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Minnesota Twins at Seattle Mariners, Jun 7, 2009 1:10 PM PDT


Erik Bedard

#45 / Pitcher / Seattle Mariners

6-1

200

L

L

Mar 06, 1979

Kevin Slowey

#59 / Pitcher / Minnesota Twins

6-3

195

R

R

May 04, 1984

Michael Cuddyer

#5 / Right Field / Minnesota Twins

6-2

215

R

R

Mar 27, 1979

Denard Span

#2 / Left Field / Minnesota Twins

6-0

205

L

L

Feb 27, 1984



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And what if he connects with all three?

It would be awesome to get 75% of the cycle out of the way with one swing of the bat.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 7, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could that happen?

I just don’t see how you can get a triple, double and single at the same time, even if he hits all three. And in the same vain what if all three are popped up and they are all caught? Triple play?

by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lineups

Ichiro CF
Branyan 1B
Beltre 3B
Griffey DH
Lopez 2B
Cedeno SS
Chavez LF
BURKE! C
Gutz CF

Span LF
Mauer C
Morneau DH
Crede 3B
Kubel RF
Cuddyer 1B
Harris SS
Gomez CF
Casilla 2B

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 7, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Via Divish:
For the third straight day, Yuni Betancourt is out of the line-up. And no, it’s not to get Ronny Cedeno more playing time. Cedeno is nursing a nasty contusion on his leg from fouling two balls off his shin. Yuni is sitting out for a reason. My guess is his approach and the attitude he has displayed on the days he isn’t playing haven’t helped.

by Zwakamatsu on Jun 7, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cuddyer has played 2 games at first base this year

And about 4 per year the last few. Huh.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 7, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Transaction stuff:

http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/6/7/901762/burke-re-called-stark-re-dfad

Stark DFA’d for Jamie Burke because Johnson is day to day. Also, Tyler Johnson was released.

by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was at yesterday's game.

Damn was that a good catch by Cuddyer

by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Clement can't catch.

He’s been DH’ing.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well they said he was allowed to catch in June since the injury was not that bad.

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 7, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And he has yet to play catcher in June...

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 7, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody needs to Kerrigan Burke's or Quiroz's knee.

You got slurved!

Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!

by Slurvey on Jun 7, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll second that.

He actually looks somewhat compotent at the plate. He had a nice swing on that single yesterday. Not too bad behind the plate either.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.

by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 7, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh my, the halos just had a horror run scoring play in the 8th...

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Annnnnd then they allow a GS

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twins have the best defence?

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow Bedard is 0-5 life vs. the Twins

what’s the point in even starting him?

by Poochie on Jun 7, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

God we're never going to win now

ugh stupid baseball stat nerds ruining the integrity of baseball

by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know dude

He knows like nothing about baseball stats or anything

by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This seems to come up in every thread recently.

But I always have to wonder just slightly if it’s just a clever ruse.

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- P&P&Z

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 7, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So gone.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BRANYAN!

13TH HOMER ON THE YEAR!

by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

A CENTER FIELD SHOT

He is the definition of man.

by JamMasterJesus on Jun 7, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow!

Adrian hits a line drive that DOESN’T go right at somebody!

It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- P&P&Z

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 7, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

GOSH I can't get over the fact that he's a Mariner again

I mean really how cool is it that 10 years later we get to watch him again

by Robert on Jun 7, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You seemed pretty happy to me.

You got to see your childhood hero GRIFFEY!!! after all.

by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And I just opened the thread even

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too late >:(

I should have slept in until 2pm today and then I could contribute down thread

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh Mariners...

Our team BAs range from .352 to .077. Wow.

by Rachmaninoff on Jun 7, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

THANKS FOR THE REPLAY WITH THE BEHIND THE PLATE ANGLE, FSN

THAT CERTAINLY CLEARED UP JUST HOW THE UMP MAKES HIS STRIKE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

K!

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love this feature.

Because I can’t tell the can’s cold by feeling it.

I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.

by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 7, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm wondering if I misread/heard...

Did Erik Bedard really not learn English until like college? Because he speaks with no accent, whatsoever.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Those interviews with him by Angie or whatever.

He speaks a substantial amount and he speaks with an authentic American “drawl”, if you will.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No. I honestly think it's incredible.

He speaks English so perfectly and so easily, it makes me feel like a retard for not learning another language.

by royalcurve on Jun 7, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can feel the love in this game thread.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Sad but true.

On the pregame they were talking about how they couldn’t wait to get Johnson back and all I could think is “Why?”

by Mariner Melee on Jun 7, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They should be in no rush.

Seriously, Rob Johnson to the 15 day DL would have made my day.

by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good shit Burke

Gotta like that guy

by yessirrr on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Burke, nice.

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Remember when Jamie hit that homer that one time?

That was awesome.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I love how amped up Washburn gets.

Even if he sucks sometimes its hard not to like the guy as a competitor.

by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Caption:

Jarrod Washburn celebrates after successfully posting images at LL. With the help of this handy guide: http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/2/7/752841/ll-howto-posting-pics-and he knew not to post images over 300 pixels tall.

by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Nice, but

LATE

And similarly over the pixel limit.

What it really needs is a photoshopping. Sand castle, tops, fighting scorpions, something has to be between them there.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 7, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how Gutz has been better than Sizemore so far this season.

Yeah, Sizemore has been battling injury problems, but still. Neat.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hi, I'm new to this thread

I’m actually a Yankee fan and just watched a thrilling comeback by the Bronx bombers against the Rays.

Can I ask an honest question for you Mariners fans:

Why is your best hitter hitting 2nd?

by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

OK, but what does that have to do with putting Branyan behind him?

If anyone could benefit from Branyan’s protection, it’s Beltre, and Branyan would hit with more runners on base in the 3rd and cleanup position…not trying to be adversarial, I’m on an opposing team’s fanbase. Just seems like a waste to have Branyan behind Ichiro.

by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I don't think opening up the hole is enough of a plus to lose out on Branyan's at-bats in run-productive situations.

I believe protection does exist, Ask any Yankee fan about how Texiera did with and without Arod in the lineup.

by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try this:

Texiera, one of the best offenssive first basemen in the game was hitting below 200 while Arod was out of the lineup.

Since Arod got back, he’s been hitting 400 and homers like there’s no tomorrow.

Again, I’m not a Mariner fan, but Arod and Tex are the Bombers’ best hitters.

I just can’t imagine hitting Arod or Tex in the two-hole position the way the Mariners do, that’s all, that’s all.

Is Branyan hitting #2 a quirky thing or does he usually hit 3 and 4?

by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

that’s a terrible thing to draw a conclusion from. You are convincing yourself something is true based on anecdotal, at best, evidence.

by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All statistics are in a sense anecdotal because they can never tell the whole story

But it’s a fact that pitchers will pitch around in certain situations if they have that kind of leeway in a given lineup; pitching to weaker hitters to avoid the stronger ones.

It’s one of the reasons Pujols has been considered among the finsest hitters if not the finest hitter in the game; not just because of his run-production but because he hits in a weak lineup with no protection.

by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are arguing with an engineer

Your job is to give us the statistics and we draw practical considerations from them for real-world application.

I don’t want to fight, but please don’t use status; just argue on merits, I’ll recognize them for what they are.

by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, I'm an engineer too!

I am not appealing to status. I am just trying to inform you that your basis for deciding what constitutes statistical evidence is, to put it bluntly, laughable.

by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Laughable? Not exactly a cordial dialogue we're having.

Not all engineering is based on statistical evidence. You look at the datasheets and specifications and an experienced engineer can make roundabout estimations on what could and should work. But that still can’t compare with what actually happens in the field with your product because, as any engineer understands: Statistics lie.

That is an iron-clad law in engineering.

You’ve heard of the engineer who was too busy looking at average windspeeds while building a bridge to notice that the data didn’t include PEAK windspeeds for possible hurricanes that had never occurred before right?

Not everything is in the statistical Nyquist plot.

by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I tried.

I did. I honestly put a good forth effort here.

by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are varying degrees of anecdotal-ness

At best saying “Look, Texeira hit .200 without A-Rod and .400 with him!” is a very weak correlation. There are a lot of reasons Texeira could’ve started the season slowly which are much more likely to be true than anything having to do with “protection”. Bad luck, for one.

by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it were true, we'd see it in larger sample sizes than a two-month span for one player.

And that player has always hit far worse in April than he does the rest of the season, anyway.

by Teej on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He feels comfortable there, I guess.

Here’s the story. This is his first seaons playing full-time – no one’s really given him a chance until now.

Of course, your three best hitters should be hitting 1, 2, and 4, so there’s nothing wrong with putting Branyan there in terms of lineup optimization.

by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's our latest lineup plan. Ichiro, Branyan, pray.

Got really tired of Ichiro getting a hit, then getting left on base.

by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd prefer to see him cleanup or 3rd

5th was just ridiculous, 2nd seems a bit extreme in the other direction. But hey, I’m not a major league manager.

by appleshampoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the second best hitter on the team and walks a lot.

I’m cool with him getting the second most PAs on the team.

by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your daily Beltre, gents

Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.

by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tommy Hanson gave up 7 runs in 6 innings today.

Welcome to the bigs kid.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I caught Dustin Ackley's final at-bat in today's game.

It was almost surely his last at-bat at UNC’s stadium, and the crowd gave him a big ovation. He came out immediately and waved to the crowd. It made me happy. Please be a Mariner soon.

by Teej on Jun 7, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs