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7/11: Open Game Thread, Part 2

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I predict it will be that error that kills us.

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Ronny really does seem like a White Briefs kind of guy

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because I'm right

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Commando and in running shorts?

Be still her heart

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not cool enough

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by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

AHAHAHAHAHA

He’s saying he touched the bag first, which I’m pretty sure he did

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by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I think it should.

If a runner has to wait until the fielder touches to the ball to tag up, then until the ball hits the ground the force should still be in play.

by Wilder. on Jul 11, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get what you meant,

but I still don’t think it makes a difference. You’re not required to go back to the bag on a tag-up, it just leaves the force-out in effect at your original base. In this situation, the force was on until he touched second and once the ball dropped, he had to be tagged to record the out, as far as I would assume the rule to be

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by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah

looked like he touched the base with his right foot.

I have no idea how that works w/r/t the basepath, though

by seattlebruin on Jul 11, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's exactly what I saw happen

Shouldn’t matter whether the ball was still in the air or not, correct?

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by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think he touched the bag

The camera angle didn’t quite show it, but that would have been odd to pull up and not touch it when he was literally on top of it

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Washburn has an ERA under 3 now.

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions  

WHAT THE FUCK

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I wasn't gonna comment in the GT tonight

But fucking hell that’s worth breaking my silence over.

Fuck Anaheim.

by Eyeball Kid on Jul 11, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Alright!

And now here comes Eddie!

by Mbad on Jul 11, 2009 9:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Also note that Jeff Francoeur went 2-for-4 with 2 RBIs today.

So this is just apparently one of those days when God says “hey, fuck probability” and lets ’er rip.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Matthew, I've got no problem admitting when I'm wrong,

but I’d love to see some numbers on innings pitched (both per game and overall), opponent scores, and the like. I’m not saying he’s an ace – I’m saying he’s been one of our more dependable pitchers. How much would public opinion differ if the poor bastard actually got run support when he pitched?

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Jul 11, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Essentially this would be basing opinion off him on W-L record

which we know is meaningless – instead a metric like tRA shows that based on his batted ball profile, he’s been ~average this season. It’s just that with our great defense, his fielding dependent stats look fantastic

by seattlebruin on Jul 11, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

How is that relevant?

He has not been good. That he was better than other people is not relevant in the slightest.

by Matthew on Jul 11, 2009 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

See below in my response to Jeff.

If you have a house made of shit that happens to be standing fairly tall at the moment, why remove one of it’s walls?

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Jul 11, 2009 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because only two of the walls are shit, and a lot of the furniture inside is shit

So you swap one of the shit walls for some nice furniture and replace the wall with another shit wall that you already had

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

The fallacy is caused by failing to acknowledge the ugly fact that we just haven’t have very good or reliable starting pitching. I mean, after Felix, what have you got? A lot of bullshit, that’s what.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rob Johnson hit a HR.

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:12 PM PDT reply actions  

By the way, credit to LoneStarBall for finding this

Rule 7.08(d) Comment: Runners need not “tag up” on a foul tip. They may steal on a foul tip. If a so-called tip is not caught, it becomes an ordinary foul. Runners then return to their bases.
(e) He fails to reach the next base before a fielder tags him or the base, after he has been forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner. However, if a following runner is put out on a force play, the force is removed and the runner must be tagged to be put out. The force is removed as soon as the runner touches the base to which he is forced to advance, and if he overslides or overruns the base, the runner must be tagged to be put out. However, if the forced runner, after touching the next base, retreats for any reason towards the base he had last occupied, the force play is reinstated, and he can again be put out if the defense tags the base to which he is forced;

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 11, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Huh

well I’ll be. Guess the ump got it right

by seattlebruin on Jul 11, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

You would be stunned at how many obscure baseball rules you have no idea about.

Was at a site the other day (maybe through Tango’s blog?) that quizzed you on several scenarios, and I got at least 40% of them wrong.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well how about that

I just learned something that will likely never be applied again because who makes an idiot move like that anyway?

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOO ICHIRO.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

ICHIRIO!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 11, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Ichiro!

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions  

This game is so good it's better than Pavement's second album, that's how good it feels right now.

I’m listening to both simultaneously and I’m actually enjoying the game more.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain.

GODDAMMIT I HATE CAUGHT STEALINGS.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah,

I kinda stopped following them after they stopped sounding just like a more melodic The Fall. I guess that would be 1992

by Bhamster on Jul 11, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

FYI on Marlon Byrd Out at 2B

Rule 7.08(e) (http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/runner_7.jsp) states:

(e) He fails to reach the next base before a fielder tags him or the base, after he has been forced to advance by reason of the batter becoming a runner. However, if a following runner is put out on a force play, the force is removed and the runner must be tagged to be put out. The force is removed as soon as the runner touches the base to which he is forced to advance, and if he overslides or overruns the base, the runner must be tagged to be put out. However, if the forced runner, after touching the next base, retreats for any reason towards the base he had last occupied, the force play is reinstated, and he can again be put out if the defense tags the base to which he is forced;

by Mariner Optimist on Jul 11, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

I:(hiro!

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Damn.

Almost 1st and 2nd one out.

by Mariner Melee on Jul 11, 2009 9:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I kind of question Lowe over Wash here

Depends on who is coming up though…haven’t looked.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 11, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Kinsler/Young/Hamilton I believe.

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh.

Only one lefty and Kinsler has crushed some balls off of him.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 11, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

I seem to have missed quite a bit around here this evening…

~I'm on the DA~

by section331 on Jul 11, 2009 9:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Ronny!

Okay one more then we can get to Olson.

Why do I have more confidence in Olson than the rest of our pen?

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 11, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Legit 98?

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 11, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Think so.

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Groundballs!

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

LLLJ

DO NOT DOWNLOAD CIV 2 IT WILL CONSUME YOU

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 11, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only cure is to switch to Starcraft.

Unfortunately the cure is worse than the disease.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what game didn't get old? Populous.

Anyone else remember that?

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

SAM AND MAX HIT THE ROAD.

CURSE OF MONKEY ISLAND.
BETRAYAL AT KRONDOR.

Long live the 486.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leisure Suit Larry

King’s Quest
Space Quest
Police Quest
but most importantly Goblins, Gobliins, and Gobliiins 3. Sierra fucking owned back then.

by Zwakamatsu on Jul 11, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sierra did all those?

Tribes was my favorite. Also I was strangely addicted to Alpha Centauri, on the original subject of Sid Meier games.

by Omerta on Jul 11, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bought the enitre collection of King's Quest, Space Quest, and Police Quest two years ago.

My computer can’t run them because it is too fast.

Along with the Monkey Island series, these are some of the best games ever made.

by Wilder. on Jul 11, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know about Dos Box?

It’s a slightly more complicated version of an emulator that will play pretty much all old dos games perfectly. I bet you could get it to work with games you install even though I use DOS roms. If you download the program that fixes the sound (can’t remember the name right now) you get completely playable, full games.

by Zwakamatsu on Jul 11, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love DosBox.

It made Betrayal At Krondor playable again for me.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

SCUMM VM is where the awesome is

See above, but I’ve been using the hell out of it lately

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been playing CMI the last couple days

After having played through the first two last week. Also have Full Throttle, Sam and Max, and Indiana Jones and the Fate of Atlantis to get me through the rest of the summer

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

My dad still thinks it's the greatest computer game he's ever played.

Greatest strategy game, at least. Better even than the sequels.

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you find yourself starting a new civ often?

I hate when I am going well and then some barbarians or another civ comes and ruins everything early.

by Wilder. on Jul 11, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Commercial mind melt.

Why is Dex the annoying yellow pages guy freaking out the small blizzard loving child in the kitchen there?

by msb on Jul 11, 2009 9:29 PM PDT reply actions  

WOO

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:38 PM PDT reply actions  

ONE MORE

I don't know how to stop.

by esoteric on Jul 11, 2009 9:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Aardsma!

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Jul 11, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jul 11, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Erik Bedard has a very serious face.

You got slurved!

Hehehe Mark Reynolds is so awesome.

by Slurvey on Jul 11, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

PURE HEAT STRIKEOUT

LET’S TAKE 3 OUT OF 4 HOMOS

by JLC on Jul 11, 2009 9:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I will be behind homeplate tomorrow

Should I bring a snarky frowny Cedeno sign?

by Omerta on Jul 11, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Diamond club?

2009 Safeco Field Record: 5-0 ; Overall Safeco Field Record: 9-4

by Fin on Jul 11, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno.

I was told behind homeplate so I’ll probably be in the second deck. Wont get to actually see the ticket until tomorrow.

by Omerta on Jul 11, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

One side sad, the other side the happy C:Deno one

so you can flip between them, commenting on his game as it goes.

by msb on Jul 11, 2009 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know how awesome Jack Z has been?

Imagine him with 12M more to play with.

Not trading Jarrod Washburn was stupid then, and it is just as stupid now.

by Matthew on Jul 11, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff.
I predict it will be that error that kills us.

I somehow imagine that you’re happy to be wrong

by Mariner Melee on Jul 11, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Ranger Pitching!

Hey Jeff, now that Ranger pitching has owned the M’s, do you feel silly? Oh……

Benno

by Benno on Jul 11, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Go for 3-1 boys!

CLOSE OUT THE FIRST HALF WITH A BANG!

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 11, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions  

You know, I'm sitting here staring at my Morrow

Bobblehead happy that he’s no longer pitching for the big team.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 11, 2009 10:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I would love to know

perhaps he has a really really really really really slow connection.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 11, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops a doodle

Force of habit. I hate boxing people because I usually forget to let them back out.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 11, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoy how you pluralized it.

No, I just have a bad habit of doing the exact same thing.

Poor Fogel.

by Matthew on Jul 11, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You seem to have an outdated way of evaluating pitchers.

The other team not scoring many runs falls just as much, roughly, on the defense, as the pitcher.

by Matthew on Jul 11, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are aware that in some parts of the world people actually spell according to the rules of actual English

Are you so fucking retarded that you’ve been around LL for months without picking up on the fact that I’m not American? Considering your posting history I’m leaning towards ‘yes’.

by Graham MacAree on Jul 11, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We won a war...

To spell however we want. Sure, aluminium makes sense on the column, but it sounds silly. And why have a z if you never use it? The Kinks understood (read the back of their first album), and they’re as British as can be. The Beatles may have stolen the limelight, but The Kinks were the real trailblazers.

by Sidi on Jul 11, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

While I get your point

If you take a second to say the word “patronizing” out loud, you will see that the Z is pretty clearly pronounced in it

by coolconman on Jul 11, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, how are the Giants good?

I mean, having a guy pitch a No-No who was about to be demoted. They’re playing out of their minds.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 11, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup, I get that

Despite Zito.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 11, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although they need another bat

If they are going to have any chance for the playoffs (probably not in any case because the Dodgers are so far ahead and the WC will be tough).

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 11, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aaron Rowand is also underrated

But I’m surprised to see his defense has dropped off, according to UZR. Used to be great and still makes some good plays.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 11, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if he's a little timid

After hurting himself smashing into the wall with the Phillies.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Jul 11, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's an aging centerfielder

that’s the whole reason why that contract was insane in the first place

by seattlebruin on Jul 12, 2009 12:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh man

If I were a Giants fan, I would absolutely get one:

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 11, 2009 10:15 PM PDT reply actions  

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