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Adrian Beltre Is Amazing

Larry LaRue:

On the disabled list since undergoing surgery to remove a bone spur in his left shoulder on June 30, Beltre is pushing the expectations for his return. Initially, the prognosis was he’d miss six to eight weeks.

"I’d play today, if they’d let me," he said. "That’s how good I feel."

He won’t, but he may make it back by next week.
...
When the team goes to Kansas City a week from today, Beltre will be with it – and he might play in that series against the Royals.

So much for Beltre potentially being done as a Mariner. He won't be back in time to make a difference, but he should be back in time to receive a proper send-off.

I don't get why so many Mariner fans still don't like him. I really don't. He's an above-average hitter. He's strong. He's quirky. He's personable. He's funny. He's a magnificent defender. He runs well. He always plays at maximum effort. He's durable. And he's maybe the hardest-working player the team's ever had. The worst thing he's ever done is hit 48 homers for someone else. It's absurd. Beltre's five-year tenure with Seattle is nearly complete, and it's likely he'll move on to play somewhere more favorable to re-establish his value, but because they can't help but evaluate players by their potential peaks, so many people will have missed out on enjoying easily the greatest third baseman this franchise has ever known.

By pretty much all indications, Adrian Beltre should have about two months left in his Mariner career. Cherish them.

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Odds that he ends up re-signing with us, even on just a one year deal?

Much like the Bedard situation, you’d have to think that we’d present him with an opportunity to at least build up some more value, and at most maybe sign a longer deal. He seems very happy on the team, and is good friends with many of the players here that likely aren’t going anywhere soon (Felix, Loafie, Gootch, etc.). I’d love to have him back here, and I think GMZ is probably one of the few in the league that will properly appreciate his skillset

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by tootthekazoo on Jul 27, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I think he’d be an easy sell on a 1 or 2 year deal. I would think the free agent market wouldn’t be too kind to him after the injury this year, and how he “underperformed” for this whole contract

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by tootthekazoo on Jul 27, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except that it makes zero sense for him to sign that sort of deal here

rather than with a NL team in a hitter friendly ball park.

by Matthew on Jul 27, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*cough* Fuck that, go to Arizona *cough*

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Jul 27, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably gonna get moved to first base.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Jul 27, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The team can't afford Beltre anyways.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Jul 27, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jackson has been in left field.

That is, if he’s still among the living, which isn’t certain at the moment.

FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS! FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Goose on Jul 28, 2009 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

San Francisco.

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

by InSpokane on Jul 27, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So does Hannahan play 3B/2B now?

And do we get rid of Woodward? If so, then who backs up :(edeno?

Can I get me some Beltre at SS this year please?

by CMC_Stags on Jul 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Or ever?

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by pdb on Jul 27, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, he has played a few games at SS in his career.

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by BrettJMiller on Jul 27, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously, but if we needed him to, I'm sure he'd be passable at short for like 5-10 games.

I wouldn’t do it, but I wouldn’t be super upset if we did either.

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by BrettJMiller on Jul 27, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because he's probably the 2nd most capable person on the roster at SS

after :(edeno. Especially if you then release Woodward.

With Beltre back – and assuming no infielders are traded in the next week – your starting lineup would be Branyan, Lopez, Cedeno, and Beltre. The question is who the M’s should keep for the bench.

Hannahan is a better hitter than Woodward and is better at 3B, but he has basically no big league experience at 2B. Woodward has experience at SS, 2B, and 3B, but has poor results anywhere but 3B and hits RH so he’s not an effective PH option for any of the starters.

If the team trades for a SS, this becomes easy. Keep Cedeno or Hannahan (send the other to AAA), and DFA Woodward.

by CMC_Stags on Jul 27, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The minute Beltre became a free agent I begged Bavasi to sign him.

When I logged onto my mlb.com one day during the 2004 off season, I jumped up and began running around in circles in my parents living room screaming “YES! YES! YES! We got him!”

Beltre has been my favorite Mariner ever since. I can’t even believe its already been five years and his time as a Mariner may be over.

Beltre has been hated, loathed, made fun of and laughed at by uneducated fans. Even this year as I sat in left field listening to some idiot go on and on. “God can you believe this guy? Already 9 errors this year. Some Gold Glover this moron is.” I was taken aback. Could anyone really be that stupid? Even after I explained to him “If Beltre gets to a ball that no other third basemen can get to and makes an error, how should that count against him?” The fans replied “Still an error.”

 Moron.

And it’s morons like that that really make me happy. Happy because I know Beltre is good. Because I appreciate his body of work. I appreciate his unbelievable defense. I appreciate his bat. I appreciate his hustle, and his style of play.

I will miss Beltre more than most fans, and that makes me sad.

Goodbye Beltre, thank you for everything.

by Mariner Melee on Jul 27, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Silva!

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 27, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shut up

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

by InSpokane on Jul 27, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to have him here another 2-3 seasons.

Racer X. You have to love those amarillo hops.

p.s. fuck you angels

by InSpokane on Jul 27, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to have him for 4 or 5 more years

He just turned 30 not too long ago.

But I don’t blame him or his agent for trying to re-establish his value somewhere else.

by PattyB on Jul 27, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Not going to say I'll miss him most of all, because I don't have a 3-foot bobblehead of him
He’s an above-average hitter. He’s strong. He’s quirky. He’s personable. He’s funny. He’s a magnificent defender. He runs well. He always plays at maximum effort. He’s durable. And he’s maybe the hardest-working player the team’s ever had.

I agree with all of that whole-heartedly.

Well, I was actually about to disagree with the first sentence until I looked up Beltre’s stats on Fangraphs. It really seems like he’s struck out, or even wildly swung and missed, a lot more than he actually has over his whole time here. We’ve been really spoiled.

Maybe Felix can talk him into staying… “c’mon, man, we’re getting the band back together… just one more gig…”. Assuming Felix is going to want to stay…

by Spoomeister on Jul 27, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

People don't like being surprised.

Beltre’s 2004 established an (unreasonable) expectation in fans’ minds, and he failed to live up to those expectations.

If they expected him to play like he’s been playing, they’d probably love him.

There are any number of other examples of how people react differently to very similar events based on what their expectations were, but the ones that spring to mind are too political to list here.

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by Llewdor on Jul 27, 2009 11:50 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I for one was absolutely shocked to discover that a 10 WAR pace was unsustainable.

23.1 UZR and a .424 wOBA isn’t too much to ask on a year-to-year basis.

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by BrettJMiller on Jul 27, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is simply amazing.

Its too bad he couldn’t learn how to bat lefty before 2005.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Jul 27, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What a disappointment.

You mean Adrian Beltre is not better than Albert Pujols!!?

by ThundaPC on Jul 27, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

resigning players

Why is it that whenever a player is finishing off his last year of a contract with a team, it is almost given that the player will not be with the team anymore? I don’t mean Beltre/Washburn specifically but generally many players that have expiring contracts with at team…

by fortyniners on Jul 27, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Because the odds of him signing with one of the other 29 teams

is as high or heigher than him staying with the 1 team that currently employees him.

by CMC_Stags on Jul 27, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

that makes sense but

I’m sure some players typically have more incentives staying with the same team and living in the same city. People say sports and all of the transactions that happen is business, but I would think more players would want to stay with the same team, to build on everything the player has been through with the team organization/fans/teammates and if they like the coaches, even if they will make a little bit less money.

by fortyniners on Jul 27, 2009 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's say a player is 80:20 to stay with his current team

versus going to any individual other team.

The point you’re missing is that there are 29 other teams out there. That’s going to drastically shift the odds from favoring staying with the same team to going to another team out there.

by CMC_Stags on Jul 27, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beltre is the antiYuni

He always goes all out. You can always assume that if beltre couldn’t get to the ball… noone could. He is great at his job. It would take a beast like Pujols to consistantly rocket 48 HRs out of Safeco. During his time here I have thought about an assortment of options at a variety of positions but 3B was always his. I hope he sticks around a few more years.

by Whoopetydoo on Jul 27, 2009 2:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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