Series Preview: Toronto Blue Jays @ Seattle Mariners
by Matthew on Jul 27, 2009 2:00 PM PDT
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PrintSeattle: 51-47
Toronto: 48-51
SUMMARY
| MARINERS | BLUE JAYS |
EDGE | |
| HITTING (wOBA) |
-59.4 (27th) |
-3.9 (16th) | TOR |
| FIELDING (UZR) |
35.9 (4th) |
-3.0 (15th) | SEA |
| ROTATION (pRAA) |
-1.6 (15th) | 5.9 (13th) | TOR |
| BULLPEN (pRAA) |
-21.2 (27th) | -0.4 (13th) | TOR |
| OVERALL(RAA) |
-46.3 | -1.4 | Toronto |
Well, at least the defense improved this week. Other than that it was a nearly unmitigated disaster. The offense did nothing, the bullpen exploded like we have been saying it was capable of, Bedard landed on the DL again and Jarrod Washburn is still around for some reason.
The rotation now ranks below league average for the season. The bullpen went from -10 pRAA coming into the Cleveland series to -21.2 pRAA just three games later. Feeling the epic scale of meltdown this sweep was yet? As a team, we went from 22.4 runs below average in summation to 46.3 runs below average. IN THREE GAMES!
GAMES
Game 1: Felix Hernandez vs. Ricky Romero*
Game 2: Jarrod Washburn* vs. Marc Rzepczynski*
Game 3: Ryan Rowland-Smith* vs. Roy Halladay
Come. On. Jack, make a trade. Make a traaaaaaaade. Make a trade.
The Blue Jays apparently turned down an offer of J.A. Happ, Carlos Carrasco, Michael Taylor and Jason Donald for Halladay, which if true, is nutso. Fall down insane.
Romero is a groundballing lefty who misses a lot of bats and a lot of strike zones. Hungary is a groundballing lefty who misses slightly fewer bats and also a lot of strike zones. Doc Halladay is a groundballing righty who misses tons of bats, never misses the strike zone and always delivers your morning paper on time and right on your front porch too.
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Time to hit the cellar.
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I'm going to shift my hopes for this season from Playoffs ----> Felix winning Cy Young.
My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!
This
Basically I want to see some awesome trades and a ton of Felix dominating everything in his way/
by AtomicGarden on Jul 27, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Felix needs to one up Buehrle and pitch a perfect game
But, I guess a win will suffice.
Carlos Silvelite
How do you one up a perfect game?
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Home team has to pitch all 7 innings.
50!
by joof on Jul 27, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
SHOW ME WHERE IN THE RULES IT SAYS THE HOME TEAM HAS TO GET EVERY OPPOSING PLAYER OUT
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Right after the one where they can determine if the DH is used...
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jul 27, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
AND WHERE IT SAYS THAT THE HOME TEAM HAS TO PLAY ALL 9 INNINGS
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jul 27, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, that does generally decide the Cy Young award.
Writers aren’t always the most progressive of folks.
by AtomicGarden on Jul 27, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Its a conspiracy...
I’d bet the Angels paid off the Indians and Blue Jays to wait on trades until after Lee and Halladay crush us. Well maybe not but What are ya gonna do? GO FELIX!!! I bet the team can’t wait for more hugs.
I doubt the Angels care that much about us.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet the Angels also gave Padilla swine flu.
by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 27, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you just accuse the Angels of biological warfare?
Good job!
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
And you thought the rats were accidental.
Test subjects.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jul 27, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Halladay is pretty much the only reason I ever watch Jays games.
There’s something so entertaining about that sort of ruthless efficiency. I love watching Halladay pitch.
I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.
Me too.
But no matter how prepared I am, it’s going to really suck.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm cool with whatever GMZ does.
It’s fun going to a trading deadline with absolute confidence in your GM, instead of a feeling of dread.
by eponymous_coward on Jul 27, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not really cool with this blind faith thing that a lot of people have going on
I have confidence that GMZ will make good moves, but that doesn’t mean we should support him in his bad decisions.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
What if people are not offering anything of value for Washburn?
What if they want Washburn and want us to pay his salary? You have no idea what teams are offering so how can you call it a bad decision?
I'm not saying it necessarily will be
I’m saying the statement “I’m cool with whatever GMZ does” just bugs me. Because we shouldn’t be cool with whatever he does. We should be critical if criticism is deserved.
And that being said, I think not trading Washburn is very likely a terrible decision. I can’t see teams lowballing him too much, given the constant demand for pitching and the ridiculous price of Halladay (and very likely Lee). Also, while resigning him might not be the worst idea, I can’t see him giving us enough of a discount where we couldn’t sign one of the many pitching free agents available this offseason.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
You need to forgive Bavasi so you can heal your trust issues.
In all seriousness though, of course people will be critical if it is called for. What people are saying is that GMZ has proven he has a clue and we are not fearful he will shit the bed.
A lot of people are pretty convinced that they're in good hands.
The process is good. The decisions are good. Of course there will be mistakes, but people have every right to put their faith in this regime.
I find it more irritating when people flip out over decisions when they obviously don’t have the amount of information that the front office does. Certain things are frustrating (Aumont’s conversion to relief, for example), but I don’t know enough to say that it was a “bad decision.”
I feel the same way.
It just seems like a dangerous trap to fall in to assume with absolute certainty that Washburn is going to be traded. And it’s not like keeping him is a terrible idea, unless we find out we turned down a haul of good talent or something.
There was no point in not naming a Tuesday starter in the first place
They could have just changed it to Wash.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't want to get this off topic from the current series.
But I do really need to see movement of some part. GMZ is brilliant, I’m long over the idea that he may not know what he’s doing, and looking forward to the changes he’ll make each year. But regardless, that doesn’t mean that there are not areas that may need improvement, like the way he values catcher intangibles. So it is not impossible that trading players midseason (not just dumping them like Betancourt) is another weakness. Or it may not be. Since he’s only been here a short time, there’s no way to know, and that’s why I’m really really praying he makes the trade so that I feel even better about his tenure.
...and now I'm here
This was needlessly wordy.
...and now I'm here
Oh God...I hope Jason's wrong...
According to one club’s special assistant, the M’s perceived asking price on Washburn is high enough that they don’t expect to see him dealt.
-PI Twitter
FUCK THE ANGELS!!!
Can we stop re-posting Jason's thoughts on these sorts of matters?
Please?
If you want to talk about them, go to his site.
Sorry.
I didn’t consider it “his thought” more than I consider Baker reporting what a source tells him as “his thought.”
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Rule of thumb,
if Churchill reports/relays/talks/whatever about it, leave it on his site.
I'm curious as to why.
I mean it’s free game to talk about anything on Baker’s blog, USSM, or any major sports site (ESPN, Fox, ect.) no matter what it’s validity is. What is the difference?
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We try to limit those as well, though mostly for other reasons.
Churchill is in the same vein as us not liking to see a new fanpost every time MLBTradeRumors feeds in something about the Ms. There are places to talk about baseless speculation and rumors. We would appreciate it if it were not here.
by Matthew on Jul 27, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why the fuck is Washburn still here
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 27, 2009 3:52 PM PDT reply actions
Line-ups courtesy of Larry Stone
Ichiro RF
Franklin Gutierrez CF
Ken Griffey Jr. DH
Chris Shelton 1B
Jack Hannahan 3B
Rob Johnson C
Chris Woodward 2B
Michael Saunders LF
Ronny Cedeno SS
Felix Hernandez RHP
No Russel :(
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 27, 2009 4:00 PM PDT reply actions
That said, this line-up looks like it could potentially score 2 runs.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 27, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Not with Felix batting 10th!
...and now I'm here
I thought he was emphatically referring to his favorite airport
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Oh shit Ricky Romero
We’re fucked.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Is he thoroughly mediocre?
Because if so, we’re about to be no-hit. If he is borderline above average, we should be fine.
...and now I'm here
He's pretty good
He’s a groundballing lefty who strikes out a decent amount of batters and walks a decent amount of batters. Somehow to me, that means we’re fucked.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Seems to me that Ricky Romero is one of the main reasons the Blue Jays aren't as worried about dealing Halladay.
He’s got potential front of the rotation stuff.
by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 27, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Wha?
He’s got a nice change-up, but…. on what basis should we regard him as potential front of the rotation material?
I have a few reasons to be optimistic.
1. Pedigree. He was the 6th pick in 2005, there’s talent in that arm.
2. Age. He’s just a rookie and he’s held his own against major league hitters at age 24.
3. His 3.80 FIP is more than solid.
4. He’s got a great changeup, a very good curve. Pitches that aren’t as easy to improve as a fastball.
5. One of his biggest problems is the amount of guys he walks, and that can tend to improve more than just being a bad pitcher a la Carlos Silva.
No, he’s not as good as ERA advertise, and no he’s not the next Roy Halladay. But he could be a very solid number two starter. I didn’t mean he was an ace.
by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 27, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Oops, looked at AAA
Well 4.50 isn’t great but it’s not awful. ZIPS projects him for an awful second half. We’ll see.
by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 27, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions
It's kinda hard to improve a fastball
you can get more movement but it’s pretty hard to add a couple MPH.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Im just quantifying it to look how frustrating it’s been to get Brandon Morrow to have a plus pitch besides a fastball. And maybe he does and I didn’t know it, but I’m just saying if you only have one great pitch, at 24-years-old, I think it’s better if its a change or a curve.
(Maybe I’m completely wrong.)
by Kenny Knows Sports on Jul 27, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
He deserves a day off.
Hannahan fifth? I can feel Oakland’s judgmental smirks.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
.
Franklin Gutierrez hits in the two hole.
Immature chuckle.
...and now I'm here
I guarantee you Gutierrez is gay
Nobody knows it yet
not even Franklin
by Poochie on Jul 27, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
When I first saw this I thought it was a haiku.
...and now I'm here
Flowering Orchids
Gutierrez Cheeks Open
Enter and Enjoy
...and now I'm here
by CapSea on Jul 27, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
Death to flying things
Since you caused my heart to soar
Will you kill it too?
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jul 27, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
Oh you gorgeous man
Gliding toward the small white orb
My penis quivers
by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 27, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Poochie's Comment Mourn
How Master Gif Hath Fallen
Where Art Thou JI?
...and now I'm here
I can count about 26 things wrong with this lineup.
Shelton batting cleanup? Hannahan 5th? Johnson 6th? And I still can’t believe Cedeno is starting. Please, Z, get us Hardy, Escobar, Brignac, somebody!
Another instance of Life is Not Fair, Angels edition
Eric Wedge (1 game) and Winston Abreu (3 games) are suspended during the Angels series, because of what happened in Seattle.
Chicks dig the long ball.
The Angels don't have to face Winston Abreu
Those lucky bastards.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever happened to Dennis Raben?
The Mariners second round pick in 2008, where is he?
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 27, 2009 4:39 PM PDT reply actions
Ah.
Was it really serious? When we drafted him I thought he looked really promising.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 27, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Given that he has yet to play this season,
my guess is that yes, it is serious.
Thanks.
I was just asking because I couldn’t find his name anywhere on any of the rosters.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 27, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
No Matthew
I follow the Minor League to such a extreme extent that I just so happened to be listening when he injured his knee sliding into 2nd on a steal attempt.
Guys I did my best Guti impersonation yesterday.
Playing catch with my buddy and didn’t realize the church wall was behind me on a long toss. Both my elbow and the ball left an impression. Bonus points because I dropped it. Memo to my church: pad your walls.
From Shannon Drayer's Twitter
“Beltre just went upper deck left field in batting practice”
I love this man.
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Yes
it certainly wouldn’t be the smart move on his part, but maybe he says fuck it and signs anyway.
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by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoever throws BP should occasionally throw him a slider low and away.
I fucking hate you Mariners
No, He IS a Giant. The deal is done.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 27, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
But still, nobody likes Ryan Garko.
Not even himself.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 27, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
AOL fanhouse or some shit
but he has been pulled.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
A scout on a potential Washburn-Hardy trade
From Divish:
“A solid starter for an average shortstop who has the team’s best prospect ready to play? If they can’t do better, they should keep him,” one scout said today.
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