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Well I'm Flummoxed

Hit it, LaRue.

The back-and forth career of Seattle right-hander Brandon Morrow – he’s a starter, no a reliever, no a starter – is about to take another turn.

It will land him, probably by the end of this week, in the starting rotation of the Tacoma Rainiers.

Morrow, the 24-year-old first-round draft pick in 2005, approached the team last month and told them he’d changed his mind about being a reliever. He wanted to be a starting pitcher.

Later on:

Morrow doesn’t doubt he can start regularly and wants the chance to prove it.

I'll repeat that in case you missed it:

Morrow doesn’t doubt he can start regularly and wants the chance to prove it.

This is the angriest I've ever been at good news.

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It's almost like he lied about not feeling right starting to stay with the big club.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 8:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So what the hell was with his "I've always wanted to be a closer" bullshit?

Obviously this is good news, but the dude can’t make up his mind on what he wants to do.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Jun 9, 2009 8:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's almost like you don't let a young player choose their own position.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Morrow has turned into my favorite mariner that I hate for some goddamn reason.

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 9, 2009 8:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am so excited.

I love Brandon Morrow.

by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 9, 2009 8:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll take this opportunity to re-state something I've mentioned a few times

Last year, Morrow’s body was absolutely dead after starts. Way worse than is the case for the average pitcher. Now we get to find out whether that was because he wasn’t stretched out properly, or because his body isn’t cut out for it. I’m very concerned that it’s the latter, but at least we’re going to find out for sure. Here’s hoping we give him as much time as he needs.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 9, 2009 8:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That's all I was hoping for

Was a chance to find out for sure, because I really don’t think it was done even close to properly the first time.

If he’s still dealing with those issues after we don’t rush him this time, then the bullpen is where he’s meant to be.

by OlSalty on Jun 9, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was just looking at his pitch counts for last year.

Of the five games he started, he threw 106, 90, 80, 113, and 114 pitches. He was obviously beat after the first start, and the results show it. He didn’t last long, and the Angels and Royals took advantage of him. He came back to last just over six innings for the final two starts of the season, with mediocre results, but he also did so against the pathetic Athletics’ offense.

I’m happy that he’s going to give starting another go, but unless the club discovers a method of keeping his body fresh, I don’t see him putting up the results we’d expect from a #5 overall draft pick.

by katal on Jun 9, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It makes me want to punch him in the kidneys.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

?

http://garfield.nfshost.com/1988/08/07/

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(Specifically the last frame)

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But NO Morrow would've been even better...

(in my non-Avatar life, I’m still wondering where 2006 went — why can’t it disappear in my Avatar, too?)

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jun 10, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah and he's going to the minors...

so his service time clock stops. It’s all good. And hell, at this point if he gets good in a couple years it’s exceeding our current expectations.

by gustafm on Jun 9, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

would enjoy an ice cold lemonade?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lucky us.

By then, we should figure out where we want him.

by Sinking Away on Jun 9, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having a guy with his stuff and paying him dirt is very valuable.

We’re not a third of the way through Morrow’s service time. It’s frustrating, but it’s not as if he’s not a big asset.

by Teej on Jun 9, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was most responding to the events so far.

He’s been telling them where he wants to play or doesn’t want to play. What’s up with that? Where does that happen?

by Sinking Away on Jun 9, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOD.

But hey, at least he’s going to have to work on his secondary stuff, because throwing 97 somewhere in the general direction of home plate won’t cut it for starting.

by eponymous_coward on Jun 9, 2009 8:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of underachieving first rounders...

John Hickey on baseball america says:

“(Jeff) Clement’s troublesome knees had improved to the point where he was catching in the bullpen for Triple-A Tacoma. He had been confined to DH since early May.”

It’s almost like all of our bad positional decisions are starting to solve themselves. What’s next? Yuni goes on a diet?

by gustafm on Jun 9, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You bastard.

Seeking joy in our pain!

by marinerdan on Jun 10, 2009 5:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You haven't caught on?

That’s like half the fun of hanging out here.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be kinda mean...

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 9, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope his bobblehead comes with a finger tester and a little can of coke zero.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's funny because I was thinking the same thing.

That he wouldn’t be here for his night. And I too was at Yuni "bobble"head night.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.

by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 10, 2009 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or CF.

He’s got the first part of Ankiel’s career arc down pat.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'm more flabbergasted than flummoxed..

This makes Morrow look like a piece of shit, if you ask me. As Jeff says, it’ll be good to see if the divine-wrath-like pain Morrow was feeling after starts was a result of not being in starting shape, Morrow being a self-serving little bitch, or a legitimate limitation on him as an athlete and holyhellwhydidwedrafthimthenhe’sclosetouselesshisupsideisthesameasLopey’s.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 9, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair,

both of the upsides were pretty good at one point.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He sounds like a head-case.

Terribly handled, but still a head-case.

by Sinking Away on Jun 9, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of that post,

did we ever find out that it was really him or not?

by craig3410 on Jun 9, 2009 8:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

When does the draft start up again?

And how many rounds will there be tomorrow?

by DAMellen on Jun 9, 2009 8:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Make up your fucking mind, douche.

Other than that…

YAAAAAAAY!

Bye, Jeffie!
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Jun 9, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

YES!

This has zero chance not to add to our Brandon Morrow meme collection!

by Matthew on Jun 9, 2009 9:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This was a rare sarcasm-free Matthew comment.

I am genuinely excited about this solely for how much fun it is going to be to write about.

by Matthew on Jun 9, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Morrow = House.

He wants off vicodin, no he doesn’t, yes he does, no he doesn’t, he likes cuddy, no he doesn’t, yes he does! Wait, no, he likes vicodin! No, he doesn’t!

by Matthew on Jun 9, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions   3 recs

He likes Cameron! No he doesn't! Yes he does! DAmn she's hot! No he doesn't but still wants to bang her!

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 9, 2009 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes you use words that I would never attribute to you.

And they’re always the best words.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Jun 9, 2009 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you haven't found one yet??

On Lookout Landing? REALLY? Are you even trying?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jun 9, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

International players aren't drafted.

And we get it, you didn’t like the draft. You don’t need to post the same comment 10 times. There’s a serious chance that Zduriencik and all the professional baseball personnel he hired might just have a clue what they’re doing.

by Teej on Jun 9, 2009 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats what got me about Bavasi.

Just because they’re ‘pros’ doesn’t mean shit. Not that Dr. Z Hasn’t been good with the decisions so far..

by JamMasterJesus on Jun 9, 2009 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do the have a serious lack of in the organization? Middle infield depth and left-handed hitting.

What did we get today? Two middle infielders, one a switch hitter and one a lefty. Oh, that and Dustin Ackley. And two of the best college hitters in the draft.

by abender20 on Jun 9, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

True that, Teej. Don't get me wrong. I'm super excited about this draft.

This is the first one I’ve been able to follow, and I can feel the baseball fandom growing inside me with every new name I learn about!

by JamMasterJesus on Jun 9, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duh

I was referring to Teej at first. i guess i coulda posted twice… I’m lazy though.

by JamMasterJesus on Jun 9, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I call bullshit.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jun 9, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon "Shimmer" Morrow.

He’s both a floor wax and a dessert topping!

by msb on Jun 9, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Now placing orders at the team store for my "WhinyBitch" #35 jersey

Part of me wants him to settle in and succeed as a starter so we can have him up here as a #4 guy.

Part of me wants him to be just good enough to trade him away to a team that has infinite patience with headcases, in the hopes of getting back a quiet, self-assured middle infielder that can hit .260 and give a damn.

by Spoomeister on Jun 9, 2009 10:05 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Um no if he can stick in the rotation I'd keep him.

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 9, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adam Morrison.

Adam Morrison.

Thug Life

by Slow Country on Jun 9, 2009 10:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

AIDs?

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 9, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

Why did he get so much worse? Why is the endurance more of an issue now? Why were there all those stories about him not keeping on weight this winter but not before?

by Robert on Jun 9, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Homosexual?

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 9, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elephantiasis?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Jun 9, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turtle Cancer?

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 9, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Morrow...Closing?

All is right with the world once again.

Ok, not really, but it’s a lot better.

by Heydude on Jun 10, 2009 12:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck Brandon Morrow.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 1:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well,

I know this guy is pumped about this decision.

by Sec 108 on Jun 10, 2009 8:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Player BB has taken the first step in getting his name back.

This is a start, but I’d be much happier if he was sent way down and made to work his way through the system rather than simply dropping him in AAA.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 10, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack Z called into KJR 950 this morning

And after several questions about Ackley (he sees him in the outfield, 2011 isn’t unreasonable, hopes to sign him early so that he can maximize his development time this year), Mitch lobbed him a hardball question about Morrow. He asked him no less than 3 times, and in no uncertain terms, “did Brandon Morrow come to you and ask to start, and did you talk about him going to Tacoma?”
He artfully avoided an outright answer to the question beyond “we haven’t decided anything for sure yet”, but in his dodging around I came away with the following impressions:
-Morrow’s shift to the ‘pen was partly because our pitching was so suspect (he said worst ERA in baseball coming out of ST), and because he was the only guy on the team with some closing experience.
-Now that we have a few guys who have established themselves as capable of pitching in the late innings (he’s “tickled pink” about Aardsma, very pleased with Kelley and White), it gives more flexibility.
-RRS and Corco are the two names he threw out for pitchers we may need to make some room for.
-Kept stressing the BS about Morrow not getting enough innings in Spring Training still being an issue.
-No matter what happens, he’s going to make the best decision for the club.
-Morrow “just wants to play major league baseball”.
-Plan is to start stretching Morrow out into 2, 3, 4 inning outings and see how that goes.
-He’s talked to Morrow many times, about lots of things, but no decision has been made to send him down to Tacoma or convert him to a starter.

IF I WAS MANAGER I'D HAVE A FIST FIGHT WITH YUNI RIGHT NOW AND KNOCK HIS FUCKING MONKEY HEAD CLEAN OFF (~EM)

by seattlecougar on Jun 10, 2009 10:51 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

.

`

-Kept stressing the BS about Morrow not getting enough innings in Spring Training still being an issue.

Why do you call this BS? It pretty obviously is an issue.

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because we're 2 months into the season

It’d be one thing to blame a slow start on not getting a lot of innings during spring training, but to say the reason he hasn’t gotten stretched out with enough innings in June is a lack of innings in March seems really far fetched to me. I have a hard time believing that they’ve given him all the innings they can now that the season is well underway and his non-Diabetes health problems are behind him.

Yeah the rotation has been pretty solid for the most part, but Miguel Batista has 27 1/3 innings. Olson/Jaku/Vargas have combined for about 20 IP of relief work in mostly 1-3 inning outings. Stark had 11. All combined, that’s over 50 innings of largely junk work, while Morrow’s had only 18 IP (DL stint notwithstanding).

If they think his problem is not having enough innings under his belt this season, they’ve had plenty of opportunities to get them for him.

IF I WAS MANAGER I'D HAVE A FIST FIGHT WITH YUNI RIGHT NOW AND KNOCK HIS FUCKING MONKEY HEAD CLEAN OFF (~EM)

by seattlecougar on Jun 10, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a difference between low-stress ST innings and high leverage MLB innings.

If he wasn’t stretched out in ST and didn’t feel comfortable with his breaking/off-speed stuff that could cause some serious problems.

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's fair

I’ll concede that point.

Why not send him to the minors then? Or pitch him in low stress junk innings?

IF I WAS MANAGER I'D HAVE A FIST FIGHT WITH YUNI RIGHT NOW AND KNOCK HIS FUCKING MONKEY HEAD CLEAN OFF (~EM)

by seattlecougar on Jun 10, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's precisely what they tried to do after it was apparent he wasn't ready

and sending him to the minors is exactly what they’re doing now.

by Matthew on Jun 10, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

From Shannon Drayer:

“Talked to Morrow. He’s a starter. However long he needs in the minors, he is ready for it and wants to do it right.”

by Matthew on Jun 10, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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