Pirates get Tim Alderson for Sanchez

by tait644 on Jul 29, 2009 4:10 PM PDT Comment 38 comments

You have to be impressed with the Pirates' haul today. They added some real pitching depth, including a real good one in Alderson, picked up a power lefty bat who may stick in the NL, all for a middle IF that was getting older and not a part of the future, as well as a disgruntled pitcher who wanted the hell out of Steel Town.

Good stuff. Kudos to the Buccos.

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Giants also get no money...

by w00tah on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

:-(

No bueno

Aaron King is still my homeboy... iffy mechanics and all

If Dustin Pedroia played in Seattle, not many people would be talking about him.

GET THAT VORP SH!T OUTTA HERE!!!

by baetown415 on Jul 29, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I would like to point out this gem from his Twitter:

Pirates paying total of $3,308,702.19 in Wilson/Snell trade

Did the extra $2.19 really make that deal? Jack wanted to buy a Snickers bar and Coke on the way out of the negotiation and figured the Pirates should foot the bill?

by Vatinius on Jul 29, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It was probably $3,308,697.19

and Jack wanted 3.3087 even, so Huntington just pulled a five from his wallet and slammed it down on the table to seal the deal

by seattlebruin on Jul 29, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

That's how you get shit done in baseball

just goes to show – always carry cash.

De Gutibus non disputandum est

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 29, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Clearly

The key was the unwritten part about the M’s letting him expense $10K of that to cover the cheapest air conditioner he could find on craigslist.

by chrisisasavage on Jul 29, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's got to be some kind of percentage of their contracts

Or a pro-rated amount based on how much season is left.

Try not to take me too seriously

by calim on Jul 29, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mariners amount is flat

At $400k per player this season. Pro-rated remaining amount from their salaries minus $800k is how it’s computed.

IF I WAS MANAGER I'D HAVE A FIST FIGHT WITH YUNI RIGHT NOW AND KNOCK HIS FUCKING MONKEY HEAD CLEAN OFF (~EM)

by seattlecougar on Jul 29, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alderson for Sanchez. My goodness. I know SF has a deep system, but what

is the rationale behind dealing one of the better pitching prospects in the game for a good but not great player in Sanchez?

I know Sanchez has another year which is probably pretty important to SF, but what if Beltre had a monster year. SF always seemed interested in him.

by Rudy4three on Jul 29, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I think the Wild Card standings had a lot to do with that trade.

by Sec 108 on Jul 29, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

SF's system isn't terribly deep

it’s just amazing at the top end

by seattlebruin on Jul 29, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah.

I like how the Pirates were just giving Snell away. As much as we’d like to think that, I trust that Zduriencik is smart enough to realize when a deal isn’t going to get done. It’s not like he did what Bavasi would’ve done and traded Morrow, Clement, Nick Hill, Adam Moore and some other prospect for Wilson + Snell. Let’s not forget that the Pirates aren’t a poorly-run outfit anymore. While I’m still not in love with the Snell trade, I don’ t think it’s terrible either — at least not terrible enough to show me that maybe Jack doesn’t know what he’s doing…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jul 29, 2009 4:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

*were said to want to just give Snell away, I mean...

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jul 29, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What? Is this for real?

Isn’t Alderson maybe just a step or two behind Bumgardner?

by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 29, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He doesn't have anything close to the stuff of Bumgarner

Doesn’t throw as hard, more of a command guy. Only struck out 46 batters in 72.2 innings at AA this year. Still a fine prospect, but he’s not in Bumgarner’s class.

Kevin Goldstein (BP prospect guy) tweeted this tonight: “Alderson continuously overrated throughout his career. No. 3-4 ceiling, always was.”

by patsfan on Jul 29, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn I knew it was Bumgarner.

Well that sheds some more light on it. Still, not overrated enough to fetch more than Freddy Sanchez. A fine player, but still… the key to the Giants playoff run?

by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 29, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Giants 2B have posted a .269 wOBA this year (3rd lowest in baseball)

Sanchez has a .336 wOBA and is projected for .327 for the rest of the season. He’s been more than 3 WAR for three out of the past four years, and is already at 2.2 WAR this season – meanwhile the Giants 2B have collectively been well below replacement level. It’s a pretty substantial upgrade for them.

by patsfan on Jul 29, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs