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54-51, A Few Game Notes

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  • The outcomes don't really matter much to me anymore. The Mariners are out of it - pretty much 100% out of it - and if anything I'm rooting for the Rangers to pass the Angels in the division. And so with that in mind I don't think it should come off like sour grapes when I say that Texas got a big break there in that final at bat with Jack Wilson. Not only did home plate umpire DJ Reyburn call a strike on a 1-1 fastball six inches inside, but then on 1-2, he ruled that Wilson didn't make contact with a slider in the dirt. Wilson was adamant that he caught the top of the ball and replays showed that the ball changed direction, but Reyburn would have nothing of it, and he called it a game.

    On the one hand, yeah, it's only two pitches. There's no guarantee that Wilson gets a hit or reaches base if he gets ahead 2-1 or if that alleged foul is called a foul. But on the other, those were two significant pitches. 2-1 is a hitter's count, while 1-2 is not. And then one pitch later, 1-2 looks a lot better than 0-0 when 0-0 means the game is over and you lose. Wilson's a .280 career hitter against lefties, and all he needed was a single to tie it up. And he didn't get a proper chance, because Reyburn sucked. Cheers to CJ Wilson for throwing a 1-2 slider that apparently fooled everyone, but jeers to DJ Reyburn for being a pile of crap with bad timing.

  • Jack Hannahan vs. LHP, career: .245/.313/.343
    Franklin Gutierrez vs. LHP, career: .295/.350/.492

    So why did Hannahan hit against CJ Wilson with Gutierrez available on the bench? Because

    "The biggest reason was that Hannahan's hit about .330 over the last seven games and I felt that he'd been having some good at-bats,'' Wakamatsu said. "It gave me the luxury of maybe having (the other bats) for somebody else. But I felt good with Hannahan right there.''
    Having the other bats available for somebody else doesn't matter if you can't get to them, and in that situation, with the tying run on second, one out, and a lefty on the mound, you have to go to your bench. To hell with the pinch-hitting penalty. Gutierrez would have a long, long way to fall before he ever looked like as bad a bet there as Jack Hannahan. I don't criticize Don Wakamatsu very often, but that was a bad move. Or non-move, as it were. 

  • In the top of the fourth, Jose Lopez came up with one down and Ichiro on first. He hit a high pop-up behind second, but as the ball was coming down, Omar Vizquel pulled his hands back, let the ball drop, and threw to second to erase Ichiro by a mile. Who even thinks of these things? If Vizquel were some teenager in A-ball that split-second decision would've gotten him promoted. What a heads-up play, the likes of which you wouldn't see from many other infielders in the league.

    Betancourt: Why would he do that?
    Coach: To get Ichiro off the bases.
    Betancourt: But that would've been easy to catch.
    Coach: Yes, but because it was so easy to catch, Ichiro had to stay near first, making him an easy target at second.
    Betancourt: But he just had to put his glove out there and the ball would've fallen into it for an out.
    Coach: But then you have two out and Ichiro on instead of two out and Lopez on.
    Betancourt: But why would you ever let a ball like that fall? It was a routine pop.
    Coach: Ichiro is a great deal faster than Lopez.
    Betancourt: But don't you want there to be two outs?
    Coach: By dropping the ball and then throwing to second, you get the second out anyway, with the added bonus of having less speed on the bases.
    Betancourt: So you're saying he let it drop on purpose...
    Coach: Yes.
    Betancourt: ...because he could get an out at second?
    Coach: Correct.
    Betancourt: Okay.
    Coach: Got it?
    Betancourt: I think.
    Betancourt: But then why wouldn't he just catch the ball?

  • A mixed bag for Ian Snell, who came out after six innings and 84 pitches having struck out four, walked three, and allowed two solo homers. He topped out at 95 on the night, and the homer by Michael Young was on a high-inside slider off the plate that Young just turned on like a crazy person, but the homer by David Murphy was on a bad pitch, and altogether both Snell's strengths and weaknesses were readily evident.

