sep 4, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man I'm out of touch

Black Lips are the only band there I’ve heard of

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Sep 3, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

No one can be up on everything; before your comment above, I had no idea

that there was such a thing as ‘true Scottish pirate metal,’ but there it is.

by marc w on Sep 3, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Y'know, last night's BSU-UO game is precisely why I laugh when people say college football is better.

So many fumbles, missed field goals, penalties, and stupid play calling (seriously, Oregon, a slow developing option play when you’re in your own endzone??! Seriously?!)

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 4, 2009 7:49 AM PDT reply actions  

And people throwing cheap shots after the game.

Not to mention blow coverages. Everyone is always open in the middle of the field.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 4, 2009 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

With respect to the missed field goals

The second one was pretty bad, but that first one probably doesn’t happen in the NFL because of the closer hash marks. I’ll never understand that field difference between NFL/NCAA.

It was definitely a sloppy game, but c’mon, it’s not like there aren’t sloppy games every week in the NFL. Of course the quality of play is not going to be on par with student athletes, but I think a lot of people enjoy it more because of the variety. I love watching a good option offense, you just don’t get that in the NFL.

by appleshampoo on Sep 4, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

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