Reid Brignac Pulled From Durham Lineup
I'll talk a little about the Wlad/Saunders decision in a minute, but in the meantime, this could be one big developing story.
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Sweet Jesus.
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by JY on Jul 25, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tease.
Could this be leading to sexy results?
by pmc47 on Jul 25, 2009 10:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will shit a brick if Wlad and Brignac are connected.
by Wilder. on Jul 25, 2009 10:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... not likely
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beautiful
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jul 25, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is probably my favorite part of the deadline
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The senseless speculation?
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by JY on Jul 25, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, so I'll toss this out now
I’ve been hearing for a few days that the M’s were involved as a third team in a Cliff Lee to Tampa Bay deal. The Indians want more pitching than the Rays want to give up and don’t have a use for Brignac (because we already gave them an awesome LH hitting SS…), so the M’s would get Brignac and send additional pitching to the Rays.
What that looks like is up in the air. I’ve heard Morrow/Clement to Cleveland in a huge deal that also sends Victor Martinez to Tampa. I’ve heard that we’d absorb Kazmir’s contract too in order to make TB be able to fit Lee into their budget. I’ve heard smaller deals where it’s just Morrow.
Guess we’ll see.
by davidcameron on Jul 25, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, how will we ever absorb Kazmir's contract AND take on Brignac?
Whatever shall we do?!
by Wilder. on Jul 25, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn would almost certainly go away quickly
His contract and Washburn’s are nearly identical this year. The M’s would probably then move him for the best prospect they could get, and the salaries would come out even for this year.
So, basically, the rumor (and it’s still that for now) is that the M’s would turn Washburn/Morrow/Maybe Clement into Brignac/Kazmir/Prospect.
Yeah, I’d be happy with that.
by davidcameron on Jul 25, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn would go to Tampa Bay in this scenario?
If that is the case, wouldn’t Bedard be more likely?
by Wilder. on Jul 25, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Washburn would go somewhere else in a separate transaction
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait wait wait....
So we’d be giving up Clement and Morrow for Brignac? Or are we also getting Kazmir?
by ManifestDestiny on Jul 25, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we end up with Kazmir that would excite me.
I have a hard time believing he’s really a replacement level pitcher.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we would get Brignac and Kazmir for Morrow and Clement, that would be an amazing deal.
by CstSnow on Jul 25, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m no Mariners fan, but yeah, I’d say that’s definite win for you guys.
I don’t see why we would want Clement though.
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by westbrook on Jul 25, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who also follows the Dodgers
that stings, a lot.
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by bluemax on Jul 25, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clement's kind of a Victor Martinez type of catcher
that is, more of a DH.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would explode if something that awesome happened
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by I'm NOT Corco on Jul 25, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
GLEE.
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by JY on Jul 25, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a lot of really intelligent people trading with each other.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd think the three of them would've agreed to bring in a team of retards just for funsies
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Psst. Hey Nationals, want a power hitting toolsy outfielder?
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jul 25, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damnit, you beat me to it.
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by JY on Jul 25, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matthew made this exact same comment
I wonder if we can get the Mets to ever trade with us again.
by Robert on Jul 25, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know, we could use a good hitting 3rd baseman after this season.
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by Fin on Jul 25, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minaya would take Beluga Tits, I think.
Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
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by JLProck on Jul 25, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Got anyone who speaks spanish and/or was good two years ago you don't want?
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by Sam Page on Jul 25, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why the hell am I laughing so hard right now?
Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
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by JLProck on Jul 25, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a common reaction to comments of a humorous nature.
by abender20 on Jul 25, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a funny comment, to say the least.
But I was laugh unexplainably loud at the time. Maybe I was just in a funny frame of mind.
Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
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by JLProck on Jul 25, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Kazmir still busted, or is he on the path to fixed since being sent down and called back up?
A 6.23 tRA (5.52 tRA*) in 2009 that earns $8M in 2010 and $12M in 2011 is hard to get excited about, but is there anything in his peripherals that implies bad luck? Dave’s article from May doesn’t seem that promising. Has there been a significant change in his profile since then? Or does WOO BRIGNAC override any concerns about Kazmir?
by pmc47 on Jul 25, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would like to know where his velocity is? I would like to see what Adair could do with him
as long as there isn’t some underlying physical issue with Kazmir.
by Rudy4three on Jul 25, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His velocity is up last two starts
Hit 95 in each of his last two starts. He’s still a massive risk, but it’s something.
by davidcameron on Jul 25, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The M's seem down on Morrow, I think they'd take that risk as long as it bring back the
SS they desire.
by Rudy4three on Jul 25, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure they're *down* on Morrow
but at this point, he might really need to get out of this organization if he’s going to succeed. I’d rather have him than Kazmir, given Kazmir’s contract, but we can afford the latter, and I’d be happy to see us take the risk on him in order to get Brignac, if all we’re giving up otherwise is Clement.