    By my count, he threw 39 fastballs, 21 sliders, and 24 changeups (Update: upon further review, Snell's velocity dropped in the second half of his game, so he threw more fastballs and fewer changes than I noted here). What's interesting is that, while only one of his first 46 pitches was a change, he went to that pitch 23 times over his final 38. Rob Johnson certainly had a plan to show the Rangers something different the second and third times through the order. My reviews of his pitches:

    Fastball: Pretty good velocity, can throw it for strikes, but not a real hard pitch to hit
    Slider: Good, sharp break with a broad range of velocity. Struggled to throw it for strikes today, but a few of those misses were deliberate. Strikeout pitch
    Changeup: Movement's fine but the consistency's not. Wasn't being located. Work in progress

    Nothing in there we shouldn't have expected. Snell's change has never been a plus pitch and he's always struggled with lefties, even when he was really good. So the key for him will be limiting the damage done to him by righties, and upon first viewing his slider appears more than capable. He's going to be an interesting one to follow, and with a little better command than he had tonight, he has it in him to be a big value.

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Baker
Snell was pulled after only six innings because his forearm began tightening up. He’d been drilled on it by a line drive his final Class AAA start and began feeling it on the mound. The team checked it out and he’s fine. Wakamatsu felt he was tiring a bit, which is why he pulled him.

by Jeff on Aug 2, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it just me...

…or does everyone else expect us to score zero runs when we have the bases loaded and nobody out?

by playerkyle14 on Aug 2, 2009 9:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I actually expect this.

Anything more than a GIDP is a pleasant surprise.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Aug 2, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What makes this even worse?

I just went through that game log, and we had bases loaded in the first with nobody out and proceeded to watch Sexson, Everett, and Beltre all strike out swinging.

by naviomelo on Aug 2, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

About the picture

for some reason in these pictures, the camera is always focused on the guy running the bases, not the facepalm on the mound. I’m assuming this is an autofocus issue, because I’m pretty sure everyone is more interested in human misery than a guy in high socks jogging.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Aug 2, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Great recap Jeff

I didn’t see the Visquel play, that sounds awesome.

F*** Billy Beane... actually, I kinda like Holliday

by vivaelpujols on Aug 2, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't Ichiro the only runner?

I’m pretty sure you have to at least have guys on first and second for the infield fly rule to take effect.

me so cool

by Humongo on Aug 2, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

1st and 2nd

Has to be less than 2 outs and runners at first and second

Blow it up! BLOW IT SKY HIGH!

by tkballer22 on Aug 2, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

6.05(1)

This is the rule that I thought should have been enforced…

“A batter is out when a fielder intentionally drops a fair fly ball or line drive, with first, first and second, first and third, or first, second and third base occupied before two are out. The ball is dead and runner or runners shall return to their original base or bases.”

In this situation, the batter is not out if the fielder permits the ball to drop untouched to the ground, except when the Infield Fly rule applies. The key word here is untouched.

The umpires make the determination as to whether or not a fielder intentionally drops a fly ball. In relation to 6.05(1), the umps could kill a play by calling “time” immediately if they think a fielder has intentionally dropped the ball.

If Vizquel, dropped the ball intentionally, the umps could have protected Ichiro at first by calling Lopez out and stopping the action. But since Omar wisely allowed the ball to fall to the ground untouched, the ball remained alive and in play.

Blow it up! BLOW IT SKY HIGH!

by tkballer22 on Aug 2, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Atleast the rotation has somewhat stabilized now

with Ian Snell and the re-emergence of Ryan Rowland-Smith. Both won’t be superstars, but atleast they will be solid starters behind Felix. Also hopefully Luke French can do a good Washburn impression with the Mariners defense.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Aug 2, 2009 9:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2009 Washburn impression*

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Aug 2, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of which.

Do you think the Mariners will keep Bedard for 2010, since they can probably low ball him in the arbitration hearings?

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Aug 2, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's worth the risk.

You got slurved!

The M's are why the suicide rates are so high in the PNW and Japan.

by Slurvey on Aug 2, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No control

he’s a FA after this year. Can be offered arb, but he doesn’t have to accept.

by seattlebruin on Aug 2, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably better to not offer arb but try to resign

2 years, innings based pay. The thing with Bedard is I hate the uncertainty.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Aug 3, 2009 1:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Olsen(god no)/Vargas/Jakabauskas.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Aug 2, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He can be a decent lefty in the bullpen.

He’ll definitely get the chance to prove if he can stick there before Bedard comes back.

by yuniform on Aug 3, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just not too high on all of his home runs.

He’s really a boring and sometimes painful pitcher to watch. At least as a starter that is. Maybe I’d like to see Jak go down though becuase he really has been shittastic lately.

by Kirkharbaugh on Aug 3, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish I were as cool as Omar Vizquel.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 2, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

2009

The team seems to have more potential to win now than we did before all of the recent trades. Too bad we’ve had some losing streaks and all the other playoff teams have had winning streaks.

But I wouldn’t call it 100% out of it, some players need to pick it up again like they did in parts of the first half.

by fortyniners on Aug 2, 2009 10:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

10 games out

with 57 to play? That’s about as close to 100% as you’re going to find!

by naviomelo on Aug 2, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They will probably be a better team with a better chance next year.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Aug 2, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To go from what, 61-101 to being over .500 now

Is hellaciously good. I know, not good enough when a division looks winnable, but one has to be impressed with the volume of the turnaround.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Aug 2, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rednecks love Michael Young

I was at the game tonight and I was explaining to my girlfriend why Michael Young is one of the more overrated players in baseball… the redneck in front of me turned around and looked like he was going to kill me and then Young hit a homer on the next pitch. Double ouch.

by Yoyogi on Aug 2, 2009 11:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hate it when things like this happen.

Kind of like when you explain to someone why losing Ibanez wasn’t a big deal, and then he hits more home runs than anyone else in baseball at one point in the season and nobody believes you.

by naviomelo on Aug 2, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And another...

In the Young homer AB, Snell came up and in with a botched 78 mph change/slider that brushed Young off the plate. Instantaneously, a 350 lb fatty redneck male three rows in front of me jumped out of his seat and went ballistic. “EJECT HIM UP! EJEEEEEECT HIM!!! HE IS THROWING AT OUR GUY! HE IS GOING TO HURT HIM!!!” Every time I go to Ameriquest I find new reasons to wish they built is as far away from Ft. Worth as possible…

by Yoyogi on Aug 2, 2009 11:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice to see other Metroplex LLers around.

Last time I went, I found the fans were pretty nice. I was even wearing all my M’s stuff. This was the game that we lost in extras in May. Worst I heard was, “Oh well. Try again tomorrow!” with a few pats on the back.

Young is having an unbelievable year with the stick this year, though. He might even earn his contract this year.

by naviomelo on Aug 3, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Texas is a shitty place.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Aug 3, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Word.

Except for Austin. But I think this has been discussed plenty of times here already.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Aug 3, 2009 12:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"throwing at our guy"

Chances are he’s doesn’t even know who Young is.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Aug 3, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno...

…I know that Young won’t come close to living up to the contract he signed and that his Gold Glove was a complete mockery, but I’m beginning to think the blogsphere is a little too hard on the guy. For instance, this year he’s having a good year (especially with his recent hitting streak) and his defense has been improving as he learns a new position. He’s still a bad defender there (-10 runs, 2nd worst in the Majors), but that’s better than he was in April and May. And he’s been one of the best 3B at the plate this year with a .394 wOBA, 3rd behind Youkilis’ .427 and Mark Reynold’s .402.

So far he’s been a 2.8 WAR player this year, worth $12.2 million, and giving him a chance to be worth his $16 million this year. I’m sure the contract will look awful for the last 2-3 years, but I’m hoping he plays close enough to it over the next couple years.

by GhettoBear04 on Aug 3, 2009 7:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Arlington

it’s all about Arlington for Young. I know FG adjusts for that a little, but I’ve heard their factors leave a little to be desired. Young’s OBP away is .333 – 80 points below his home OBP. Also, he’s got a .400 BABIP at home, which is kinda crazy.
He’s having a good year and he’s not the most overrated player in baseball, but I doubt that contract is going to work out as well as the Beltre deal, for example.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Aug 3, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just cruel.

They should at least bring in someone to translate.

by I Lick Squirrels on Aug 3, 2009 2:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to see the end of that joke of a Ballpark in Arlington.

They should put asterics next to all the Rangers’ batting stats.

Also those farking Yankees and Red Sox.

by Sam Regens on Aug 3, 2009 3:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Vizquel has done that before

Came here to see how Snell did, saw the Vizquel story. He and Robbie Alomar both did that at least once as an Indian.

Steel Nick

by nickjs21 on Aug 3, 2009 7:44 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So base on what you guys saw will Snell be a legit number 3-4 guy?

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

p.p.s. why does geoff baker hate felix

by InSpokane on Aug 3, 2009 7:57 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

*Will* he?

I don’t know. But he could. I’d say very very good odds he’s a #4, and pretty good odds he’s a #3. But he’ll always be inconsistent and vulnerable to lefty-heavy lineups.

by Jeff on Aug 3, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding Visquel's Intentional Drop

Ok, this isn’t as thoroughly researched as I’d like, but your description of Vizquel’s play rang a bell for me. Back in the 90’s I was at a game at the Kingdome. I remember leaving early, and that while in the parking lot on the way to my car hearing that a triple play had been turned. I vaguely remembered that Jeff Nelson had been involved.

Some googling turned up this game:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SEA/SEA199507130.shtml

Now, what struck my memory about the game was that I seem to remember the fielder intentionally dropping a fly ball in order to turn it. According to the play-by-play, here’s what happened:

Triple Play: Bunt Groundout: P-SS-2B

Jeff Nelson came in, threw one pitch, and got three outs. Now, I don’t know how that play works if he intentionally dropped a fly ball, so I’m probably remembering another play from another game and getting it confused with this one.

by BrianV on Aug 3, 2009 9:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

With that many on base, you can't just intentionally let it drop.

Unless the umps decided against calling the infield fly for some reason.

by marc w on Aug 3, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If the ball does not go above the fielders head you do not call the infield fly.

I think this was hit right at Nelson but very softly. The runners held giving him the opportunity to knock it down and go to 2nd base.

by Sec 108 on Aug 3, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it wouldn't really matter; it wouldn't have to be an 'intentional' drop...

a bunt in the air will make the runners hold, even if it’d be a tough catch, right?

(I’d think a bunt pop-up would go above fielders’ heads, but I guess Nellie was pretty damn tall…)

by marc w on Aug 3, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vizquel

This seems like one of those cases where people don’t do it solely because they’d get crucified if they screw it up somehow. You forfeit a guaranteed (not really, but whatever) out in exchange for a high probability chance that you’ll have a slower runner on 1st with 1 out. The risk is really tough to quantify (what if it hits a rock, or has more spin than the fielder expected, etc.), and it actually may NOT be the smart play. I mean, what really IS the difference in run expectancy with Ichiro on 1st, one out versus Loafie on 1st, one out?

Still, it seems to me that on a major league field, the risk is acceptably low and the reward is, while small, real. But every SS knows that if it does kick away and they get runners on 1st and 2nd, he’ll be lambasted as a lazy player (he had a sure out and he didn’t take it!), a show-off and a guy who hurts his team by overthinking routine plays. Vizquel (like Alomar before) has reached a point where nobody could possibly say anything bad about him as a fielder, so he’s free to do whatever he wants.

What I want to see is a situation with runners on 1st/2nd (or bases loaded) and the batter hits a line drive right at a fielder. The fielder drops it and then turns two. Yes, technically, the ump may call the play dead or retroactively call infield fly (though I don’t know that this would actually happen). In that case, you’re not harmed. If the ump isn’t paying attention or believes that he CAN’T call IFF in that situation, you’ve got two easy outs.

by marc w on Aug 3, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

They've done that before.

I remember Mike Lowell tried doing that on a liner hit right at him with first and second and they called him out on it. I think that was 2 years ago? Something like that.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 3, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its kind of weird how Omar did that because

My friend and I were discussing what would happen, or could possibly happen, with bases loaded on an infield fly and such.

by Pessimistic Optimist on Aug 3, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Upon further review

I’m no longer so certain about those fastball and changeup counts, because something happened to Snell’s velocity after the third inning. But the overall message remains the same.

by Jeff on Aug 3, 2009 12:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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