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Who will be heir to the King?

With Beltre out the Mariners' IF goes from problem to disaster and I have no doubt the team is working on a solution. As Dave Cameron has pointed out several times, the team has pieces to trade in Bedard and Washburn, and sending those guys away hurts the team less than people think. But what kind of solutions are out there? I've spent a little time poking around ML rosters this afternoon trying to answer this question. What follows is by no means thorough, but is meant to be more of a jump off point where people can perhaps throw in their own suggestions.

In terms of players, I think basically any infielder except 1B can help the team. Since the team is already considering moving Lopez to third, then dealing for a 2B who is a significant improvement over Lopey and is under team control for a few years would be just as good as a 3B rent-a-player despite the higher cost. Similarly, finding a real ML shortstop would shift Yuni to 2B, where his range will play better, and Lopez to third. It's not that I'm a big fan of Lopez at third base, it's just that there aren't a lot of third basemen available and if the team is about to play Cedeno and Woodward at second base and move Lopez anyway.

Anyway, onto the trade-fantasies. By the way, in all these scenarios I'm figuring it's Washburn on the block on account of he's healthy and I don't really see Bedard getting much interest with Sheets hanging out waiting for a contract.

The first place to look, of course, is the Brewers; first place team, close race, loads of talent, and after Gallardo not much pitching to speak of. They have a few players who merit some attention. Craig Counsell, for one, is a lefty with an above average career OBP and gap power (sometimes). He's a GB hitter without the speed to make it really work, and some of his small sample success this season is on acocunt of a BABIP some forty points above career average. Still, ZiPS thinks he can hit for a .310 wOBA the reast of the way, and when that is combined his defense he's a valuable player. Oh, I forgot to mention, he's an excellent, excellent fielder. His career UZR/150 is in the 10< X <20 range at both 2B and 3B.

JJ Hardy is a little less tantalizing, if only because he's in the middle of a poor offensive year. Otherwise, he's a quality glove at SS, has above average power and a better eye than all but one of our current infielders. I'm not seriously considering him though because I don't think the Brewers can replace him as easily as Counsell. Bill Hall and Mat Gamel are also somewhat redundant, but I'm not that excited about either player, as one's not much of a hitter and the other's not much of a fielder.

The Phillies' rotation can use all the help they can get, so I spent a bit of time looking over their roster. Pedro Feliz is a great fielder whose bat will be a pretty good match for what Betlre had given us so far this season. But that's not a good thing. He's a righty with a below average OBP... I don't know why I even mention him.

Baker brought up Garett Atkins, and he has to be considered on account of he'd come real cheap. But he sports a career .730 OPS away from Coors comparet to over .900 at home, and he's a fuck-up fielder. One interesting thing about his splits is it's primarily his average that suffers away form Coors. His ISO is about the same, and he still has a pretty good eye. Anyway, he'd be better than Woodward and that's... actually that sums it up pretty well.

The best candidate, and of course the least likely, would be Willy Aybar. Tampa Bay is looking up at two excellent teams, has been getting poor performances out of Price, Kazmir, and Sonnastine, and could use some bullpen help on top of all that. In the meantime, with Longoria, Bartlett, Zobrist and Pena there isn't much room for Aybar in the infield, and while it's awesome to have a super sub like him, it's more awesome to have a starter who doesn't suck and use a guy like Brignac for your super sub. Aybar is a switch hitter with a good eye average power and a good enough glove. He's under a ridiculous contract through 2010 with a team option for '11 and his versatility would allow the team to be creative with the MIF situation in those years. I don't know how precious he is to the Rays' management, but right now he seems to me like the most desirable infielder in the majors who combines all the elements the Mariners need yet is not an essential cog in his team's machine.

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Why would we trade Washburn for a veteran utility backup?

A contending team would not want to part with a useful part of the ML roster, and for us it would be ,at best, a lateral move.

by Poochie on Jun 30, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zobrist is wotking out just fine for them at second

and the way Sonnastine and Kazmir have pitched they could use some help. Anyhow I don’t want to split hairs about this – I don’t think it’s a great match, I’d just love to get Aybar in an ms uniform.

Who would you have them go after?

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 30, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I posted a list of playedrs the other day and said Freddy Sanchez made sense

but clearly you’d have to do a three team trade in order to sell an compete

by Poochie on Jun 30, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He looks pretty good

His option for ‘10 seems likely to vest (635PA and he’s at 300 already) which I think I would be ok with. What are the Pirates looking for in terms of the farm? AAA pitchers? Their GM said that they wanted pre FA relief and toolsy OF, which is what they got in the trades already announced. If they want more, well, I think we can make a deal without intermediates.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno I'm not into rosterbation

and really couldn’t speculate as such, all I can say is that he seems like a reasonable trade target

by Poochie on Jul 1, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If we find a decent SS

could Yuni slide over to 3B when he comes back? It seems it might be easier that Yuni → 2B and Lopez → 3B.

by I Lick Squirrels on Jun 30, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The only place I want Yuni sliding to is another team or Cuba

I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.

by InSpokane on Jun 30, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You also don't need it as much at Second Base.

However, it would make more sense (defensively) to trot out a line up of Lopez 3B, Yuni 2B, and Cedeno at SS. That combo would probably be the closest they could get to a league average infield defense with Beltre out.

by greg briley on Jul 2, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Rays re-signed Aybar to a really favorable deal.

Longoria has a gimpy hammy that doesn’t seem to be going away, and Aybar is option B at 3B, 2B, DH, and 1B. I’m pretty sure, unless someone blows them away, he’s not going anywhere.

by R.J. Anderson on Jun 30, 2009 7:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Pity.

I guess then option two for the M’s would be Brignac, as suggested by USSM. Maybe they’d give him up for some relief help? I really wouldn’t want any of the Cubs’ spare third basemen.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 30, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's...

doing his best Brian LaHair impression in Triple-A. He could probably put up a .250/.300/.400 line in the majors, but I wouldn’t expect anything more.

by slamcactus on Jul 1, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep pretty much

Carp is an unknown quantity and cannot be expected to hit better than league average, and his defense is… well he’s not known for his glove. Meanwhile, the club is – rightly I think – unwilling to mess with the best hitter they’ve had in a couple of years. I think it’s safe to say forget about it. There will be a better way.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jul 1, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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