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Around SBN: Nevin Shapiro Vows To Bring Down Miami

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back in my day we had to fill out paperwork in triplicate

and walk it to Wilkins down the hall so he could enter it into the internets before his coffee break.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jul 29, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions  

With Philadelphia and Milwaukee out, who is interested in Washburn ?

It sounds as if there is only tepid interest from the Yankees and Rangers. The Dodgers are not inclined, evidently, and Minnesota has other needs. Tampa is too smart to be fooled, I suspect.

I wonder if Seattle over played its hand, when it let the Phillies realize that Lee is greater than Washburn and not much more expensive. I’d love to see Texas jump into this, but it will be a real test to get an intra-division deal done. Perhaps the Yankees will move if Boston steps up for Holladay.

by xo1 on Jul 29, 2009 11:03 AM PDT reply actions  

Worse

With the acquisition of Snell, Wash & Morrow are arguably more expendable to the Mariners now and the potential trade haul(s) smaller.

If there is a further trade due with either or both Wash/Morrow then it feels like this one has appeared in the wrong order.

by MarkE on Jul 29, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you still see Morrow as a starter.

If not, then the bullpen could use him one he gets himself right.

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by mcwalter44 on Jul 29, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey do the Twins still want Wilson?

Can we flip him over to them? Then maybe we can get another SS for Washburn? Brignac? Eh? Eh? Washubrn and Morrow for Kazmir and Brignac?

Well I can dream.

by Mariner Melee on Jul 29, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

Kazmir is not a type of guy to target.

He’s got elbow issues and his BB/9 has been on the rise the past 3 seasons, while is K/9 has declined from 10.1 to 7.1 this season. This not to say that he can’t get things righted, but we already have a guy in Morrow with the same control issues. Do we really want two high upside projects on our hands (maybe in the hope that one works out)?

A Sonics fan without a team... but 6 season now of GS Warriors ticket have convinced me to adopt the boys from Oakland.

by mcwalter44 on Jul 29, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good job Jack.

Filled a hole at SS and the rotation with spare parts and duct tape. very Mcguyveresque

by Whoopetydoo on Jul 29, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

First reaction: I'm not very happy. I wanted Snell desperately, which I'm happy about, but Jack Wilson does nothing for our future.

Plus Snell was a guy the Pirates were trying to GIVE away earlier this year. Jack Wilson’s a free agent, is 33, is right handed – I don’t understand this much. Also, why did we have to trade all three of the Clinton pitchers? Our minor league starting pitching depth is now terribly thin. I remember Graham said that we didn’t draft any top-200 starting pitchers in the 2009 draft because we had plenty of depth in the low minors, but now that’s shot to hell. In all non-short season ball, we’ve got maybe five pitching prospects max who have a chance at being big league starting pitchers: JC Ramirez (A+), Michael Pineda (A+), Ken Kasparek (A), Doug Fister (AAA), and maybe Nick Hill (AA). Add that to Felix, Snell, RRS, Olson, and Vargas, and Morrow who’ve already been in the big leagues.

The good thing, though, is that this leaves Zduriencik plenty flexible to swing more deals – we could still trade for Kazmir and Brignac in the off-season, we still have Wlad, and there’s still Washburn to be traded (I’m hoping to the Phillies if they lose out on Halladay or to the Brewers for Rickie Weeks). In GMZ we still trust.

by Decatur on Jul 29, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

Um..

Wilson doesn’t turn 32 until this december. So that would make him 32 of all of next season. Plus he isn’t a free agent, because the M’s have a club option on him for $8.4 million for the 2010 season. And the Pirates have reportedly thrown in cash in the deal.

Age reference:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/w/wilsoja02.shtml
Contract reference:
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_contract.aspx?sport=MLB&id=3237
Cash reference:

paying all but $400,000 of each of Wilson, Snell salaries rest of this season.- Dejan Kovacevic – Pittsburgh Post Gazette
http://twitter.com/Dejan_Kovacevic

A Sonics fan without a team... but 6 season now of GS Warriors ticket have convinced me to adopt the boys from Oakland.

by mcwalter44 on Jul 29, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah. I wrote this before checking Cot's. Thanks for correcting me.

But I don’t think the Pirates paying all their salaries has been confirmed by anyone else yet. So I’m still not terribly happy. Wilson should be a solid stopgap. I’m not freaking out, though.

by Decatur on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

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