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Nick Collison v. Jim Traber

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Per Seattle Sportsnet:

Apparently, you can’t speak ill of the worst city in America without incurring the wrath of pseudo-journalists who call themselves radio hosts in Oklahoma.

And if you’re Nick Collison, and you have anything positive to say about Seattle, you better cover your balls because you’re in for a savage attack on your manhood.

Here's the podcast.  And let me just say, listening to it makes me miss the Sonics/want to punch Jim Traber in the face more than anything else that has ever made me miss anyone/want to punch anyone in the face.

Of course, the comments that had offended Traber were made on Twitter (the incriminating, weather-related "tweets" can be found here and here).

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But Traber isn't like other shock jocks....

because he was a professional athlete for 3 years. What a moron. With all the potential candidates to rag on right now, you go after Nick Collison? Brilliant!

by Geeves72 on Aug 21, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions  

At least

he didn’t make a tornado/meth dealer/Tim McVeigh reference…like everyone I know does.

They got off easy considering OKC is a dirty cesspool.

by Karma Police on Aug 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Gee, I wonder why no one went to the games?

Maybe it was because the team was going to move and they didn’t want to support Bennet.

by Mariner John on Aug 21, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions  

It wasn't the fans

The lack of support after the sale to Bennet was entirely engineered BY BENNET. He traded their best players for (promising) young players in order to make it appear the team had no support. It would be like the M’s traded Ichiro, Felix and Aardsma for prospects, fired everyone in the FO / coaching staff who had a Seattle connection then proceeded to lose 100 games.

The problem the Sonics had was competing for corporate money with the Mariners and Seahawks. Even during mediocre years, plenty of fans attended games.

by short on Aug 22, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with Oklahoma City?

Apart from the bomb, and Jim Ross, and that they stole your basketball team, I know nothing about the place.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Aug 22, 2009 4:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Flat.

In “tornado alley”. Hot, muggy, etc.

I’ve been there a few times, used to have relatives there (they moved). Last time I was there was maybe 2003 or 2004. All I can remember is how hot and dull it was.

So I’ve never been a fan of the city, and the whole Sonics thing was the final straw. It’s gone from “ugh no thanks” to “fuck that miserable shithole”

by Karma Police on Aug 22, 2009 4:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Aug 22, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey now

at least we win, unlike any of Washington’s finest*

*this statement does not apply to our basketball team

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 23, 2009 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

enjoy another 0-12 season

well, you do play Idaho, so maybe 1-11.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 23, 2009 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

The rational/non belligerent side of me agrees

Just having Locker healthy is worth a couple of wins. If you put a gun to my head, I’d say 4 wins for UW this year, though give or take one would not shock me. But they are headed back to respectability soon. If they can get the facilities taken care of, they’ll be back up with USC, Oregon, Cal, and OSU fighting for the top spots in the conference within five years.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 23, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sarkisian helps.

Although I don’t care so much about them anymore since I go to a different school. I agree with the 4-8 prediction.

by Mariner John on Aug 23, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.

by qrsouther on Aug 25, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not ask that question?

I don’t mean to incite argument with you, friend. Why should the Ducks be fucked?

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.

by qrsouther on Aug 25, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. There's that.

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by qrsouther on Aug 25, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Things Portland has produced that your parents have not

Voodoo Doughnut
Lompoc beer
Hair Of The Dog beer
Rogue beer
Amnesia beer

I think it’s clear that your hatred should shift away from Portland.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fine

I mildly dislike the city of Portland from the time that I have spent and hate all of the sports teams with a burning passion.

by Robert on Aug 25, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Minus points for letting Rogue make a pretty crappy whiskey. City council should have stepped in

by woomikee on Aug 26, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rogue isn't from Portland, but yeah, good call.

I was in Newport recently to pick up that whiskey (and the barrel-aged gin). Liked the gin as a change of pace, but that whiskey does not stand up well to scotch. Or bourbon.
Huh.

by marc w on Aug 26, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The whiskey is apparently only aged 30 days. I furrowed my brow at said fact.

by woomikee on Aug 26, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I love the fact that it’s made from Dead Guy, but the 30 day aging thing seems perfunctory. Like they really wanted to say they’d barrel-aged it, but couldn’t really spare any barrels or something.
As you’d expect, the initial flavor isn’t bad at all, but the finish is just in another category entirely from real whiskey. I tried it side by side with Glenlivet last night, which wasn’t really fair, but it made the Rogue look amateurish.

by marc w on Aug 26, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's terrible.

Also, welcome to LL and please make use of the subject line.

by Matthew on Aug 26, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

My B

long time trawler, first time poster

by woomikee on Aug 27, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

consider the source

ROBERT: I DO NOT HATE YOU THAT WAS IN JEST.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

As a Blazer fan

living in Oregon, screw that shit hole OKC.

by santeesioux1 on Aug 22, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions  

agreed

that was a ton of people not doing their jobs—Schultz, Stern, Nickels, and the Wash. legislature all completely shit the brick on that one. Even Ackerley for screwing up the Key remodel in the first place. Complete incompetence by all. Bennett proved competent—too bad it was at being a total dick.

That was the most botched move in the history of sports, and it never should have happened. Schultz would have gotten his remodel if he had any tact in his negotiations. If Stern thinks OKC over Seattle is better in the long run, he’s nuts, and Nickel’s chickens just came home to roost.

That said, the Griz, Bobcats, Kings, and Hornets are all in dire situations, and Seattle would be very attractive for all of them. Keep pressure on those in power to get an arena in place, and the Supes will be flying in Seattle again very soon.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 23, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH KEY ARENA THAT'S THE WHOLE PROBLEM HERE

Honestly, if Seattle or the Seattle area builds a whole new arena, there should be riots in the streets and burning down of buildings, because Key Arena is a perfectly acceptable facility for modern needs – since it was renovated in the mid-90’s, it oughta be. I believe that remodel’s still being paid for.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 23, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

but its not a shopping mall, haven't you heard

its a fantastic basketball arena, the problem is NBA economics are so out of whack that the owners need more revenue streams than the Key has to offer. This actually falls on Ackerley.

The Key in Seattle and the Rose Garden in Portland got done right around the same time. Portland Memorial Coliseum and the old Seattle Center Coliseum were very similar buildings. Paul Allen knew that the structure was obsolete in terms of a money making standpoint (basically, square footage for restaruants, bars, and shops), and built a whole new building. Ackerley got it backward, because he could have had a new, bigger building, but didn’t want the potential competition from an NHL team. Ackerley didn’t know what he was doing and made a huge mistake.

Like I said, this whole thing was a lot of people not doing their jobs. Unfortunately, as usually happens in pro sports, the fans get screwed.

--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 23, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ackerley knew EXACTLY what he was doing, don't kid yourself

You said it yourself:

he could have had a new, bigger building, but didn’t want the potential competition from an NHL team.

He was happy with his basketball team being the only pro-sports tenant in the new Key; it’s only when he sold the team to Schultz that the arena became “deficient”.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 24, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

re: "and the Wash. legislature"

I agree with most of that comment, but can’t pass this one up.
The legislature was handed the single most egregiously awful public financing bill ever, for any sport. Turning that ‘deal’ down doesn’t mean they weren’t doing their job. Perhaps they messed up other alternatives, I don’t know, but the idea that the Legislature screwed this one up was KJR’s line… right at the time they were busy carrying water for Clay Bennett. I wonder how some of those shock jocks still have jobs after they basically repeated Bennett’s drivel about wanting to keep the team in Seattle if only the stingy old legislature would let them.
In retrospect, Bennett played the region masterfully. He knew he had to take something to Olympia, but couldn’t take a chance on it actually passing, so he sends them a trainwreck of a bill. The league had his back, meaning the only slightly tricky part of the whole process was negotiations with a distracted, leverage-less Seattle. This is now a template for moving a franchise. I want them to fold so bad, and the NBA’s finances make that moderately likely.

by marc w on Aug 24, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Traber's name sounded familiar

from his wikipedia:

His time in Japan is perhaps most memorable for an incident in which Traber rushed the mound subsequent to being hit by a pitch, chasing the retreating pitcher into the outfield. After charging the pitcher a second time, he tripped while running and was kicked in the face on the way down. Grainy footage of this incident is still widely distributed on the Internet.

Video here

Real winner, this guy.

oh, and:

Traber was named as one of the all time worst players in Orioles history, in an article titled, “The Zeros of Birdland” (also from his wiki)

by Karma Police on Aug 22, 2009 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

As an A's fan in Oklahoma City

I came across this and had a few things to say.

Fuck Jim Traber. He’s an ultra idiot.

For ol’ acblue up there who made light of the OKC bombings. How about you go fuck yourself?

by Emmett89 on Aug 24, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I will. I don't ever really have much interest in any team besides the A's

I read the A’s game previews on the site because I like the main writer on here. He’s funny.