What I don’t see, in the versions of this deal floating around, is how this makes sense for the Indians. Maybe they’re still wrangling over what pitcher(s) TB will give Cleveland, because Morrow/Clement just doesn’t carry the freight as a straight-up return for Lee.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 5:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the Indians' side
We’re still supposed to get a pitcher from TB. And there’s still no assurance that Clement is part of the deal.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jul 26, 2009 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I said, "in the versions I've seen"
and I figured somebody like Wade Davis had to be heading Cleveland’s way for this to make any sense at all.
by The Ancient Mariner on Jul 26, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But doesn't Tampa have Navarro?
I don’t see why they need Hay is is Victor Martinez too.
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by Fin on Jul 25, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Navarro has been bad this year, and they could always use the DH spot for Martinez
by Rudy4three on Jul 25, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then Cleveland would be filled entirely with former Mariners.
by marinerdan on Jul 25, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well Valbuena, Choo, Asdrubal Cabrera and now maybe Morrow/Clement
is a decent haul too.
by marinerdan on Jul 25, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should try to fill the entire AL Central with former M's.
We already have a start with Podsednik and Carlos Guillen/Ramon Santiago
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by JY on Jul 25, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It says so much about each front office that KC is filled with shitty Mariner castoffs
and Cleveland wth quality Mariner prospects.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec!
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by westbrook on Jul 25, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indians fan
I’d love Davis from TB and Morrow.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jul 25, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well this is exciting
The great thing about Lee going to the Rays is it leaves Washburn the second most eligible bachelor on the trading block. The Phillies have pretty much come out and sad that if they can’t get one of Lee/Halladay it’s Jarrod city for them, and if we pick up Kazmir then anything at all we can get back for Washburn is just super. Come on Amaro, you need a veteran dolphin.
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey that point is really excellent, moving Kazmir and at the same time increasing the value/immediacy of Washburn
There’s without doubt a better way to structure that sentence, but all the player movement today is pushing my giddy button and your angle on the situation just gave it another push . Yahoooo!
by Kermit. on Jul 25, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to the Durham-Norfolk radio broadcast
for any hints of injury vs. impending deal. Is this a fool’s errand?
Yes, going outside during the weekend is for people with real lives.
by pmc47 on Jul 25, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is what smart phones with 3g internet was made for.
by marinerdan on Jul 25, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes but right now my family think i am an anti social jerk
also please god let daves rumour be true
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jul 25, 2009 11:41 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I'll do what I can to update you via email if something goes down
I’ll be out much of the day, but following what I can on my iPhone. If something happens and I have an opportunity, I’ll let you know
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by tootthekazoo on Jul 25, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
cheers man
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
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by EnglishMariner on Jul 25, 2009 11:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Can't you get twitter for your phone?
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by Fin on Jul 25, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brignac is apparently expected to be in the lineup for tonight's half of Durham's double-header
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2009 11:52 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
by Zwakamatsu on Jul 25, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something has to be going on though
There has to be an explanation for why he got pulled. Perhaps the Rays just intend to get something done before 4pm.
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're saying over at DRB that Brignac got pulled for doing his best BJ Upton impression.
by BrianL on Jul 25, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Htting liie a maniac?
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posturing!
It’s just cover up bullshit while they finalise stuff. (I don’t know that, I’m just guessing)
by marinerdan on Jul 25, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Briggy was pulled for not hustling to 1st, according to @tborays
So much hate flowing through me right now. I wanted this deal done. So. Much. Hate.
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by ReasonableDoubt on Jul 25, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like Vargas has been scratched from his start tonight in Tacoma
So much going on, and it’s not really even noon yet
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by tootthekazoo on Jul 25, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Vargas scratched from his start tonight
Presumably he’ll start tomorrow instead of Jak.
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So the Jays' demands for Halladay have been rejected by Philly
as of this morning and Amaro has already said that if not Halladay his team is interested in Lee, Bedard and Washburn. Also, they seem to be totally willing to part with Carrasco.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It just feels like the night before Christmas, doesn't it? (I'm assuming, anyway)
by abender20 on Jul 25, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We better get that new video game system and not another sweater.
by Wilder. on Jul 25, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NINTENDO 64!!!!!
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Now, who/what will be our Nintendo 64?
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by tootthekazoo on Jul 25, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yamauchi approves of this comment
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Griffey is our Nintendo 64.
It was fucking sweet in 1997 and now it’s old, collecting dust, and the joystick doesn’t move so freely.
by abender20 on Jul 25, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Mario Kart is still the most fun I have playing video games
but I’ll admit I haven’t touched any of the consoles that have come out in the last three years
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's medicines advertised all over TV that will help his joystick move more freely
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by tootthekazoo on Jul 25, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are many many reasons I do not want Halladay in Philly
by Poochie on Jul 25, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sad thing for Toronto is that even if they can get 3 top prospects from Philly, they still will be screwed in the AL East.
by abender20 on Jul 25, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Ricciardi wakes up every day hoping Vernon Wells will just retire.
by abender20 on Jul 25, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it looks like its not happening
the consensus seems to be he’s not going anywhere. And if he does, I kinda hope he goes to Anaheim.
De Gutibus non disputandum est
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heyman still likes him going to Philly
Even after they turned down the offer. Then again Heyman can be a windbag.
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jul 25, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heyman has been saying Philly all the way
and so he’ll never back off of it.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 25, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pulled from the doubleheader today, I presume?
I was at the Durham game last night and he was playing.
by FlaskInSafeco on Jul 25, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
Although they waited an inning to pull him for not running out an infield fly.
That seems silly.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 25, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So am I.
The Bulls AGM didn’t give a reason for him being pulled either, simply said they expect him back in tonight’s lineup.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 25, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thought I would have given all of this (probably because I am a very depressed person)
is that the deal hit a snag and they had to backtrack.
by acblue on Jul 25, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah I think this makes the most sense
Pulling a player for lack of effort only to put him in a few hours later just doesn’t make sense. If he’s actually in the lineup, this has gotta be it.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 25, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um.
BenBadler Per durham manager, Reid Brignac will play 2nd game today. Right leg was bothering him
Uh-huh.
by R.J. Anderson on Jul 25, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The fuck?
Really?
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by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 25, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we've gone from pulled for being lazy to pulled because of a slight injury?
by BrianL on Jul 25, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh, must have a degenerative hip condition.
Must. Trade. Now. To. Seattle.
by Wilder. on Jul 25, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to laugh if he ends up traded to a non-Seattle team
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 25, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to the pregame on the radio right now
Wakamatsu said that they have another move to announce, but they’ll do it after the game because they don’t want to bother anybody on the team with it. Probably just to announce that Vargas will be starting tomorrow, and the corresponding roster move to get him up here
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by tootthekazoo on Jul 25, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Though I wonder who they'll move to get Vargas back up here
Bullpen is already kinda thin, so I figure it would be a position player of some sort. We don’t really have anybody we can easily move aside for him, do we?
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by tootthekazoo on Jul 25, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn’t hear? We acquired Felix for Ryan Garko.
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by westbrook on Jul 25, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nevermind. that joke didn’t work like i wanted it to.
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by westbrook on Jul 25, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it fell pretty flat
By the way, it is strongly recommended around here to use the subject line when commenting. Just a friendly reminder
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by tootthekazoo on Jul 25, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It takes a big man, Westy
Steel Nick
by nickjs21 on Jul 25, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I asked Dave that question
And he said probably Shelton or they’ll just wait until a trade.
by Jeff on Jul 25, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for that answer
Stupid Griffey and Sweeney, making our roster semi-immobile. I was figuring him to be the only one really able to be moved, but what a waste having to send him back to Tacoma
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by tootthekazoo on Jul 25, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By saying the don't want to bother anyone
Don’t they run the risk of bothering everyone with baseless speculation?
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 25, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's wrong with baseless speculation?
by FlaskInSafeco on Jul 25, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the clubhouse, I mean
Where I would imagine it is very bothersome.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 25, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, that's fair.
I enjoy baseless speculation from time to time, but I guess the Mariners probably don’t consider my feelings about this when making announcements.
by FlaskInSafeco on Jul 25, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baker's take
By the way, for those of you asking about Reed Brignac, the Class AAA shortstop prospect from the Rays, being lifted in today’s Durham game, my Florida contact just told me his leg was bothering him and that he is expected to play Game 2 of tonight’s day-night doubleheader. We’re aware of the trade rumors, yes, and have been looking into them all morning. But for now, nothing appears imminent.
Not much new information, but he believes nothing is imminent.
FUCK THE ANGELS!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 25, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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