Robert Manuel
What the numbers say:
-103/12 K/BB between three levels in 2008
-Tons of fly balls
-Good control
What the scouting report says:
-Only reasonable command
-Righty
-Fastball that has topped out - topped out - at 87mph
-Loves to throw his change
-Unimpressive slider
-No out pitch
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If Manuel wants to succeed in the Major Leagues, he's facing an uphill battle, because minor league numbers be damned, his repertoire is bad, and it's not like he relies on a tricky delivery or anything. Quite honestly, as down as I am on Wlad, I figured we'd be able to get a little more in return. This is moderately disappointing.
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"I figured we'd be able to get more in return"
For a guy who had been DFA’d and demonstrated he’s nowhere near the prospect the M’s hoped two years ago?
by Nuss on Jul 29, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bavasi would've gotten us Octavio Dotel or that other Devil Rays reliever with Wlad.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4
by Fin on Jul 29, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Could his upside be like that of present day Hoffman?
by Poochie on Jul 29, 2009 12:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Or, in a more positive light
Good news: the stats
Bad news: the general scouting reports
Good news: Z is one of the best execs in the game at scouting
by Matthew on Jul 29, 2009 12:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad News: The frogurt is also cursed.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jul 29, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Sorry, what I meant to say is I've never rec'd a comment before but this deserves it.
I just don’t know how to rec.
by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 29, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Under the post you want to rec, click the actions link.
Fuck the Angels. If you see this, add a fuck to your signature. This is a fucking experiment.
by PDXTai on Jul 29, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
He doesn't even really miss bats in AAA
by Jeff on Jul 29, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was going to say 8.4% is solid
and then I looked up the average for the International League (9.9%).
by Matthew on Jul 29, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm very, VERY uncomfortable with fly-ball pitchers.
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Jul 29, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Our park and team are built for them.
by acblue on Jul 29, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They still give me the wilies.
The Yankees suck-a-doodle-doo!
by JamMasterJesus on Jul 29, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So instead of sending Wlad down to AAA and praying he learns how to play baseball...
we send this guy to AAA and hope he learns how to pitch.
by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 29, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Im aware of that but thanks Matthew.
I meant passing through waivers and making it to Tacoma.
by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 29, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im aware of that too, but thanks.
It’s still what the Mariners probably would’ve preferred if he wasn’t out of options. They would’ve loved to just sent him to Tacoma, but they couldn’t do that. So instead they just get another player who they can send to Tacoma and hope he can become a major leaguer.
by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 29, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Conor's report
He has a funky delivery, like he has a stick up his ass.
by davidcameron on Jul 29, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I am mesmerized by this.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 29, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way he pulls his arm back is pretty nifty
by Graham on Jul 29, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's more the glove flip before release
Very distracting.
by Nuss on Jul 29, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Notice how he brings it in front of his face?
Tricky.
by Nuss on Jul 29, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we traded a real W for an inverted one?
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jul 29, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
It sounds like there really wasn’t much interest in Wlad, and we had basically no leverage because it was either take the deal or lose him to waivers.
by OlSalty on Jul 29, 2009 12:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
'Moderately disappointing' is a fairly apt description of today.
Fuck Anaheim.
by Professor Hubert J. Farnsworth on Jul 29, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Now to face Roy Halladay!
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 29, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see
funky delivery, crap FB, good change… didn’t Tampa build one of the game’s best pens out of guys just like him?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 29, 2009 1:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What more on the way?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 29, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn's probably staying!
Fuck.
by SethGrandpa on Jul 29, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Says who?
that makes no sense unless the Angels completely tank in the next… oh, two days?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 29, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
87 mph...
Ron Shandler’s group at baseballhq.com had this to say about Manuel:
Robert Manuel (RHP, CIN)
The 26 year-old has been promoted to the big leagues for the first time. Acquired from the Mets in May ‘06, the Reds have mainly utilized Manuel as a long man in the bullpen. He’s been outstanding since his breakout year in ‘08. He has a career 2.84 ERA, 1.5 CTL and 8.5 DOM. Manuel doesn’t have a strikeout pitch and generally allows quite a few more flyballs than grounders, but he’s found success by throwing strikes. He has pinpoint command of his 87-91 mph fastball and he can add some cutting action to it as well. Manuel simply knows how to pitch. He also uses a slider and changeup. He may not have a lot of upside, but he’s the type of guy to eat and pitch effective innings.
STATS: Louisville (AAA) – 32 g, 3-3 2.51 ERA, 43 IP, 4.0 CMD, 1.9 CTL, 7.5 DOM, 2 HR, .209 oppBA
CURRENT ROLE: Middle reliever – will provide depth in a tired bullpen
POTENTIAL: Setup reliever
RATING: 6C
Please note they have him at 87 mph to 91 mph this season in AAA Louisville. So don’t get you panties all in the bunch over his lack of velocity.
A Sonics fan without a team... but 6 season now of GS Warriors ticket have convinced me to adopt the boys from Oakland.
by mcwalter44 on Jul 29, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
87-91 is significantly different than topping out at 87.
Anyone have any more info on this?
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 29, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gee, let me think
Should I trust a fantasy scouting report of actual, tangible data recorded during his major league performances?
by davidcameron on Jul 29, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

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