6/7: Open Game Thread
Minnesota Twins at Seattle Mariners, Jun 7, 2009 1:10 PM PDT
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Are all three of them going to pitch at the same time?
I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.
by BRKLN M'S on Jun 7, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What happens if he swings at a pitch in this situation? Does it count as three strikes because its three balls?
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what if he connects with all three?
It would be awesome to get 75% of the cycle out of the way with one swing of the bat.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 7, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could that happen?
I just don’t see how you can get a triple, double and single at the same time, even if he hits all three. And in the same vain what if all three are popped up and they are all caught? Triple play?
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That guy is like a friendly cockroach.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ackley went yard.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if we photoshop him black, the Nationals will draft him.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is the FO actually going to consider playing him at 2B if we draft him?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do not think so
but they will not say a word about anything related to the draft.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably cause they plan to turn him into a RP.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineups
Ichiro CF
Branyan 1B
Beltre 3B
Griffey DH
Lopez 2B
Cedeno SS
Chavez LF
BURKE! C
Gutz CF
Span LF
Mauer C
Morneau DH
Crede 3B
Kubel RF
Cuddyer 1B
Harris SS
Gomez CF
Casilla 2B
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 7, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yuni hasn't gotten a start since the game before the off day.
Refreshing.
by Zwakamatsu on Jun 7, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This might be the best thing Wak's done all weekend.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 7, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So is he hurt or has management finally gotten tired of him?
by BrianL on Jun 7, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Via Divish:
For the third straight day, Yuni Betancourt is out of the line-up. And no, it’s not to get Ronny Cedeno more playing time. Cedeno is nursing a nasty contusion on his leg from fouling two balls off his shin. Yuni is sitting out for a reason. My guess is his approach and the attitude he has displayed on the days he isn’t playing haven’t helped.
by Zwakamatsu on Jun 7, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cuddyer has played 2 games at first base this year
And about 4 per year the last few. Huh.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 7, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Transaction stuff:
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/6/7/901762/burke-re-called-stark-re-dfad
Stark DFA’d for Jamie Burke because Johnson is day to day. Also, Tyler Johnson was released.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was at yesterday's game.
Damn was that a good catch by Cuddyer
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 12:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Additionally, I had never seen Griffey's swing before.
Even though he’s 39, that swing is a thing of beauty.
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's this thing called TV.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 7, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must have been dually impressed by the size of his ass in person.
by Zwakamatsu on Jun 7, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FOX seemed to love to show his ass every time he was on deck yesterday.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 7, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boomshakalaka.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- P&P&Z
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 7, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So lets hop Burke pulls a hamstring because Clement would finally get a call-up.
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 12:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Clement can't catch.
He’s been DH’ing.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they said he was allowed to catch in June since the injury was not that bad.
You got slurved!
Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!
by Slurvey on Jun 7, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he has yet to play catcher in June...
You got slurved!
Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!
by Slurvey on Jun 7, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody needs to Kerrigan Burke's or Quiroz's knee.
You got slurved!
Free Tommy Hanson! [FREED]! Free Jeff Clement! Free Michael Saunders!
by Slurvey on Jun 7, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll second that.
He actually looks somewhat compotent at the plate. He had a nice swing on that single yesterday. Not too bad behind the plate either.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 7, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Save for that one passed ball.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This tbs is crew is the most obnoxious crew in the history of crews
by Poochie on Jun 7, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love how when they were talking about Youkilis being a guy you love to have on your team.
David Wells chimed in saying that he didn’t really like Youkilis when he played with him.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially when they have Padilla pitching.
I thought they released him.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 7, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here. Could have swore they DFA'd his ass.
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't he decent when he was a Philly?
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really.
He was slightly above average for a year in Philly and a couple of years in Texas but he has generally sucked his whole career.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except against us.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 7, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my, the halos just had a horror run scoring play in the 8th...
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Annnnnd then they allow a GS
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the heck
1) We like strikes
2) No plain, no peanuts
3) Safe haven
by Poochie on Jun 7, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
#2 could be Krueger's best one ever.
Up there with “Arriba, Arriba”
by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slowey looks like he is 12 years old.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Twins have the best defence?
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow Bedard is 0-5 life vs. the Twins
what’s the point in even starting him?
by Poochie on Jun 7, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
God we're never going to win now
ugh stupid baseball stat nerds ruining the integrity of baseball
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why does Bedard always look like he is having the worst day of his life on the mound?
by yessirrr on Jun 7, 2009 1:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you have 2200 comments already?
Go outside.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know dude
He knows like nothing about baseball stats or anything
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats not what I said.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 7, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poochie is JI (in case you're actually being serious)
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This seems to come up in every thread recently.
But I always have to wonder just slightly if it’s just a clever ruse.
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- P&P&Z
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 7, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it's ok to be critical of Poochie for being an enthusiastic commenter, but not JI?
Wow this place is full of terrible double standards
by Poochie on Jun 7, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was just as lonely outside as it is in here in my basement. >:(
by Poochie on Jun 7, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is because you were not wearing a nifty shirt, letting people know that it was special for you to be outside. May I suggest?
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is amusing but I am still lonely as all get up
by Poochie on Jun 7, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I read that as "as I get up"
it’s like reverse JI
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just hate how blowers actually thinks they make a difference in the game
“Lets see if these can get the boys some runs”
by yessirrr on Jun 7, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need to have rules for the rally fries.
Only to be given out in certain situations. Not when we are ahead or on defense, just for starters.
by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or we can take them out back and shoot them.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh they're harmless.
Let the masses have their fries.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're fucking retarded and I am tired of half an hour of every broadcast being dedicated to the stupid signs people make.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you rather have a dancing monkey?
Things like rally fries are never going away. It’s best to just accept it for your own sanity.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A CENTER FIELD SHOT
He is the definition of man.
by JamMasterJesus on Jun 7, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I do not recommend throwing fastballs there to Russell Branyan if you are keen on avoiding that result.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow!
Adrian hits a line drive that DOESN’T go right at somebody!
It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains. -- P&P&Z
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Jun 7, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
GOSH I can't get over the fact that he's a Mariner again
I mean really how cool is it that 10 years later we get to watch him again
by Robert on Jun 7, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see somebody that shares my enthusiasm
THE KID IS REALLY BACK!
by Robert on Jun 7, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Opening day was the happiest I've ever been
by Robert on Jun 7, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't really seem all that happy.
by royalcurve on Jun 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I was trying to hide my tears of joy
by Robert on Jun 7, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You seemed pretty happy to me.
You got to see your childhood hero GRIFFEY!!! after all.
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was only marred by the anger of Nick Adenhart having to miss his start with flu-like symptoms.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Nick Adenhart always has to be the party pooper.
Fucker.
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the hell is he getting off the DL?
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
After he figures out a way to break out of the coffin and dig six feet upwards.
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He needs to undergo the Cruel Tutelage of Pai Mei
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And I just opened the thread even
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't bother reading most of it, just head to the bottom.
by royalcurve on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too late >:(
I should have slept in until 2pm today and then I could contribute down thread
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What, you just got out of bed or something?
by Kermit. on Jun 7, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nope
Just hadn’t made it this far yet
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate it when people just barge into a GT without saying hi
by Robert on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And for cripes sakes put on some pants first
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel kinda weird that I have to ask twice bro.
Great movie.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake
’Sup dawg. Where all the white women at?
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love it that Griffey is basically Reggie Willits at this point.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 1:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ahahah Dave. "Yuni is pretty deep in the doghouse right now."
by royalcurve on Jun 7, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh Mariners...
Our team BAs range from .352 to .077. Wow.
by Rachmaninoff on Jun 7, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to see Vargas pick his arm zits.
by royalcurve on Jun 7, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THANKS FOR THE REPLAY WITH THE BEHIND THE PLATE ANGLE, FSN
THAT CERTAINLY CLEARED UP JUST HOW THE UMP MAKES HIS STRIKE CALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or are like a lot of Twins doing the high socks look today?
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.
by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
K!
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We should summon the entire IF to the mound more often
by CKel on Jun 7, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The tri-lingual infield.
They must have some great conversations.
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only it were Joh
French, English, Japanese, Spanish
by CKel on Jun 7, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be the shittiest conversation ever.
Poor Joh, nobody can understand him in that situation.
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus Sweeney speaking some bastardized portmanteau of all those.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.
by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the can turns blue does that make it not taste like shit?
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this feature.
Because I can’t tell the can’s cold by feeling it.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 7, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering if I misread/heard...
Did Erik Bedard really not learn English until like college? Because he speaks with no accent, whatsoever.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.
by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Am I the only person who finds this astonishing?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much have you heard him speak though?
His four words?
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those interviews with him by Angie or whatever.
He speaks a substantial amount and he speaks with an authentic American “drawl”, if you will.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.
by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. I honestly think it's incredible.
He speaks English so perfectly and so easily, it makes me feel like a retard for not learning another language.
by royalcurve on Jun 7, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So learn one. What's stopping you?
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suggest French, as it the World's greatest language.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is harder than spanish, though, mind you.
If you speak Spanish, you cover the entire Southwest US and you can pick up Italian easily.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.
by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You get exposed to quite a bit of English in everyday life in Quebec (through media, etc.), but it's still impressive.
by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not so much that he mastered it, it's that there's almost no trace of foreign or second language in it.
Addicted To Quack [dot] com; Dear Joevan, Develop motor skills. Love, ATQ.
by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can feel the love in this game thread.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad but true.
On the pregame they were talking about how they couldn’t wait to get Johnson back and all I could think is “Why?”
by Mariner Melee on Jun 7, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should be in no rush.
Seriously, Rob Johnson to the 15 day DL would have made my day.
by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Burke, nice.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Jamie hit that homer that one time?
That was awesome.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love how amped up Washburn gets.
Even if he sucks sometimes its hard not to like the guy as a competitor.
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caption:
Jarrod Washburn celebrates after successfully posting images at LL. With the help of this handy guide: http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/2/7/752841/ll-howto-posting-pics-and he knew not to post images over 300 pixels tall.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Nice, but
And similarly over the pixel limit.
What it really needs is a photoshopping. Sand castle, tops, fighting scorpions, something has to be between them there.
"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/
by JY on Jun 7, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A stack of pogs would be awesome to 'shop in there
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some fans at Petco are hanging Q's instead of K's for "Quick Outs."
Their sign says:
We eschew the “K”
They take all day
Efficient outs
Are what we’re about
by Teej on Jun 7, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like how Gutz has been better than Sizemore so far this season.
Yeah, Sizemore has been battling injury problems, but still. Neat.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hi, I'm new to this thread
I’m actually a Yankee fan and just watched a thrilling comeback by the Bronx bombers against the Rays.
Can I ask an honest question for you Mariners fans:
Why is your best hitter hitting 2nd?
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ichiro gets on = more chance for run production
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, but what does that have to do with putting Branyan behind him?
If anyone could benefit from Branyan’s protection, it’s Beltre, and Branyan would hit with more runners on base in the 3rd and cleanup position…not trying to be adversarial, I’m on an opposing team’s fanbase. Just seems like a waste to have Branyan behind Ichiro.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The notion of protection does not exist.
A hitter does not get better from being “protected” by other players. Or at least thats what I understand.
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've given a feww stats a once-over and it looks like Branyan is losing out on alot of production chances while Beltre has gotten a significant amount. Maybe your manager should reverse that trend by changing the order...just wondering.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In The Book, Tom Tango found that the maximum difference lineup order can make is about 10-15 runs per year.
About 1-1.5 wins of difference seperates the worst ordered lineup (Ichiro batting 9th! Yuniesky Betancourt cleanup!) vs. the most optimal ordered lineup – and in practice the difference is even less.
by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He seems to be a fairly well-qualifed guy.
I’ll let him make the calls.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ichiro on base opens up the left side of the infield, which is a boon for left handed hitters.
Also, lineup protection doesn’t really exist.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I don't think opening up the hole is enough of a plus to lose out on Branyan's at-bats in run-productive situations.
I believe protection does exist, Ask any Yankee fan about how Texiera did with and without Arod in the lineup.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We prefer to rely on quantified studies instead of asking fans.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Try this:
Texiera, one of the best offenssive first basemen in the game was hitting below 200 while Arod was out of the lineup.
Since Arod got back, he’s been hitting 400 and homers like there’s no tomorrow.
Again, I’m not a Mariner fan, but Arod and Tex are the Bombers’ best hitters.
I just can’t imagine hitting Arod or Tex in the two-hole position the way the Mariners do, that’s all, that’s all.
Is Branyan hitting #2 a quirky thing or does he usually hit 3 and 4?
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
that’s a terrible thing to draw a conclusion from. You are convincing yourself something is true based on anecdotal, at best, evidence.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All statistics are in a sense anecdotal because they can never tell the whole story
But it’s a fact that pitchers will pitch around in certain situations if they have that kind of leeway in a given lineup; pitching to weaker hitters to avoid the stronger ones.
It’s one of the reasons Pujols has been considered among the finsest hitters if not the finest hitter in the game; not just because of his run-production but because he hits in a weak lineup with no protection.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are arguing with a statistician.
Just so you know.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are arguing with an engineer
Your job is to give us the statistics and we draw practical considerations from them for real-world application.
I don’t want to fight, but please don’t use status; just argue on merits, I’ll recognize them for what they are.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, I'm an engineer too!
I am not appealing to status. I am just trying to inform you that your basis for deciding what constitutes statistical evidence is, to put it bluntly, laughable.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laughable? Not exactly a cordial dialogue we're having.
Not all engineering is based on statistical evidence. You look at the datasheets and specifications and an experienced engineer can make roundabout estimations on what could and should work. But that still can’t compare with what actually happens in the field with your product because, as any engineer understands: Statistics lie.
That is an iron-clad law in engineering.
You’ve heard of the engineer who was too busy looking at average windspeeds while building a bridge to notice that the data didn’t include PEAK windspeeds for possible hurricanes that had never occurred before right?
Not everything is in the statistical Nyquist plot.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is like Selgy's hitter protection FanPost on Draysbay all over again.
by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I tried.
I did. I honestly put a good forth effort here.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You must be a really shitty engineer if you don't understand causation != correlation
by Graham on Jun 7, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to think it does.
Then I took a statistics class.
by katal on Jun 7, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are varying degrees of anecdotal-ness
At best saying “Look, Texeira hit .200 without A-Rod and .400 with him!” is a very weak correlation. There are a lot of reasons Texeira could’ve started the season slowly which are much more likely to be true than anything having to do with “protection”. Bad luck, for one.
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't ahev the time to compile all statisctics for this phenomenon, but I don't think it's an isolated outlier.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other people have
and those are the studies to which we are referring.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it were true, we'd see it in larger sample sizes than a two-month span for one player.
And that player has always hit far worse in April than he does the rest of the season, anyway.
by Teej on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod hit #2 for almost all of 1996 and 1997.
by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He feels comfortable there, I guess.
Here’s the story. This is his first seaons playing full-time – no one’s really given him a chance until now.
Of course, your three best hitters should be hitting 1, 2, and 4, so there’s nothing wrong with putting Branyan there in terms of lineup optimization.
by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's our latest lineup plan. Ichiro, Branyan, pray.
Got really tired of Ichiro getting a hit, then getting left on base.
by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd prefer to see him cleanup or 3rd
5th was just ridiculous, 2nd seems a bit extreme in the other direction. But hey, I’m not a major league manager.
by appleshampoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the second best hitter on the team and walks a lot.
I’m cool with him getting the second most PAs on the team.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see him at cleanup too, but I'm OK with the #2 hole experiment.
Can’t hurt, plus it gets him more at bats.
by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your daily Beltre, gents
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fuck me, it's just the third inning!?
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by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This game is going to be so long.
My god.
by Kirkharbaugh on Jun 7, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Hanson gave up 7 runs in 6 innings today.
Welcome to the bigs kid.
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by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 2:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I caught Dustin Ackley's final at-bat in today's game.
It was almost surely his last at-bat at UNC’s stadium, and the crowd gave him a big ovation. He came out immediately and waved to the crowd. It made me happy. Please be a Mariner soon.
by Teej on Jun 7, 2009 2:08 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday confirms what I saw. It looked like a pretty decent pitch from here.
by lailaihei on Jun 7, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Brock and Salk, Bedard said he throws his curveball at 3 different speeds - including one that's faster and sharper and more slider-like, a big bender, and a get-me-over.
Also, I don’t think Gameday’s all that accurate at figuring out pitch type (it’s great for pitch f/x data, but Jeff, for one, doesn’t think it’s all that reliable for pitch type)
by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that one is pretty slider-like. A lot different angle of break than his sweeping curve.
Thanks for the link, by the way.
by lailaihei on Jun 7, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That looked exactly like the ball Mauer went for earlier
Except Mauer stopped short of trying to fall into the dugout. Because Mauer isn’t as gritty as Burke or whatever
by Gihyou on Jun 7, 2009 2:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, at least you guys have Bedard behind the mound
Might not need too much run support early on, but how’s your bullpen Mariners fans?
Don’t know too much about the 2009 team, but used to live in Everett in the early 200s
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That to me is the real problem with rally fries. People are getting too greedy.
Rally fries for 40 people? really?
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by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if they'll give out rally cheezburgers in July.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think all the signs will just read "I can haz rally friez?
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES YES YES
THAT WOULD BE A CRAZE I WOULD GO FOR AND WE NEED TO START
by Poochie on Jun 7, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that works.
"You're so beautiful. You could be a part-time model, but you'd probably still have to keep your normal job."
by nickmo on Jun 7, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Blowers doesn't remember Roberto Petagine being with the M's?!
That was… that was just a few years ago.
by royalcurve on Jun 7, 2009 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll never forget Petagine's bomb against K-Rod.
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by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What? I evidently seem to have! When was this?
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope, we still lost.
But it was still awesome.
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by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, no?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually it just cut the Angels lead to 1
by Robert on Jun 7, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting, I recall it all quite differently.
Is it possible he went deep again a few days later or something for at least a go-ahead?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considering his HR total with the Ms is 1
I think it unlikely.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
He hit another one later, but everyone forgot about it.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the biggest strength anyone can have to be a valued LL poster
is a good sense of what is sarcasm.
by Matthew on Jun 7, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uhh... sorry?
So did he have >1 Mariner homer or not?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, that's what I was crossed up about. My bad.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I'm not meaning to sound rude.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think way early 2006?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awwwwww . . . he gave the ball to his little sister.
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by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wooo Jose!
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by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yes
Lopez does something useful outside the 9th inning.
by Mariner Melee on Jun 7, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait.... Dave... "The Mariners win it 2 to nothing"?
by royalcurve on Jun 7, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Up walks disappointment
Ronny must miss having his fan at the game.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lopez has been showing some power the other way. Didn't he actually hit a ball to the track
in right field the other night?
by Rudy4three on Jun 7, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, 10 feet or so from a walkoff
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by gregrabble on Jun 7, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will cherish the days when 6-9 in the batting order
don’t have me getting up to leave the room.
by Rudy4three on Jun 7, 2009 2:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Next game I'm gonna sit down with a pad and pencil and keep track of how many times we are subjected to each commercial.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking of doing the same thing. Put a tally mark by each one.
Jack in the Box
Burger King
Match 4
Qwest
EQC
Any other Casino
Aflac
by Heydude on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yuni is in the dugout laughing at his "punishment"
by Mariner Melee on Jun 7, 2009 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He strikes me as the type who walks around the dugout whispering to the other players
“I don’t care, I get paid now to do nothing!!! Hahahahaha!”
by Rudy4three on Jun 7, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Given our middle infield play. And the fact we got Saunders and probably Ackley
who could play at least average CF. I’m beginning to wish we kept Valbuena instead of getting Gutz.
by Rudy4three on Jun 7, 2009 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Has Bedard even had a bad start yet?
Sell sell sell.
by katal on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
THIS UMP CAN SUCK MY FUCKING COCK.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was mocking Blowers
Or maybe it was Sims
by CKel on Jun 7, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, I cannot listen to Blowers.
by Sinking Away on Jun 7, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben Stein?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least Blowers has his occasional voice crack anomalies.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jason Kubel looks like a bearcub.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His face looks like it was mauled by a bear.
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey screw you man I have a friend whose face was mauled by a bear
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your the friends with "Bear Man" who lived with bears until one of them ate him?
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's Grizzly Man.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was an excellent film though, did you see it?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I especially liked the part where the bear ate him
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of always pictured Coach being like that guy in real life.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was hilarious that a guy that needy would choose bears of all things to be needy towards
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The real puzzler was him having a girlfriend.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of it, but I thought he was definitely getting complacent with those bears.
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was actually one of the most bizarre relationships I'd ever seen.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit that I didn't like the movie too much.
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grizzly Man or Into the WIld?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will disagree you with you profusely, as will most Alaskans.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interestingly you are the first Alaskan I have met that didn't like it.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is going to veer into political territory so it's best we discuss it elsewhere.
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by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you the poster formerly known as 'Alaskan'?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Always been thewyrm. There used to be several Alaskans here.
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by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dad (raised in Alaska) absolutely hates that film as well.
by BrianL on Jun 7, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never met a fellow Alaskan who didn't.
Fear the NPE
by thewyrm on Jun 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was an interesting little dance Adrian did there
by Nick S on Jun 7, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh
Ichiro walked to a guy who throws nothing but strikes
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Coming into this game, Kevin Slowey had issued seven walks all season.
Today he has allowed two walks.
To the Mariners.
One of them to Ichiro.
by BrianL on Jun 7, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Branyan!
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sims: "(Branyan)'s liking the two-hole!"
teehee!
by katal on Jun 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We really need a different spot for Branyan
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think so too
But whatever you Mariners fans want, you get.
Apparently, there are alot of Mariners fans who want him hitting behind Ichiro.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"But whatever you Mariners fans want, you get."
This is the least true thing I have heard in a long long time
by Nick S on Jun 7, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Utter sarcasm failure?
Our offense is horrific, as has been stated.
Our lineup needed a shakeup.
It seems to be working. Anecdotal, I’m sure, though
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if knowing he has missed out on millions of dollars keeps Russell awake at night.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Being that he still has some millions
I bet he’s managing okay.
by katal on Jun 7, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ichiro-Branyan-Beltre
Now that Beltre’s actually hitting, I absolutely love our 1-3.
by katal on Jun 7, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, Beltre certainly is getting alot of production at-bats according to your guys' stats.
But your lineup is pretty thin with Griffey behind him…not much of a chance he’ll get….well, he does get hit; hit by the ball.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't mean to sound like a jerk but I have no idea what you are talking about
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to have a HOF hitter behind you in order to get hits.
by Teej on Jun 7, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, Griffey was once one of the best, he was slated to break the homerun record; but he's not that kind of a threat now.
With a runner in scoring position, you want Branyan there, not Beltre or Griffey.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
With Griffey behind Beltre, there's no threat to slowy if he doesn't want to give Beltre something to hit strike-throwing machine or not.
I’m still having trouble fathoming this lineup with a cleanup hitter hitting 2nd.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've established that you're perplexed by Branyan hitting second. This is clear.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I do think.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Put your best hitters high in the order because they're going to get more at-bats.
Worrying about protection this much is ridiculous. Good hitters hit, and if the pitcher doesn’t want to pitch to him, then he gets on base and is productive anyway.
by Teej on Jun 7, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But with a singles hitter in front of Branyan,
he has nothing to drive in and you can’t rely on your 7-9 hitters to get on base all that often;
You don’t have the lineup that our Yankees do with threats up and down the hitting order….
It makes little sense to have Branyan hitting second and getting about 66% of the production chances that Beltre gets in the # 3 position.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the third time I've linked this for you to read:
Because we care, [Beyond the Boxscore] would like to remind everyone that lineups are pretty overrated. Believe it or not, the difference between an optimized lineup and a typical, mildly foolish one you’ll see MLB teams use is only about one win over 162 games. It’s obviously worth getting right, but not any more than realizing Troy Percival shouldn’t be your closer…
by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
........................................
……………………….
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As has been stated before the concept of protection in a lineup has been debunked
and I personally am not really a big believer in traditional lineup roles.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll leave that alone, but
How about giving your cleanup hitter a chance to cleanup?
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about a chance to hit directly being Ichiro.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cleanup what exactly, when Ichiro is the only one who can get on base at a decent clip?
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except for Gutierrez, who for some reason is batting 9th every day
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's the effect of having speed on speed if him and Ichiro get on, with Branyan behind them.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the stated reasoning
but it’s not a good reason to give Rob Johnson more PAs than Gutierrez.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have mid 350 OBAs on your team;
granted you don’t ahve as many of them as we do, but Gutierrez is a good candidate it seems.
Center Fielder?
I guess he has speed.
One of you guys mentioned you wanted the hole opened for a left-hander: ok, so drop Ichiro to #2 and make Gutierrez leadoff (that breaks up the lefties of Branyan and Ichiro).
Gutierrez, Ichiro, Beltre and Branyan.
That’s one alternative.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is a good alternative if you want to take at-bats away from your best hitters.
by Teej on Jun 7, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why would a Yankees fan give a shit about our lineup anyway?
Is Russell Branyan on his fantasy team?
by Graham on Jun 7, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't
I’m a Yankee fan who can’t stand good assets going to waste.
You’re a big-cap team.
But your management could be better.
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Traditional lineup roles like cleanup, #3, etc are dumb.
He is the second best hitter on the team and is getting the second most PAs. This arrangement is good.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would only make sense to drop him to cleanup if we had more consistent guys to precede him.
If we had Randy Winn and John Olerud 2001 to put in front of him, be my guest.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys used to do fine with traditional roles during the Martinez-Buhner-Olerud-Boone era.
What happened?
by Terrekain on Jun 7, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interestingly enough we here at Lookout Landing do not fill out the lineup cards
and I can say with a fair amount of certainty that this was true in the 1990s as well.
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously there's old logic in it, it's just not significant.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was quite a sentence or three.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again:
Lineup order makes at most 10 to 15 runs of difference over the course of a season – the difference between, say, 750 and 760-65 runs – and almost always much less in practical terms.
by Decatur on Jun 7, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This ump sucks
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
by InSpokane on Jun 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's first pitch pop-up time.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Junior SLAM!
I yearn for the Grand Salami call
by Mariner Melee on Jun 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dickey up in the pen!
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
They've got their Dickey up when Griffey bats.
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't been calling that pitch
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by gregrabble on Jun 7, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This ump sucks
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by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BUCKNER
The worst umpire in baseball.
by Mariner Melee on Jun 7, 2009 2:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He's pretty bad too. But my vote still goes to Buckner.
by Mariner Melee on Jun 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Joyce?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Dickey just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I'll rec that
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only Branyan was twenty-three. We would sign him to a 5-year deal.
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well that sucked.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
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by EnglishMariner on Jun 7, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I realize you've already been told something about photos
But please use the subject line so they can be collapsed.
thanks
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really, Buckner, really
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
by InSpokane on Jun 7, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dickey in their pen
Tits in ours. We need runs
by CKel on Jun 7, 2009 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How long does Batista have to be the best pitcher in the bullpen for people to stop insisting he's bad?
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am simply not wanting this game to be even longer
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would tend to agree.
He should come in now, before it gets out of hand.
by Sinking Away on Jun 7, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would watch a Dickey-Tits matchup
If you know what I mean
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't follow Taylor, could you please explain in greater detail what you are driving at here?
by acblue on Jun 7, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why of course, Aaron.
Allow me to link you to the powerpoint I have prepared.
by Taylor H on Jun 7, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would end with a blast
If you know what I mean.
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want Branyan batting behing me amirite? Bet he could protect my ASS- etts
If you know what I mean
by Kermit. on Jun 7, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worst goddamn game thread of all time. I blame Griffey.
And by all time I mean since I started logging in to LL
by Kermit. on Jun 7, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
There have been a couple that were worse than this one, but this is certainly up there.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 7, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The walks were going to catch up to him eventually
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by gregrabble on Jun 7, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Well that could have been worse I guess
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by gregrabble on Jun 7, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
2 hours in and it's the bottom of the 5th
Yikes
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And Batista is coming in soon
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
by OlSalty on Jun 7, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a good thing Morneau had HOF calibre hitter Joe Crede protecting him there
Otherwise that RBI groundout doesn’t happen.
by Graham on Jun 7, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Shawn Kelley wouldn't have allowed those runs. When is he due back?
by russak on Jun 7, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But that was Bedard pitching
I doubt Kelley would have come in anyway
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by gregrabble on Jun 7, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring back mini sirloin burgers please
I don’t need “McCafe” commercials.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 7, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmm.
What kind of shenanigans is Wak up to here?
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't Sweet Lou used to have Battle Royales with Buckner?
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by qrsouther on Jun 7, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
New thread
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/6/7/901893/6-7-open-game-thread-part-2
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/6/7/901893/6-7-open-game-thread-part-2
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/6/7/901893/6-7-open-game-thread-part-2
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/6/7/901893/6-7-open-game-thread-part-2
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/6/7/901893/6-7-open-game-thread-part-2
by Jeff on Jun 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
LOAFIE!
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by tootthekazoo on Jun 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
HOLY FUCK!!!
LOAFIE!!!!
"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson
by Willie Mays Haze on Jun 7, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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