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by Matthew on Jul 26, 2009 4:12 PM PDT
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We have a Jarrod Washburn for sale anybody do I hear a Jason Donald for Washburn? A Phil Hughes anybody anybody?
You got slurved!
The M's are why the suicide rates are so high in the PNW and Japan.
Z looks very anxious to sell Washburn
I approve.
Really does suck that Beltre and Bedard aren’t even remotely healthy. There could have been a whole lot more action at this deadline.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
Hey it's Vince with Washburn!
You got slurved!
The M's are why the suicide rates are so high in the PNW and Japan.
Competitive fire included!
and if you act now, right now, for absolutely free we can throw in 50 innings’ worth of HR repellent!
BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE
not only do you get the veteran starter with complimentary competitive fire and home run repellent, a 6million dollar retail value on its own, but this year’s Jarrod is a special, limited edition version that comes with… wait for it… a Flipper! yes ladies and gentlemen, this offer will not last so you need to call now, right now!
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De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 26, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We could take him to Antiques Roadshow.
"The holy grail is to spend less time making the picture than it takes people to look at it." -Banksy
It's probably not the worst thing in the world
that we have a definitive answer on whether to sell or buy. I’m personally excited to watch Saunders get some real PT.
Reasons why I like Cleveland:
1. Franklin Gutierrez
2. Solidifying our status as sellers this year
3. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame?
Of the "this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you" kind, maybe.
You know, where your dad or mom told you how they were going to punish you for your own good, and you’d look back in a couple of years and appreciate it…
Chicks dig the long ball.
Disco Stu doesn't advertise.
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, table five, table five
Table fiiiiiiiiii-iiiiiiiiiiiiii-iiiiiiiiiiiii-iiiiiiiive
by patsfan on Jul 26, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
In his SBN photo,
Vargas looks like he really doesn’t give half a shit bout nuthin and nobody
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 26, 2009 5:03 PM PDT reply actions
Did you see him?
Working at a Gas Station on the I-90 corridor?
2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4
Did he kill his 80 million already?
Emerald City Funk Machine
by blackvanilla on Jul 26, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Baker's blog
But Escobar? I thought he was untouchable? I don’t see that happening, but a Washburn to Brewers deal could be in the works.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
Well, it's Morrow+Wasburn for Escobar+something
Either way, Escobar is awesome. I don’t see them giving up a top prospect in a deal where a top-tier pitcher isn’t involved.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Wash has absolutely no value to us, so it’s essentially Morrow for Escobar. Uhh…
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet you thought about it twice as you were writing that comment.
Seriously, though, Escobar is a much more valuable player compared to Morrow. I take that deal in a heartbeat. It’s basically Morrow for Escobar because Washburn does us no good being out of the playoff race.
I'd make it without thinking *once*.
If Melvin actually agrees to that, you say “yes” on reflex, get the paperwork to the MLB office on pure muscle memory, and don’t waste time to think until it’s done.
That would actually top the deal for Brignac (especially since it wouldn’t require us to take on Kazmir’s contract — I’d be willing to take the risk on him if we needed to, but he really looks broken to me.)
That said, I don’t see the Brewers actually making that move . . . I think Brignac’s still the best plausible target out there.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Escobar isn't happening.
I kind of question Baker for even bringing this up.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe he thinks
the Brewers’ FO has been taken over by pod people from St. Louis?
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Although, a Brewers writer just wrote essentially the same thing
And apparently their manager gave some quote about being hopeful on the trade market, and Escobar was pulled (in a blowout, mind you), both of which are really what is fueling this, and both of which would be minor blips on the radar any time but right now.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Not just *a* writer
Tom Haudricourt’s a good one. He doesn’t really seem to think Escobar’s a possibility, though.
Personally, unless Melvin actually does throw Escobar in the mix, I hope Zduriencik just keeps working the Rays and Indians to pull that deal together. I’d love to see Brignac in an M’s uniform.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Haudricourt has his ear pretty close to the ground
Or whatever metaphor you want to use. He was always pretty reliable and early when Cleveland and Milwaukee were talking last year.
Steel Nick
Not a huge fan of Haudricort.
He gets the best scoops in Milwaukee, but he does like to posture and I wouldn’t take Haudricort writing about a rumor to mean it’s going to happen.
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He's in the "good reporter, bad analyst" camp where a lot of beat writers (understandably) reside.
His defense of his Ryan Howard-over-Albert Pujols MVP vote last year was a good example of what I think of him: Good of him to defend it, but holy fuck that’s indefensible.
He voted Pujols SEVENTH on his ballot. SEVENTH.
I just . . . I’m one of the biggest MSM apologists you’ll find around here, and I also like to think I’m pretty averse to hyperbole and overreaction . . . but sometimes I think that a decision this stupid is grounds to lose your vote. Unbelievable.
In what way is Delgado even a defensible vote?
I can see absolutely no way to justify him over Pujols. The others on the list above him were definitely not better than Pujols but Delgado doesn’t even get the Aramis Ramirez positional bump (even if his defense was about average).
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Pujols didn't will his team into the playoffs like the half-seasons turned in by Ramirez and Sabathia
Also, games in September count more than games in April and May.
This is why judging players on things like MVPs and Cy Youngs is silly.
Which kills me, because Howard was one of the main reasons the Phillies had such a big hole to dig out of in the first place.
Dude was an anchor for two or three months. Apparently that wasn’t when it mattered.
Key to success: stink in the first half of the season, do well in second half, team makes playoffs
MVP
Carlos Delgado's Mets did not make the playoffs.
He had a good second half, but I repeat: what the fuck?
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 27, 2009 12:10 AM PDT up reply actions
If you want to see "bad reporter, bad analyst," we have Anthony Witrado too.
At BrewCrewBall, he’s affectionately known as Ritardo
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I don't think Triunfel can be dealt
since he’s DLed.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You can trade players who are on the DL, can't you?
I believe Yuni was on the DL when he was traded.
Triunfel's on the 60-day
and Yuni was on a rehab assignment. I think once they’re playing, you can deal them, but not until then.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, actually I'd probably think twice, but still.
Escobar is the best MLB-ready SS prospect in the game.
I imagine he can hit well enough to be a great asset, considering his glove.
I don’t know if Andrus is a fair comp, but you can be that magical with the glove, I’ll put up with a .310 OBP.
Though yes, throwing Saunders in might be a bit much.
Good thing that's not Escobar then
He’s a slightly slower Rafael Furcal.
by davidcameron on Jul 26, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Then I'll have to defer to your knowledge.
The scouting report I’d heard was that Escobar was slightly less of a defender than Andrus and also slightly less of a hitter. If he has offensive upside, then yeah he’s a monster.
He can defend but he's not that much of a hitter.
You’re looking at a phantom upside. He’s good with the glove his base stealing skills are above average but other than that he just shows that good SS are just not plentiful anymore.
You got slurved!
The M's are why the suicide rates are so high in the PNW and Japan.
Where is this crap coming from?
Escobar has well above contact skills, good wheels, improving pitch selection, and gap power. If Escobar “can’t hit”, neither can 95% of all shortstops on the planet.
by davidcameron on Jul 26, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He's also a 22 year old at AAA.
He’s hardly peaked, and he can already hit a fair bit for a shortstop.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
Go look up how good of hitters most major league shortstops were in the minors. Even Hanley Ramirez’s career minor league numbers were .297/.352/.430. Kids who can play SS don’t hit when they’re 18-22.
by davidcameron on Jul 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Never said he couldn't hit I just said he's not that much of a hitter.
Could’ve used a better choice of words though I believe in his defense but I don’t quite believe in his bat but as a 22 year old I think my argument is pointless and a good defensive SS who can hit as an average-above average SS with upside is valuable.
You got slurved!
The M's are why the suicide rates are so high in the PNW and Japan.
Yeah I forgot about those.
You got slurved!
The M's are why the suicide rates are so high in the PNW and Japan.
Seriously, I'd love that trade
I DO NOT WANT Hardy. I’d rather take a gamble on someone else than ANOTHER shortstop that can’t hit. Luckily we have a smart GM.
Carlos Silvelite
And he was good
I’m sure he can rebound, but uh, yeah I don’t want to take the chance.
Carlos Silvelite
Gutierrez, Aardsma, Branyan, Vargas
Taking risks on talented guys with performance slumps never works…
by davidcameron on Jul 26, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Does Aardsma have any value?
