Series Preview: Seattle Mariners @ Boston Red Sox
Seattle: 40-38
Boston: 48-30
SUMMARY
| MARINERS | RED SOX |
EDGE | |
| HITTING (wOBA) |
-45.3 (28th) |
29.4 (5th) | BOS |
| FIELDING (UZR) |
22.6 (5th) |
-17.8 (26th) | SEA |
| ROTATION (pRAA) |
5.4 (14th) | 19.1 (10th) | BOS |
| BULLPEN (pRAA) |
-13.2 (26th) | 14.3 (4th) | BOS |
| OVERALL(RAA) |
-30.5 | 45.0 | Boston |
Boston is a really good team at everything but fielding.
I know we lost the series to the Yanks, but we did not lose badly, and really, as long as do not get swept by Boston, I am declaring this road trip a success. 4-5 against the three best teams in baseball, on the road? That is fine. Anything else is gravy.
Of course, the first game gives us that best chance, with Felix on the bump. I am not that afraid of Brad Penny, but I am afraid of Garrett Olson against the Red Sox offense. Ditto Morrow, and facing Lester is not a great situation either. Lose tonight and I will get worried about a sweep. Win tonight and there is nothing left but a ride on the Good Times slip'n'slide of grooviness.
GAMES
Game 1: Felix Hernandez vs. Tim Wakefield
Game 2: Garrett Olson* vs. Brad Penny
Game 3: Brandon Morrow vs. Jon Lester*
Watching this team hit against Wakefield should hopefully be a spectacle of some nature. Speaking of, what is there to say about him? Interestingly, while his tRA has remained stable, his 2009 is a major outlier in terms of pitch results. Always around the 35% mark in ball% and a shade under 9% in missed bats, Wakefield is at 38% and 6% this season. As you would guess, the strikeouts are down and the walks are up. In fact, the only thing keeping his tRA low is a flukey low home run rate.
Brad Penny is having some moderate success this year, despite me thinking that he has been terrible. His fastball velocity has rebounded to pre-injury levels and some of his control has returned, though his swinging strike rate remains mediocre. Penny is a fastball-curveball guy almost exclusively.
Jon Lester has been really good this year, his fastball velocity is up over a mile per hour and his swinging strike rate eclipsing 10% for the first time. He has also maintained his strong ground ball rates. A poor home run rate and .336 BABIP is making him look more human than he has pitched.
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Don't forget that Tim Wakefield has this season's most effective fastball
Despite the average 74 mph velocity.
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by Llewdor on Jul 3, 2009 11:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm a little surprised there's good beer out of the east coast. Where would I find this in the Bay Area?
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
by InSpokane on Jul 3, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh stop, not EVERYTHING out here sucks. Tons of good beers!
I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.
by BRKLN M'S on Jul 3, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really want start a fight, but I would put the west coast beer selection up against the east any day.
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
by InSpokane on Jul 3, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yeah.
But the east coast has very very many good beers as well.
by Matthew on Jul 3, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would wager that the highest tier of East Coast breweries is equal to or better than the highest tier of West Coast breweries.
by acblue on Jul 3, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would take that bet all day long.
They are not.
by Matthew on Jul 3, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be extremely difficult to do this with any accuracy
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by BRKLN M'S on Jul 3, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think its just a fact that microbrews started out here on the west coast.
But I couldn’t say whether east coast has good micro brews or not. I am just sure the culture and demand for a better quality beer is more prominent in the west coast, and especially in the north west.
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by Fin on Jul 3, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is provably wrong
I’m not a beer nut so I’m not going to rattle off a bunch of breweries, but last night I was at McSorley’s which has been brewing their own stuff since before most of the West Coast was settled.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 3, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take France's vintage over CA any day
but it doesn’t mean there aren’t some good wineries in Cali. It doesn’t have to be one or the other, you know?
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 3, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You do realize that Dogfish Head is from the east coast, right?
by rlintott on Jul 3, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Southern Tier is my current favorite brewery.
by acblue on Jul 3, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't decide between Southern Tier and Lost Abbey
by Graham on Jul 3, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that if you're considering Lost Abbey and Port as one brewer the nod goes to them
but if it’s just Lost Abbey vs. Southern Tier I prefer Southern Tier.
by acblue on Jul 3, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I've had anything from Souther Tier.
I’m massively in love with Lost Abbey, though.
by Teej on Jul 4, 2009 1:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like they don't distribute in California.
Shitty.
by Teej on Jul 4, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
the secret east
Hey, I just finished a degree out in Connecticut and attended the Willimantic Brewpub weekly. I can vouch for the Pushing the Envelope, and a number of other seasonals there- and the pinball.The brewery is in an old post office, and the best one for miles, but it’s funny you would know about it. I suppose Connecticut is not exactly a secret anymore, not since the redcoats. Anyway, up with the Pub and go Felix!
by goyo70 on Jul 3, 2009 12:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a shame we didn't come out with another win against the Yankees.
If the team could handle C.C. Sabathia with relative ease yesterday, they should have been able to take advantage of Joba Chamberlain, especially considering he that he wasn’t pitching all that well.
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by Fearless Frog on Jul 3, 2009 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Both losses were relatively close, neither were absolute slaughters.
So I take that as a win.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 4-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 8-4
by Fin on Jul 3, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kelley!
2009 Safeco Field Record: 4-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 8-4
by Fin on Jul 3, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw Kelly collapse in person. It scarred me.
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Jul 3, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So Carp gets sent down while Corcoran is still here
Yes that makes perfect sense.
by OlSalty on Jul 3, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bullpen is tired.
Need as many relievers as we can get now.
I only wonder why Carp and not Josh Wilson.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 3, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot Josh Wilson was even with the team
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by gregrabble on Jul 3, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we're down by seven runs
would you rather waste our good relievers just so Carp can be up a little while longer?
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 3, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would rather have a pretty good hitter off the bench than a reliever who cannot throw a strike to save his life any day
by OlSalty on Jul 3, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes no sense, I'm sorry.
Did you not watch the game last night? Our bullpen is getting worn out. In the long run, having Corco up in case Olson or Morrow only goes 4 innings is way, way more valuable than having a lefty off the bench for the next 3 days.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 3, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose, but there are better options in AAA than Corcoran at this point
He has three times as many walks as strikeouts, he should not be on any major league team. You’re only going to be putting him in when you’re punting the game.
The bullpen would be less worn out if we weren’t wasting a roster spot on a reliever who we can only use when we are down by 7. I see your point, the bullpen is getting taxed at the moment but seriously, why Corcoran? Why not someone else who isn’t completely broken like, I dunno, Fister or someone?
And that’s not the only way we could’ve used Carp. I can see the value in letting him play every day in AAA but I could also see the value in working him into the lineup up here every day as well, given that not doing so means Chris Woodward is our everyday 3B for the next two months in a close division race.
by OlSalty on Jul 3, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed agreed.
There are plenty of relievers in the minors more useful than Corcoran. But it’s probably temporary anyway, as I think he’s the one to go when Bedard comes back.
And Carp really should be starting up here more often. I don’t see why Josh Wilson didn’t get sent down, as I said below.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 3, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilson is pretty much necessary right now.
With Yuni and Beltre out, Cenedo and Woodward are now basically the “regulars” at short and third, so Wilson is needed as the utility guy. Otherwise, Wak would be severely limited in who he could pinch hit for.
by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 3, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree with Carp not getting more playing time. That being said its probably better for him to be in AAA playing everyday.
I have a feeling this won’t be the last we see of Mike.
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by BRKLN M'S on Jul 3, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woo Kelley!
Though I’m sad to see Carp go back down. So much for Branyan-3B and Carp-1B.
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by Goose on Jul 3, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could still happen next year.
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by Fin on Jul 3, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Carp down, honestly.
He doesn’t really have a place to start with Branyan and Griffey healthy and effective, and another few months AAA will probably be better for him than really sporadic playing time in the bigs. But having Josh Wilson and Corcoran on the team really confuses me. I’d prefer Doug Fister or possibly even Nick Hill instead.
by Decatur on Jul 3, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Hill impresses me but will he be more of a loogy like a Potatoes/GS52 type player?
What’s his repertoire of pitches?
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by Slurvey on Jul 3, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea. Maybe JY could help us out.
Hill threw in the low 90s as a college junior, but has thrown more in the high 80s since then. Though his stuff isn’t great, he has always been a favorite of coaches and managers because of his strong competitive drive.
by Decatur on Jul 3, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vargas would be an excellent reliever.
Look his AAA stats this year (over a batter an inning struck out while starting) or his relief debut against the A’s on May 3. He’d get a couple mph extra on his fastball if he only relieved, I think.
by Decatur on Jul 3, 2009 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mariners.com is a bit behind the times.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 3, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that too.
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by gregrabble on Jul 3, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FELIX KELLEY FELIX KELLEY FELIX KELLEY FELIX KELLEY FELIX KELLEY FELIX KELLEY FELIX KELLEY FELIX KELLEY
In the words of Dave Sims:
“Be still, your beating Mariners’ hearts!”
by Decatur on Jul 3, 2009 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My first LL post
Bullpen pRAA: I know our bullpen has had some shaky innings and has been hit hard a few times, but more often times than not our 7-9 innings have been excellent. So looking at Aardsma’s, Lowe’s, White’s, and surprizingly Batista’s stats, why are we 26th ranked in this category?
Also, this is not a rhetorical question but can someone please explain to me why keep someone like Cedeno at SS with his batting average when you can pick up pretty much any free agent SS and with a chance to play they will seize the opportunity and going to bat .250+. Cedeno’s probably a nice guy but I haven’t heard of him having any locker room benefits like Griffey or Sweeney.
Since Mariners are having a relatively successfull season, how come veteran C.Shelton isn’t getting playing time on the big roster? I remember he was batting almost .400 for an entire month when he was with Detroit or wherever he was before, and didn’t he rip up the pitchers in spring training.
by fortyniners on Jul 3, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Short answer:
Our bullpen has been very, very lucky. Aardsma, White, and Jakubauskas have BABIPs that are significantly below .300, while guys like White, Corcoran, and Batista have been giving up approximately one walk for every strike out. Obviously the BABIP isn’t sustainable, and our success with such mediocre K/BB rates is not either. We’re lucky the bullpen hasn’t experienced any serious regression yet.
by katal on Jul 3, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good first post.
First, here’s the big bullpen post from last week: http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/6/26/926725/todays-ominous-fact – that’ll answer most of your questions. The ranking is based off of tRA (explanation here), which Graham invented. Go to Statcorner to see the M’s tRA stats.
Also, Cedeno’s a solid defender, has a good minor league track record, and was projected to be as good a hitter as Yuni (read: solidly below average). He’s the only legitimate MLB shortstop in the entire organization with Yuni out. Shelton vs. Sweeney is only a difference of 5 runs a year at most, since they’d be the RH DH platoon.
by Decatur on Jul 3, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the link
Somehow I missed the bullpen post last week, but lucky sounds right what Katal said for ERA as opposed to the other categories.
Thanks for explanation of tRA, I’ve been on LL the whole season so far but not sure about some of the invented stat categories. This helps. Some of the statistical analysis posts have been amazing.
Yea Cedeno defends well, made some good plays last night. Didn’t jump high enough on the touchdown catch over his head, but it’s ok, Jeter didn’t get the same one over his glove.
by fortyniners on Jul 3, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Locker room benefits"
Heh. Heheheh. Locker room. Benefits. heheheheh
/beavis & butthead
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 3, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morrow took quite a jump in his pitch count last month, any thoughts on that Matthew?
You know pitchers and pitching as well as anybody, worthwhile topic?
by Kermit. on Jul 3, 2009 1:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lineup per Baker
RF Ichiro
1B Russell Branyan
2B Jose Lopez
DH Ken Griffey Jr.
CF Franklin Gutierrez
LF Ryan Langerhans
3B Chris Woodward
C Rob Johnson
SS Ronny Cedeno
Certainly looks like 2 of 5 starts (Felix and Wash) will be going to Rob.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 3, 2009 2:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm starting to think (read: hope) that Johnson is getting the starts for our current two best pitchers to keep his CERA down and make him look shiny for other teams.
by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 3, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one is going to trade for Rob Johnson
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by bluemax on Jul 3, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I think Franklin and Lopez should be switching spots.
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by Goose on Jul 3, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point I still think Rob Johnson shouldn't be on this team.
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by Slurvey on Jul 3, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I already miss Beltre
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by Fearless Frog on Jul 3, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lopez is probably the best second baseman in baseball
by seattlebruin on Jul 3, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say there is a non zero chance this is true.
Especially when you exclude all the 2nd basemen that are better than him!
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by Librocrat on Jul 4, 2009 4:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dan Uggla? More Like Dan FUGGLY!
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