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OTFPOTW 8/10/09

I imagine a great deal of the posts today will be discussing aches and injuries from the softball game yesterday. Great to see so many people come out. It was really fun to be able to play with full teams and still be able to sit for an inning now and then. Post links to pictures, or tell your war stories.

In other news, Russell Branyan and Franklin Gutierrez are pretty awesome. Their homeruns from yesterday here and here, respectively.

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I was at short, Robert at "2B", and Red running

I had the ball and decided to run for the base since no one was covering, at the same time both Robert and Red were running.
Explosion.
Boom.
Dust flies.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Aug 10, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   6 recs

He was playing 3B I think.

And when our middle infield went down, he went and picked up the ball.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok now I remember

Because the runner rounded first, even though the runner was down in the pile, so he got to the ball and tried to pick the runner off first.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was even better in motion

Though it doesn’t quite stack up to Robert’s attempted run to first after a foul ball, in which he ended up on his head

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, for those wondering about Carlos Silva,

I think we can expect to see him activated when rosters expand next month. Story here.

by Sec 108 on Aug 10, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

~

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wooo rec'd!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Aug 11, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I blame the infield

The ball shouldn’t bounce like that

by Graham MacAree on Aug 10, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey man, I'm just fine after yesterday

Flashed some leather at 2nd, and didn’t embarrass myself at the plate. The field was really shitty though, with unpredictable bounces all over the place

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You practically defended a 1-2-3 inning all on your own.

Bastard.

Batting .353/.577/.471 in 7 games for PSSBL Rocky Diablos 2009

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Aug 10, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even though I wasn't there

I’d like it if someone could pleeeaasseee send me a recap (via FB, etc.) of the off-the-record stuff GMZ wouldn’t want posted from the feed (such as “what is this Yuni joke I keep hearing referenced?”) and highlights from the weekend.

by seattlebruin on Aug 10, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the USSM comment thread is just a disaster

the entire thing is about the gay rights question that was apparently asked

by seattlebruin on Aug 10, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

No kidding

I mean, I guess I understand asking a question like that but that was certainly not the right setting

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

There is a time and a place for that question. This could not have been a worse time or place for that question.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 10, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

This sums up my feelings exactly

I thought it was really inappropriate for the audience and not fair at all to guys that weren’t expecting to have to answer things like that.

by Jeff Nye on Aug 10, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really wish people didn't project their causes everywhere

Yes, equality is important. We know. But there is a time and a place and that was not it. Shut up already. We weren’t there to be preached at by a random commenter.

by Graham MacAree on Aug 10, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will not talk about the Robert end

but my brother, Jordan, did pretty well with the bat, including two homers and a triple in the first game. And Cameron (who isn’t a poster either, I believe) was flashing the leather like crazy at short and in center.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, I can't speak for the Robert end

because he actually had like 3 hits on the day. His defense will not be discussed, however.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

He only got 3 hits to spite Jeff

Robert said he wanted to bat cleanup in the first game and Jeff said, “OK, Robert’s batting last, now let’s make the rest of the lineup.”

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

No, he did a roll into the dirt.

He stumbled out of the batter’s box on a foul grounder and ended on his back in a cloud of dust.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Need a gif of that.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 10, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoever shouted "Pigpen!" nailed it perfectly

The cloud of dust he was trailing behind him for the next 10 minutes was amusing. Seriously that infield was like hardpan. The divots played hell on grounders

by Kermit. on Aug 10, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was me

Every movement he made was accompanied by a cloud of dust

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which one were you?

(it’s not very easy to ask such a question un-bluntly)

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Aug 10, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe if you guys have a good group photo, like the one where teams are being picked

It could get posted to LL facebook. People could tag the picture, not sure how that helps figuring out the people that post on LL with a different name, but it’s a start

by Kermit. on Aug 10, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had Sce 108 written on my hand.

Later in the evening my brother asked if I wrote that there so my drunk ass could remember where I sit.

by Sec 108 on Aug 10, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was Richie Sexson.

And that triple I hit would have totally been a homerun if I weren’t so immobile.

by Vatinius on Aug 10, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The second-best part of the day

was Robert giving Jeff shit about missing a few picks at first base.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think your assessment of his abilities is quite off-base.

I found him to be rather skilled at playing softball, in both hitting and defense.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think so.

I believe he had several extra base hits.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, come to think of it,
Nope good hitters keep the ball on the ground and put pressure on the defense

is exactly how I hit MY dinger. Robert-style :(

by Decatur on Aug 10, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, you hit a bitch-ass little bloop into the outfield

At which time you somehow by an act of God made it to second, then portraying typical Robert, decided it would be a glorious idea to attempt to go to third, even though the ball was already there

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Aug 10, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You, sir, came no where close to a dinger

If that is as close to a dinger as you’ve ever gotten, well….maybe you should find another sport

I don't care how well he does for the M's...FUCK ENDY CHAVEZ

by Fuzz on Aug 10, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would say I'm more intrigued than excited

but I do want to see it

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by Jack Moore on Aug 10, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops thats what I meant

He also wrote it if we’re getting technical.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we're getting super technical, he co-wrote with two other guys.

And when it comes down to “co-writing” you never know how much of that script came from each guy. But yeah, I’m excited.

by Kenny Knows Sports on Aug 10, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was a Independence Day sequel, myself.

The ships look oddly similar.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 10, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

"From the director of Bad Taste and Braindead..."

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 10, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

A friend of mine saw an advanced screening

He said it started out “semi-documentary” and “slowly evolved into a sci-fi gorefest. The big moral is who you think the real bad guys are by the end, the aliens or humans. It’s got some political allusions, but isn’t preachy.” Sounds like my kind of flick.

Phase 1: Assemble expensive, below average players
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: CHAMPIONSHIP!
-RoyalsRetro

by ratherfantastic on Aug 10, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's getting GREAT reviews on Rotten Tomatoes so far.

I’m definitely pumped.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 12, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I heard this through word of mouth playing at the Pioneer days softball tourney in Ferndale.

Before this article was published. So let me know what you find out.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You got me. I should of said "from my friend playing at...."

I actually bailed on playing because the weather was to nice and I wanted to be at the lake. But I was going to fill in for the “Team formerly known as extremes” If that was there name that weekend.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

A rec team called the Sooners

We ended up in 3rd overall that tourney. Should’ve been playing for 1st/2nd but holy fuck that weekend was hot.

by d0nkey on Aug 10, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh so you know Jacques Lavinge

Or however the hell you spell his name.

Jacques and Nick play for my league team – “Do Work”

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I know Jacques. He used to play with us

And Nick from the house. I’m sure I would recognize you if you are a league softball junkie

by d0nkey on Aug 10, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ever seen the guy wearing pink sweats?

I know we’ve played you guys once or twice in the past. I used to play for the old Fosters team. Where do you normally play.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

How long have you played for the Sooners?

Did you ever play Fosters or Do Work?

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know we have played Fosters before.

In fact, I think Fosters started out in div4 with us and moved up to div3 about the same time we did. I think we’ve played a few times.

by d0nkey on Aug 10, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to play 1B for them.

Before we disassembled.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to say that I heard the opposite at that same tourney.

I will talk to his cousin on thursday and see what info I can get off of him.

by d0nkey on Aug 10, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not. It could all just be rumors and whatnot

But I will try to find out for sure, because this is interesting news to me.

by d0nkey on Aug 10, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

He works at prostock.

And is just one of those guys that knows everything about Whatcom county baseball. He used to coach Post 7. Anyway his nephews are two of my best friends.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He would probably know about this news from a good source then

I guess part of me just doesn’t want to see him in an Angel’s uniform.

by d0nkey on Aug 10, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baaahahaha!

Oh who am I kidding? I’m a Cougars/Gamecocks fan. Fuck me.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Aug 10, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is weird.

Because I worked this summer for the Bellingham Bells (his cousin Brady was on the team) and when I talked to the Locker family they said that Jake was going to go back to UW for next year and not sign. He may have changed his mind in the interim, but I’m not sure I buy this.

by Vatinius on Aug 10, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He can still play even if he signs with the Angels

His contract with the Angels would cover the rest of his scholarship and open one up for the UW, so it’s not all bad for the short term

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by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, this isn't so bad for him at all

The only shitty thing is that it’s the Angels

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is my big issue.

Also, the one UW QB the Mariners stole away does not excite me. However, if Locker ends up being a good baseball player I will be as or even more bitter than I was about Sizemore.

by Sec 108 on Aug 10, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well he can sign. And still play football.

The Angels would just hold his baseball rights – A lot like Jeff Samardzija

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good times

I mostly just read here so thanks for letting me play with you guys. I was the bald guy in the gray shirt that was picked after Robert for the second game. I’m pretty sure this means I have a negative WAR (Wins Above Robert).

by sulles on Aug 10, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

You only got picked behind Robert because you were standing behind something and couldn't be seen while they were picking

You didn’t fall down or anything, so you have a positive WAR

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just wanted to echo this

I had a lot of fun and it was good to meet everyone.

by EJO on Aug 10, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ken Griffey Jr. Presents Major League Baseball is realistic.

Through 124 games:

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by Jack Moore on Aug 10, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

It'd have to be an emulator I'd think

in order to get the screenshots.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'm playing this season on an emulator for the convenience of turbo

But, don’t despair, I do have an honest-to-goodness SNES to go along with this game.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 10, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So can we organize another softball game?

Even though it will have less Jeff?

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 10, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Just kidding

Of course we will, especially if it’s during a weekend when SB can’t come.

by Robert on Aug 10, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hell yes

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 10, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be totally down, but I can't make it.

I’m working the Taste of Edmonds all of next weekend (the www.RideMagnetism.com booth, if anyone’s there and wants to say hi) and leaving the country pretty soon after that. A weekday game I could do, but I know that’s not happening.

by Decatur on Aug 10, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

Have fun getting anything done now, assholes.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Aug 10, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha, Java fatal runtime error

I win, I get to still be productive.

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by JY on Aug 10, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's Vista.

It’s a million times worse.

I never installed Java on it because I don’t like Java all that much.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 10, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

que?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 10, 2009 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

I’d put the beta on, but I’m kind of terrified of getting caught in the lurch, so I’m stuck with it until December when my Microsoft friend gets me a copy and I can run my laptop with a not-crippling OS.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 10, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing holding me back from installing the beta is that there aren't enough skins for 7 at the moment

I know it’s a pretty shit reason but I actually paid for Object Desktop when I got my new laptop and would like to use it.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Aug 10, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

D'oh

Thanks for catching that. I think the autocomplete just filled in the same link twice. It’s fixed now.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

What I mean to say is

Did the Blue Jays really expect him to clear Waivers?

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Aug 10, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um.

Since they gave him away, that obviously wasn’t the intention. They could have pulled him back from waivers if they really wanted to keep him. It wasn’t like they got caught in this.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

It still strikes me as insane to just give away a player who has been worth 3.3, 4.6 and 5.5 wins the past three years, and is only 28

even though he’s having a down year, both at the plate and in the field, it just doesn’t make a ton of sense to me to just give away your best player.

If the Sox can afford the budget hit, kudos to them for getting a good player for free.

by seattlebruin on Aug 10, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

So it would be $5/50 remaining after this season

for a guy with a track record of being good at the plate and awesome in the outfield. He needs to be worth like ~12 wins to over the life of the contract, so 2.4 W/yr – I don’t think that’s unreasonable at all.