I’m surprised his name hasn’t come up yet. I certainly wouldn’t mind resigning him, but his value will probably never be higher.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He's under team control for 3+ years
Even as a first year arb eligible guy, he won’t make more than a few million bucks. Keep him.
by davidcameron on Jul 26, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
You'd think a guy who's been traded so many times would have a lot more service time.
You got slurved!
The M's are why the suicide rates are so high in the PNW and Japan.
This is the 7th or 8th time I've forgotten this.
Thank you.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know if I'd want to take the chance if it meant giving up Morrow
simply because of the issue of years under team control. But Hardy is really, really good if he regains 2007/2008 form.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I am sure Morrow would rather punch himself in the face than go to Cleveland.
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by Fin on Jul 26, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This quote, and its many variations, has never once failed to make me laugh.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
On a side note
Baker in that piece cracks off the stupidest line I’ve seen in a long time:
“But at this time of year, two plus two doesn’t always add up to eight. Sometimes, it equals four.”
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure what the heck it is
since it seems to imply that at other times of the year, two plus two does always add up to eight . . .
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah I don't think the Brewers are that dumb.
not to mention they can’t afford Washburn unless they drop Hardy. I mean, I really hope I’m wrong on this but even Washburn plus Morrow for Escobar seems optimistic
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 26, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
What's the odd that Jarrod Washburn will make his regular start on July 28 against the Jays?
At this point, there is no point of sending him out there. He could only hurt his value. There is nothing that can enhance his value now. I don’t want to see him out there on July 28.
Yeah, and aliens could land during the seventh-inning stretch and abduct him, too
but I’m not banking on either of them.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder what kind of compensation we would get if he was abducted by aliens
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have a question. Why have we given up on the season?
It seems to me that there are quite a few games left and several to play against the Texax Rangers and (wherever they’re from) Angels. Is it impossible for us to win the Western Division? What do the the player’s play for if it is all over before the 1st of August? I know they have personal records to go for, Ichicro still needs to get 200 hits, and any HR Branyon adds or Franklin adds is just a plus, but there seems little point in those things as the team doesn’t go anywhere. Is it really over? What about that expression “that’s why they play the games”? Isn’t is possible that both the Rangers and Angels could go on a streak where they lose a bunch of games and we win a bunch of games? Is it possible that we could still win the Western Division? I don’t care what the odds are, isn’t that all the current players have?
7.5 games out puts the playoff odds at well under 10% (I think PECOTA has us under 3%).
As Jeff pointed out a few days ago, that’s the same level of hopelessness teams like the Reds and Mets are looking at.
While not impossible, it’s a pretty big hurdle to clear. The players will play for future contracts and bigger arbitration rewards. It’s not in their best interests to play lesser baseball just because they’re out of it.
It's possible
but very unlikely. And at this point, it’s better to improve your odds for 2010 and beyond than improve your odds for 2009. Say, hypothetically, our odds to make the playoffs are ~4%. Trading Washburn takes us down to maybe 2% or 3%. But what we could get greatly improves our playoff odds for next year.
It’s about building a team that can compete for many years. As for the players…well, about half the players in baseball play for a team with no shot in hell. They manage to cope.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Being paid 7 figures probably helps.
And, oh yeah, it’s a game! If Niehaus can say that he’s never worked a day in his life, so can everyone on the field.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
Here's to you, Mrs. Robinson
but good grief, is that a forlorn hope.
Besides, Zduriencik isn’t looking to trade for A-ball players, he’s looking for major leaguers or kids who are major-league ready. Whoever he gets will help us now, not just three years from now.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 6:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to start over, because I've gotten bumped off a few times.
I don’t care if you are a starter. Ichiro will get his hits, as will everyone else who has been on the team for a while. Let’s talk about those who haven’t. The M’s have “officially” give up. It’s July 26th. This is ridicioulous to me, but whatever. I’m sorry, I can’t make this work for me.
The organization realizes that the odds of this team making the playoffs are virtually nil, and they can get valuable pieces for the future in exchange for things they don't need.
I don’t see why this is so difficult for you to handle.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 26, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you have given up on July 26th last year?
Because honestly, even if this team is way better, our odds aren’t appreciably better.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 26, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions
And really, the odds of anything the org does making the team much worse this year are pretty slim.
I doubt Branyan or Aardsma get moved and Washburn isn’t a huge loss, especially if he helps net us a shortstop. There’s a chance the team post deadline is better than the current one. The only difference is that now the FO has an excuse to move Washburn.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 26, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand the amount of games we are back.
BUT, I thought there were talks that we can sell and help our future without hurting this year’s chances. NOW, is the decision to just trade everyone except( Gutierrez,Ichiro, and Felix)?
Absolutely not. The plan is to trade things that aren't going to mean much to us this year.
We have a tiny chance of making the playoffs. Whether or not we have Washburn doesn’t really affect that very much, so trade him.
Or, in other words, Washburn might raise our playoff odds from 5% to 8%.
Either way, we need to understand what kind of long shot we’re dealing with, and act accordingly.
Getting something nice for Washburn will make it easier for us
My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!
Yeah, that's true.
You know what I mean though? I completely understand that it is way better to build for the future, but another part of me says that we shouldn’t give up on the season because there are two months or so left in the season. Man, it’s hard being a Mariners fan sometimes.
Repeat after me:
Trading Washburn isn’t giving up on the season.
Trading Washburn isn't giving up on the season.
2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4
You don't have too.
We’ll all still be rooting for the team to win and for the Angels to lose, but right now the odds of that happening are small the team would be best served to turn players like Washburn into pieces that could help us in the future. You don’t have to give up on the season, hey the odds of us making the playoffs aren’t 0%, but just understand that the odds are small and the team does have a few pieces to sell.
Probability. Reality.
If you are a professional ballplayer, of course you don’t give up today. And if you’re a fan, you don’t stop cheering. But if you are charged with turning around a moribund franchise, you absolutely have to recognize when the gamble becomes too much of a risk. This team has a tiny, TINY chance of winning enough games to make the playoffs. You can’t pass up an opportunity to greatly improve the 2010 team to chase that 5% chance.
Plus Washburn is still mediocre. As AC mentions, it’s not like a trade is going to make us much worse this year anyway.
by Teej on Jul 27, 2009 12:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Okay....
I’ll bite:
1) There is a thing called a “trade deadline.” Either we trade by then or we get nothing. Period. There is no in between. That trade deadline is in 4 days. So to not trade our players you have to believe that a) We have a good enough chance of making the playoffs in order to purposefully not get any help at all for future seasons, and b) The players we trade away are so vital for our survival as a team that we cannot live without them and will become the new Nationals.
If you can honestly say both of those, then you’re just wrong.
2) “Punting the season” means trading some players for a chance at 2010 and 2011, because 2009 seems unlikely. It does not mean “start losing on purpose.” If you think we can beat the Angels now with our team as currently constructed, then you should also have no problem believing that we still have a chance even if we have to lose a couple of players. If you believe we have a 10% chance now and that’s worth going for, then is a 5% chance not okay if it improves our chances next year? Trading Washburn, Bedard – even if we wanted to trade Gutz and Branyan. These will reduce our odds, but not by any degree that matters if you still believe 10% matters. And if trading anyone ups our chances in 2010 by more than the drop we get losing them in 2009, then you should have no problem with it.
...and now I'm here
Not quite
This is the non-waiver trade deadline; you can still trade players in August if you can pass them through waivers. Washburn, at least, would probably get through waivers. Still, he’s going to have more value now than in August, so if he’s on our roster August 1, I’ll be annoyed.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm aware of the waiver trades, but banking on them is poor decision making and in general I think they should be ignored when we are discussing getting anything back of value.
While it is indeed possible, the chances of getting anyone back via waiver that will truly help us in 2010 seems so slim as to be almost irrelevant.
...and now I'm here
As I said, I mostly wasn't disagreeing with you
just noting that in saying, “Either we trade by then or we get nothing. Period. There is no in between,” you actually weren’t quite telling the whole story.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think Washburn has any chance to get through waivers
he has the fourth best ERA in the league and would only be under contract for two more months. Someone will claim him.
by seattlebruin on Jul 27, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions
He's still owed a fair bit of $$$ in those two months
but if someone did claim him, we could still work out a deal.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Not really - it's like $3.5M
that’s nothing to pay for a guy who has dominated the league by traditional metrics
by seattlebruin on Jul 27, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
The figure will only decrease as the season goes on.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 27, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions
You don't think most teams in a playoff race can absorb an extra three million or so for a stater?
the money is going to be a deterrent when it comes to players like Halladay because he makes big bucks and is under contract for next season as well. Last year, Washburn made it through waivers because he had been having a meh season (for him) that didn’t look that good on the surface and had another year to go. Washburn will not clear waivers this year.
Seriously, do you think that the 2.5-3 million or so Washburn willl be owed would stop the Dodgers, SF, St Louis, Yankees, CO, Angels, Detroit, Minnesota, Red Sox, Phillies etc? ALL of them? it only takes one you know.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 27, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
The Yankees asked the Pirates to throw in money with Hinske
so yes, I think the chance of having to pay all of it would be a deterrent. If a team did claim him, I’m pretty confident it would be because they wanted him, but that they’d be motivated to make a deal because they’d want us to cover his salary (or at least a good chunk of it).
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I can't understand this comment so I guess we're even.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 27, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
In an odd bit of symmetry I can't get this comment to work for me so I guess we're square
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
This isn't a general retreat, I like to think of it as an organized withdrawal.
Faced with overwhelming odds and superior forces, Zduriencik is keeping the enemy engaged on the field of battle while re-ordering the main body of his command, until such time he achieves the tactical advantage. In combat, some associate tactics with science, and maneuver with art. In their current form the Mariners are hardly Patton’s Third Army rolling up the belly of the Rhine, able to strike hammer blows and having the resources to follow through for decisive victory. They are more Rommel’s Afrika Corps, able to achieve victory in battle but lack the ability to hold ground due to being overextended and under equipped.
by Kermit. on Jul 27, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
More like our Chosin Reservoir, imho
and we’re advancing to the rear in an orderly fashion; I have every confidence that we’ll be able to stabilize the line north of Inchon.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
It just wasn't that bad
This weekend drove us back, but it did not wipe us out; it knocked us out of the playoff race, but it’s not like we’re now likely to finish up with another 100-loss season.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Not meeting you is by far my greatest regret about not attending LL/USSM
by seattlebruin on Jul 27, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
No reason to worry,
just pick one of these up.
by Sec 108 on Jul 27, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd for muppets and Kermit slander
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jul 27, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Guess he didn't hear about the recall, something about choking on small parts
Too bad, Sec 108 seemed like a decent sort of fellow
by dpseadv on Jul 27, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
What I've always wanted to do is take a train down the Pacific coast, and catch some games along the way.
Short stadium/scenic tour by train. I should somehow make this happen, whether or not Amtrak schedules and routes make it feasible is unknown.
It's a blast if you have the time
My wife and I took the train from Portland to LA a couple years ago. Was supposed to take 26 hours, took almost 40. Same on the way back. But the sleeper car is pretty cool, you can get all your meals in there if you don’t want to eat in the dining car or whatever. And they have wine tasting at 5pm every day.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Salk is my hero.
Finally, I wanted to respond to a comment below.
milt wrote…
it’s no coincidence the m’s are losing (looking like 2 in a row) and Junior is not playing. He is such a presence, electrifies the crowd and then electrifies the team. Baseball is such a mental game and Junior helps the team relax, enjoy the game and not tightened up because they are in the race. Too bad. there you are Junior haters.
July 25, 2009 3:18 pm
Yes Milt, it is a coincidence. Junior had no effect on the pitching in either of the two games. Ryan Rowland-Smith pitched well, but no well enough to win yesterday. Bedard was not effective today. Neither had anything to do with the DH.
You're overlooking the fact that he played for the Nationals
and therefore can’t possibly any good.
Fuck Anaheim.
by Eyeball Kid on Jul 27, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, Langerhans has power, too
Maybe not as much raw power as Wlad, but he can still put a real charge in the ball; and if anything, it shows up in the actual games more often.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Um, I think you're confused about what the five tools are
for those people here who don’t actually ever watch baseball, they’re
Hit for Power
Hit for Power
Hit for Power
Hit for Power
Hit for Power
I think that makes Wladimir Balentien a clear five-tool player
by seattlebruin on Jul 27, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a tool, it doesn't mean he's good at it yet
by seattlebruin on Jul 27, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Right
“tool” is one thing — “skill” is quite another.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 27, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
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