I could care less about saying Oklahoma City’s a shitty town, whatever. It is. I can understand 100% being mad about losing the Sonics. I imagine that’s pretty shitty.

But to trivialize 100+ people’s life’s, including a fucking relative, and something that was a huge disaster is pretty damn bullshit.

So my suggestion stands.

by Emmett89 on Aug 24, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look, I agree with you.

Though reel in the whole “go fuck yourself” to fellow commentors. That is impolite as well.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.

by qrsouther on Aug 25, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, we are originally all from Seattle

so there was a healthy level of passive-aggressiveness mixed with the considerate when the ambulance showed up. “No, we’re fine, don’t worry about us, it’ll be OK”, that sort of thing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I saw a bumpersticker on a Prius the other day that said, in big, bold letters

“In an effort to reduce carbon emissions, this vehicle travels at posted speed limits AT ALL TIMES.” I came very close to keying the shit out of that car.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 25, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know how you held back, to be honest.

I’m all for people doing their part to keep the planet functioning a long time. Just keep it to your damn self because NOBODY CARES ABOUT SELF RIGHTEOUS IDIOTS.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

So don't read them.

It’s just a bumper sticker. It’s not like he’s standing in front of you shouting at you or in some way making you pay attention.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 25, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

A combination of what Graham and AC said below.

I can’t not read a bumper sticker, especially if traffic is stopped. And I hate the attitude that says “look how righteous I’m being” and when it’s manifested in bumpersticker form it’s even more irritating.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

How does driving 25 reduce carbon emissions anyways?

It’s not like speed limits were designed with that in mind.

by Matthew on Aug 25, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

...but no?

You would want to drive at whatever speed maximized fuel efficiency, right?

by Matthew on Aug 25, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well in the case of a Prius the CVT will adjust itself to maximize fuel efficiency at any speed.

So it really would be a case of slower=less fuel burned. Especially at a speed like 25 or 30, since the car would be running on battery at that point.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 25, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh right, hybrid.

Things Montana has right: speed limits and how to deal with other drivers

by Matthew on Aug 25, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

75 and enforced in "urban" areas.

I think most of the state highways are still speed limit free, although the ones in Western Montana have a de-facto speed limit by being rutted, crumbling, generally hung on the side of mountains and shoulder free.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 25, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

They definately have a speed limit.

I went thru recently and it was 80. I was doing 100+ and tried the “I thought there weren’t speed limits here” plea.. didn’t work.

But it was a $40 ticket, paid in cash while pulled over. So there’s that.

by d0nkey on Aug 26, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I AM SORRY I MISSED THIS THREAD

I hate the stickers that say something like POWERED BY BIODIESEL or BIODIESEL: NO WAR REQUIRED. I’ve seen people actually print out a little sign and put it in their rear window.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Aug 25, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m all for people doing their part to keep the planet functioning a long time. Just keep it to your damn self because NOBODY CARES ABOUT SELF RIGHTEOUS IDIOTS.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Aug 25, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was really hoping this subthread was going to go in a direction of trying to one-up each other with the most PNW thing you could say.

“Does this ambulance run on recycled fuel? I don’t ride in vehicles that burn fossil fuels”

“You probably would have been here faster if it weren’t for all these damn environment-hating commuters”

“Can we stop at a Caribou on the way? I don’t want to miss my afternoon soy latte”

by Matthew on Aug 25, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I notice that the lights under which you are performing my surgery appear to be incandescent.

Might I suggest LED lightbulbs? I apologize if cost might be an issue, I mean no offense. My father worked blue collar jobs, so I understand! In that case, compact fluorescent bulbs would do in a pinch!"

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 25, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"I also notice that the cotton gauze you're attempting to stanch the bleeding with is not organic.

There are many sources for organic, shade-grown cotton products, if you want I could suggest a few once the anesthesia wears off. But if not, no big deal."

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Were these medications tested on animals?

You know, I’m fine, just don’t worry about it. Yeah, more of a personal preference thing. Not telling YOU what to do with YOUR body, but I don’t want anything that came about through cruelty touching mine.

by marc w on Aug 25, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

This subthread has gone wonderful places.

Having trouble thinking at present, but I like the idea how a polite Seattelite might react to driving around in Chicago or New York.

by Decatur on Aug 25, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what? If it's THAT important to you to be in this lane all of the sudden

then go for it. I really hope it brings you the joy you seem to be missing.
Don’t blame me when it doesn’t and you… yes, look at that, back to the other lane now. You see? Trying to get ahead at all costs gets you nothing but aggravation! Seek peace in your life and you’ll find you drive MUCH friendlier. It even saves gas! Don’t attempt to WIN the rat race – you’re still a rat (so to speak, it’s a figure of speech and I wasn’t insinuating anything, and I don’t know if your culture thinks of the rat in such negative ways, you may even find them noble, though you are an individual and not the sum total of your culture’s mores and beliefs, so never mind it’s really just a metaphor)!

by marc w on Aug 25, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

Somebody honked at me! That means they're angry with me!

I’d better try to make eye contact with them and wave at them so we can still be friends!

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why are these people crossing the street

when the crosswalk light clearly says not to cross? I just better wait until everyone crosses and reaches the curb before trying to turn. And why did everyone flip me off when I slowed down when the light turned yellow?

by Jed MC on Aug 25, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't understand why the guy behind me is honking

I mean, the light just turned green like two seconds ago. Why the rush?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a rotary, not a speedway!

I’m trying to figure out where I’m going, so I HAVE to drive this slowly! You’d think people would understand that!

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

This leads to:

Won’t somebody please let me out of the rotary?

by Jed MC on Aug 25, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm likely to face hostility for this,

But I do not like OKC Bombing jokes either. It really was a tragedy and I do not agree with or condone Aaron’s (acblue’s) statement above. Sorry Aaron.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.

by qrsouther on Aug 25, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a tip in the future for everyone that doesn't like a particular joke or style of joke

Take it up individually via email with either the joker or the mod. It will cut down a lot on the inevitable (and, to my twisted soul, much more entertaining) backlash. I don’t offend easily, so none of this really bothered me, but if it did bother someone they should address it privately and we’ll all be better off.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah sorry about that

If you have concerns about any of the content about LL, I should have suggested that you email the in no way nonexistent email address ihaveareallyimportantconcern@lookoutlanding.com and your concern will be addressed as soon as humanly possible. Thank you.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dammit.

That e-mail bounced!

I was going to go tell the mods to ban people who use the term “DIAF!”

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Aug 25, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay here is a big, giant news flash:

I do not actually wish that the Oklahoma City bombings had been more widely dispersed. In fact, I think it would have been fine and dandy if they had not occurred at all. I was over-exaggerating in an effort to point out how much I dislike Oklahoma City; it is a little thing called hyperbole and it is actually fairly common.

If you have ever laughed at a joke that makes light of unfortunate circumstance, you do not get to be offended. If you have not, well I guess you are a much better person than me. Congratulations. Might I suggest that you never read LL (or 95% of the rest of the internet,) watch television or movies, read books or magazines or pretty, much never, ever leave your house again? That way you can be assured to never have your delicate sensibilities violated again!

Also, the Oklahoma City bombings were not a tragedy; Romeo and Juliet was a tragedy. The works of Sophocles were tragedy. A tragedy is a dramatic production which uses human suffering for its entertainment value. What happened in Oklahoma City is unfortunate, sad, etc. It is not tragic. Unless you find it funny or otherwise entertaining.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 25, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

It started out hi-larious and then got sad there near the end what with all the dying and whatnot

THIS WAS A JOKE FOR COMEDIC EFFECT. PUT YOUR INDIGNANCE AWAY.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 25, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aaron, I am honestly not offended personally.

I’m not a fan of OKC jokes, but I have no reason necessarily to take umbrage. I’m not from Oklahoma. But I can identify with the original visiting poster in that it still is a sore spot. What I feel was impolite of all present was the backlash at the person who obviously had a very sore spot about it. I don’t think it was the time and place for more schadenfreude.

All I’m saying is that it may have gone too far when some of us shot back at the visiting poster with crybaby images and such. I love LL and I’m next-to-never offended by the offensive rhetoric, but I think the visiting poster has a right to be offended himself and that I think it was unnecessary to continue, you know? That’s all.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Six-hundred and ninety-four yards of total offense.

by qrsouther on Aug 25, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The poster had posted once at LL before reading this thread.

LL is off-color. That’s not for everyone, but I’m not going to apologize either. People have made morbid jokes at LL and other places that I don’t find amusing for various reasons, including the fact that they are making light of things that have affected me personally, but unless I fell as though they are being serious I am capable of ignoring them because I know that jokes are jokes.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 25, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we should just leave it at this:

LL commenters make offensive jokes. If you’re offended, too bad. That’s basically what it says on the sidebar…..

Career Safeco Record: 7-2

by .Taylor on Aug 26, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

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