Yeah, sure, he’s not a bargain by any stretch, and a good GM like GMZ could probably spend that money more efficiently, but there aren’t an unlimited number of players out there with Rios’ talent, and he costs nothing from a prospect perspective. If his defense or offense comes back to pre-2009 levels, there’s no reason why he can’t live up to his contract and then some.

by seattlebruin on Aug 10, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think Rios is inherently broken

I just think that getting a Rios for 5/$50M is an overpay.

by Graham MacAree on Aug 10, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

I am still surprised they got him for free, though. He seems like he could be a tradeable player if the Jays hung on to him.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 10, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think dumping him was wise

If they wanted to rid themselves of him they should have waited another year for him to reestablish some value

by Graham MacAree on Aug 10, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he DOES reestablish some value, then it's fine for the Sox

Not sure the timing really works for anyone, and I can’t fault the Jays for escaping from this contract when they need to focus on rebuilding/giving Snider more experience.
Even if he does end up ‘earning’ the contract for Chicago, I think Toronto made a very understandable move.

by marc w on Aug 10, 2009 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

White Sox knew they wanted to dump his salary

so they were in the position of power. They didn’t have to give up anything. And the Blue Jays couldn’t negotiate with anyone else.

If they pulled him back they couldn’t trade with anyone else.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 10, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the worst part about it.

Buster Olney was talking this morning about how Ricciardi miscalculated and didn’t really need to unload Rios’ salary this soon. Having a player like Rios in his prime, being a little overpaid, wasn’t a bad piece for the Blue Jays keep a hold of. “Holding him until November to gauge his worth” was probably the better idea.

WELCOME TO THE ZONE.

by HHZ on Aug 11, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently the first 3 hours were fairly entertaining.

It was fun for the hour I was there though, even if I sucked and was shy.

by Mariner John on Aug 10, 2009 10:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I was trying to calculate how much the brains on that field were worth

On average and also in aggregate. Left field was boring, the line ups were stacked with RH batters. It was a big number.

by Kermit. on Aug 10, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

If anyone is online at this time, who wants to talk about music?

Specifically melodic death metal, traditional ska, or the underground Japanese music scene… I can do some Japanese pop stuff, too, but only like Namie Amuro.

by lailaihei on Aug 11, 2009 5:52 AM PDT reply actions  

This is amazing!

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by Jack Moore on Aug 11, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only thing that could make it better is...

if the scene cut a few seconds later and there was a constant train of him emerging from the burning building with the snakes.

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by JY on Aug 11, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

For NOLA and sb.

h/t AxDxMX of Royals Review.

by Decatur on Aug 11, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Pretty sure you're late on that one.

But I could be wrong.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 11, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

When do we get the day when you respond only in gifs?

Don’t get me wrong, your typing speak is wonderful too, but a gif day would be tops.

by Robert Lintott on Aug 11, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would take planning.

I’d have to assemble an gif language and have it ready to go.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 11, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

The main problem is that I'm only really in the OFFTOPs while at work

but being at work limits my gif abilities, due to image hosting blocking and holy shit there are a lot of nsfw gifs just thrown in randomly.

When I’m not at work, nobody is around to gifchat with.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 11, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gary Matthews Jr?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 11, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Graham Matthew Jeff?

Did I do it wrong?

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 11, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had always seen the acronym as J/M/G

But it was more of a joke than anything else.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Aug 11, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's how you can tell when a lady likes you.

When she sends you porn at work.

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by Eyebrows on Aug 11, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone going to Penny Arcade eXpo?

I just sealed the deal and bought my tickets. I’m mostly wondering how many even know about it.

The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!

by JamMasterJesus on Aug 11, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I'll be going.

Have tickets for the whole weekend. It will be my first time, any PAX veterans with some tips for a first timer?

by Jason X USN on Aug 11, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to go

Went there just before Halo 3 came out on some VIP tickets from a Bungie employee and had a hell of a time (got to skip the line and sit front row for the Omegathon final, which was awesome). If I go this year I hope to be able to attend more of the events and get a better feel for the show as a whole

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by tootthekazoo on Aug 11, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

The $56 part surprised me, I thought it was more. Or do they have a sliding scale for different areas?

Do some major cities do that for the downtown areas, have higher rates for parking tickets, jaywalking, etc?

by Kermit. on Aug 11, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've jaywalked in front of cop cars in NYC. Routinely.

No one seems to care.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Aug 11, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's funny/stupid.

In the 15 years I’ve lived in Las Vegas, town of constant foot traffic from tourists, I’ve never seen anyone get a ticket for jaywalking.

$56 though? Really?

WELCOME TO THE ZONE.

by HHZ on Aug 11, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't believe Tulowitzki's cycle counts

He should have been out by a mile on both his double and his triple, were it not for retarded defense.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 11, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions  

John Olerud Triple!!!

Underneath the bullpen chairs.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but...

A throw to second that was flat dropped, and a panicky throw to third from the cutoff man even though they had him out by a good couple feet.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 11, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Glad to hear an endorsement of that game

I emailed myself the link after coming across it here at work, but haven’t yet played it

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by tootthekazoo on Aug 11, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait, long sleeves are against the rules?

Is that a new thing? Because wow is that insane and dumb.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 11, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not long sleeves.

Sleeves coming out of the jersey. As in your t-shirt underneath is showing.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 11, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apropos of nothing,

I’m going through boxes upon boxes of my stuff from my childhood before I move to San Francisco. Came across the first Mariners Magazine from 1998 with a cover commemorating Griffey’s 1997 AL MVP.

Top 10 prospects in the organization according to Baseball America:
1. Ryan Anderson
2. Gil Meche
3. Shane Monahan
4. Raul Ibanez
5. Denny Stark
6. Damaso Marte
7. Jordan Zimmerman
8. Brian Fuentes
9. Greg Wooten
10. Carlos Maldonado

Projected 2001 lineup:
C Dan Wilson
1B David Segui
2B Giomar Guevara
3B Russ Davis
SS Alex Rodriguez
LF Shane Monahan
CF Ken Griffey Jr.
RF Raul Ibanez

SP Ryan Anderson
SP Ken Cloude
SP Gil Meche
SP Denny Stark
SP Damaso Marte
CL Jordan Zimmerman

Question for the masses: Aside from Ryan Anderson, which prospect’s failure to pan out makes you most disappointed? I’d have to throw my vote for Shane Monahan. I remember as a kid thinking that Monahan-Griffey-Charles Gipson was going to be the outfield of the future. I was not what you would call a smart kid when it came to baseball. I got really excited when I met and got an autograph from THE Ken Cloude.

by pmc47 on Aug 11, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Raul Ibanez, not that he didn't pan out

Just that he didn’t come up as a Mariner. Also I second Ryan Anderson, his tenure in the minors was nothing but bad news reported daily.

by Kermit. on Aug 11, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some dude that never hit all that well.

Career stats

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by JY on Aug 11, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gio was in the system (way back in the ss pool) for a while

they brought him back in the late ’90s as a back-up ss/2B, and he shuttled between Tacoma & the Dome

by msb on Aug 11, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clint Nageotte or Travis Blackley, I think.

They were the big two when I was getting into the whole prospecting thing. I was never as attached to Ryan Anderson as I was to those two. Blackley was a fighter and Nageotte, even though he’d throw nine sliders in a ten-pitch sequence, was at least able to acknowledge as such and have fun with it. Plus he’s one of the few Mariners with an IMDB.com listing.

If I’m going obscure, Edgar Guaramato, all the way.

And I’m slightly appalled at the lack of Snelling in responses.

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by JY on Aug 11, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

From your link:

“Clint is the top prospect for the Seattle Mariners.”

by Dewey N on Aug 11, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was hoping someone would pick up on that.

Those were indeed the days.

They could stand to update those more often, but really, how often is someone going to look up the kid who played a younger version of Babe Ruth?

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by JY on Aug 11, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those would be my two.

Blackley was so competitive, I still expect to see him have a nice game or two with the D-backs (10% sw. strikes this year as a starter, though his tRA still sucks).
Nags just had two great pitches. He really should’ve at least had a few good years in relief, but the injuries wouldn’t let it happen.

by marc w on Aug 12, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

People of a certain generation would say Jose Cruz

I never saw how he was going to be the outfield saviour, but for oh, the rending of clothes and tearing of hair when he was traded….

by msb on Aug 11, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Miguel Cabrera's hurt.

The AL Central really sucks now.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 11, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions  

G'wan Ricky!

Twat that beardy fuck!

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Aug 11, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's pretty stupid that Porcello gets thrown out in that scenario

Hitter crowds plate, pitcher hits batter in a way that appears to be entirely accidental and isn’t near his head or anything. Batter charges mound, pitcher attempts to avoid, until forced to engage.

Entirely the hitter’s fault, and yet the hitter’s team is penalized by having their first baseman replaced, while the pitcher’s team has to go 6 innings with a shitty long relief guy and basically lose the game because of it.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 11, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

ZOMG East Coast bias!

Maybe Ozzie’s comments have made the League a bit more sensitive this week.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Aug 11, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah I mean

the pitcher gets thrown out every time when the batter retaliates. But that’s what’s stupid. Pitchers hit batters all the time and don’t get thrown out. But if the batter reacts and runs at you, you get thrown out. Which isn’t under your control at all.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Aug 11, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you see the sequence that led to this incident?

There’s exactly 0% chance that pitch was ‘accidental.’ Given that a ton of people had been hit in the game, you can say that Youk should’ve just taken it given that it wasn’t near his head, but this was the culmination of a ton of HBPs and brushbacks.
That was sort of funny – Porcello looking like he wanted to just run away, then finally turning around and dropping Youkilis. Perfect.

by marc w on Aug 12, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

My issue is throwing at someone's head.

No one is going to die from getting hit in the elbow.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 12, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see your point, but a single punch can kill someone just as easily as a fastball, if not more so.

So unless you think brawls ought to be absolutely taboo, I don’t see how it’s okay to throw at people’s bodies (which usually kicks off a brawl).

by Decatur on Aug 12, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with this conclusion in any way, shape or form.

The whole “throwing inside starts brawls and brawls could theoretically kill someone, so throwing at someone’s back is just as bad as throwing at their head” thing is a pretty massive leap of faith. I just really don’t see how you could defend that.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 12, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll concede that I made something of a false equivalency there,

but it’s not theoretical that a single punch can kill someone on the diamond (or anywhere else). It’s all too real. I was more wondering, though, if you think brawls in baseball are legit, and if yes, why you hold that it’s still not legit to throw at people’s heads. I consider both things to be almost equally dangerous (although still vastly unlikely to result in players’ deaths, but a risk is there).

by Decatur on Aug 12, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You can expect a punch coming in a baseball brawl.

You have 60ft to see the guy running at you.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 12, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because throwing at someone's head is fucking dangerous and if you're doing it on purpose you should be banned from baseball.

I think brawls in baseball are retarded (although they can be moderately entertaining sometimes) and I think that the whole tough-guy-throw-down-machismo-bullshit thing is juvenile. Retaliation is always stupid. With that being said, players are going to get hit.

I don’t necessarily think it’s okay to intentionally throw at someone, but guys like Youkilis and Jeter and others that crowd the plate (and often have parts of their bodies IN THE FUCKING STRIKE ZONE) shouldn’t be allowed to get away with it.

And seriously, if you are trying to equate throwing at someone’s back/butt/whatever to being anywhere near as dangerous as headhunting, I don’t know what to say. That’s just an awful, awful argument and I don’t see how it could possibly hold any water.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ortiz gets hit right in his big ass, causing a massive hemorrhage

Later that day whilst in the process of injecting himself with horse steroids, a clot breaks lose and quietly travels through his veins, lodging in his heart. He instantly drops dead, with the needle still in his ass. A quick thinking first responder takes a picture and sells it to the Huffington Post, and Red Sox Nation is forever demoralized by the thought of their great hero dying from a bad load of steroids, never knowing it was really a blood clot from his giant ass that killed him.

by Kermit. on Aug 12, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions   4 recs

This really has nothing to do with your conversation

Other than my imagination ran away with the situation and I thought it was funny.

by Kermit. on Aug 12, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those are good points.

But I never equated throwing at someone’s body with headhunting (I conceded that I made a false equivalency there). I was equating throwing a punch at someone’s unprotected skull (not a feature of all brawls, but it happens) with headhunting.

My question was whether throwing at someone’s body (which usually leads to brawls where such punches might be thrown) is similar in irresponsibility to headhunting. And now that I’ve typed that all out, I realize that headhunting is definitely far worse because of intent and because it’s far more likely to be dangerous than plunking or probably even brawling.

I’m not trying to be an asshole debater-type, I’m just trying to think all of this through, since I’ve never stopped to think about the ethics of throwing at people before or seen anything compelling written about it.

by Decatur on Aug 12, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. My point was that a single punch can kill someone (even if there's no element of suprise).

And deadly punches – whether cheap shot or in a fair fight – are definitely possible in big league brawls.

by Decatur on Aug 12, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

All brawls should be settled by taking turns cockpunching

Hit batter should start first, and whoever is left standing on the mound wins. If the pitcher wins, inning is over. If the batter wins, he is awarded 2nd base and a free pinch-runner.

by d0nkey on Aug 12, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a silly point then

Are you really weighting the likelihood of killing someone with a punch in a brawl to killing someone with a fastball? I guarantee you one will happen more often than the other.

by Graham MacAree on Aug 12, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off Topic in an Off Topic Thread

But is there a previous thread of discussion on the site somewhere in which people discussed their favorite baseball video games? I’m looking for suggestions and I thought this would be a good crowd to poll…

by Ike Clanton on Aug 12, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions  

Current games or previous gen games?

If we’re talking current, the only game worth talking about is MLB The Show on the Playstation platform. The other option is the 2K series but holy jesus that game is broken.

Previous generation games? High Heat was a great franchise. Another one was the MVP series (MVP 2005 being one of my favorite baseball games of all time)

by BrianL on Aug 12, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

We have the discussion a few times a year, so I wouldn't know which thread to send you to.

But pretty much what Brian said. If you have a PS3 (or PS2 or PSP), MLB The Show is far and away your best option. If you’re stuck with a 360, I’d honestly recommend The Bigs 2, which is ridiculously arcade-y but a lot of fun. If you’re dead set on a simulation, please do yourself a favor and at least rent MLB 2K9 before buying it to make sure you can tolerate it. It’s pretty bad.

And if you have a Wii, MLB Power Pros is pretty fun, and a lot more realistic than it looks. I’m not as big a fan as others around here, but I do enjoy it.

by Teej on Aug 12, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

NES: Baseball Stars.

Or the Neo-Geo version if you wish

by d0nkey on Aug 12, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the input

I was going to avoid having the discussion here, but why the hell not?

I’ve got a Wii and a PS2 (first generation so may have issues with some newer games). I’m not sure what you guys mean by arcade-y. I don’t want to waste a bunch of time managing the roster if I don’t have to, certainly don’t want to manage the whole franchise. What I do like to do is create a player and take them through their whole career.

by Ike Clanton on Aug 12, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

What I mean by arcade-y

The pitches are fast, with ridiculous break, and they have laser beams and fire and shit trailing from them. If you get enough Super Awesome Points, you can hit a 700-foot homer that breaks the scoreboard and sets it on fire. Players run approximately 150 miles per hour. Outfielders can jump about 30 feet in the air to rob homers. And so on. It’s very unrealistic — on purpose. Lots of fun, but not a simulation of the real game of baseball by any means.

So yeah, considering your consoles, I’d go with The Show for PS2. It has a deep franchise mode, but you can opt have the computer take care of the details if you don’t want to. It also has a mode called Road to the Show, where you create a player and work through the minors up to the majors. So that might be your bag.

by Teej on Aug 12, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Very informative

Maybe that’s the kind of game I should get if I want to try and get my wife to play it…

Thanks for the advice. You guys have yet to disappoint me.

Somehow, that last statement seems like it reflects poorly on me.

by Ike Clanton on Aug 12, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

GET HARDY, JACK.

Yes, you love Wilson and all the times he helped the Pirates beat Milwaukee.

But get Hardy.

by marc w on Aug 12, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

More of a speedbump than an obstacle

Sorry man, Loafie jokes are just too easy. At least I’m not throwing Twilight bait all over the joint.

by Kermit. on Aug 12, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever

He’s been raking since he came back. Turns out that he and JoLo have been worth the same amount of wins this year.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Aug 12, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was really pissed about this until I somebody commented this over at brewcrewball

If Hardy is down for more than 20 days, that pushes his service time clock down so he can’t become a FA until 2011.

Well I’m still pretty pissed about it, but this is very intriguing to me.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 12, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but based on traditional bullshit stats there's reason enough to send him down.

Defense is unquantifiable/doesn’t matter, he’s hitting .229.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 12, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baseball players are funny

Rawlings is introducing a new helmet, the S100, that purportedly can protect the human head from a 100 mph fastball. The downside? It’s kinda fugly.

Jeff Francoeur had this to say about it in the NYT today:

No, I am absolutely not wearing that…There’s got to be a way to have a more protective helmet without all that padding.

Yes, Jeff, I suppose if you were to wear a batting helmet made entirely of heavy-gauge steel, you wouldn’t need all that pesky padding.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 12, 2009 10:50 AM PDT reply actions  

I think you're being a little generous calling Francoeur a baseball player

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by Jack Moore on Aug 12, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

But he is a baseball player

I didn’t say he was a good baseball player.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 12, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It'll make them all look like Biggio!

just coat it with crap, and tell them it’s “gritty”.

by msb on Aug 12, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bacon + Beer + Bourbon Barrels + Bowling

= Brooklyn

I don’t know how I feel about Williamsburg, but I’m tempted to give it a try.

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by JY on Aug 12, 2009 11:51 AM PDT reply actions  

QUESTION

When Ichiro goes up to bat in the first inning does anyone know the name of that song?

I got it in my head and if I listen to it maybe it will go away.

by mark sobba on Aug 12, 2009 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

This is one of the few techniques that gets an earworm out of my head

A song tends to repeat the lines that I know, so if I listen to it from beginning to end it goes away.

by Kermit. on Aug 12, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well sometimes yeah, I shouldn't have been so assertive with my... assertation

Basically I equate earworms with hiccups. Sometimes holding my breath works, sometimes not

by Kermit. on Aug 12, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

For hiccups

I find that holding my breath, as long as I can, for three consecutive breaths usually does it.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Aug 12, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit.

Harmonix has revealed that in addition to “Abbey Road” being available for download for The Beatles: Rock Band, “Rubber Soul” and “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” will be available too! WORD!

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 12, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Chris Bosio promoted to Brewers pitching coach.

Was pitching coach at AAA, Brewers fired Bill Castro last night and now Bosio is taking over.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 12, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions  

IOC denies baseball entry into Olympics

Link

Bullroar, in my opinion. I think rugby is entertaining enough, but golf?

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by JY on Aug 13, 2009 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

That was an interesting link failure.

I previewed it and everything.

Real link

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by JY on Aug 13, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thankfully that seems to be happening by itself.

It doesn’t help boxing that it’s so dirty it may be beyond hope.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Aug 13, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I should point out that I don't mind MMA too much (K1 and the like)

I just loathe UFC and tend to mix the two together.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Aug 13, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why's that?

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Aug 13, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just think fights should be stopped when a guy is on the floor.

I often feel that you could duplicate a UFC fight if you go down the pub, tap a guy on the shoulder, say to him ‘that guy over there called you a cunt’ and sit back to watch it all kick off.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Aug 13, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

These are highly trained professionals.

Many of whom have mastered more than one martial art and have the utmost respect for one another.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Aug 13, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, my brother's a big fan.

That’s just how it looks to my eyes.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Aug 13, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of the guys are much better fighters on the ground.

I’m’ not the biggest MMA fan, and I much prefer boxing, but stopping a fight when the guy hits the ground is a little extreme.

by Teej on Aug 13, 2009 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a sport as brutal and dangerous as MMA

I think the referees do a good job of stopping fights when the fighters can’t defend themselves.

by d0nkey on Aug 14, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I honestly think that MMA is killing boxing because it’s so much better organized and seems to put a premium on the welfare of the fighters

by seattlebruin on Aug 14, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

That

And boxing is just boring. Nothing happens. 12 rounds decided by judges… not my idea of excitement.

At least if a fight goes 3 rounds in MMA, the spectator has a pretty good idea who won the fight, where as in boxing, it’s not that easy for me.

by d0nkey on Aug 14, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed. Boxing is extremely boring.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Aug 14, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love boxing, but I'm picky about whom I'll watch.

A lot of boxing is boring, and I don’t watch the Friday Night fights with people I’ve never heard of, but I’ll pay the $50 every time Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao fight.

Holy shit I spelled Pacquiao right on my first try.

by Teej on Aug 14, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heavyweight boxing is a circus

the lower weight classes still have a whole lot of good fighters/fights.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think I've watched a heavyweight fight since Mike Tyson-Lennox Lewis.

But those lower weight classes where the fights are more technical are awesome. I’ll probably order two fights in the next couple of months.

Speaking of, the Mayweather-Marquez fight is going up against UFC 103 on the same night.

by Teej on Aug 14, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

But this is why MMA is so much better

Even the fights between people you’ve never heard of can be awesome. Yes they have their boring fights, but in the UFC, if you aren’t exciting to watch, they won’t give you another fight.

by d0nkey on Aug 14, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Morning rosterbation exercise:

Assume, for some magical reason, that the Mariners can pick any three players they want from the other AL West teams. Who do you take?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Aug 13, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

Even though Napoli has one more year of service time

Shouldn’t the fact that he’s been worth more than Suzuki each year, even when injured, count for something?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Aug 13, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you live in Portland and use a smartphone and Twitter or an iPhone

and you somehow feel compelled to use them in a bar instead of talking to your friends, you should use those tools to help update this place. I have no connection with it but it could be awesome as it gets more comprehensive.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 13, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

White Sox have some really huge contracts next year

right click for larger version

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by Jack Moore on Aug 13, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

It's August 13 and the M's haven't been mathematically eliminated from the playoffs

With mediocre pitching, less than satisfactory hitting, and Zduriencik hasn’t broken out the checkbook all season. Just had to get this out before my brain exploded.

by Kermit. on Aug 13, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions  

7/10

Most were guesses.

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by Jack Moore on Aug 14, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ooh.

9 out of 10. I didn’t give up enough on the Mets massacre— and several were educated guesses..

by msb on Aug 14, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

9 of 10

There’s one really nitpicky one there……

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

44 of the 45 on-disc songs for The Beatles: Rock Band have been confirmed.

Singles
I Want To Hold Your Hand
I Feel Fine
Day Tripper
Paperback Writer
Revolution
Don’t Let Me Down

Please Please Me (1963)
I Saw Her Standing There
Boys
Do You Want To Know A Secret
Twist and Shout

With the Beatles (1963)
I Wanna Be Your Man

A Hard Day’s Night (1964)
A Hard Day’s Night
Can’t Buy Me Love

Beatles For Sale (1964)
Eight Days a Week

Help! (1965)
Ticket To Ride

Rubber Soul (1965)
Drive My Car
I’m Looking Through You
If I Needed Someone

Revolver (1966)
Taxman
Yellow Submarine
And Your Bird Can Sing

Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967)
Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band/With a Little Help From My Friends
Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds
Getting Better
Good Morning Good Morning

Magical Mystery Tour (1967)
I Am The Walrus
Hello Goodbye

The Beatles (White Album) (1968)
Dear Prudence
Back In the U.S.S.R.
While My Guitar Gently Weeps
Birthday
Helter Skelter

Yellow Submarine (1969)
Hey Bulldog

Abbey Road (1969)
Come Together
Something
Octopus’s Garden
I Want You (She’s So Heavy)
Here Comes the Sun

Let It Be (1970)
Dig a Pony
I Me Mine
I Got a Feeling
Get Back

Love (2006)
Within You Without You/ Tomorrow Never Knows

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Aug 14, 2009 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Awesome!

Too bad I don’t play rock band. But I’d do it for all these songs.

by royalcurve on Aug 14, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If they could just use another word instead of "games"

Then I could do stuff like this at work. Webwasher sucks.

by d0nkey on Aug 14, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

19/20

Since when is “Spokane Valley” a city?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since 2003, I believe.

(I subscribed to the Spokesman when I was in college, and it was a big deal.)

by Teej on Aug 14, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm too lazy to even click the link.

I’ll just assume I’d do badly and third the “what, those aren’t cities” sentiment.

by royalcurve on Aug 14, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got 17 out of 20

because I confused Shoreline the town with Shorecrest the high school in said town. Also it didn’t accept my answer of “Supermallville.”

Agree with the sentiment of “huh? Spokane Valley?”

by pmc47 on Aug 14, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

At 7am Seattle time...

I will be stood in the away end at Blackburn Rovers with 7000 other City fans for the start of the new football season!

I know what you are thinking – deep down you wish you liked football. Well, now’s your chance! Just start following my team [www.mcfc.co.uk] and get involved! This season is going to be very interesting as the top teams have all been weakened somewhat, leading hopefully to an open league.

Also, remember to get a fantasy football team started to help become familiar with more players. A free one I use is http://fantasy.premierleague.com/M/myleagues.mc

Cmon youuuuuu bluuuuuuues.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Aug 14, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

OH MY GOD FOX SOCCER IS EVEN WORSE THAN EVER

it’s bad enough they used to call it the EPL. Now they’re starting to call it the BPL.

DO NOT AMERICANIZE THIS SPORT

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just so you know, that's LESS american.

I got tons of shit for calling it the EPL when I was there, and heard most people call it the BPL (amongst those using a 3 letter acronym).

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

It always makes me laugh when people wear random soccer team shirts

to a game not featuring the team whose shirt they’re wearing. Does it really make sense to wear an Villa shirt to a Chelsea/Barca game? Or a Chelsea shirt to a Timbers/Club America Juniors game? It’s like wearing a Mariners shirt to a Mets/Nationals game.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's wrong with supporting team spirit?

You aren’t the first person to bring this up and it bugs me.

by Robert on Aug 14, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Supporting team spirit is awesome

but the team you support should be involved in the game if you’re wearing the shirt – it’s like Kevin says, it becomes a “HEY LOOK AT ME I LIKE THIS SPORT TOO” thing rather than a thing that applies to the game you’re watching in person at the current moment.

Or, put another way, would you wear your Seahawks jersey to a Chargers v. Raiders game? If so, what would you gain by doing so?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although it's the opposite in music.

The “Don’t be that guy” rule firmly states you MAY NOT wear the t-shirt of a band that is playing. Conversely, everyone shows up other band shirts.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 14, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Seahawks, Chargers and Raiders all play in the NFL.

Sounders, Barca and Villa do not play in the same league.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 14, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure how that's relevant though

If you want a place to wear your Barca or Villa kit in public, go to a pub that’s showing a Barca or a Villa game. It just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to wear a random team jersey to a game featuring two totally different teams.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

The other thing I don't think you are taking into account is the fact that lots of people wear jerseys as part of their regular wardrobe.

But I think there’s huge difference between wearing a jersey if a team that plays the same sport in a completely unaffiliated league to a sporting event vs. wearing a jersey of a team that is in the same league as the teams playing.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 14, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Robert, this would be the greatest decision of your life.

Also, you owe me for my suffering with Seattle … JOIN NOW.

[also don’t judge the kits, because football kits are universally awful and tacky compared to baseball jerseys].

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Aug 14, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Going.

God I’m going to be crap.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Aug 14, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

I just created one.
Name = Lookout Landing.
If it asks for a code: 1391901-278108

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

MANCHESTER CITY!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Aug 14, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I couldn't resist Paul Robinson as my goalkeeper.

I expect this to bite me in the ass, but I still love him.

by royalcurve on Aug 14, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's dedication.

If they’d done this when Keller played for Spurs, I’d have picked him every time… and finished last. I liked those teams, but god did they not play defense.

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I joined

If that’s not alright, go ahead and boot me. I didn’t mean to be too presumptive.

Also, I decided to side with the Englishman here and choose Man City as my team of choice. Once upon a time I had a British transplant as my best friend and he was a Man U fan, so I was too. But now I see the error of my ways. So, choosing Man City seemed to fall under two wise choices:
1) The guy from England likes them
2) They are the rivals of my former sin. So, as right is to wrong, City is to United.

