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7/1: Open Game Thread

Seattle Mariners at New York Yankees, Jul 1, 2009 4:05 PM PDT





Jarrod Washburn

#56 / Pitcher / Seattle Mariners

6-1

195

L

L

Aug 13, 1974




Andy Pettitte

#46 / Pitcher / New York Yankees

6-5

225

L

L

Jun 15, 1972



Well that does it. I have a new favorite team photographer. "Hi Andy! I am here to take your picture. And also you are going to be raped."

Four switch-hitters in the Yankee lineup means Washburn will only get to face two lefties, putting him at the opposite disadvantage that Morrow faced last night. Players who can bat from both sides? We should try getting some of those.

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Should Woodward be "3B"?

Or is this the first time we have had a full lineup without the ""s?

by d0nkey on Jul 1, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Free the quotation marks!

Griffey deserves a “DH” at least.

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turns out that Griffey is middle of the pack in wOBA for DHs

Linky

Of course, he’d lead the league among NL DHs. ;-)

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes it puzzles me how so many DH's can suck so much

How hard is it to find a guy who can hit decently? They don’t even have to play defense, period.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, after looking at the links Matthew provided

I was shocked to see how bad the DHs were. That doesn’t seem like a tough job.

by d0nkey on Jul 1, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is this a serious statement?

If so, is there an explanation for it?

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus DH's don't play the field so they've got more work to do to stay loose between AB's

it’s not scientific, but most DH’s you hear interviewed talked about how much harder it is to only appear four times a game as far as their preparation and routine goes.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was more addressing the issue of being cold.

Like pinch hitting and coming off the bench and being expected to have your timing ready, DHing presents a challenge because you’re out of the game most of the time.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which is where the production penalty comes into account

which I should have pointed out in my initial post.

by acblue on Jul 1, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I was mistaken.

Thought you were talking about positional adjustment.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Not playing the field keeps them cold.

DH’ing incurs a -22.5 positional adjustment and full time DHs get 5 of those runs back on their hitting line due to the difficulties.

by Matthew on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting.

I’d heard the “not playing the field keeps them cold” part before, but I never knew the numbers supported it. Thanks!

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

League average wOBA was .332 last year

Only 7 of the 18 DH on that list are above that.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if you can conclude anything from that.

I set the PA to > 150 which was completely arbitrary.
Small sample size rules apply.
7 out of 18 above average seems to me to be well within random variation.

Don’t know if you were going somewhere with your comment. I was just surprised to learn that Griffey stacks up pretty well against other DHs.

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You make me so happy Jeff.
Well that does it. I have a new favorite team photographer. “Hi Andy! I am here to take your picture. And also you are going to be raped.”

by royalcurve on Jul 1, 2009 3:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

.
Players who can bat from both sides? We should try getting some of those.

We did try twice, one was crazy and could not hit and one was fat and slow and could not hit.

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Jul 1, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The Angels have quite a few guys who can stand in either batter's box.

Now, hitting? That’s a different story.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we need our best pitchers against the BoSox

Have we played the Red Socks on the 4th before?

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Jul 1, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh God.
“I like Rob catching (Jarrod) Washburn.’’
“I think if you had to describe Rob as a young catcher, the biggest thing for me is the word ‘presence’,‘’ Wakamatsu replied. "I think he gives a belief system to a lot of pitchers out there. There are things we talk about daily that he’s got to get better at, but the one thing he has, for a young guy, he has a strong presence back there. He’s not afraid. He’s a very tough young player.’’

Wak and Rob Johnson are like Hargrove and WFB

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 1, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I can almost see myself in the reflection on my shoe.

I wonder if I could get close enough to kiss myself.

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It depends on Jobu's mood today.

You didn’t touch Jobu’s rum, did you? Because that would be a very bad thing.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're so boned.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gutz sexblast time?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

Even YES replayed it and showed it a good few inches inside.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All Star Roster expanded to 33

13 pitches now.

Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"

by bluemax on Jul 1, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pitchers even.

Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"

by bluemax on Jul 1, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with that Alaska Airlines commercial

Motion-detecting automatic paper towel dispensers are the most useless and frustrating invention ever.

by OlSalty on Jul 1, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Same thing happens every time

I wave my hand in front of it like thirty times, it does nothing. Then as I’m walking away, it spits one out at me.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The paper roll ones are even worse

Every time it detects movement (which is not often) it dispenses about half an inch of paper towel, which is obviously not nearly enough to dry your hands with, so you have to repeat that process about 30 times just to dry your hands.

Maybe they figured by the time you’re done frantically waving your hands in front of the motion sensor for 5 minutes they’ll be air dried.

by OlSalty on Jul 1, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Solo homers don't hurt, right?

This has the hallmarks of another 3-0 tough luck Washburn loss.

by PDXTai on Jul 1, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the worst stadium ever.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gutz sac time.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know this is silly

But I feel like our WP went down with that walk. Don’t want Wlad up right now.

by calim on Jul 1, 2009 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He sure tried.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow, five-pitch inning

And we weren’t batting!

by calim on Jul 1, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I get them being aggressive today

I did not get them being aggressive yesterday.

by Jeff on Jul 1, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm working for the man.

Working for the maaaaaaannnnn.

Thug Life

by Slow Country on Jul 1, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hits like a gnome too

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else think that

they just got a random white guy bobble head and decided who to name the player it represented later?

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"It doesn't look that close to tell you the truth"

-Niehaus.

I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.

by ralphie81 on Jul 1, 2009 5:23 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT

REPLAY SLOWS THE GAME DOWN!

by Wilder. on Jul 1, 2009 5:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice job so far

by Washburn and Johnson holding the Yankees to 2 runs through 5.

Looks like they have enough to get through 7-8 innings.

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That open stance of Branyan

still scares me in this stadium.

Hat trick.

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Branyan channeling old Branyan

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If

Branyan doesn’t hit at least 1 home run in Yankee stadium i’ll probably cry.

by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 1, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I just started watching the game.

So yesterday Griffey played LF to get Sweeney’s bat into the lineup more against righties, and now we play Balentien in left ad Griffey DHs? I’m missing a huge piece of the puzzle here I think.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 1, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GRIFFEY!

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

bahahahahaha

This stadium has to be changed.

by Jeff on Jul 1, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GRIFFEY! HAW! HAW!

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jul 1, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well!

I was just going to ask why one of the Mariners couldn’t hit one of those home run thingys.

by msb on Jul 1, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Wlad, how about showing some of that fucking power you're supposed to have?

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

WHAT THE FUCK?

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Que?

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He wasn't even in camera view when the ball reached 2nd base.

For a moment I was wondering why the hell they were throwing the ball to 2nd base.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

No

Posada just looped it to second base and got Guti easily

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

Gutierrez; “What happened?”

Everyone else: “Yer out, son!”

~I "write" about the Mariners. section331.com~

by section331 on Jul 1, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He couldn't do any worse against A-rod

Somebody in here had it right:

Tie.

Yankees lead.

Tie.

Yankees lead.

Tie.

Yankees Win.

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners fans amuse me.

Too many of my friends happen to be them.

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bali, Indonesia

Looking out the Hardrock Hotel next to the nude beach

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who are you?

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jul 1, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well you aren't annoying at all.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That looked bad

was that bad?

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't fatal.

But it was bad enough.

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obvious.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jul 1, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Boy, I can hardly wait for that soccer game later!

~I "write" about the Mariners. section331.com~

by section331 on Jul 1, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well at least it was someone we like...

"I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest God-damned reason why anybody should stare at them."

by ImaginaryRomances on Jul 1, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is FSN replay right?

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Nick Swisher needs to do steroids.

He just looks like a guy who needs to do it to make himself happy.

"I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest God-damned reason why anybody should stare at them."

by ImaginaryRomances on Jul 1, 2009 5:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To play a ball that poorly

and still get the out was very disheartening

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Remember in that episode of Arrested Development when Buster just goes off on his Mom and they just beep it out for like 25-30 seconds straight.

Whatever that is should be Chris Woodward’s new nickname.

"I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest God-damned reason why anybody should stare at them."

by ImaginaryRomances on Jul 1, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

13 walks in only 20 innings pitched too

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

two base on ball in last 10 innings

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tough luck for Robbie

That ball was scalded.

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

All Mariners Fans

are conspiracy theorists and paranoid schizophrenics…

Except you, Jeff; you’re just on the edge of insanity.

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're just too adorable.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Jul 1, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yahoo is the worst major sports outlet on the internet

They love sensationalism and creating stories that don’t exist.

Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"

by bluemax on Jul 1, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I disagree

but that’s because ESPN isn’t out to destroy my Alma Mater like Yahoo is.

Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"

by bluemax on Jul 1, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yahoo: Facts? What are those?

“We’ll take the word of an excon at face value!”

Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"

by bluemax on Jul 1, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah!

They slandered the good clean name of Reggie Bush.

"I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest God-damned reason why anybody should stare at them."

by ImaginaryRomances on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Diminished production...

Great timing to publish that.

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rizzsy loves the Yankee Captain.

He also loves Bob Shepard, though, and that made for some entertaining radio on the ride home, as he & Sims talked about Shepard & imitated him. Rizzs said he’d called Bob when they got to town, and Bob (at age 99) says his voice is willing but his body isn’t. “The stamina is not there. Sta-min-nah. That is a fine word.”

by msb on Jul 1, 2009 6:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Losing would be more tolerable

If I didn’t have a fucking Lionel Richie song stuck in my head

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wrong guy

...and now I'm here

by Librocrat on Jul 1, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm just saying I would.

I mean come on, Lionel Richie?

by SethGrandpa on Jul 1, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's talking about the other

White black guy who just died

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All, night, long

All Night!!!

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe it was Matt Morris

who was the topic of discussion

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This ballpark is too big!

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Jul 1, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is where I write

about my obligatory stupor at seeing a lefty Branyan in the 2-hole behind a lefty Ichiro

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

3 more outs to Mo

I wonder if we see Hughes or Bruney in the 8th

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you are confused

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That last time the Mariners batted was in fact the eighth inning of this baseball game

in it, the Mariners made three outs in a row. By the rules of baseball, the Mariners only get one more chance to hit, and by basic strategy, Mariano Rivera, the “closer” of the Yankees bullpen will most likely come in.

Hey look I can comment just like you

by seattlebruin on Jul 1, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Golden

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Struck out?

Take your seat, Foo’ !!

by Terrekain on Jul 1, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rangers up 1-0.

If they win, I’m not ready to sell. If Angels win, probably.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Usery!!!

Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles

by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs