Trade Deadline Open Thread

but Phil Hughes, Joba Chamberlain, Austin Jackson, Austin Romine or Jesus Montero are off the table, who else is interesting in their organization?

But the Dodgers pulled a AAA pitcher(Scott Elbert) from his start today and the A’s said they would take a modest prospect for Justin Dueschererererer (sp)

If we were giving away Washburn, what do you realistically expect to get in return?

AAA pitcher(Scott Elbert) and 2b/3b blake dewitt from the dodgers?
Jake Fox from the cubs?
2 B level guys from the yankee list above?

setting him up for a sunday start?( Wash’s day)

Ian Kennedy: he’s been on the DL for most of the season , it’s not baseball related though, he had a surgery to remove a aneurysm in his armpit (ouch). the Yankees aren’t that high on him so he’s definately doable. he doesn’t really fit in their long term plans.

Zach Mcallister: he’s velocity went down towards the break and he was DLed after his all star appearance citing arm fatigue, doesn’t seem to be serious but who knows.

Dellin Betances : he’s struggled with injuries again most of this year (hmm, I’m seeing a trend here) .

Andrew Brackman : he came out of the gate pretty strong but then completely imploded with off the charts walk rate and super hitable when he does put one over the plate. it oculd be one of those post TJ thing . I’m not very high on his chances of making it though. unlike Betances, he’s pretty old already espically for someone just starting. the contract is also attrocious.

They have a few other notable guys IMHO pitching wise.

Ivan Nova : he was given away in rule 5 but came back this year. scouts been raving about his stuff for awhile but seems to be finally putting it together this year with comparable # to Mcallister in AA, getting rocked a bit in AAA though.

Arody Vizciano : their big latin pitching prospect, just starting in short season ball but has a crazy whiff rate.

Manny Banuelos : a small stature guy but he’s putting up very impressive #.

David Phelps : Sickles noted that he was a potential sleeper comming into the year and indeed he dominated low A and has down well in his recent call up to the FSL.

and for fun.

Pat Venditte : yup, Mr . Switch pitcher. he completely destroyed the South Atlantic league to start the season , he had more strikeouts (40) in 30 inning than Hits + BB+ ER+ HR!!! (24+2+5+1) 40/2 K/BB ration!!!!!! forcing himself up to the FSL in 14 IP he has a 19/2 K/BB ratio, still pretty absurd that for the entire year he has a 59/4 K/BB ratio and only gave up 2 homeruns.

Scouts are kinda down on his stuff but the results have been off the charts. it be fun if he makes it.

The hitting side is much less interesting if you take out Montero and Jackson, they have some guys who might be decent middle infielders like Ramiro Pena and Kevin Russo in AAA (but yeah, like the Yankees need that) . some corner guys that can hit a bit but not enough to warrent a job (Juan Miranda and the epic Shelley Duncan) . they have a couple of guys in the low minors that might be ok in the long run but are all very far away. their high ceiling guys are just starting in rookie ball (Kevin DeLeon and Edurdo Sosa)

Then of course, the M’s might consider Kei Igawa, sure he’s been a huge dissapointment since arriving, but he wouldn’t be the first guy to be servicable or even good once he is cured of Yankeeidist . he’s biggest problem’s been that his fly balls were falling for 2Bs or HRs too often, something that moving to the M’s could potentially solve.

In taking Igawa the Ms might be able to convince the Yanks to give a little more on the prospect side too.

My take:

Igawa is completely expendable (well except that they’re completely out of living bodies in AAA to the point that they had to trade for Hirsh. ) and the Yanks would add something if you take him.

Kennedy is expendable. the Yanks would probably like to keep guys like Vizciano and Betances . Mcallister isnt untouchable but they’d probably like him more than Kennedy at this point.

i think the M’s could do well taking one of Ramiro Pena (showed major league glove as util guy early in the season, bat have the potential to not completely suck from observations.) or Kevin Russo (no power but high average / OBP type 2B. and ask for another pitching prospect by taking Kei Igawa?

so either

Kennedy + Russo or Pena for Washburn

or

Kennedy + Igawa + Russo or Pena + one of their low minor pitchers that they can agree on for Washbun and send back a AAA filler SP (like Andrew Baldwin?)

He likes young major leaguers more than prospects who are 2-3 years away. He’ll take a lower upside guy for present value.

If Washburn goes to New York, I’d bet on Alfredo Aceves being in the deal. Strike-thrower with the chance to convert to the rotation, could step into Washburn’s spot immediately, perfect fit for Safeco and a good defensive team.

Basically M’s asked for Montero and got declined, which I can’t really blame the Yankees for. This is gonna be a close one.

Linky.

Why on earth are we keeping him? It would be a total sell-high move, and SF, Florida, NYM all need some 1B pop. His absence in trade talks is really….odd.

Tiger need him more, and their stadium plays to his advantage better (As long as Maggs isn’t wondering out there too often)

This is fun.