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Seattle Mariners at New York Yankees, Jul 1, 2009 4:05 PM PDT


Lineup

Seattle Mariners @ New York Yankees

07/01/09 4:05 PM PDT

Seattle Mariners New York Yankees
Ichiro Suzuki - RF Derek Jeter - SS
Russell Branyan - 1B Johnny Damon - LF
Jose Lopez - 2B Mark Teixeira - 1B
Ken Griffey Jr. - DH Alex Rodriguez - DH
Franklin Gutierrez - CF Jorge Posada - C
Wladimir Balentien - LF Robinson Cano - 2B
Chris Woodward - 3B Nick Swisher - RF
Rob Johnson - C Melky Cabrera - CF
Ronny Cedeno - SS Cody Ransom - 3B

Jarrod Washburn

#56 / Pitcher / Seattle Mariners

6-1

195

L

L

Aug 13, 1974


Andy Pettitte

#46 / Pitcher / New York Yankees

6-5

225

L

L

Jun 15, 1972


Well that does it. I have a new favorite team photographer. "Hi Andy! I am here to take your picture. And also you are going to be raped."

Four switch-hitters in the Yankee lineup means Washburn will only get to face two lefties, putting him at the opposite disadvantage that Morrow faced last night. Players who can bat from both sides? We should try getting some of those.

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Should Woodward be "3B"?

Or is this the first time we have had a full lineup without the ""s?

by d0nkey on Jul 1, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Free the quotation marks!

Griffey deserves a “DH” at least.

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turns out that Griffey is middle of the pack in wOBA for DHs

Linky

Of course, he’d lead the league among NL DHs. ;-)

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes it puzzles me how so many DH's can suck so much

How hard is it to find a guy who can hit decently? They don’t even have to play defense, period.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, after looking at the links Matthew provided

I was shocked to see how bad the DHs were. That doesn’t seem like a tough job.

by d0nkey on Jul 1, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a serious statement?

If so, is there an explanation for it?

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus DH's don't play the field so they've got more work to do to stay loose between AB's

it’s not scientific, but most DH’s you hear interviewed talked about how much harder it is to only appear four times a game as far as their preparation and routine goes.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was more addressing the issue of being cold.

Like pinch hitting and coming off the bench and being expected to have your timing ready, DHing presents a challenge because you’re out of the game most of the time.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is where the production penalty comes into account

which I should have pointed out in my initial post.

by acblue on Jul 1, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I was mistaken.

Thought you were talking about positional adjustment.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Not playing the field keeps them cold.

DH’ing incurs a -22.5 positional adjustment and full time DHs get 5 of those runs back on their hitting line due to the difficulties.

by Matthew on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting.

I’d heard the “not playing the field keeps them cold” part before, but I never knew the numbers supported it. Thanks!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

League average wOBA was .332 last year

Only 7 of the 18 DH on that list are above that.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if you can conclude anything from that.

I set the PA to > 150 which was completely arbitrary.
Small sample size rules apply.
7 out of 18 above average seems to me to be well within random variation.

Don’t know if you were going somewhere with your comment. I was just surprised to learn that Griffey stacks up pretty well against other DHs.

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You make me so happy Jeff.
Well that does it. I have a new favorite team photographer. “Hi Andy! I am here to take your picture. And also you are going to be raped.”

by royalcurve on Jul 1, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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Players who can bat from both sides? We should try getting some of those.

We did try twice, one was crazy and could not hit and one was fat and slow and could not hit.

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Jul 1, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Angels have quite a few guys who can stand in either batter's box.

Now, hitting? That’s a different story.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we need our best pitchers against the BoSox

Have we played the Red Socks on the 4th before?

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Jul 1, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh God.
“I like Rob catching (Jarrod) Washburn.’’
“I think if you had to describe Rob as a young catcher, the biggest thing for me is the word ‘presence’,‘’ Wakamatsu replied. "I think he gives a belief system to a lot of pitchers out there. There are things we talk about daily that he’s got to get better at, but the one thing he has, for a young guy, he has a strong presence back there. He’s not afraid. He’s a very tough young player.’’

Wak and Rob Johnson are like Hargrove and WFB

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 1, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I can almost see myself in the reflection on my shoe.

I wonder if I could get close enough to kiss myself.

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It depends on Jobu's mood today.

You didn’t touch Jobu’s rum, did you? Because that would be a very bad thing.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're so boned.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gutz sexblast time?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

Even YES replayed it and showed it a good few inches inside.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All Star Roster expanded to 33

13 pitches now.

Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"

by bluemax on Jul 1, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitchers even.

Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"

by bluemax on Jul 1, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that Alaska Airlines commercial

Motion-detecting automatic paper towel dispensers are the most useless and frustrating invention ever.

by OlSalty on Jul 1, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Same thing happens every time

I wave my hand in front of it like thirty times, it does nothing. Then as I’m walking away, it spits one out at me.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The paper roll ones are even worse

Every time it detects movement (which is not often) it dispenses about half an inch of paper towel, which is obviously not nearly enough to dry your hands with, so you have to repeat that process about 30 times just to dry your hands.

Maybe they figured by the time you’re done frantically waving your hands in front of the motion sensor for 5 minutes they’ll be air dried.

by OlSalty on Jul 1, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Solo homers don't hurt, right?

This has the hallmarks of another 3-0 tough luck Washburn loss.

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the worst stadium ever.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gutz sac time.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know this is silly

But I feel like our WP went down with that walk. Don’t want Wlad up right now.

by calim on Jul 1, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He sure tried.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, five-pitch inning

And we weren’t batting!

by calim on Jul 1, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I get them being aggressive today

I did not get them being aggressive yesterday.

by Jeff on Jul 1, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm working for the man.

Working for the maaaaaaannnnn.

Thug Life

by Slow Country on Jul 1, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hits like a gnome too

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else think that

they just got a random white guy bobble head and decided who to name the player it represented later?

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs