7/1: Open Game Thread
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 3:02 PM PDT
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Well that does it. I have a new favorite team photographer. "Hi Andy! I am here to take your picture. And also you are going to be raped."
Four switch-hitters in the Yankee lineup means Washburn will only get to face two lefties, putting him at the opposite disadvantage that Morrow faced last night. Players who can bat from both sides? We should try getting some of those.
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Should Woodward be "3B"?
Or is this the first time we have had a full lineup without the ""s?
I overreacted last night and he is not as bad as he seemed
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Turns out that Griffey is middle of the pack in wOBA for DHs
Of course, he’d lead the league among NL DHs. ;-)
Sometimes it puzzles me how so many DH's can suck so much
How hard is it to find a guy who can hit decently? They don’t even have to play defense, period.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, after looking at the links Matthew provided
I was shocked to see how bad the DHs were. That doesn’t seem like a tough job.
Is this a serious statement?
If so, is there an explanation for it?
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions
You have to produce at a relatively high level to be even replacement level
and there is a production penalty associated with DHing.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 1, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Plus DH's don't play the field so they've got more work to do to stay loose between AB's
it’s not scientific, but most DH’s you hear interviewed talked about how much harder it is to only appear four times a game as far as their preparation and routine goes.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jul 1, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He was more addressing the issue of being cold.
Like pinch hitting and coming off the bench and being expected to have your timing ready, DHing presents a challenge because you’re out of the game most of the time.
angels fan in seattle
Which is where the production penalty comes into account
which I should have pointed out in my initial post.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 1, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes. Not playing the field keeps them cold.
DH’ing incurs a -22.5 positional adjustment and full time DHs get 5 of those runs back on their hitting line due to the difficulties.
Interesting.
I’d heard the “not playing the field keeps them cold” part before, but I never knew the numbers supported it. Thanks!
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions
League average wOBA was .332 last year
Only 7 of the 18 DH on that list are above that.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Not sure if you can conclude anything from that.
I set the PA to > 150 which was completely arbitrary.
Small sample size rules apply.
7 out of 18 above average seems to me to be well within random variation.
Don’t know if you were going somewhere with your comment. I was just surprised to learn that Griffey stacks up pretty well against other DHs.
You make me so happy Jeff.
Well that does it. I have a new favorite team photographer. “Hi Andy! I am here to take your picture. And also you are going to be raped.”
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Players who can bat from both sides? We should try getting some of those.
We did try twice, one was crazy and could not hit and one was fat and slow and could not hit.
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
And then we had some fool in our system who could play the middle infield
and we traded him for an ESPN analyst.
by kentcheesehead on Jul 1, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
The Angels have quite a few guys who can stand in either batter's box.
Now, hitting? That’s a different story.
angels fan in seattle
"Wait, what? You ran over my bunny rabbit?"
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 1, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
Perhaps he prepared a cookie for the photographer but while waiting was unable to control his baser instincts and ingested it himself.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 1, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Would he still look so sorrowful?
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 1, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we need our best pitchers against the BoSox
Have we played the Red Socks on the 4th before?
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
Oh God.
“I like Rob catching (Jarrod) Washburn.’’
“I think if you had to describe Rob as a young catcher, the biggest thing for me is the word ‘presence’,‘’ Wakamatsu replied. "I think he gives a belief system to a lot of pitchers out there. There are things we talk about daily that he’s got to get better at, but the one thing he has, for a young guy, he has a strong presence back there. He’s not afraid. He’s a very tough young player.’’
Wak and Rob Johnson are like Hargrove and WFB
I don't think so.
I think Wak just has to make excuses because Wash hates Joh catching him.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Does this mean we have to trade Washburn and Johnson in a package deal?
Here, take this pitcher and we’ll throw in his catcher for free!
I can almost see myself in the reflection on my shoe.
I wonder if I could get close enough to kiss myself.
According to Wak
draft pick James Jones from Long Island got to come out to the park, meet Jr., & take BP.
Is it a bad sign that when I see that name, I think Jerome James?
by kentcheesehead on Jul 1, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I see Jim Jones...not the rapper...
The cult guy…
by SebastianPruiti on Jul 1, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Pseudonym
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jul 1, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yah, someday over a beer I'll tell you about my time in the service.
makes a good yarn.
by msb on Jul 1, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It depends on Jobu's mood today.
You didn’t touch Jobu’s rum, did you? Because that would be a very bad thing.
angels fan in seattle
God dammit why does the SouthCenter team store only carry Ichiro and Griffey jerseys?
I have to wait two weeks for my jersey… =(
Best thing that you ever bought that it killed you to wait for shipping?
Killed her too
They forgot to put airholes in the box
Ditto
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jul 1, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm stunned they didn't have a Rob Johnson ready to go for you
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jul 1, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Duke Nukem Forever.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Jul 1, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Does "winning" also equal "not losing"?
Because if you can make it home in the next ~2 minutes, you’re sure to be fine!
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jul 1, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
He seems to be giving a generous strike zone.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I think all of the umpires have a running bet this season on who can fuck the Mariners up the most
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It's okay.
Eventually the karmic debt will build up and we’ll get another Gerry Davis call.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Jarrod Washburn will not give up a homerun this game
by Dewey N on Jul 1, 2009 4:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Scouted mostly as a pitcher.
We drafted him as an outfielder.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It's not really though.
It’s always horrible, but he’s not consistent about the bullshit strikes he calls.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes with gameday it looks worse than it was...
it was that fucking bad…
by SebastianPruiti on Jul 1, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
If Rob Johnson was a good teammate he'd wait for Aardsma to get in the game, call a high fastball and duck.
I fucking hate you Mariners
All Star Roster expanded to 33
13 pitches now.
Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"
Pitchers even.
Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"
I'm more of a (:edeno fan
You got slurved!
Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!
I think there's nothing wrong with being a fan of a guy with a .200 wOBA.
I grew up with the 80s Mariners, and knowing just how awful some of those guys were doesn’t change the fact that I loved them.
Boy our performance with RISP sure is bad and looks to continue being bad for the rest of the season
by Dewey N on Jul 1, 2009 4:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How do you feel about DVDA?
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jul 1, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with that Alaska Airlines commercial
Motion-detecting automatic paper towel dispensers are the most useless and frustrating invention ever.
Same thing happens every time
I wave my hand in front of it like thirty times, it does nothing. Then as I’m walking away, it spits one out at me.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
The paper roll ones are even worse
Every time it detects movement (which is not often) it dispenses about half an inch of paper towel, which is obviously not nearly enough to dry your hands with, so you have to repeat that process about 30 times just to dry your hands.
Maybe they figured by the time you’re done frantically waving your hands in front of the motion sensor for 5 minutes they’ll be air dried.
Well you'd figure Branyan would be a better bet there
though the more I think about it, he’s probably the third or fourth best hitter on the team
I wonder if he angried his mole off
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It can't come off, it can only move
maybe it’s on his ear now or something
Wasn't that a 2-0 pitch? Screen said 3-0 and so did Blowers
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I know this is silly
But I feel like our WP went down with that walk. Don’t want Wlad up right now.
My first reaction was "Fuck, now the ground ball is going to be an inning ending double play instead of a run scoring out."
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.
Good work Wlad, now we get our oh so powerful 7-8-9 hitters in the 5th.
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I get them being aggressive today
I did not get them being aggressive yesterday.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Hits like a gnome too
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Cedeno gave that the ride that NOLA wants to give Cedeno
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I don't see the pun in this, but I feel I should.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
Anyone else think that
they just got a random white guy bobble head and decided who to name the player it represented later?
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
"It doesn't look that close to tell you the truth"
-Niehaus.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
To be fair I'd be all for that
I hate watching the fat faggot pitch.
Nice job so far
by Washburn and Johnson holding the Yankees to 2 runs through 5.
Looks like they have enough to get through 7-8 innings.
Branyan's tanking in July so far
I guess regression had to come sometime
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 1, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions
What was this I was hearing
about Branyans hand-eye coordination exercises that were part of his improvement this year?
Branyan channeling old Branyan
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
If
Branyan doesn’t hit at least 1 home run in Yankee stadium i’ll probably cry.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 1, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions
Damon jerks the pitch
into this short porch, albeit he usually doesn’t need it; many if not most of his HRs are bombs.
He’s got legitimate power.
Johnny Damon has hit exactly one home run longer than 400 feet
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You know, I kind like Damon when he was a clean-living young pup with KC
Then he had his mid-life crisis at age 30 and general assetry ensued.
by msb on Jul 1, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I just started watching the game.
So yesterday Griffey played LF to get Sweeney’s bat into the lineup more against righties, and now we play Balentien in left ad Griffey DHs? I’m missing a huge piece of the puzzle here I think.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 1, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions
GRIFFEY! HAW! HAW!
You got slurved!
Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!
That was hit pretty hard
at least a double pretty much anywhere
Yep
laughable homer, good hit nevertheless.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Im a little suprised Griffey has hit so many homers off lefties
Is that 5 of his 10?
1.15 OPS against lefties this season
Yay small samples
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 1, 2009 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions
If I were to guess, I would think that his power (iso) ability doesn't change versus lefties.
Only that he doesn’t have as good an eye for the strike zone. But as long as he hits the ball it likely has the same chance of leaving. That would be my guess, without being able to get the splits to work.
...and now I'm here
Hey Wlad, how about showing some of that fucking power you're supposed to have?
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.
Que?
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
He wasn't even in camera view when the ball reached 2nd base.
For a moment I was wondering why the hell they were throwing the ball to 2nd base.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.425 wOBA, 21 years old.
Ha!
Gutierrez; “What happened?”
Everyone else: “Yer out, son!”
~I "write" about the Mariners. section331.com~
He couldn't do any worse against A-rod
Somebody in here had it right:
Tie.
Yankees lead.
Tie.
Yankees lead.
Tie.
Yankees Win.
You have friends?
You got slurved!
Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!
It's not so much the team you like as it is your being really unpleasant to interact with
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Ohhhh and soooo assertive! Hey! I'm hosting a show in New York next week!
It’s at Lucky Cheng’s, maybe you’ve heard of it!
That looked bad
was that bad?
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Well at least it was someone we like...
"I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest God-damned reason why anybody should stare at them."
by ImaginaryRomances on Jul 1, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions
This is FSN replay right?
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Don't worry, we'll tie it up next inning
Then give it back up.
Nick Swisher needs to do steroids.
He just looks like a guy who needs to do it to make himself happy.
"I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest God-damned reason why anybody should stare at them."
by ImaginaryRomances on Jul 1, 2009 5:48 PM PDT reply actions
Bending a paper clip in crazy directions would make Nick Swisher happy
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
No matter how hard you try you can never bend it straight
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
To play a ball that poorly
and still get the out was very disheartening
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Remember in that episode of Arrested Development when Buster just goes off on his Mom and they just beep it out for like 25-30 seconds straight.
Whatever that is should be Chris Woodward’s new nickname.
"I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest God-damned reason why anybody should stare at them."
by ImaginaryRomances on Jul 1, 2009 5:53 PM PDT reply actions
13 walks in only 20 innings pitched too
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
He's been good since coming back from the DL
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions
two base on ball in last 10 innings
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
I only know what happens to us
I can’t imagine we get it any better or worse than other teams.
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
If you go all the way back to that 'rate the umps' poll of '98
Dale Scott was not in the top 5 of any category, including accuracy of pitch calling.
by msb on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
All Mariners Fans
are conspiracy theorists and paranoid schizophrenics…
Except you, Jeff; you’re just on the edge of insanity.
Yes, no other teams have ever complained about the umpires.
It’s a Seattle thing. We’re hopped up on Starbucks and Nirvana.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yahoo is the worst major sports outlet on the internet
They love sensationalism and creating stories that don’t exist.
Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"
I disagree
but that’s because ESPN isn’t out to destroy my Alma Mater like Yahoo is.
Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"
Yahoo: Facts? What are those?
“We’ll take the word of an excon at face value!”
Paris Hilton, Burberry plaid, reality TV, mullets, Zima, Dubya, and the Sonics being sold to Oklahoma City. - Yahoo Answer results for "7 Signs of the Apocalypse"
Yeah!
They slandered the good clean name of Reggie Bush.
"I have two normal feet and I can't see the slightest God-damned reason why anybody should stare at them."
by ImaginaryRomances on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Cody Ransom laughs at you behind your back
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Do other teams select captains?
Because im getting tired of Jeter being called “captain”.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 1, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions
Rizzsy loves the Yankee Captain.
He also loves Bob Shepard, though, and that made for some entertaining radio on the ride home, as he & Sims talked about Shepard & imitated him. Rizzs said he’d called Bob when they got to town, and Bob (at age 99) says his voice is willing but his body isn’t. “The stamina is not there. Sta-min-nah. That is a fine word.”
I just want this game to end in time to watch the Sounder game.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Well, at least Branyan's obligitory homerun this inning will be fun to watch.
...and now I'm here
Losing would be more tolerable
If I didn’t have a fucking Lionel Richie song stuck in my head
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
wow
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
He's talking about the other
White black guy who just died
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
All, night, long
All Night!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Your sig always makes me thankful. At least we don't have Barry Zito.
by Fuckmikereilly on Jul 1, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe it was Matt Morris
who was the topic of discussion
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
This ballpark is too big!
I fucking hate you Mariners
He's the Yankees long-reliever.
I think this is the first time he’s ever come in for just one batter.
This is where I write
about my obligatory stupor at seeing a lefty Branyan in the 2-hole behind a lefty Ichiro
Yes, because being in agreement with Michael Kay about baseball strategy makes you smart.
You know there’s a Yankees SBN blog you can hang out at? Funny how that works, you don’t have to comment on another team’s blog.
I keep thinking the same thing, the stilted sentence structure would be perfect cover.
Easiest way to cover for language usage, etc.
Well Branyan had a marvelous game.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Has Branyan struck out 3 or 4 times?
by Pessimistic Optimist on Jul 1, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions
I think you are confused
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
That last time the Mariners batted was in fact the eighth inning of this baseball game
in it, the Mariners made three outs in a row. By the rules of baseball, the Mariners only get one more chance to hit, and by basic strategy, Mariano Rivera, the “closer” of the Yankees bullpen will most likely come in.
Hey look I can comment just like you
Wait it's the eighth?
Good thing I turned up here.
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 1, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
No no, it WAS the eighth
now it’s the ninth
Oh dear it appears I am confused.
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 1, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Taylor H will post "That was the 8th" in two days
by Jeff Sullivan on Jul 1, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 11 recs
Golden
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Usery!!!
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Yep
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
Don't believe the lies Bill!!!! look at the sparkly ERA!!! Sparkly, Sparkly!!! - McCovey Chronicles
by Trenchtown on Jul 1, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Which is why I didn't insult it
I was still hoping your comments would take on a squeaky tone, however
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 1, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I like that guy's neon pink cap
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 1, 2009 6:24 PM PDT reply actions
Three-run home by Griffey
He’s such a studly leader
Yeah, he's slipping
He had six walks all of last year.
Three now, and we aren’t halfway through the season yet.
SELL NOW...
But seriously…how did Washburn look? Seems like he gave up a lot of hits. Line drives?
I fucking hate you Mariners
It is in NY...were they all legit?
I fucking hate you Mariners
Too many home runs
otherwise he looked OK
Let's go Sounders!!!!!!!!!!
I fucking hate you Mariners
It would somehow be fitting if Vargas v. CC was the game we actually won
Not that I think it’s going to happen. I’m not saying; I’m just saying.
On to the hated Sounders/Timbers rivalry!
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 1, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions
This may divide LL!! OH MY
I fucking hate you Mariners
Take it Brian
I’ll join in
Ronny, TAKE
by Kirsten Schlewitz on Jul 1, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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