Matthew's Reaction

by Matthew on Jul 31, 2009 9:44 AM PDT in Seattle Mariners News, Great

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-ESS!

In the spirit of Jeff's recaps, I recorded my reaction via webcam.

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I AM IN SUCH A GOOD MOOD

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 31, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions

BEST WAKE UP NEWS EVER!

IF I WAS MANAGER I'D HAVE A FIST FIGHT WITH YUNI RIGHT NOW AND KNOCK HIS FUCKING MONKEY HEAD CLEAN OFF (~EM)

by seattlecougar on Jul 31, 2009 9:49 AM PDT reply actions

YES!

by Mariner Melee on Jul 31, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions

Ah, tough break Squeak.

Yeah, now you gotta fetch the ball, bitch.

by abender20 on Jul 31, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Squeak!!

by MFAN on Jul 31, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions

Dude It's actually a really nice trade for us

There’s no need to hit your nuts over this. Go over to Fangraphs and let Dave Cameron calm you down.

by Robert on Jul 31, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions

Fan Graphs is broken

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

p.p.s. why does geoff baker hate felix

by InSpokane on Jul 31, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions

Steve Phillips

I would give them whatever they wanted…

by Mariner Melee on Jul 31, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions

So Washburn = Victor Zambrano?

Hmm..

by JonBBT on Jul 31, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions

Scott Kazmir.

by Mariner Melee on Jul 31, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions

I want to hug everyone one here, all the time.

KISS ME ON THE MOUTH.

by Garces on Jul 31, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions

SQUEAK!

by Teej on Jul 31, 2009 9:59 AM PDT reply actions

She's got the cutest little upturned nose, the softest lips, the sweetest adam's apple...

by abender20 on Jul 31, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions

Dude, you couldn't get a chick if you had a hundred dollar bill sticking out of your pants

You kidding? I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast! You eat pieces of shitfor breakfast? Uh...no

by orihci si dog on Aug 1, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I wish Fangraphs + USSM weren't down

Although USSM being down made me realize there had been a trade announcement in the first place

by maalox on Jul 31, 2009 10:09 AM PDT reply actions

WHAT? WHAT? WHAT?

a failure pile in a sadness bowl.

by royalcurve on Jul 31, 2009 10:11 AM PDT reply actions

Ahhhh this is great!

I guarantee the general public hates this trade as much as they liked the trade for Wilson.

by Zwakamatsu on Jul 31, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions

It was so good you repeatedly smacked yourself in the nuts?

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 31, 2009 10:19 AM PDT reply actions

Favorites

Does this make the Mariners the favorite to win the AL West in 2010 or 2011?
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 31, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions

I think you have to worry about the 2013 A's. The free agent moves Billy Beane said they'd make in 2012 are going to make them a threat.

by abender20 on Jul 31, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions

:) Thanks.

Glad to see such a happy bunch of fans. I wonder what it would be like if the Ms had hauled in an ever bigger fish!
vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Jul 31, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions

It's entirely possible Matthew was pulling your chain there good sir

The fact that this trade does not vault the M’s into contention does not in the least mean it wasn’t a good trade. We unloaded a crappy pitcher that had basically no trade value for two extremely good young players, which speaks very well of Z’s trading ability.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jul 31, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions

He has a sub 3 ERA, how can you say he didn't have a high trade value?

by d0nkey on Jul 31, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions

Because ERA is not a good indicator of talent level and most every FO in the league knows that now

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jul 31, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions

It is a good indicator when it is well polished and shiney

by d0nkey on Jul 31, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions

ERA VALUE

Now how the hell can ERA be such a crappy stat? Is it not the best bottom line measure of how many runs ya gotta score to beat the guy on a typical night? Call me ig’nat, but what’s the defect in the methodology here?

Langerhans, there’ve been fishes in the ocean . . . .

by there'vebeenfishesintheocean on Jul 31, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions

Well, to start,

, a pitcher does not have such control over how batters hit against him that the amount of runs that he gives up can be solely contributed to the pitcher. Lot’s of other things can influence runs being given up, including the strength of the lineup, the ballpark the pitcher is playing in, and especially the defense behind the pitcher. Also, “earned” and “un-earned” runs at times is fairly arbitrary.

As a team measure, ERA is a pretty good stat. As far as measuring a pitcher’s abilities, ERA is definitely not a good stat.

by Zwakamatsu on Jul 31, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions

Ugh, ' fail.

by Zwakamatsu on Jul 31, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions

Earned runs allowed

is hugely influence by:

-hits allowed. Research shows that pitchers have very little, if any, control over whether a batted ball in play will go for a hit or not. It is very dependent on the quality of defense behind the pitcher
-errors. A subjective decision by a scorekeeper and dependent on him/her and the pitcher’s defense
-the ball park. Are ERAs in Coors and Safeco equivalent? No.
-the league. Are ERAs in the NL and AL equivalent? No.

ERA accounts for none of those things. It’s a misleading stat. Use FIP or tRA.

by Matthew on Jul 31, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions