OT 7/2/05-- Flag Waving, Long Weekend, 4th of July Holiday edition
Ahhhhh, a long weekend, complete with baseball.
Time for rambling thoughts, happy incoherence and some patriotic quotes from Benjamin Franklin, Founding Father:
“Without continual growth and progress, such words as improvement, achievement, and success have no meaning.”
“He that is good for making excuses is seldom good for anything else.”
“To lengthen thy life, lessen thy meals.”
“Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy.”
Topics for discussion:
Fourth of July traditions?
Worst fireworks? (gotta be snakes, right?)
New & different picnic food?
Beer or wine?
Flag-waving (in a good or bad way) movies?
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1. Drinking. Blowing stuff up. When I was a teenager we used to have bottle rocket wars, but I can’t call that a tradition any more because I haven’t done that in years.
2. Snakes, and as I get older I find that sparklers are pretty pointless too. But they are shiny, so there’s that.
3. It’s a picnic. No need to mess with the classics. I can do without potato salad, though, I’ll swap in a pasta salad or something.
4. Either/or – a nice dry white is good with a picnic but nothing beats a good cold beer.
5. Not sure if this is asking for a list or a yea/nay. Generally don’t seek them out, but don’t hate them.
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re: 2
The point of sparklers is to make sparkler bombs?
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by JY on Jul 2, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Oooh good point.
Hadn’t thought of that one – I only got as far as pondering dipping them in gasoline before lighting them and realizing that was probably a bad idea.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
They are best used on produce.
Preferably of the melon variety.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Jul 2, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Kara created a BLT salad for my birthday that is amazing.
She is now required to make it for any BBQ.
This sounds interesting to me too...
Give me the recipe on FB.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
I may have spoken too soon on this one.
She is asking for payment from me to release the recipe. I’ll see what I can do for you all.
Come on.....
Butt scratcher?
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Roman candle wars were the best
Two garbage can lids for shields, a few packages of bottle rockets, and plenty of booze = awesome.
I shot my friend in the FACE once, singed off part of his eyebrow.
Lake City makes nat'l headlines
So, I’ve been out of town, but apparently there’s some douche from Lake City by the name of Benjamin Schroeter who is whining about fireworks at Gasworks Park.
Well, he caught the attention of The Colbert Report.
The points seem possibly valid, but still, goddamn man, come off it.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
Yep.
No Elliot Bay fireworks this year and I would not be surprised to see Lake Union gone in five years.
Ivars decided that the huge amount of money it takes to put on the show might be better used going to NW Harvest...
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
While I understand the impulse
I wish they hadn’t decided that this would be the year to discontinue.
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
You can help the homeless any day of the year.
But fireworks, you only really have an excuse to use twice, maybe three times.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Jul 2, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
There's no Fort Vancouver fireworks down here either
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Not surprised
There have been no fireworks in Kirkland for years now, and I’m pretty sure Bothell and Kenmore shut down too.
People need to get the fuck over themselves and admit that shit blowing up is great. I won’t pretend it’s high art or anything, but it’s enjoyable on the whole and the dangers inherent to it are exaggerated by people that don’t know what they’re doing.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Jul 2, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
NOT SURPRISED?
The day they stop the Tacoma display is the day I finally turn violent.
Still, from N. Tacoma, I could actually see the Elliot Bay display, and now I guess I wont. Boooo!
I'm not surprised because I have noticed the alarming trend of people turning into gigantic pussies.
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by JY on Jul 2, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Fine.
I live in a social bubble with other alarmingly poor students, so the perception that other people have more money remains.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Jul 2, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
People may have money, cities do not
at least not right now.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Schools do not either.
I make the connection easier by thinking of it those terms.
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by JY on Jul 2, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to be really bummed when Lake Union's show ends.
My office is right on the waterfront. I’ve been watching the show from the roof every year since I was hired.
Lawsuit filed in August: okay.
Lawsuit filed in late June: you are a massive douche.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Random squib from my childhood.... The young rebels.
ABC’s 1971 attempt to link groovy young rebellious youth with the Revolutionary War.
Rick Ely (had to be a Tiger Beat dreamboat) as the fiery American youth, Alex Henteloff as the brainy would-be Ben Franklin type, Hilarie Thompson as the Obligatory Love Interest and (the only reason to watch) Louis Gossett, Jr. as the former slave, now blacksmith.
I think it lasted all of half a season.
Speaking of Ben Franklin.
I was watching the History Channel the other night and they were talking about all the human bones found underneath his home. Apparently he was doing massive amounts of illegal dissection and other studies on dead bodies that he purchased from grave robbers. He then would hide the remains under his house so he would not get in trouble.
Wasn't there an anatomy school that met for a time at the house?
The daughter of the house he rented in London later married Wm Hewson, a doctor who was studying medicine (and anatomy) at the time Franklin lived there…
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, apparently he was running an anatomy school there,
but they did it at night to stay out of the eyes of the police according to this story. Who knows how much they are making up though just to sound interesting.
I find this fascinating.
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
More .... interesting treatments of the Revolution-- 1776, the musical.
Pretty accurate play & film about the writing of the Declaration, aside from the singing and dancing. Swell cast and pretty good dialogue by former history prof Sherman Edwards:
Dr. Benjamin Franklin: Don’t worry, John. The history books will clean it up.
John Adams: It doesn’t matter. I won’t be in the history books anyway, only you. Franklin did this and Franklin did that and Franklin did some other damn thing. Franklin smote the ground and out sprang George Washington, fully grown and on his horse. Franklin then electrified him with his miraculous lightning rod and the three of them- Farnklin, Washington, and the horse- conducted the entire revolution by themselves.
[pause]
Dr. Benjamin Franklin: I like it.
ruh rohs
I wonder if this sort of thing is going to start becoming common for non-massive-media-market teams.
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I just wonder if it's going to start becoming common at Mr. Hicks' other teams.
Mr. Gerrard, please accept this IOU featuring beautifully detailed embossing. The amount is equal to your regular paycheck.
I think he's actually pouring all his money into LFC at this point
seems like he’s trying to divest himself of all his American sports interests.
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He's got about $54.50 in his pocket and another $4,97 in his couch cushions
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Tom Hicks reportedly had to borrow ~$15 mil from MLB to make payroll
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Crazy. Lucky he had a credit line.
Many businesses have had those pulled or greatly reduced.
It is the single biggest reason businesses are not spending much these days. I love how banks create a problem and then punish there customers for their own poor management.
So how long until Mark Cuban buys the Rangers?
Or maybe even Bush (no political leanings intended, just mentioning him because he was part of ownership before and has plenty of money).
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
I thought the company line was "they picked a different ownership option".
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
That was indeed the company line
and will be again if Cuban tries to buy into another team.
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I really, really despise this weekend.
The only tradition my family ever had was going to the Lumberjack Breakfast in Albany. But for most of my formative years I was not in town for the 4th, so it’s tough to make a tradition. I would love to have just a laid back BBQ, but I hate jamming up with the masses to watch some things explode in the sky considering it is boring after the first two pretty things.
As for this year, though, I am ready for Seattle International Beer Festival and the celebration of Cascadia. I guess that makes me pro-beer.
And picnic food, new and different? All I say is nay on the flag cake.
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions
I can sympathize.
My family didn’t have any set traditions for it either. Sometimes my dad would get some fireworks of questionable legality from people he knew, or we’d visit neighbors who, being in a rural area, had the higher end stuff and knew how to use them, or maybe relatives would be in town and we’d head to Gas Works.
My mother was never big on fireworks in general. Cobras, roman candles, those things that spin around on the ground and make colored flower shapes, that was it.
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by JY on Jul 2, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
We never even blew stuff up
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions
You're anti-American.
I fucking hate you Mariners
I don't know if I can sympathize anymore.
Sorry NOLA :(
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by JY on Jul 2, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
We also don't drink at family get togethers.
And they wonder why I make excuses.
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Now I'm really sorry.
My mom’s side of the family is boring as all hell but at least they have the sense to make a bee line for the gin as soon as they take their shoes off.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Jul 2, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
My extended family gatherings are alcohol free as well.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Mine used to be until I got old enough to change that silly habit.
Now many of my younger family members no longer fear bringing alcohol.
My younger family members are worse, damn it.
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you like some lessons on how to corrupt people?
My Dad says he has never met anyone with proselytizing skills like mine for the bad.
Ground Bloom Flowers.
My Mom’s favorite too.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
It was never big for us, either
snakes & sparklers in the street, and a small but tasteful collections of pinwheels that my dad would set off (keep away now!) in the side yard. It was one of the few time during the year the BBQ came out of the garage.
10 minutes south of Seattle is a little haunt I like to call unincorporated King County.
Where I live, things get to blow up.
Unincorporate areas are the best
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jul 3, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Go up to Snohomish County
Its legal up here in Bothell!
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by Fin on Jul 2, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
If you're willing to drive for ~20 minutes north on I-5 to do it, unincorported Edmonds is one of the closest places where it is legal I think.
Not regular Edmonds or Lynnwood, but the Edmonds that’s just south of Everett and not really anywhere near the city center. I grew up there and my area was always the exception to the no-fireworks rule.
Hello msb (and others)!
1: the 4th of July was always a bigger holiday for my family than Christmas or Thanksgiving. We never had any family in the area, so the trad. ‘family’ holidays were always weird, either because we would hang out with non-family, or because it was just the three of us celebrating. The 4th of July isn’t necessarily supposed to be about family, so it was much easier to enjoy having lots of people over for food and drinks.
We always hosted, and every year, it features grilled oysters from Hood Canal. I’m not a big oyster guy myself, but people love the grilled oyster thing.
2: Snakes, those whistling things (I see Black Cat is selling one this year that’s called Pure Torture. The point of this thing that’s made of gunpowder is that it makes loud, annoying noises and doesn’t blow up. I… it’s like making a sandwich that really, really smells bad. Why? That’s not what a sandwich is FOR, and who’s paying money to smell something nasty? In sandwich form? What?), pop-its.
3: Chile Colorado. Great on its own, with rice, with tortillas, whatever. Why not.
4: Both, of course. Cold beer on the 4th of July is just right, and I’ll have a few. But I may have a cab with grilled meat for dinner, and then a gin and tonic for the fireworks as if to say, “No hard feelings, England.”
5: I don’t really know.
RE: whistling things
If you throw them in sewage pipes it sounds like somebody being strangled and drowned.
I knew I could count on you for taking something that seemed so worthless and making it slighlty less worthless.
I never liked whistling bottle rockets (because they just give your target advance warning!), but they were so awesome to fire under water. The plastic shell meant they’d still work, and on a dark night, it was really cool to see the snaking lines of green and little muffled explosions under a glassy lake/puget sound inlet.
ALl this that I missed as a kid
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
We always had the big fireworks (and related injuries).
A close family friend was a long-haul trucker, and he’d bring fireworks back from all the reservations across the country. It was insane, and amazing that nobody was SERIOUSLY injured.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Take three blocks of the whistling ones (saturn 5 is what they are called) put them on on piece of wood in the ship of a "T"
Voila! A modern day crossbow! Think of how easy it would have been to cleanse Nottingham Forest with this!
Ah, saturns.
The problem with those is that they didn’t fire straight. You need to fashion a little barrel for ‘em so they don’t do that stupid fly-anywhere-but-ahead crap. Otherwise Nottingham Forest would remain infested with evil.
RE: RE: Whistling things
If you pinch them off, they go boom
Growing up, on the 4th of July
we had a block-wide, all-day waterfight. There were a handful of families with kids on my street, and so all the boys and their dads would run around all day. There would be kiddie pools for dunking victims into, buckets full of water balloons, super soakers and PVC pipe guns. At some point, somebody’s mom would make the mistake of leaving the house and they would be dunked into the kiddie pool.
After that, we all got together for a barbecue and lit off all of our pooled fireworks.
angels fan in seattle
We had the same kind of thing in our neighborhood growing up.
There doesn’t seem to be nearly as much social capital in circulation as there used to be. sniff
by Manzanillos Cup on Jul 2, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
We didn't do much as a street on the 4th (aside from watching each other set off daytime stuff)
but the rest of the year we had a pretty elaborate version of hide-and-seek/kick-the-can/tag to be played as the dusk moved into dark, across a 6 yard radius.
That sounds fun!
Of course as a stingy grown up, I read that all the first thing I thought was “damn, that’s one expensive water bill”
Fuck you all, we'll be back and when we arrive the first thing we'll do is dunk a huge set of destructive hairy balls into the Boston area in a "tea"bagging fashion for supreme irony.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jul 2, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And Guy Fawkes Day.
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by JY on Jul 2, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I was referring more ot the premise behind it.
I don’t know of any other country that celebrates someone who tried to blow up Parliament.
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by JY on Jul 2, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
No, they celebrate his torture, confession and execution.
It’s pretty fucking macabre.
I ought to do more research on these things before I start talking.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Jul 2, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
He's transcended athletics
and started to become Least Favorite Human. Let us not forget that his ex-wife was only back in his house because he asked her to move back in to help with the kids after his last go-round with the law.
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And the fucking bat twirl he used to do after every pitch!
Execute that motherfucker!
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 2, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm.
from Drayer: “Another possibility is there could be a trade made between now and then. Jack Z has two members of his brain trust in Tom McNamara and Carmen Fusco on this trip and there have been a lot of meetings, conversations and phone calls. The atmosphere is such that I get the feeling they would like to make a deal sooner rather than later. An interesting road trip could get even more interesting.”
This year
I’m going to a friend’s house in Bremerton. They live above the naval base and you can see the Bremerton, Silverdale, Tacoma, and Port Orchard displays from their deck, plus whatever else is going on in the neighborhood, which, past experience has demonstrated, is a LOT. Lots of food, lots of drink, lots of baseball, and as little else as possible.
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I'm staying home this year.
This summer has been too busy, and I’m taking the three-day weekend to relax.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
The last , oh, 5-6 years, I've taken my dad to a brass band concert on the 4th
but this year with the heat, his age, and the logistics of getting to this year’s location, I think we are staying home
We've always gone to our friend's house in Mukilteo that has a view of the Everett display,
but they’re not having a party this year, so I’m planting my butt at home.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Oh, make no mistake
After a margarita, some beer, a rum and coke, and a little Bailey’s, I’m pretty relaxed. (All of this was consumed over the past 6 hours, so I’m not hosed, just in the mood for a nap.)
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Answers:
I don’t have any traditions for the fourth. I think when I was little my dad may have put hot dogs on the barbecue, but that’s about it. As a grown up I don’t even do that. I’d like to, but I’m lazy.
I’m fireworks ignorant! I like the big ones…. the twinkly big ones in the sky. As far as little ones go, I have absolutely no experience with that.
Pioneer Woman has some good looking picnic food. I practically worship her.
Beer or wine? I don’t know. Beer usually, but I like Lambrusco and Cava a whooollllle lot.
I don’t know nothin bout no flag waving movies!
Note on Pioneer Woman's cake:
I’ve made her strawberry shortcake cake for the last 3 parties I’ve gone to. It is so good, SO GOOD, that people getting teary eyed is not an unusual reaction.
"I don’t know nothin bout no flag waving movies!"
I haven’t looked, but I bet TNT or USA will air Independence Day.
Good morning.
In less than an hour, aircraft from here will join others from around the world. And you will be launching the largest aerial battle in this history of mankind. Mankind — that word should have new meaning for all of us today. We can’t be consumed by our petty differences anymore. We will be united in our common interests. Perhaps its fate that today is the 4th of July, and you will once again be fighting for our freedom, not from tyranny, oppression, or persecution — but from annihilation. We’re fighting for our right to live, to exist. And should we win the day, the 4th of July will no longer be known as an American holiday, but as the day when the world declared in one voice:
“We will not go quietly into the night!
We will not vanish without a fight!
We’re going to live on!
We’re going to survive!”
Today, we celebrate our Independence Day!
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by Eyebrows on Jul 2, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Wait, wouldn't you want to sit down?
Or is he proudly displaying his….“affection” ?
angels fan in seattle
Ewwww. Seriously, can't we ever have a sub-thread that doesn't turn into an 'affection' joke?
(sarcasm)
That's no joke son
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Outside of John Wayne watching Henry Fonda ride off to his death against the Apaches?
One of the all-time greatest American acting performances of all time!
Whoa! I was thinking of an earlier J.W. movie.
Excellent, John Wayne/Ford movies from that era are terrific
Oh, I meant the Wagon Master movie.
Until I looked it up I was thinking of The Big Trail
Another fine one.
Next time you watch it, count how many actors feel compelled to touch John Wayne in it.
It could be a drinking game.
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll keep an eye on that, I love his early ones for the cheese.
He ALWAYS exited the door in a rush, looked to his left very dramatically, then ran to his right with that loping stride and spurs jingling. I love that kind of stuff, it’s goofy as hell
If you like westerns, the Hi-Lo Country was pretty good.
I don’t believe it garnered much notice, but I recommend it to all my friends. Here’s a decent review.
I pretty much have that memorized
Say what you will about the movie, but that is an inspirational speech that will be referenced for years to come
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I'm not sure I understand this.
They flipped his head over? Um.. So?
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Chin, facial hair all remain as they were.
James Earl Jones doesn’t illustrate this very well, but in the photo above the hair on top is his beard and his normal hair is on the bottom. It’s more striking for those without facial hair. There’s a pretty good one of GWB in the link, but I didn’t post that because [politics].
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That makes more sense!
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
All I can think of is the weird moment in For those who think young
with Bob Denver buried in the sand— just his goateed chin sticking out, with a little upside-down face drawn on it, singing.
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
This is thoroughly entertaining.
It’s the new manbabies.
by Manzanillos Cup on Jul 2, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
So I am considering going to see Dave Matthews Band at the Gorge this year.
Which are the best days to go? I heard Friday is where he plays all his popular music.
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YAY!
Jungles of Guam! 14th and Jefferson!
Wherever two or more are gathered in their name, THE GAS HUFFER CHAMBER IS AMONGST THEM.
Salute the men of ITS they never buckle under stress!
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
The best days to go are the days that Dave Matthews are not playing
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
They are the Grateful Dead of douchebags.
(Note to Fin: I do not think you are a douchebag. But many DMB fans are.)
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
At my bachelor party my cousin made the mistake of trying to defend DMB
his bigger mistake was doing it at the very beginning of the weekend so we were able to give him nonstop shit about it all weekend.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think they're God,
but some of their songs are okay.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
And now I've got Ants Marching running through my head.
They can all sound quite similar, but then again so can CCR or rap or Celine Dion or demons from hell (Canada) screeching for eternity…
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Please be less redundant. There's no need to waste all of our time.
Celine Dion or demons from hell (Canada) screeching for eternity…
I apologize.
I thought of Celine Dion and became frightened.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Arguably the best American rock band of all tme.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Just noticed this conversation.
Aaron is correct; not only is CCR incredible, but they are additionally the absolute best band to listen to on hot summer days.
I think I have to agree with this.
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by Fin on Jul 2, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
This list is total bullshit
Bruce Springsteen counts as a band? OK, but he’s number fifteen? Bruce Springsteen has had way more critical and commercial success than Pearl Jam and has been recording and touring for twice as long.
I didn't agree with the whole list.
I just agreed that Pearl Jam is the best American band. Maybe the list is quality over quantity.
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by Fin on Jul 2, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Not knocking CCR (I love them),
but you can take any band, and many of their songs will sound similar.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Bands tend to have a unique sound...most of their songs sound similar.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Take U2...they all sound the same to me.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Most of the individual band's songs sound the same.
i.e. In the Name of Love and Vertigo.
I fucking hate you Mariners
And twice on Sundays.
I fucking hate you Mariners
It's fine if you don't like them
“All their songs sound the same” seems more like a hasty dismissal as opposed to a legitimate reason for criticism
'All' was too specific...I'll stick to my second statement about 'most'
Or I could just say, “U2 is faggy” and be done with it.
I fucking hate you Mariners
This is my problem
And again, Fin, this is no slam on you – but I just find all of DMB’s music to be generic, unchallenging, and bland.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I've been to six DMB shows...
And now I can’t handle most of it.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I also saw Boys II Men
Tastes change.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
When he still lived in Wallingford a bunch of people I worked with lived a few houses away.
They had a party one night and after many beers decided to go pay him a visit.
He put his house up for sale a week later.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Dave Matthews used to live here?
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Still does I believe
but on Mercer Island or in Woodinville or something like that. At least part of the year.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh.
Never knew he was from around here.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
I don't think he's a native but he's lived in the area for a good long while
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
At least he picked a good place to live.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
I've watched exactly four movies in local theaters in the last 12 months, he's been there every time.
Kind of weird coincidence.
He came to the Metro at least three times a week when I worked there.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Also a recent Dina Martina performance.
At least at Dina Martina no one made any ruckus about it, at the theater everyone whispers and points. With everyone doing it, it’s pretty obvious. He’s also been with the same 2 people on every occasion. It’s just strange since I don’t go out much anymore.
Duff McKagan goes to the Metro all the time.
And Dale Chihuly. I fucking hate Dale Chihuly.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I mean what's with all the fucking melted glass?
Get some talent, asshole!
He doesn't even blow the glass!
He “conceives” of the art and pays people peanuts to do it for him!
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
His art hangs all over my alma mater
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Also ran into him at the Ballard movie theater, he cut the line.
While making small talk with the girl at the window, she said he was always a complete prick.
Chihuly that is.
Someone mentioned McKagan grew up or had family in Wallingford, I don’t know if that’s true.
It is!
He was the drummer for the Fastbacks for a few months when he was in HS.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
One of the funniest things I ever saw at the Crocodile
was at the Fastbacks’ 15th anniversary show in…whatever year that was in the late 90’s. They put out a public call for everyone who had ever drummed for the Fastbacks to show up and play at least a song that night. About 15 min into the show, this guy with a big shag haircut, pirate shirt, leather pants, boots, and a supermodel girlfriend strolls in like he owns the place. He looked completely out of place in a show full of people wearing t-shirts and jeans. That was the first time I’d ever seen Duff McKagan in person.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He still dresses that way!
And his girlfriend looks so amazingly out of place in Seattle it’s not even funny.
He is an amazingly kind and funny guy, based on my limited experience with him.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I've heard nothing but good things about him
it was just so hysterically funny – even Kurt Bloch, after they finished a song, said something like “OOOOH LOOK there’s a rock star in the house!” and wouldn’t stop giving him shit until he got up on stage. It was awesome.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
My friends and I used to joke that FBX were working their way through the white pages
as far as drummers went and that everyone in Seattle would eventually have a chance to drum for them. Sadly that never came to pass.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I had a friend in HS that made a Fastbacks family tree.
That thing was incredible.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet.
I don’t suppose you still have a copy? That would be pretty epic.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
He's totally stalking you
You just think it’s coincidence. He must be good
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And lived in Charlotte. Or Charlottesville.
One of those southern cities.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't want to show off my knowledge too much.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
My friend is a fanatic.
I’m pretty indifferent. If DMB is on, it doesn’t send me running for a ledge to jump off, but I don’t own any albums or anything.
One of my friends turned into a massive DMB fan and had a shoebox filled with
burned cds of every single one of his live shows, and found them all to be unique and inspiring. I stopped talking to him.
Jeez,
I didn’t realize people hated DMB so much here. I actually like DMB, even though I am guessing its considered girly music.
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by Fin on Jul 2, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think it's girly, just bland and unimaginative
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
they're no coldplay amirite
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I am not afraid of admitting to liking something that isn't cool.
Even though to be honest, I wasn’t expecting this big of a negative reaction towards Dave Matthews here.
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by Fin on Jul 2, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I was, and I cringed for you.
I have some skeletons in my closet. I own the first Dane Cook album and don’t hate it.
Even though Dane Cook's movies are absolute garbage
I think some of his stand up jokes are good, even though other parts are just plain bad.
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I find him tolerable on CD.
When I have to watch him, he ruins his jokes. (Assuming they’re his jokes to begin with.)
I thought about going to see him live.
I am glad I didn’t though, I am guessing it probably would’ve been a major let down, compared to seeing Chris Rock doing stand up live.
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I thought Dane Cook was the bee's knees my freshman year of high school
He acts like a snake! How cool is that!!
But seriously, I don’t fault people for finding him funny, I just thing that the more you experience something the less appealing you find it, especially those things you find appealing at a young age.
Agreed.
As a college kid, I thought I had a pretty refined taste in comedy. I loved Mr. Show, The State, etc. All those weird comedians who did everything the could to avoid the lowest common denominator. But sometimes shit just makes you laugh. I don’t find Dane Cook humorous nowadays, and he’s nowhere near the top rung of comedians on my ladder, but it’s not like he’s incapable of being funny. His first album had some pretty good stuff, and maybe a few good jokes on his second album. He’s just massively overrated, and it’s to the the point where hating on Dane Cook is about as annoying as loving Dane Cook.
So, beer or wine.
That’s fine, I love a great beer – and have gotten some good recommendations just reading series previews here. But are there any other scotch drinkers out there?
I’ve got a small home bar of about 12 single malts. My current favorite (of what I have and/or can afford to drink at a bar) would be the Ardbed 1990 “Airigh Nam Beist”. Delicious, peaty, floral. Absolutely fantastic whisky.
Anyone?
I love scotch but very seldom buy liquor to keep at home.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I was gifted some Tullamore
It is about to be opened…
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Like, straight up?
I love the odd gin & tonic, but there’s not that much I can think to do with gin.
Gin rickey!
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually I want to try a Sloe Gin Fizz
But I’m not sure where [in Seattle] they can make one since it has a bunch of weird ingredients.
Maybe Zig Zag or some modern downtown bar.
I gather it is hard to find real English sloe gin
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
My in-laws make it for me. Yay!
Of course, it comes out more like a cordial, but you can serve it with Pimms and you’re basically English at that point.
only if you headbutt someone after drinking too much of it
LAZY NATIONAL STEREOTYPE AHOY
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
And you gotsa knock out half of yer teeth before you drink any!
Amirite? Because their teeth suck! So if you wanted to go all the way, you would make YOUR teeth shitty. Then you would be more like them.
There are four varieties!
Winter Pimms /= summer Pimms.
Fascinating.
Did you find it? Winter = brandy based, summer = gin based.
And I guess they’re down to 2 varieties, and there used to be 6, not 4. Huh.
Right after Bedard.
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by Eyebrows on Jul 2, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and, um, I posted the difference above.
So focus on Bedard instead.
Maybe what I meant was "taste the difference", which is actually what I plan to do.
My brain is frazzled.
YES, of course. I'm frazzling over here.
All I have right now is the winter cup (#3 cup), which is too bad. Tomorrow seems made for an original #1 cup.
The ingredients of a sloe gin fizz
Sloe gin
Gin
Simple syrup
lemon juice
soda water
Any half-decent bar will have all these ingredients.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I bet ZigZag does as I heard they have interesting gins.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Nor have I and I begrudge no one that enjoys them but I can say with a fair bit of certainty that it is not my scene.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
My friends used to live very close, and I rather enjoyed sitting outside and partaking of their
fabulous gin selection.
It’s not my scene either, but I get sick to death of my scene every once in a while.
I can certainly identify with the last part of your comment.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah. Though I'm not sure I have a scene anymore.
Playing records and drinking scotch in my basement is dangerously close to blogger self-parody, but it’s MY basement god damnit, not my mom’s.
Anyway, and I mean this without judgment or malice in any way, but why exactly is the zig zag so unappealing to you? I’m proudly slovenly, but you… you seem to like the idea of people wearing fancy city clothes and the like, if not the execution. Is it just that you don’t want to hang out with ad execs and lawyers in a bar, you don’t want to go to a place with $20 cocktails? It doesn’t seem like your scene, but with your love of Vanity Fair-style fashion, I don’t know.
I picture you on the steps above the place, plotting to gas the inhabitants, then stealing all of the clothes and putting them on your friends.
Now now now, I'm not into high fashion or yuppiedom in any way.
Although I do read Vanity Fair. And you’re not fooling anyone with this “proudly slovenly” nonsense either.
Anyways, in general I like my bars divey, beery or classy but unpretentious. I adore the People’s Pun, for example, because you can go there before a fancy night out without batting anyone batting an eyelash, order a well made cocktail or nice scotch and come back the next night in jeans and a t-shirt and indulge in a long night of downing beers and being a no-account.
So yes, it is most certainly an issue of the folks that places like ZigZag tend to cater to. There is no reason I shouldn’t like Taphouse, for example; good service, well thought out selection, tons of taps. But I loathe it with every fiber of my being because of the clientele and the environment they create. And this isn’t a value judgment in any way; I’m not saying that people that go to Taphouse or ZigZag are bad people or even the kinds of people I wouldn’t hang out with, but they’re not the kinds of people I enjoy being around in large numbers.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a friend who got out of the bar business
because he wanted his place to have a certain feel akin to what you like but it became a yuppie bar and he hated going to work even though he was raking in the cash.
It happens. I'd imagine it would really hurt if it was your bar.
But honestly, any bar has the power to change that quickly through the power of the juke box. Loud, abrasive music = no yuppies.
Got it.
I suppose I don’t mind associating (loosely) with the bad crowd in exchange for something noteworthy. Maybe that’s because until recently in T-town, you didn’t have a choice, and maybe it’s just the fact that almost none of my friends likes quite the same kind of place I do. But I’m not going to LET them take a great bar away from me just because they’re more numerous. Sure, they can bring a different atmosphere, but I don’t go to Zig Zag for the atmosphere, I go because they have some booze that I want.
I’ve never actually been to Taphouse, and I’d like to go at least once.
The People’s Pub is remarkably awesome and I want one in Tacoma.
Taphouse isn't too terrible at certain times
especially if you’re with enough people. But I’ve been enough for one lifetime.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 2, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't it also have flower water? Or orange heather water?
Something weird that I don’t know anything about.
I don't think you're thinking of a sloe gin fizz at this point
I’ve never heard of one made with egg whites. Not that it’s not done, but that sounds like some other drink.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Good call.
Recipe. Sounds delicious.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys should try a "Hokie"
12oz Light Beer, 1 Shot of Gin and 1 shot of Sweet N Sour.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 2, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
SOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOD!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The phrase "shot of gin" is what lost me
Gin is a sipping drink, at least for me. Bad things happen when shots start going down.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry.
You mix it.
You don’t take a shot of gin.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 2, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
well then that's a whole different kettle of fish
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I really should not try that
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not kidding
Its wonderful.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 2, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
You need to use fresh lime with a splash of roses.
Roses alone is too sweet and sharp.
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I prefer it with a lime. But I can do it straight up.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 2, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Heyo!
My go-to scotch is Balvenie, and I do tend to prefer the speysides to the peatbombs. Perhaps that’s where you’re goin’, and happy travels to you if so.
I’ve enjoyed Glenlivet Nadurra a lot recently, just finished another bottle of that stuff. Glenlivet 18 as well.
A fave from a recent trip to Scotland was Old Pulteney from way up in Wick. Haven’t tried the 17, but I will next time I’m there.
Nice, Balvenie is quite tasty. The 21 year especially, mmm.
I started with Islay malts, and am now getting into more of the Highlands. Highland Park (technically not a highland, but from Orkney island) 15 is one of my favorites. Also, just discovered Cragganmore and it’s brilliant. The 12 year is inexpensive and has tons of subtle flavor.
That's what I thought.
I can’t really do many of the Islay malts, though some are quite interesting.
Had Scapa? Any good?
Scapa is actually pretty good.
Pretty light bodied but I remember liking it. I work at a scotch bar so I have the luxury of sampling pretty much everything we carry.. which is great until I realized I got so into it I dropped almost a grand at the liquor store over a 4 month period ;)
The Bookstore Bar, it's downtown.
It’s a hotel bar so we cater to old people with money (or whoeever else stays in hotels), but I actually really like the atmosphere of the place. Very laid back.
As a matter of fact....
Nah. I’m glad I can still surprise you though, Kermit. I figured you’d heard a good chunk of my stories by now.
4th of July
1. I sit in a floaty at my parents house on Lake Whatcom and watch the boat parade. I got a new floaty this year that has a cooler built into it. (So fucking stoked) Then I blow stuff up the rest of the night.
2. Piccolo Petes and Saturn Missiles
3. Nope
4. Hard A, Beer and Wine. (Tangeruay Gin, Bud Light and Pasek Passion fruit Wine)
5. Born on the 4th of July.
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Just anchor down and float in the sun.
Is the greatest feeling in the world.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 2, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They have a boat parade on Lake Whatcom?
I never knew that.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Ya for about 20 years now.
My Mom organizes it and its up to about 60 boats now.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm learning all sorts of stuff today.
My grandparents and other family members have lived in Bellingham my whole life, and I never knew about the boat parade.
"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."
Well considering theres no really good place to watch it.
And the Herald hates boats on Lake Whatcom. The don’t really advertise it. But It reaches Blodel Donavan park by about 3:15-3:30ish.
I even got on the cover of the Herald one year.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 2, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
during!
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I love Drayer so much.
(via Twitter) On the bus. Typical scene. Can hear Bedard speaking French- Batista Spanish and Washburn deer.
I love the idea that Wash speaks deer.
I liked this one too.
They’re from a bass fishing site.
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Do his t-shirts have sleeves?
If so, you’ve nothing to worry about just yet. If not…
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
And he's fishing!
You wouldn’t want to get the good pants all covered in fish guts.
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
That we know of.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
No deer for a month.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 2, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe Tango is busy with something else.
(Smile)
by Manzanillos Cup on Jul 2, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions
ur mom lol
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 2, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone know how to reveal comments when editing in Word
But not reveal the rest of the markup (ie, no deleted sentences, no highlights of changed words)?
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 2, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions
I don't know that you can
and that’s one of the main reasons I hate using track changes in Word.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Word blows goats, for sure.
but it’s so insinuated into office culture now it ain’t going away, sadly.
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by pdb on Jul 2, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
In Word 2007
Under the “Review” tab, click the drop-down arrow by “Show Markup”, and uncheck everything except comments.
by edgar is good on Jul 2, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
4th of July movies
The movie that 4th of July always makes me want to watch is “The Music Man”— it’s not inherently 4th-of-Julyish, but something about the small-town Americana feels right for the occasion.
Of course it is 4th of July-ish!
don’t be late for the fireworks at Madison Park!
by msb on Jul 2, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Amusing anecdote from Baker's blog
Turns out that back when the Mariners were playing the Oakland Athletics. Wakamatsu couldn’t understand why Russell Branyan was standing so far away from his bag with Jack Cust leading off first base.
Finally, he called Branyan over.
“Aren’t you going to hold the runner?’’ Wakamatsu asked.
“He has the flu,’’ Branyan replied.
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Nyquil-trance no-hitter
complete with incoherent interview, ala Doc Ellis.
Give the man 2/15, Jack
we will love him even if he strikes out 225 times next year
My fourth of Julys are spent working
I collect many hundreds of dollars in tips on this glorious day, making it nothing less than the best day of the year
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Random question
Given the situation and needs of the Mariners and Giants, what do you think of this trade from both teams’ perspectives:
Russell Branyan for Madison Bumgarner
I just noticed that the date is 7/2/05.
Was that intentional?
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Well, I am glad that was settled.
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by Fin on Jul 5, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes yes yes yes yes
I love the blue tops, when they wear them with the white pants, but that all-blue look is re-god-damned-diculous.
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They were quite literally the most appallingly ugly uniforms I have ever seen.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 4, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
They're even worse in person
They look like pajamas.
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It's where he gets his teeny tiny strength.
by msb on Jul 4, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You would think that they might save it for last, since most people would be watching for Yankees/Red Sox, and therefore get maximum viewership.
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Where the hell are my "Close Tab" buttons on the new Firefox?
I hate having to right-click the tab and select “Close Tab”. I miss the “X” on the right-hand side.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 6, 2009 7:39 AM PDT reply actions
There's a dev build of Tab Mix Plus that works with FF 3.5
If you’re not using Tab Mix Plus you should be, it’s awesome. The dev build hasn’t caused me any problems, and it’s here. If you don’t want to do that, though, you can middle-click a tab in FF 3.5 to close it.
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by pdb on Jul 6, 2009 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the tip. I can't live without a good working version of Tab Mix Plus.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 6, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm so glad I was able to find that yesterday
TMP is by far my most favorite extension, which sucks because it should all be standard features anyway
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Ctrl W
That closes the tab you are currently viewing.
They say nothing is impossible, but I do nothing all the time!
Holy shit, this season of True Blood is out-of-control awesome.
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by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jul 6, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions
One of the best dramas on TV right now no doubt
I’m just annoyed there wasn’t a new one on last night.
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by pdb on Jul 6, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I know very, very little about professional tennis
but I watched the 5th set of the Wimbledon final yesterday and the most astounding thing to me about it was that at 15-14 or whatever in the fifth, after five hours of play, Andy Roddick was still able to serve at 134 mph. I’m not even sure I could be standing up after that much top-level exertion, much less still serving at that velocity.
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Poor Andy Roddick. He played the best tennis of his life and it wasn't enough.
I’m still amazed that no coach has ever forced him to serve and volley. Yes, his baseline game has grown by leaps and bounds, but he’ll never beat the best baseliners like that.
Also, how conceited is Federer? While he’s generally polite in his interviews (although not yesterday) and emotions on the court, he
a.) filmed a commercial in which he was congratulated on his 15th Grand Slam win before playing in Wimbledon
b.) Wore shoes and a track jacket with 15 emblazoned on them.
c.) his interview in which he tried to congratulate and console Roddick was dickish.
The only real comparison today is Tiger, who is dominating a solo sport in the same way, has a similar Tiger Woods brand with Nike, and is wiping out records. He is unbelievably gracious. C’mon Rog.
I was wondering that myself about Federer
I couldn’t believe the commercial with him on the jet, and then when I saw the jacket I kinda lost a lot of respect for Federer. That seemed the height of arrogance. I’m used to it in his interviews, though – he’s given a lot of interviews in which he’s basically admitted that he thinks he’s awesome and that the game’s too easy for him. And he’s always playing with his goddamn hair.
Contrast that, as you say, with Tiger Woods – who is just as dominant but at least a little more publicly humble, especially when he interviews himself. And be honest, could you ever see Federer doing something like this?
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by pdb on Jul 6, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Eh... conceited as Serena's post-championship interview?
I think Federer has always been polite and almost boring. He’s the greatest ever in his sport, and he’s known mostly in this country as Tiger Woods’ friend, or as that other guy in shaving commercials.
Rafael Nadal is perhaps more well-known, more beloved (esp. by women), and I think many surmised had already passed Federer to be world #1. Andy Murray was certainly more beloved in the UK. And as recently as a few years ago, Federer’s dominance was seen as a threat to the game itself – that by dominating so much, he’d made the men’s game predictable and anti-climactic, and that maybe it’d be better for the game if he left. Tiger’s never had to deal with that.
I understand his desire to be a little more recognized for setting records (though he could’ve done it better). I hate cocky sports personalities more than I should, but in this one case, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.
I didn't see Serena's interview so I don't know if it was as conceited as hers
And this interview was certainly more gracious than some I’ve seen from him in the past. Federer is certainly deserving of all the accolades coming his way – but that doesn’t mean I want to hear them from his own mouth. And it seems to me that wearing shoes with “15” emblazoned on them before he won #15 was a little bit much.
Wear them to the US Open, sure, keep a running tally if you want now that you’ve set the record – but it seems like by wearing those shoes and by having the jacket in his bag, he was showing the world that his win at Wimbledon was a preordained conclusion, which really rubs me the wrong way. From any athlete, not just Federer. I always compare it to hockey – teams in the Stanley Cup finals, or the playoffs in general, will not touch the Cup until they actually win it. Is it a meaningless superstition? Sure, but it also shows that they do not minimize the achievement or the work it takes.
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I get that, and agree with most of it
But again, this is one of the biggest records in tennis, and Federer was playing the major he’s won the most times, when the defending champ wasn’t playing. Sure, it was presumptuous, and people would have a field day if he didn’t win.
In 1998, would people have flipped out if Mark McGwire had a small ‘62’ on his shoes or something? I don’t know, maybe. That too would have assumed something, and perhaps pitchers wouldn’t like it, but hey, it’s his goal.
And if you think Tiger won’t be wearing a special Nike shirt with ‘19’ on it when the time comes, you’re joking. Yes, he will wear it BEFORE winning his 19th.
I really wanted Roddick to win.
I desperately wanted Roddick to win
but only because I like to root for underdogs.
And if you think Tiger won’t be wearing a special Nike shirt with ‘19’ on it when the time comes, you’re joking.
I absolutely do think that. And that alone tells me all I need to know about where a lot of this comes from. Nike runs the sports world, in a lot of ways.
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Ugh, the Angels upcoming schedule is weak weak weak.
I’d throw in one more, but the Yankees are in there. Whoopity doo
In a site of beer people,
I’m surprised I haven’t seen this yet:
http://www.thebeermag.com/
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
At the risk of sounding like your parent
What is a “retweet”, like I’m seeing on the front page posts? I understand what Twitter is, and I do not mean nor want to get into a debate of the relative merits of Twitter, because I don’t care – I’m just curious how a “retweet” is different from a “tweet”.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
Retweet means that you take information from someone else's Twitter and post it yourself
It’s like citing a source—RT@soandso means that you are not making an original post.
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 7, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks.
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by pdb on Jul 7, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa, this is going to be fun
Did you know you can comment on Lookout Landing from your phone or PDA? SB Nation has launched mobile commenting. Check it out next time you’re at the game or bar and have something to say.
Yes, let’s get more people commenting from bars!
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 7, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions
As much as people feared and disliked real-time comments I fear and dislike mobile comments
but I’m crotchety so there’s that.
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by pdb on Jul 7, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Moon is back in Seattle!
I talked about it in a past offtop, but it’s a quiet, thrilling thinker of a sci-fi movie. Everyone should go see it.
angels fan in seattle
Late, but
I play in a softball tournament in Winthrop every 4th of july. Camp at the KOA and brings a buttload of booze and water. Good times.
Unfortunately I haven’t seen a fireworks show in several years but I would rather be playing softball in 100 degree weather.
Next year some of yous should put together a LL team to bring over there.

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