Lookout Landing: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Around SBN: Interview With UMD Athletic Director, Dr. Debbie Yow

Fun With Numbers

As you should all know by now, Fangraphs presents certain plate discipline statistics such as first strike percentage and swing rate on balls out of the strike zone. I don't know why it never dawned on me before, but just now I decided to convert these numbers into expected strike rate for pitchers and then compare the result to actual strike rate to see who's getting calls, and who's getting it in the shorts.

The calculation is pretty simple:

Pitches * Zone% = total # of pitches in the zone

Pitches - (pitches * Zone%) = total # of pitches out of the zone

Total # of pitches out of the zone * O-Swing% = total # of swings on pitches out of the zone

Total # of O-swings + Total # of pitches in the zone = Expected # of strikes

Strikes - expStrikes = Difference

Difference / Pitches = Difference%

Here are the leaderboards for pitchers with a minimum of 500 pitches thrown:

Top 10
Rank Pitcher Difference
1 J.D. Martin 4.6%
2 Jake Peavy 3.0%
3 J.P. Howell 3.0%
4 Max Scherzer 2.8%
5 Darren O'Day 2.8%
6 Brian Moehler 2.7%
7 Derek Lowe 2.6%
8 Javier Vazquez 2.5%
9 Jamie Moyer 2.4%
10 Darren Oliver 2.3%

In other words, JD Martin's strike rate is 4.6% higher than we'd expect it to be based on the number of pitches he throws in the zone and the number of swings he gets on pitches out of the zone.

Bottom 10
Rank Pitcher Difference
1 Evan Meek -3.6%
2 Carlos Villanueva -3.1%
3 Anibal Sanchez -2.9%
4 Ronald Belisario -2.7%
5 Luke French -2.7%
6 Jason Motte -2.7%
7 Mark DiFelice -2.7%
8 J.J. Putz -2.6%
9 Roman Colon -2.5%
10 Jose Valverde -2.4%

Evan Meek, meanwhile, has a strike rate that's 3.6% below where we'd expect it to be. Luke French makes the list as well, ranking 5th-lowest out of 382 pitchers.

(Note that there's a league-wide error of just under 0.4% - there have been 341,240 strikes against 339,264 expected strikes over 547,023 total pitches. This is corrected for.)

We've complained about Doug Fister getting jobbed on several occasions, and indeed, the numbers bear it out - he's registered 192 strikes and 203 expected strikes over three starts and four appearances, for a difference of -3.9%. That's the worst rate in baseball among guys who've thrown 300 pitches.

Anyway, for the curious, here's a link to the player spreadsheet, and here's a link to the team spreadsheet. By this method, the Braves have gotten the most calls, while the Brewers have gotten the least.

4 recs  |  Comment 42 comments |

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

I knew we were getting screwed!

---
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com
http://www.rightfieldbleachers.com \\ twitter

by Jack Moore on Aug 24, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I took a look at something similar to this a couple days ago

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/blog_article/measuring-the-umpires-affect-on-the-game/

I definitely agree that guys can get unlucky with their strike rates (and subsequently their BB and K rates). I believe that eliminating the umpire affect would take out a lot more variance in even already good stats like tRA.

Thanks

by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome stuff, Jeff.

How much work would be involved in breaking down expected and actual strikes per count and using that against the expected wOBA to get a run value? I’d be curious to see if there was much of a difference, and if a particular pitcher is getting jobbed on strike one or two, as opposed to strike three.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phildopip on Aug 24, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Dan Turkenkopf found that it was about .161 runs per extra strike

http://blog.stealingfirst.com/2008/04/02/switching-a-ball-to-a-strike/

And their have been several articles that look at the affects of umpires:

http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2008/4/5/389840/framing-the-debate
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/a-zone-of-their-own/

And the one that I posted above.

In each case, the affect was found to be very, very high. Dan found that individual catchers can add 25 WINS!!! per season by framing (although a lot of that could be luck). Jon Hale found a similar affect with individual umpires, and I found a similar affect with individual pitchers.

That number is so high, that it is almost certainly wrong; however, their doesn’t appear to be much bias at all or any systematic error (besides maybe accuracy of pitch f/x data, which Mike Fast has found to be somewhat problematic). It appears that umpires just really, really, really suck.

Thanks

by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It checks out

I mean, unless pitch f/x data is really inaccurate, I don’t see where a major source of error is. He normalized for batter height, the umpires strike zone, batter handedness…

Thanks

by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know, I know

First off, I don’t think it is catcher skill. Mainly just umpire inadequacy. I’m sure there is a skill to framing, but I doubt it’s much more than 1 win.

I really do think that umpires can affect the game a lot, but I never thought it would be 25 runs high. I mean, it doesn’t make sense, but I really can’t see a flaw in his, Jon’s or my method.

Using Jeff’s team numbers, we get that the spread is about 6 wins based on umpires. He didn’t use pitch f/x though, he make a model based off of pitch results. His theoretical spread is a lot lower than the observed spread, which leads me to think that their may be a lot of error in the pitch f/x data.

Thanks

by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2009 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So just so I'm clear, you're talking 25 wins as in 250 runs, right?

Because that number is still making my eyes glaze over

by Graham on Aug 24, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's in the article that I linked to above

In 08, the difference in “extra” called strikes between the leader, Greg Zaun, and the trailer, Gerald Laird, was 13.25 per game. Assuming that the catchers player 120 games, that works out to 1590 extra strikes. Multiply that by the value of an extra strike, .161 runs, and you get roughly 255 runs.

For pitchers I found a similar affect, with a SD of about .25 runs per 100 pitches and a spread of 1.5 runs per 100, and Jon Hale found that same affect for umpires.

It really must be an inherent bias using PItch f/x data, but for the life of me, I can’t think of what it is.

Thanks

by vivaelpujols on Aug 24, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

.161 runs per strike?

that seems quite high. Plus, it neglects positional effects (what the count was) as well as combinatorial/multiplicative/additive effects (were there other bad calls against the same batter).

A strike called at 0-0 doesn’t have as much effect as a strike called at 3-2, as the hitter can adjust philosophy to be more optimal given the count. In many situations, a batter has more than 3 strikes to play with anyway – they can foul off balls for a while. What’s the run value of a walk anyway? .250? Less than that? How could the (negative) value of an individual strike (disregarding the count) be any more than 1/3 of the (positive) run value of a walk? Okay, I’ll give you that if a strike is called it means a ball wasn’t called, but still… That’s a profound effect from a single ball or strike.

As to combinatorial effects, I would argue that subsequent bad calls have even less of a run value than the first bad call – the player is already getting shafted and decreasing their run value. What’s a little more shaft?

by PagsBrewCrew on Aug 25, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's where I'd start

The RE swing from a 1-0 count to 0-1 is pretty big, but it’s not close to 0.161. For other counts/situations, my understanding is that it’s much less…. here’s one example.

0.161 seems very high, but I’ll check out the links in this subthread.

by marc w on Aug 25, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, read the article....

The .161 figure is the result of summing the change in weighted RE/run value in every count. I’m not sure about that as a methodology, but I’ll have to think about it more.
Clearly the effect of turning a ball to a strike (or vice versa) in SOME counts is at least .161, but not most cases.

by marc w on Aug 25, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Even if it's half of that

The umpire effect is still ridiculously high.

Smoltz.

by vivaelpujols on Aug 25, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is super useful stuff!

How come no one has thought of this before?

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Aug 24, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This should be a semi-mainstream stat

just like the ‘batters luck’ stat (I forget what it’s called)

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Aug 24, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No,

I agree with YOU!

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Aug 26, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

cool.

Glad you did this. During a series a little while back, it seemed like the Yankees were getting a much larger strike zone while the M’s were getting screwed. I wondered at the time if there was a correlation showing umpires favoring big market teams, but figured it’d take way too much work to parse the data.

Interesting that my hypothesis was totally wrong. NYY and BOS (the two AL teams I thought would get the most benefit of the doubt) are middle of the pack.

by Dave Clapper on Aug 24, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Does this all fall along a normal distribution?

Or are there are things pitchers are doing that either help or hurt them in this regard? Or both?

by greymstreet on Aug 24, 2009 5:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Great stuff

I think it would be interesting to watch rookies vs. crafty veterans and see if there is a big gap in the calls they get. My dad always claimed Greg Maddux never even needed to be close to the plate to get a strike, now we can tell.

by bhsmarine on Aug 24, 2009 5:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

My dad hates Greg Maddux

He came in exactly average over the years 02-08 at -0.005. Oh well…

by bhsmarine on Aug 24, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love this.

Awesome thinking, Jeff.

by katal on Aug 24, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome connect, Jeff.

Next step: look for patterns of who’s getting jobbed and who’s getting extra calls. Maybe breaking balls get missed more often? Maybe older pitchers actually do get more calls? Maybe better pitchers get more calls? Maybe certain stadiums are tougher to call?

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 24, 2009 7:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

By reading a game thread of your own volition you agree to accept all liability for any and all damage done to your delicate sensibilities.
Start posting about the Mariners »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Small
The filthiest pitch in baseball.
Sth70021_small
The Luckiest Pitchers of 2009
Small
A different way of looking at the offseason - Impact on Playoff Hopes
Small
My Favorite Player: Rob Johnson
Clement_small
The Effect of Chemistry in MLB and the Yuniesky Betancourt Exception

Recent FanPosts

130-gutierrez_small
The Ricky Nolasco Case: What Went Wrong?
Small
Blasphemy?
Small
Cliff Lee had surgery on left foot
Clemente_small
OT cooking thoughts, and oh yeah, there's that football game, Feb 7
39135485-59af19dbb26654095f910f34176af094_4ae8a81e-scaled_small
Predictions Group
Small
A Case For Felipe Lopez

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Sexy People

Hms_surprise_small Graham

Small Matthew

Wbc_029_small Jeff Sullivan