51-45, Chart

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 24, 2009 9:58 PM PDT in Seattle Mariners Game Recaps

Biggest Contribution: Shawn Kelley, +0.7%
Biggest Suckfest: Ronny :(edeno, -9.0%
Most Important AB: Branyan DP, -7.2%
Most Important Pitch: Hafner homer, -16.4%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -5.5%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -46.7%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +2.2%
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Our biggest contribution was +0.7%

My Mariners blog - SodoMojo Twitter Feed, Fuck the fucking Angels!

by gregrabble on Jul 24, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions

The fact that the Angels and the Texas appear to be holding hands makes them that much more dickish

by Poochie on Jul 24, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions

They're actually both masturbating.

Onto the corpse of Oakland.

by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 24, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions

The compass rose needs to be shedding a single tear.

Jabs the knife in a little deeper…

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Jul 24, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions

I had the same thought.

Kinda like the Litter-Hating Indian Chief.

by msb on Jul 24, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't completely understand these charts,

But how, How, HOW is Batista not the biggest suckfest?

Please note, I am not questioning your competence, merely publicly lamenting the thorn that’s been stuck in my side for the past two years.

~I'm on the DA~

by section331 on Jul 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions

They are based on leverage.

Game was pretty much lost by the time he came in.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 24, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Ohhhhh.

OK, that makes sense. Thanks!

Still, Batista can eat it. :p

~I'm on the DA~

by section331 on Jul 24, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Game was virtually over when Batista came in. Down 4-0 in the 9th, the odds of winnging were extremely low.

by MFAN on Jul 24, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Thank you both. :)

~I'm on the DA~

by section331 on Jul 24, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions

It's cute that the little Mariner guy is waving and not fliping them off.

by MFAN on Jul 24, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions

That's what makes it Northwest.

~I'm on the DA~

by section331 on Jul 24, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions

A little Red Sox or Yankee would flip them off.

by MFAN on Jul 24, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Truth!

~I'm on the DA~

by section331 on Jul 24, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions

He's going to go home afterwards, angrily down a couple of soy yogurts before he goes into his room and cuts himself.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jul 24, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions

by HARRYP09 on Jul 24, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions

That pretty much sums up the game.

Also, apologies for being bad at the subject line.

by HARRYP09 on Jul 24, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe RRS didn't have his command back after all

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Before everyone goes mental, we aren't done yet.

There is a reason the 1995 season was incredible. I realize that some of you were still in daycare in 1995. My own daughter was in daycare that year. On this date in 1995 we were 8 Games Back of the Angels with a 40-41 record, we lost today in 1995 4-6 to the Brewers. It didn’t look good back then (look it up, because you may need that in late August/early September). That year the Angels didn’t have their magic . I can only hope that it runs out on them this year. But in any case, there’s a lot of baseball left to be played.

by Sinking Away on Jul 24, 2009 10:26 PM PDT reply actions

1995 was the exception, not the rule.

I think everyone here would love a repeat of 1995 and it would be awesome and I’m rooting for it. Even if we do end up selling I’ll be rooting for us to make a run, but the odds are small and in the end it’s very unlikely that we make the playoffs.

by MFAN on Jul 24, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions

To quote a great poem

Will we listen to Pecota or will we refuse to lose?

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by gregrabble on Jul 24, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions

I see you and raise you a FUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCKFUCK

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by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 24, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions

That was the first year I got into the M's.

And while it’s nice to think about 95, or even the 07 Rockies, chances of that happening are pretty slim. Sorry to be such a downer but 95 was a long time ago. As was 2001.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
P.S. Fuck the Angels!

by Hopefulmsfan on Jul 24, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions

On this date in 1995

Ken Griffey Jr was about two weeks from coming off the DL, the team had outscored their opponents on the season, and some guy named Randy Johnson was taking the hill the next day.

This is not 1995.

by davidcameron on Jul 24, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs

Well, a pretty good lefty is pitching tomorrow.

But I know your point.

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Jul 24, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions

True, this isn't 1995.

I’m more hopeful than you. I’ve love’d you from afar for the past 3 years. I would beg you for a autograph if I knew what you looked liked and I actually cared about autographs. You are instramental (to building the right team for the M’s) without actually building the team. I read USSM daily and I guess Z and Wak do to. You have provided them some very good guidance. Dave, you are and should be a bigger part of MLB, ( I will hesitate to say, apply yourself, since you’ve got all that other stuff going on). Thank you for sharing your brilliant input with regular people.
Maybe we can still make this interesting. There’s quite a bit of season left and no reason to think that we can’t.

by Sinking Away on Jul 24, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Not to be a jerk, but the vast majority of us are aware of what happened in 1995 and the vast majority of us also realize that it was incredibly improbable.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 24, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions

It also helped that we had three hall of famers plus Jay Buhner

by Poochie on Jul 24, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Let's not forget Joey Cora. He was the shit.

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by gregrabble on Jul 24, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Potentially 4

Tino wasn’t terrible that year either.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions

But this year's team has 2 potential HOF in Ichiro and Felix.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Calling Felix a potential HOF is extremely premature

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't you rain on MY parade!

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
P.S. Fuck the Angels!

by Hopefulmsfan on Jul 24, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Damn, I just checked Randy's stat in 95:

18-2, 2.48 ERA, 214.1 IP, 159 H, 294K/65BB. Damn, that’s vastly better than Felix this year.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions

In the Kingdome, too...

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jul 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Which probably was a good place for him to pitch because he faced lefties something like 9% of the time

by Poochie on Jul 24, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Wow.

Fuck the Angels!

by JMKaustin on Jul 24, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions

2.08 FIP. 12.35 K/9, 4.52 K/BB

One of the more dominant seasons in recent history. Felix is coming into his own this year and that’s awesome and a half, but he is nowhere near Randy ’95.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions

Felix has a better ERA.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
P.S. Fuck the Angels!

by Hopefulmsfan on Jul 24, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions

WTF?

Randy averaged 7+ IP per start, averaged 12.36K per 9 innings. gave up 0.7H per inning pitch. Nobody in today’s game approached his dominance in 1995.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Dude, I'm kidding.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
P.S. Fuck the Angels!

by Hopefulmsfan on Jul 24, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Here is some good stuff about Felix and where his career stands to date

If the date were last September. But it’s not. It’s 1995? This is getting confusing, but here read this anyway. Don’t worry about Felix/USSM. Also don’t forget Randy is left handed, was 6’10, had a mullet, and he still has a face like five miles of bad road. And I say ‘was’ 6’10" because he no longer has cartilage in his knees so his head is now closer to the ground.

by Kermit. on Jul 24, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't even know how good our defense was that year

I remember the defensive reputations of players, but knowing what I know now, they very well could have been horrible.

Oh and Felix has Safeco while Randy had the Kingdome.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions

That's exactly the point, Safeco vs. Kingdom.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, defense also plays a role.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I missed it, what's the point?

by Kermit. on Jul 24, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Randy pitched in Kingdom and still put up out-worldly number in 1995.

Felix had the comfort of Safeco field, so I have to look at something like FIP to see how much better Randy really is.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd argue that Felix pitches in Kingdom.

Also the Kingdome was a pitcher’s park in 1995.

by Mariner John on Jul 24, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Never mind. Park effects confused me.

It was closer to neutral than to Coors though

by Mariner John on Jul 24, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, one difference is Randy was 32 in 1995, and Felix is 23 this year.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions

32 is 23 backwards.

It’s a sign.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
P.S. Fuck the Angels!

by Hopefulmsfan on Jul 24, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

I just realized

Griffey was on the Mariners in 1995, and he’s also on the Mariners now! Playoffs!

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, Grif missed a lot of games in 1995, if I remembered correctly.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions

And he sucks in 2009, if I remember correctly.

by MFAN on Jul 24, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions

But we have a CF in 2009 who doesn't suck. But he's still no 1995 Griffey though.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions

You keep making comments and then immediately cancelling them out

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by gregrabble on Jul 24, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions

I didn't bring up we have Griffey in both 95 and 2009.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions

1995 DOESN'T MATTER.

FOR FUCK’S SAKE.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Jul 24, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Mine was a joke making fun of this very point

just for the record.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions

I am glad of this fact.