Does this work?

by Robert Lintott on Aug 14, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes it works very very well!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Aug 15, 2009 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Becoming a fan of Man City right now is johnny-come-latelyism at its worst

So if you’re looking for a team, follow Stoke. They’re unfashionable, will struggle to survive this year, yet they’re awesome.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

My friend Mark is a Stoke supporter so there's at least one out there

he also has the advantage of being from Stoke so he can regale you with stories!

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

My interest in soccer hovers around zero, but this movie looks pretty good.

My knowledge of the back story of this event is also zero, which is probably why it looks good. I’m not emotionally involved with any part of it. The Damned United.

by Kermit. on Aug 14, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Clough was a king shit badass of the first degree

I can’t wait to see this movie. He’s probably one of the most interesting figures in English football of the last 75 years or so.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This shocks me.

Why do you ride a bike? A car’s comfier.

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only argument that I've been able to detect here is that a bed is comfy

and why would you want to sleep somewhere that isn’t as comfy as a bed? Or is there some nuance here?

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's pretty much my argument, yeah

Why on earth would I want to drive into the woods, hike even further, and sleep on the ground under a sheet of hopefully-watertight fabric?

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because some places are mind-blowingly beautiful?

And the only way to get to them is the process you’ve outlined?

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice. That's not always possible, of course

And it seems odd (to me) to cut yourself off from those places because a bed’s really comfy (which it is! I don’t get much sleep when camping, but that’s ok).

To be clear, I’m not mr. outdoors guy who’s obsessed with driving his pack weight lower and has a library of trail maps. That’s Erik. But I’ve done enough to know that there are places that simply take your breath away that you just cannot drive to. Mt. Rainier alone has tons of them, and yes, Mt. Rainier is plenty beautiful from downtown Seattle, but… it’s different.

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

And see, that's the tradeoff for me

I don’t get much sleep when camping, but that’s ok

If I’m doing lots of physically strenuous things during the day like hiking, I want to sleep well at night. I can’t do that when I camp. Like last week at the bike ride – riders are offered the chance to camp at a high school between days 1 and 2. But after 100 miles on a bike, I want a hot shower and a warm bed so I can sleep properly for the second day’s exertions. There’s no way I get more than two or three hours of sleep if I camp, and that’s not a tradeoff I’m willing to make.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Aug 14, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I will go a step further and say that there may very well be things worth the tradeoff for me

but I view having to go camping as a tradeoff for something cool rather than a fun recreational activity in itself.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 14, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that view is actually pretty common.

I share it, if I take your definition of camping as sleeping in a tent. If we can isolate the poor sleep portion of the activity and segregate it from the other parts (hiking, etc.), then I think that view is held by an overwhelming majority.

by marc w on Aug 14, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like camping.

I like being outdoors, I like fishing, I like grilling over a fire pit, I like hiking. I don’t like sleeping outdoors. It blows. If I enjoyed it (as I am aware many others do) I would do it. pdb obviously enjoys riding a bike.

by Aaron Campeau on Aug 14, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does anybody know were one would go to find a cheap passenger window for a 2001 ford zx2?

Also what are the legal ramifications of setting up a shotgun to blow the brains out of anybody that breaks into your car?

by Robert on Aug 14, 2009 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Absolutely.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Aug 15, 2009 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Booby traps are illegal as hell.

I’ve often flirted with the idea of rigging the brakes to fail in some fashion, unless you knew there was a switch. Maybe 90 seconds after starting the car, allow the driver to attain high rates of speed without reaching the interstate. However, like a tripwire bomb, this plan has lots of chances for collateral damage to innocent bystanders.

by Kermit. on Aug 14, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

My god you are fucked in the head.

I’ll be Pinky. You be The Brain.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 14, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Junk yard would be your best bet.

If you want a brand new one, get in touch with me and I could probably get it done for cheap for ya. I could also work with you on the install, if you’d like. We can have it done at my shop in Kent super quick for ya. Break-in attempt? That sucks

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 14, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any reccomendations on a junkyard, its basically a Ford Escort so finding a window shouldn't be too hard and my dad said he would help me.

Yeah it was a break in. They didn’t even take anything that I will miss, it just sucks that they did it right outside my house in the middle of the day.

by Robert on Aug 14, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a website for you

www.car-part.com

Gives you a list of all the wrecking yards locally and gives you pricing info. And like I said, if you need help getting it installed my shop is just down here in Kent

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 15, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just don't do what I did....

Drove to the junkyard all the way south of Oly, got a clean replacement windshield, carefully put it in the back seat of the Datsun, drove home, undid my shoulder belt, tossed it back … where it smacked the windshield.

by msb on Aug 15, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is totally silly, but my three year-old son is totally in to B-Boy break dancing.

He apparently wants to take lessons. Awesome. Anyone know a B-Boy who would give lesson?

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by kevin_ess on Aug 14, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions  

LLLJ

Greenwood Dance at 80th teaches Hip hop, but you have to be 6 … they seem to have a gap between the parent/toddler classes and the “real” classes … ooh, take a look

by msb on Aug 15, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Yeah, that came out a lot more LLLJ than I thought it would. Sorry.

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by kevin_ess on Aug 15, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

District 9 is totally worth it.

Not a perfect movie but really damn good and original.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 14, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Some of the negative reviews are just nonsense.

I actually have a hard time seeing any flaws.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 14, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't wait to see this when it opens here next month.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Aug 15, 2009 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm probably going to see it soon

The Mrs.-to-be is going out of town for a week starting on the 23rd, and I’ve got a backlog of movies to go and see

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Aug 15, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently it is available for download in Spain

Unfortunately the audio track has been replaced with the sounds of popcorn chewing.

by Kermit. on Aug 15, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

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