It always seems to me that M’s fans are living in the past.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Jul 24, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions

1995 was quite a thing to witness

and it was a team filled with fan favorites and some of the biggest stars in the game. I even like reliving it sometimes, but I can’t stand the obsession by the fans and by the organization. I can’t wait until we win a WS so we have a new season to talk about for 15 years.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Most of the casual fans are

Most of the more serious fans like the ones that hang out here are living in the present.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jul 25, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions

Vastly

by Poochie on Jul 24, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Few pitchers ever were better than mid-90's Johnson

And this isn’t even the point. We can now say Johnson is a HOFer because he’s won 300 games and struck out 4000. Felix hasn’t even had a full Cy Young calibur season.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Next year we get to say 5000

by Poochie on Jul 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions

We got to watch the three best players at the three most important positions of their generation for significant portions of their peak play for the Mariners.

That is so fucking cool.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 25, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions

Just you wait.

In 2040, the Cy Young award will be renamed the Felix Hernandez award.

by I Lick Squirrels on Jul 24, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I will look like such a fool.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions

AROD was just coming up and the 25th man on the team. I don't think you could count him as a

major contributor that year, unless you think Edgar will make it to the Hall.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions

I think he should

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by gregrabble on Jul 24, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Wait, I am sorry. I forgot AROD roid up and is unlikely to make it to the HOF.

So this year’s team will likely have the same number of HOF as the 95 team, which is 2.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions

I think you missed the point.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 24, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions

That whole Angels collapse thing, and all.

by msb on Jul 24, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions

wasn't there a link posted a while ago

analyzing late season collapses, and the 1995 collapse was the most statistically improbable, ever?

by Will Kier on Jul 24, 2009 10:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes

by Poochie on Jul 24, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions

I think THT took a look at this sometime in the 07-08 offseason

because the 2007 Mets collapse was the second-worst of all time. Can’t find that article now, but here is a similar article from BP written in September 2007. Yep, 1995 California Angels at #1. Something a lot of people forget about that season is that all the comeback wins the M’s had would have been for naught if not for the Angels going into an absolute death spiral. But, you know, “Refuse to Lose” is catchier.

by pmc47 on Jul 25, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions

I wasn't aroung for the '95 season

or the 2001 sesaon.

I’m pretty sure that neither season has anything to do with this year so I don’t see what the fucking point it is in talking about them.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Jul 24, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

The frigging Mets were leading by 7 games with 17 to play in 2007

and proceed to lose the AL East title to the Phillies in the last day. So what is 6.5 games with 66 to play?

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions

uh

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/7/24/962277/51-45-chart#18664940

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 24, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions

The worst part of all of this is we have been actually playing really good baseball (minus tonight).

This chart is so depressing.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
P.S. Fuck the Angels!

by Hopefulmsfan on Jul 24, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions

We were something like 31-19 in the last 50 games, and we still lost 3.5 games to the Angels in that

I don’t think we could’ve played any better than .620 in that tough stretch. But it’s still not good enough. We are pretty much done.

by brian_sun on Jul 24, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Actually exactly like 31-19.

FUCK THE ANGELS!!!

by SethGrandpa on Jul 24, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions

8-4 in the last 12 games and we've lost 2.5 games in the standings.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
P.S. Fuck the Angels!

by Hopefulmsfan on Jul 24, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions

This is the worst part

I’ve endured 100-loss seasons. And 93 win seasons where we didn’t make the playoffs. And 2007.

Somehow this is just the worst for me. Maybe I just like this team more than the ones in the past. Maybe it’s just been so long since we’ve had a team legitimately this good, or one that has been winning. Or maybe I just hate the Angels and their performance as of late has made it all the more aggravating. But it’s the most disappointed I’ve been outside of being knocked out of the playoffs.

FUCK THE ANGELS!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 24, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions

I know that emotions and fandom are relative and this is in no way a passing of judgement

but this seems crazy to me because I am so far on the opposite end of the spectrum. It’s not that I’m not pissed, believe me, but being this respectable this late in the game and not feeling like this will be our only chance to compete for the next billion years is a blast for me.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 24, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions