Off Topic 6/2/09 - Ain't that a kick in the nadgers edition
What with the meltdown on Sunday, and the somewhat-less-meltdowny-but-still-dispiriting loss yesterday, I got to thinking. Which is always dangerous, but anyway. What is the most dispiriting loss you have seen in person, in any sport? We've all seen a million of 'em on TV, but actually being there is something completely different.
Mine was in Cardiff, Wales. The 2001 FA Cup final was a fantastic day - my friends and I made it to Cardiff from London in reasonably sober shape, the sun was out, and as soon as we got off the train we found the red half of the pubs in town (well, the Arsenal-red half anyway). We had a couple beers, then I headed out to find a ticket from one of the many local touts. I found a fantastic ticket - front row, second tier, section M19 - as it turns out, right above the goal Arsenal would be attacking in the second half. I paid...a lot...of money for this. But it was worth it.
For the 30 minutes I was in my seat before kickoff, I sat there terrified that a ticketholder with a ticket that would prove mine was a counterfeit would show up; nobody did, so once the match kicked off, I relaxed a bit. Arsenal played really well in the first half, and the match went into the break scoreless but Arsenal were looking the most likely to score.
It all kicked off in the second half, though - Thierry Henry had a couple of fantastic chances that he didn't convert, but then with about 20 min left in the match Freddie Ljungberg scored for Arsenal. GAME ON. I turned to high-five the guy sitting next to me, who had no idea what a high-five was, so he grabbed me in a big bear hug and danced around like a madman. It was awesome.
Then, disaster of disasters. Michael Goddamned Thank Fuck His Team Was Relegated That Bunch Of Twats Owen scored, equalizing with under 10 mins to go. Fine, whatever, Arsenal were more or less solid defensively so I was OK with extra time and penalties.
But NOOOOOOO. That damned little midget did it again in the 87th minute, scoring low and wide past David Seaman to win the Cup for the Kop. Or something.
And then what did I do? I sat there and watched. I listened to the transplanted Kop sing "You'll Never Walk Alone" for 10 solid minutes, which would have been awe-inspiring had I not been so angry; I watched Ljungberg and Tony Adams pick a sobbing Thierry Henry up off the Millenium Stadium pitch to collect his second-place medal. I watched all the Arsenal players and staff collect their medals. I watched Liverpool collect theirs, I watched them lift the Cup, and I watched them celebrate. Why? Because I may never get to a Cup final again in my life, and as much as it was a hot knife to the eyeballs, I wanted to take it all in. My friends, all Arsenal season-ticket holders for years, couldn't believe I watched the whole thing, but I had to.
So that's my story. What's yours?
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I have endured so many terrible sporting failures in my time that it is hard to choose but one.
I would say the most disappointing defeat as opposed to soul crushing was Manchester City 0 Southampton 1, probably back in 2003. It was our last ever game at Maine Road, our home for over 70 years and the scene of the biggest recorded attendance in British club football, 84000 back in 1934. It was a carnival atmosphere – it was nice and sunny, we had secured a nice mid table position, and everyone was looking forward to seeing off the old ground in style.
And then the team decided to take a giant, runny shit all over the assembled 34000 and turned in one of the most pathetic, dispirited snoorefests this side of Sunday’s meltdown. At the end of the game I was so angry, so upset that I stormed out without even bothering to take in the post-game festivities as they closed the old girl down.
OH SHIT! I FORGOT! HOW THE FUCK DID I FORGET THIS?!?!
1996. Euro 96. Germany Vs England, penalty shootout, sudden death, Gareth Southgate … oh shit.
1998. World Cup. Argentina Vs England, penalty shootout. David Batty … oh shit.
2004. Euro 04. Portugal Vs England, penalty shootout, sudden death. FUCK PORTUGAL … oh shit.
2006. World Cup. Portugal Vs England, penalty shootout, sudden death … SERIOUSLY, FUCK YOU CHRISTIANO RONALDO YOU FUCKING COCKMUNCH PIECE OF SHIT, I HOPE YOUR HOUSE CATCHES FIRE AND FALLS ON YOUR FUCKING SKULL.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 2, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I should add though that I find losses in tight games by the Mariners to be just as soul crushing as close losses by Man City, but England defeats are probably the worst to stomach.
Although now I am 24, the pain is not quite as bad as when I was younger and I am now fully trained to expect not only defeat, but painful defeat.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 2, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You were at the Gareth Southgate game?
Ouch
by Graham on Jun 2, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was only young, but yeah ... ouch.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 2, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brutal.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen so many grown men cry.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 2, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I bet not.
I couldn’t even watch the penalties – I left the pub and went back to work, and by the time I got there it was over. I hate penalties.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
UCLA vs. Memphis, 2008 Final Four
we came into the Final Four looking to finally get over the hump after losing to an undeniably great Florida team the past two years, and with our “great” coaching, looked to be a solid matchup for an incredibly talented but young Memphis squad.
Our strength lay on defense, with (undeserved, but still good) guard Russell Westbrook and amazing (and horrifically uncredited, ugh) forward Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. However, for all of our defensive strengths and team defensive play, it was also our greatest weakness – lead guard Darren Collison was a defensive disaster all the time (and made the Pac Ten all-defense team three years in a row!) and forward Josh Shipp… may have had trouble guarding me that year. Memphis countered our strength on defense with two fantastic scoring options, lead guard Derrick Rose and quirky swingman Chris Douglas-Roberts, both of whom had been key in leading the Tigers to a 1-loss season.
Collison’s problem all year was that opposing lead guards with good handles would wait for him to gamble, and then simply drive around him and create havoc in the lane. Bigger guards (and at 6-0, 155, they were ALL bigger than him) would just drive right through him. Derrick Rose was 6-3, 205 with a sick handle was a nightmare matchup for Collison, and 6-5, 200 lb guard Douglas-Roberts was a nightmare for Shipp, who simply could not contain opponents off the dribble, and "CDR"s favorite move was to simply drive straight at the rim and finish with a dazzling array of floaters and runners.
Thankfully, UCLA coach Ben Howland had answers waiting in Westbrook and Mbah a Moute – Westbrook, an athletic, physical defender was perfect to shut down Rose, and Mbah a Moute was noted for his ability to lock down any opponent, on or off the ball. Naturally, Howland exploited these matchups from the opening tip…
… oh wait, he played Collison on Rose and Shipp on Douglas-Roberts. Then the master of mid-game adjustments… left those two matchups alone while Westbrook and Mbah a Moute continued to dominate their individual matchups. He didn’t even change the matchups at halftime, and when he finally made the switch, it was far too late. The final nail was Collison’s final possession on Rose – Rose crossed over Collison, drove left from the top of the key, where Collison was able to force him baseline – Rose simply lowered his shoulder into Collison, bumping him back and nailed a 12-foot jumper that essentially sealed the game.
Memphis 78, UCLA 63 F
Rose – 25 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists
Douglas-Roberts – 28 points, 4 rebounds
Collison – 1-9 shooting, 2 points, 4 assists, 5 turnovers
sb – crying and screaming at TV over utter idiocy of not playing your two best defenders on their two best offensive players
The biggest kick in the nuts isn’t even that we lost the game – our opponents were an outstanding team. It’s that our curious coaching decisions gave us no chance to win at all, and wasted Kevin Love’s only appearance in the Final Four. If they take away Memphis’ Final Four banner, I am going to crush someone.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I might be wrong, but I believe we would be the only team to have to forfeit two non-consecutive Final Four appearances!
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't make me feel any better
yay! We were retroactive runners-up to Kansas instead of losing the semis!
Plus it’s absolutely retarded that Derrick Rose ever had to take the SAT in the first place when high school pretty clearly prepared him for his chosen career by it’s conclusion.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How on earth is removing a record of a past game
any sort of punishment or deterrent from doing the same thing in the future? I really don’t understand the NCAA and how it runs itself.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just FB-ed this to AC, so I might as well repost it here
I hope Memphis doesn’t forfeit the banners. Forfeiting games is the worst for everyone because not only do you guys lose those wins, but everyone else has to think “what if,” and that’s just as bad as having lost in the first place. Plus it’s just retarded anyway that he ever had to take the SAT.
Also, it just means you have to evade the rules better next time so you don’t get caught. God, I know the NCAA exists for a good reason, but some of its rules border on utter insanity.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, to me forfeiting games played years ago is utterly useless
because it doesn’t punish anyone for anything – all it says is that a result that was achieved does not exist, when in fact it did exist, and to pretend it didn’t is just ostrich-like. Punish the school for fielding an ineligible player, sure – take away a scholarship, deny the school tournaments for two years, whatever – but don’t get all self-righteous years after the fact and say the games in question didn’t exist.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Derrick Rose should be forced to take the SAT
once a week for 50 consecutive weeks as punishment.
Memphis should be required to field an all walk-on team for one season as punishment.
John Calipari should be required to return to the New Jersey Nets as punishment.
by Sec 108 on Jun 2, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or the NCAA should admit that they have no fucking proof
that Rose made his grades and stayed eligible while he was on the team, and that Calipari, despite the fact that they wanted to nail him the entire team he was at Memphis, runs a clean program and always has. Just let it the fuck go.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer to go down the road of not making sense.
Your answer appears to be well thought out which does not align itself with the NCAA and it 900lb rulebook.
by Sec 108 on Jun 2, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It just upsets me because of what you said, that you can't just arbitrarily take away an accomplishment
and it hurts other teams just as much as the one you’re trying to punish. If Derrick Rose was indeed ineligible and this gets caught before the game, does UCLA beat Memphis and Kansas to win a national title? Who knows?
And for Kansas, it cheapens their victory by making it seem like they beat a nameless opponent for the crown
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see how a school retroactively raises a championship banner out of sheer curiosity
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, now that Manny has tested positive, the Cardinals are 2004 World Champs woooooooooo
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congratulations!
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Celebration riots for everybody!
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 2, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you get named national champions in basketball, I'd assume you'd have to have some kind of banner
the NCAA isn’t just going to erase a year of history from its books
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should hunt down violations on every team that made the tourney
because I’d bet most of them played with ineligible players at some point for some technicality or the $100 handshakes they get from boosters.
Norfolk State for national champs!
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would give my soul to see the 2006 Bruins wiped out of existence
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would give my soul to see Adam Morrison cry after a devastating loss
oh wait, I can just see that for free by typing “adam morrison crying” into my Google search bar
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best moment in Sports history!
Jose Lopez roxxorz my boxxorz.
51!
by joof on Jun 2, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, I'm going to mail this idea to Paramount in anticipation of the next time Star Trek decides to do a movie based on a lazy time travel plot
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too specific
try the one where they retroactively take away a title and the crew of the Enterprise has to go back in time and rig the national championship so the offending team never wins
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meat hammer -> Luc-Richard Mbah a Moute
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mbah a Moute was my second favorite player of all time
after Arron Afflalo
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you only like players with mellifluous names?
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think they call back all the players, deck them out in hastily made hats and shirts,
then have them spray each other with Miller lite?
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope this doesn't happen until 30 years after the fact when all the players are old
also, I hope SI releases a championship DVD right afterwards
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh
We’ve all seen a million of ’em on TV, but actually being there is something completely different.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm awful at reading
plus plane tickets were expensive =(
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, I was despondent for days after that game
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it's still a nutpunch
but for me I’ve seen so many games that break my heart on TV I’m somewhat inured to it. It’s always worse in person.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the 2001 Mariners get absolutely dominated by Steve Sparks.
Which doesn’t sound like a big deal, but I was 18, still lived in Olympia and had never been to a game at Safeco before. I was working 70 hour weeks scrubbing toilets and cleaning carpets, usually seven days a week. I had to ask for the half day off weeks in advance and knowing I could go to that game was the only thing that kept me from drinking a bottle of floor stripper. So to have those expectations and then lose to the fucking Tigers, not only lose but watch Freddy give a leadoff HR and have that be enough, was a kick in the teeth.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 12:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hawks/Eagles in Husky Stadium, first game after 9/11gate
aka the game that exposed Chris McIntosh as a first-round bust. I had never seen a more clueless offense, totally bewildered by Philly’s blitzing scheme. Hass gets sacked like eleventy times. Dilfer chants by the third quarter. Most of the Seattle fans fled by the third quarter, so we were surrounded by rowdy Iggles fans who wanted to fight now that they outnumbered us. No beer (Husky Stadium). A thouroughly dispiriting game. I think this was also the game where Holmgren said the fans can go eff themselves.
by waldo rojas on Jun 2, 2009 12:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I haven't had any major heartbreak at a game
probably because I haven’t been to any postseason games. However, I did suffer a bit of heartbreak in screwing up a ticket order, thus causing me to miss game 5 of the 2005 ALDS versus the Yankees. When they went on sale, the site got slammed. I got in line for two decent tickets, and it said I had a 15 minute wait until I could get to the purchase screen due to the high volume. Thinking the nicer tickets might sell out in that time, I grab nosebleed seats in another tab as a backup. When time comes to purchase, Ticketmaster says that I’m trying to cheat the system and am only allowed to wait for one pair, fuck you. And so I get none.
I missed this:

angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 12:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My only post-season game was the 2000 ALCS
a friend’s father had 4 season tickets in those days, and as game three was a matinee, two of his children couldn’t get off work, so I benefited….
by msb on Jun 2, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at game 2 of the 2001 ALCS
And I don’t wanna talk about it.
by OlSalty on Jun 2, 2009 12:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Post running team in the Army, we trained like madmen for the Army Ten Miler in Washington, DC.
We were good, really good as in we had a shot at the title. At the last minute we get a new lieutenant, he makes us run in formation. Espris de corps and all that shit, I wanted to strangle him. Legitimate contenders to instant also rans, I didn’t bother picking up the t-shirt.
by Kermit. on Jun 2, 2009 12:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just read this, so I'm getting the image of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scheisskopf
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.. Right there on the first baseline for me.
That was fun. :-(
by seattlesundevil on Jun 2, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was out in the far outfield bleachers
Just as painful there.
by msb on Jun 2, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also on the first base line
happy as an 11 year old attending a Mariners game at the shiny new stadium could be.
Jose Mesa is partially responsible for the cynicism that lasted over my entire teenage years.
I forgot how much that game sucked
by pmc47 on Jun 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel a stab in my chest whenever I look at the oversized memorial ticket stub I got from that game.
That made what should’ve been one of the greatest days in Mariner history (even a blowout loss would’ve preserved that) into one of the worst in Mariners history. It epitomized four years of bullpen pain.
by Decatur on Jun 2, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure?
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by tootthekazoo on Jun 2, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
welcome to my FA Cup nightmare
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
October 21st, 2006 in Evanston, Illinois.
Michigan State takes the opening possession down the field for a field goal. Northwestern takes the kickoff, marches down the field, and scores. NU forces a punt, marches down the field and scores. MSU 3 and out, Northwestern field goal. 5 and out, Northwestern touchdown. This game continued in this fashion until the score stood at 38-3 with about 25 minutes of football left to play.
Then, this happened.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've never seen a more shellshocked group of fans.
We weren’t even that good in 2006, but come the fuck on.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the 2003 Apple Cup ended with me throwing my chair down a hallway
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friend punched the mirror off his car that night.
I was stunned to the point of paralysis; otherwise I would have found something to break in half.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always mix up '02 and '03
But if I recall the Huskies fucking blew that year and that game took us from National Title game hopeful to out of the BCS in one afternoon!
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that was '02.
We were No. 3 in the nation and UW was bad, but Gesser went down and then Kegel took a big dump over everything. Triple overtime and a questionable (but not terrible) call against the Cougs to pretty much end the game.
The next year I believe we were in the Top 10 again, but then this.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I broke my friend's bed that night with the victory bunny hops!
by Robert on Jun 2, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was his mother's bed so I don't understand how I could have possibly missed that.
by Robert on Jun 2, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe someone gave you a beer then raped you while you were asleep.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought alcohol was evil at that point of my teenage years.
by Robert on Jun 2, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, it really was that long ago.
I’m still sobering up from that night.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
95 Sonics/Nugs Game 5 also destroyed my will to live.
No, Not in Our House!
by waldo rojas on Jun 2, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough question.
What game in 2000 did Clemens shut us out in the ALCS? That one sticks out as does game 6 of the 1995 ALCS.
by Sec 108 on Jun 2, 2009 1:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Game 4, guess Paul Abbott decided not to bring his lucky charms to the game that night. Shutout. I hated that guy
by Kermit. on Jun 2, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The one that pissed me off was game '01. We start Sele and go to Halama.
Joel Piniero and Franklin had been lights out in long relief all year, and hadn’t hardly been touched that series. Why not three inning apiece, go to the bullpen. I really didn’t like either Sele or Halama. Maybe I’m thinking of Bread and Water, or was ’01 the year he fell apart?
by Kermit. on Jun 2, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dad was at that game
I believe it was a 1 hitter
My Mariners blog - SodoMojo
by gregrabble on Jun 4, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
August 2003
The Mariners, up 3 games in the division over Oakland (and 4 games ahead of Boston), travel to play the Red Sox for a four-game set. As I was attending college in Boston at the time and almost never got to see the M’s play live, I managed to get tickets to all four games (this was when it was still possible to get decently priced Red Sox tickets).
As I’m sure everyone knows at this point, the Red Sox swept the four-game series, pushing the M’s down into a first-place tie for the division and the wildcard at a time when the A’s were in the midst of a ten-game winning streak and a 20-9 month of August. Needless to say, this was the last time the M’s were in first place that season, and they missed the playoffs with 93 wins for the second straight year, finishing 3 back of Oakland and 2 back of the Red Sox. And I watched it all fall apart.
by patsfan on Jun 2, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No lollablueza comments?
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not enough at stake for that to be a nutpunch
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
at least not for me
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not only does Trader Joe's have 9.99 Chimay Blue, they also have 7.99 Chimay Red and 7.99 Duvel.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to Trader Joe's later
this thread is depressing me.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go now before they are sold out
on top of all this, that might send you over the edge.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, abender's been talking about this for a few weeks.
I think I’m safe
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
until he goes and buys it all
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
see?
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fortunately for sb, I'd have to drive ~100 miles in traffic just to spite him.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I've already proven my beer benevolence.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That Pipeline was the best beer I've had in weeks
and was a fantastic addition to my beer wall (I only started the wall after the NCAAs)
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, tell me about Chimay.
I saw some at my local store.
by msb on Jun 2, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a delicious Belgian ale widely available in three varieties.
Red is nice Belgian strong, Blue is similar but darker and white is a Golden. Red is my favorite of the three.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check THIS price tag...
Just cracked that baby open on Saturday. Deeeeeee. Liiiiiii. SHUUUUUUUS!!!
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jun 2, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1997
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jun 2, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That explains the price.
I don’t have the patience to wait 12 years for beer. Also, in 1997 I was 11, so there’s that.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it was $10 back then, too...
And MUCH harder to find.
This signature space for rent.
by PositivePaul on Jun 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sure explains the 1.99 price tag!
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's the last of my "decade" stash...
I’ve got a 2004 ale that I bought to celebrate Edgar’s HOF induction — bought it the last day he played. Hopefully I won’t have to age that one too much longer…
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by PositivePaul on Jun 2, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap that looks nice on a hot day,
plus my computer just staggered as well. I need an upgrade, but I spent all my money on parking to get my family into the overpriced M’s games so I could pay $8.50 a bottle for domestic beer.
by Kermit. on Jun 2, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You should have stopped having kids after you hit a neat Baker's dozen.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Different pricing or just no stock?
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
$11.99
They had $2.99 Double Chocolate Stout though.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 4, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And one thing we've got that you can't get at Trader Joe's in CA:
Chimay Blue in 1.5l magnums:

I’m tempted, but it’s a chunk of change. Maybe for an LL event.
by marc w on Jun 4, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
You’d get 1/4 of the way through it and then pass out.
by Matthew on Jun 4, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of nutpunches
Is there some sort of WE chart that lets us know who is more likely to win the cockpunch/mod bet?
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It shouldn't be too hard to come up with a probability model based on the team's Pythag and put it on a time curve
in fact, this might be kind of a fun project
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And no, replying with a chart that shows Jeff at 100% odds 100% of the time is not a clever response
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm actually considering doing this
but I’m a little confused as how to find the standard deviation for expected wins which would allow me to create a day-by-day probability chart
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Caller just bitched that his biggest sports complaint is the cost of going to games at Safeco ... that to take his wife & 4 kids, get "decent" seats, buy the kids a hot dog each plus parking, he's looking at $400.
Apparently “decent seats” are terrace club or better.
by msb on Jun 2, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
When people bitch about the price of parking I want to stab them in the eye.
Also, if you go on a Grand Slam Family pack night you can get all of those things -parking for $40.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently there is no free parking anywhere in Western Washington though so there's that
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
People that bitch about the cost of parking would never dream of taking a train or bus to a game
so I really couldn’t give less of a shit if they’re stupid enough to pay $40 to park in the Home Plate garage.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I fell ass backward into free parking on a Sunday morning once.
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free parking on Sundays is easy as pie to find.
If it’s that big of a deal drop the wife and kids off at the stadium, go park the car two blocks away and make the little fuckers walk after the game.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he shouldn't have a retardedly large family if he's poor
by Graham on Jun 2, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ding ding ding
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said he'd go a couple of times over the summer if it didn;t cost so much.
Are his kids really going to sit in their seats all game? Buy bleacher seats, bring lunch, go for the slightly more expensive parking is you don;t want to walk too far with the kids.
by msb on Jun 2, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or learn to love the 300 level seats right behind home that you can get for $20 a pop
also, you’re buying six tickets to a professional sporting event. What do you expect to happen?!
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love those seats.
There is also taking your family for a fun time to the Rainiers or AquaSox.
by msb on Jun 2, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is a fantastic idea
I have a friend who, even though he’s a self-professed big baseball fan, refuses to go to minor league games because “it’s not real baseball”. He apparently thinks major league ballplayers grow on vines somewhere in Kansas or something, and I firmly believe it’s because he never went to minor league games as a kid.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't give a shit about minor league baseball and would rather save up to see the big leaguers
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Players I've seen play at Avista in the last 4 years (keeping in mind I am home so rarely that I see about 1 Indians game a year)
Taylor Teagarden, Engel Beltre, John Mayberry Jr., Julio Borbon, Neftali Feliz, Chris Davis, etc etc
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a big minor-league game person either, even though I love baseball
it’s something about the exhibitionism of being at such a big stadium and taking it all in, all the people, etc. Of course, I also don’t complain about ticket prices, since I’m lucky enough just to be able to watch 10-12 games a year
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love them both for completely different reasons
but my family was somewhat poor for a good portion of my childhood so we went to a fair amount of Rainiers games.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was once molested by Rhubarb.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope it was a lady inside.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's maybe a matter of perspective as well.
For little kids, they don’t know the difference. Plus the minors seem to focus on family involvement a bit more, and the costs are lower. Seems to be a pretty good way to get my kids interested in baseball for a lot less money.
by Kermit. on Jun 2, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my thing
If I had little kids, I would take them to minor league ball a ton just because it’s a ton of fun for them – and when they get older, they’ll still appreciate the fun part and not feel that if they can’t get the $60 seats above the dugout the game’s not worth going to.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really something for them to get an autograph at the fence, and then see the guy take the field.
They don’t know any better anyway.
by Kermit. on Jun 2, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is also why I would take kids to spring training
they don’t care that the autograph they just got was from some 19 year old who will never make it past short-season A ball. They got the autograph of a Mariner! That’s awesome.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I used to love going to Spokane Indians games.
Sure, there are more errors and the pitchers throw 89, but… oh that’s a lot like Mariners baseball.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My first baseball game was a Boise Hawks game, and it's one of my earliest memories.
There’s something about minor league baseball that’s comforting. I need to get up to Adelanto.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just go to Lake Elsinore, it's way closer
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Future Padres are even more boring than real Padres.
But yeah, I’ll wait until a day when High Desert is visiting. I’m really excited to go watch Aumont pitch a majestic, shut-down 8th inning.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or go on family night or grand slam family pack night!
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes people's schedules dictate when they can/can't go to games
so I understand having to pay regular price for tickets.
Also, you can get tickets pretty cheap on StubHub
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Mariners are offering a way to get cheap tickets.
If he can’t get out of work to take them family to a game that’s not their fault. I understand that having a large family is hard but no one held a gun to his head and forced him to impregnate his wife four times.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't know this for sure
no one held a gun to his head and forced him to impregnate his wife four times.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well if someone were telling be to be a father or die I'd just go ahead and take one for humanity.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He may have impregnated his wife once, and his wife's uterus got all uppity and made four kids.
Jose Lopez roxxorz my boxxorz.
51!
by joof on Jun 2, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's weird that I go on these strange conservative rants when it comes to baseball.
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate people who expect the world to stop for them because they fucked without birth control.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't give any amusing response to this without getting into trouble
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah subthread closed maybe?
Veering into dangerous territory.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate kids and I hate people who want me to give a shit about their kids.
It’s not political at all. Kids suck.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kids don't suck
Parents that don’t know how to raise kids suck.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To steal from a wise man
My feeling is that kids are like any other group of people a few winners, a lot of losers.
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most kids suck.
Most people suck. Kids are little people with more annoying habits.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tend to exempt little kids from "people suck" though
because they don’t know any better. Which of course means it’s up to their parents to teach them how not to suck, and this is where the model falls apart.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like to simplify for efficiency's sake,
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So when we try and try and try to teach Felix not to throw predictable fastballs and he doesn't listen it's not really his fault?
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nurture vs nature research tends to think it's not really up to the parents, actually.
Not sure how much I buy it, but
by Matthew on Jun 2, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I buy it to some extent
I just don’t know how the hell you possibly control such an experiment.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure I buy it either (having not really read any of the research)
it just seems that a kid is so dependent on his/her parents for cues that it can’t help but be a factor.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I think, but the latest consensus seems to be that it's the peer group that vastly influences behavior.
Though I might say that parents help shape the peer group.
by Matthew on Jun 2, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my point with it
I think a parent’s influence shapes the kid into being the type to choose a peer group that fits the child’s personality. If you do a shitty job raising your kid then he’ll pick other shitty kids to hang out with, and they’ll do shitty stuff.
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 2, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The #1 rule of LoL is to not to piss Jeff off and I feel I have finally gotten the hang of that two years later.
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What arer you talking about you've only been here for like 3 weeks
by Graham on Jun 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Calling it LoL seems like it might violate that one rule.
by Matthew on Jun 2, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just don't attach a cat to it and it might sneak by
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm glad someone someone enjoyed the irony!
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to start calling you the Anti-Robert.
by Matthew on Jun 2, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of a Trebor
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or, I guess treboR
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now someone else chimes in that you are speding $50 for a mediocre seats and $30 for a beer and dog.
I feel like we are going to some other stadium.
by msb on Jun 2, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
These are the same people that complain about the price of concessions at movie theatres
and still buy a large popcorn, large soda and candy. But it’s worse because you can get better hot dogs outside for $3 and there are about a million bars within walking distance of Safeco.
by acblue on Jun 2, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scalp your kids outside of the stadium, then use the proceeds to drink like crazy in your top-notch seats.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It has occurred to me that there are two distinct possible connotations
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be willing to pay at least $20 to scalp random children
by Graham on Jun 2, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why not just lance them in the face while on a horse?
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would be willing to pay at least $2,000 to ride down a fleeing child
by Graham on Jun 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
I'm pretty sure renting a horse would cost far less than that
but once you factor in equipment you may get close to $2k.
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You also need to find a place that sells children
50!
by joof on Jun 5, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or just go to your local preschool.
Nobody watches the special needs children anyways.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Jun 5, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 2, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
really only one as there's no adequate disposal/hazmat facilities right around Safeco
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They would make a nifty toupe for Bill Bavasi
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's irrelevant to me now so he can put whatever he wants on his head for all I care
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've had this discussion and agreed
The cost would be more like a hundred dollars if you weren’t spending you money like Tom Hicks on shore leave 10 years ago
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So assuming that parking is $20, and hot dogs are $5 each, thats $360 spent on six tickets or $60 a ticket
$60 tickets at Safeco are either Terrace or Lower Box.
Seriously, if you have enough money to afford those tickets for your family, you don’t get to complain about the costs of going to games.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has this fucker never heard of Cheezburger Night?
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 2, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My regret is that they don't have a 1300 pixel version of the promotional ad
because tiling the small one across my desktop feels like a compromise
by Poochie on Jun 2, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he says it in the article (too lazy to read)
but it’s unfair to point to those “what if” losses and neglect talking about unexpected wins.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But getting kicked in the nuts always hurts more than winning unexpectedly feels good
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right but he's not just talking about how they feel
but about how easily the Mariners could be in contention right now. A bloop single falls in against you, and you point to that and say if only. But you don’t subtract the bloop single that won the game for the Ms the next week?
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I guess, but I think it’s also fair to say that we’ve gotten kicked in the nuts more this year than truly unexpected victories
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've had a few games we should have won all along (like the 15 inning Oakland game)
and then straight up miracles like Saturday night
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or how about Shields throwing the ball away?
I’m sure there are a few more.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah, that one!
seems like our miracles have happened against the Angels this year for some reason.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How was that a miracle?
Otherwise it’s a runner on third one out with a run to win.
by Graham on Jun 2, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't calling it a miracle.
Just that the M’s have won a few games on lucky breaks, just like every MLB team.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And besides this is the Mariners
runner on third, no out? No runs.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I'm probably preaching to the choir here.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Petit 'beat Ichiro's throw'?
Really?
Really?
by Graham on Jun 2, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JESUS CHRIST.
And it’s only June 2…
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 2, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone following E3?
Sony and Microsoft have announced motion controlling peripherals.
It looks like Microsoft’s Natal allows for full-body tracking without the need for some kind of a tracking tag. Sony’s requires you to hold two light-up dildos.
by BrianL on Jun 2, 2009 1:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Still no price cuts for Sony's console
and their new PSP has gotten even more expensive.
by BrianL on Jun 2, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My friend Chris is working on a game called MAG
and it looks really fun!
by royalcurve on Jun 2, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Morrow's ready!

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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Those are my recs for using existing material in new and exciting ways.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was never in it to win it.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you added flashing lights and played it at 300% speed
this would make a great DRB Win gif.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RJ DRB Tampa Bay Rays
See if that trips his RSS feed.
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Full-game DLs!
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Jun 2, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw the Microsoft thing.
Interesting, but I’m not sure I want to spend $200 on an accessory that will let me dance around like an idiot. I’ll wait and see, because it could easily be fantastic, but chances are I won’t care.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the potential behind Microsoft's Natal is huge
but it’s going to take a ton of work from both the hardware and software devs to pull it off. They need to get someone other than Peter Molyneaux on board to make it happen.
by BrianL on Jun 2, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More to the point re:Molyneux
They can’t use a (stunning and awesome) tech demo as the only thing to really push the hardware from jump. I also don’t think that pricing it at $200 would be a wise idea. I will reserve any judgment on actual use and application of the hardware until things get more fleshed out. Right now it’s just a proof of concept with prototype hardware, though with tons of promise
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 2, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In other E3 news...
We can all buy Final Fantasy VII! …Again!
Available for purchase on PSN.
by BrianL on Jun 2, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pffft
In other E3 news…
We can all buy The Secret of Monkey Island!
The original game is being re-tooled right on top of the original code, and will now include full audio dialog featuring the original voice actors from The Curse of Monkey Island, including Dominic Armato reprising his role as the voice of Guybrush Threepwood. This is so far my most anticipated game from E3
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 2, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
2005 Ronde van Vlaanderen
I was a big Erik Zabel fan at the time (because of his 96-01 run at the Tour de France) and he was looking to be in a good shape coming into the last few hundred meters. His domestique was setting a really good pace when all of a sudden Tom Boonen (who didn’t have any of his team anywhere near him) launched a solo attack that no one even bothered to chase down, because no one thought he had any chance of keeping his lead over Klier’s pace.
I was a the finish line, and I heard the cheers getting closer and closer, so I turned to watch the pack come around the corner and see Zabel smoke everyone in the sprint…
Then Boonen came rolling around the corner with no one else in sight and coasted across the finish line, sitting up in his seat a good half minute before the rest of the pack. I wanted to leap out and tackle him off his bike for robbing me of seeing in a sprint finish in the ONLY RONDE VAN VLAANDEREN I’LL PROBABLY EVER SEE IN PERSON.
Thanks Tom, it was great.
by Vatinius on Jun 2, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh I just noticed that there is a Morrow bobblehead night this year.
When will teams learn not to announce which players will be featuring on bobblehead night months before it actually takes place?
I’d love to get my hands on a load of them and microwave them into oblivion.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 2, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Griffey bobblehead too!
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by Eyebrows on Jun 2, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It bobbles a lot less than it did 10 years ago
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by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I can't stop laughing about this:
LA JOLLA — Don’t let the dogs out — at least not yet.
That’s the latest dictum from U.S. District Court Judge William Hayes, who said yesterday that his temporary restraining order preventing harassment or dispersal of the seal colony at Children’s Pool beach in La Jolla remains in force.
San Diego officials, under orders from Superior Court Judge Yuri Hofmann, announced a plan May 22 to use the amplified sounds of barking dogs to scare away the seals.
Councilwoman Sherri Lightner, whose district includes La Jolla, then suggested using real dogs — an idea that met stiff criticism from hundreds of residents. She has scheduled a news conference for this afternoon to discuss the issue.
In 1931, state law designated Children’s Pool as a beach for human swimmers, but it’s now home to about 200 harbor seals who foul the area with their feces. Under a 2005 Superior Court ruling, the city is supposed to reduce the bacterial contamination so the site can be returned to human use.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 2:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
3/23/2008 (Easter Sunday): Davidson 74, Georgetown 70
I’ve attended NCAA Tourney games in North Carolina before. Predictably, they’re dominated by UNC fans whenever the Tar Heels are playing there (which seems to be every year.) Winston-Salem 2007, lots of Tar Heels fans rooting for Belmont and Boston College to knock Georgetown, the 2 seed opposite UNC’s #1, out. We got our revenge in East Rutherford, NJ that year in, coincidentally, the best game I’ve ever seen in person.
After the 2007 Final Four run, the Hoyas brought back four of the five rising seniors, with the exception of Jeff Green. Entered the NCAA as Big East regular season champions, Big East Tourney runners-up, 28-5 with the only losses to Memphis, Pitt (x2), Louisville, and Syracuse. Coasted past UMBC to set up a meeting with Davidson. Right after the GU-UMBC game, I watched Curry score 40 on Gonzaga and was slightly perturbed. Nevertheless, we were the Big East juggernaut with almost all the same players as the Final Four team, so no piddly SoCon team and their anorexic-looking SG was going to scare us, right?
The thing about going to NCAA Tourney games in Carolina is that UNC fans love the underdog, especially when they would rather see the other top team in the pod knocked out. So this was my sixth time seeing UNC fans throw all of their weight behind our opponent (twice in W-S 2007, twice more in East Rutherford 2007, and the second time in Raleigh 2008). But now our opponent happens to be from 150 miles away, which means anyone and everyone from that little liberal-arts school is showing up at the RBC Center.
For 22 minutes, this game was great, another chance to show up those Carolina blue-wearing assclowns and make another Sweet 16. Curry was held to five points in the first half, and didn’t look like the same guy who had just dropped 40 two days prior. With 18 minutes left in the game, the lead’s at 17. The next 18 minutes were the most painful I have ever seen live, only tied with Game 6 of the 1995 ALCS as my most tragic sports memory. Roy Hibbert wasn’t allowed to a goddamn thing without getting called for a foul, rendering GU’s best center since Mutombo useless, fouling out after only 16 minutes of play and 6 points. And Curry, as he is wont to do, scored 25 in the second half.
The stats from that game are ridiculous: Georgetown shot 63.4% from the field (55.6% from 3) to Davidson’s 38.6% (21.4%). But a combination of fouls and turnovers meant that Davidson took 16 more shots than the Hoyas, and 13 additional FTs (to be fair, Georgetown was an abysmal 8-17 from the line). Davidson took the lead with 4 minutes to play and held on for the most exasperating, soul-crushing four minutes of basketball I’ve ever seen, and when it was over I walked to the bus silently for the ride back to campus. The drive from Raleigh to DC is about five hours, and it was absolutely silent for the first two and a half until someone punctuated the silence with a loud “FUCK!” and the swearing and crying commenced.
by pmc47 on Jun 2, 2009 2:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Santa Clara handing Gonzaga their first loss ever in the new Kennel two years ago.
We’d won 50 straight at home. We’d won every game in the new arena to that point, years’ worth (38). That Santa Clara team wasn’t any good. We would’ve won if Heytvelt hadn’t gotten caught with ’shrooms.
I’d elaborate, but I’ve blocked out the details like it was some horribly scarring childhood memory. I’ll deal it with in therapy some day.
by SethGrandpa on Jun 2, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Before I forget
Pechanga is having a microbrew festival June 20th. Tickets are $40 and include food, sampler glass and all-you-can-drink samples. Looks to be a decent brewer turnout, though AleSmith is conspicuously absent.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Aside from Alesmith, that's still a pretty good list.
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And it should be fun to try some SD/Riverside/Orange county smaller brewers that we don't hear so much about
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although grumble grumble driving to Temecula grumble grumble
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've driven from UCLA to Temecula in an hour and ten minutes
you can do it
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait a second, it's 100 miles to Temecula from my house (near UCLA).
You averaged 85 (including a handful of miles on surface streets)?
by abender20 on Jun 2, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mid day
also, looking at the list, looks like it’s basically SoCal breweries only. Off the top of my head, Bear Republic appears to be the only NorCal one, which would explain the absence of Russian River, Anderson Valley, etc.
by seattlebruin on Jun 2, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks fun, but I'll be out of town.
Same reason I have to miss the M’s-Padres series. :( But I’m going to the Bahamas for free, so I won’t complain.
by Teej on Jun 2, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anybody see the free Built to Spill show on Friday?
It was at the UW and Martsch and crew totally wailed. Best guitar performance I’ve seen yet. Ra Ra Riot was a good opener and the best part is the it was completely FREE. Great great show.
Current listening enjoyments: Grizzly Bear, Manchester Orchestra, The Morning Benders
by Woodinville_12thMan on Jun 2, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't tell if...
The Be Good Tanyas track titled “Dogsong #2”
is a melodic/rhythmic rip off of Palace Music’s “We All, Us Three, Will Ride”
Can any musicologists confirm/deny. Warning: both tracks severely lack testosterone, so don’t go researching unless you dig mellow.
by johnbai on Jun 2, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nadgers? we don't need no stinking nadgers
"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713
by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 2, 2009 6:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You can have your European champions, Sounders exhibition schedule...
Portland gets…Burnley FC! That’s right, the mighty, newly promoted and hungry for blood Burnley come to PGE Park in July to show the Timbers Army….uh…..something. It’ll be the beginning of a fierce rivalry that will last until the Timbers turn into an MLS team and want to play the Chelseas and Barcelonas of the world.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 2, 2009 9:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
But you have F*CK Seattle Sounders scarves!
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 4, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't wait to be able to use them in MLS
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got one: May 17, 1996: Chris Hoiles hits a 3-2, 2 out grand slam off Norm Charlton in the bottom of the 9th to beat the Mariners 14-13.
Here’s the Boxscore.
This game was what taught me that frustration, futility, and despair are bigger part of baseball than the triumphs and glories. It also set the tone for the catastrophic bullpen work that would define the next four years of Mariner baseball.
The first baseball game I ever went in my life to was Game 3 of the 1995 ALDS (when I was in third grade). Neither my dad nor I had ever had the slightest interest in baseball before September 1995, but my dad bought playoff tickets because, with the Mariners set to move away, he figured it would be the first/last/only time we would ever see playoff baseball in Seattle). I fell in love with baseball after going to those six playoff games at the Kingdome in 1995. I sobbed like only a child with a broken heart can after we lost Game 6. But I realized even then that there was something cathartic, beautiful, and special about that season – this was a loss that had meaning. I’m glad we lost in a way, because my dad was able to teach me the most beautiful thing about baseball: “there’s always next year.”
The Hoiles grand slam taught me that sometimes there is no meaning or reason in loss – sometimes God just treats you like Job just for the hell of it. The ultimate grand slam – the walk-off GS to win the game by one run – has only happened 23 times. The cliché ultimate grand slam – the 3-2, 2 out, bottom of the 9th, down by three grand slam – has happened between 3 and 14 times (not sure how to figure out how many exactly). That makes it even rarer than a perfect game (17 times).
As a little kid, it’s hard sometimes to realize that storybook endings in baseball require someone on the losing side, too – and gaining that wisdom was perhaps the most painful moment I’ve ever had as a baseball fan – the only things that might be worse are the two decided losses to the Yankees in the 2000 and 2001 ALCS playoffs.
The Orioles knocked Bob Wolcott (the hero of Game 1 of the 1995 ALCS) out in the third inning, and the Mariners were down 7-2 after 3 innings. Then, in the top of the sixth, the Mariners got two runs against Arthur Rhodes (yes, Arthur Rhodes) and knocked him out before he retired a batter. Then the Mariners got two more runs that inning to make in 7-6 Orioles. Then in the bottom of the 7th, some scrub I don’t even remember named Scott Davidson gave up a two-run homer to Rafael Palmeiro to give the Orioles a 9-6 lead. Then in the top of the 8th, after a Dan Wilson RBI single, A-Rod hit a grand slam to give the Mariners an 11-9 lead. Seriously, this game felt as wild and fun as this year’s May 3 15-inning game against the A’s. Ripkin hit a solo home run in the bottom of the 8th to make it 11-10, but it didn’t matter – we had this game won as soon as "the Sheriff" Norm Charlton came in with 2 outs in the 8th. The two insurance runs we got in the 9th seemed superfluous with the Sheriff pitching. Then, in the bottom of the 9th:
Roberto Alomar: Walk
Rafael Palmeiro: strikeout
Bobby Bonilla: Double, Alomar to 3rd
Billy Ripkin: Foul popout
Cal Ripkin: Walk (AUGH! NOT MORE WALKS!)
INTERLUDE OF UNBEARABLE DREAD
Chris Hoiles: 3-2, 2 outs, game-winning Grand Slam. The Orioles’ crowd goes “The Double” crazy.
After I hit that, I remember leaping into my mother’s arms and, weeping, telling her: "It’s not FAIR! We DESERVED to win that game!" Oh, the innocence of youth.
by Decatur on Jun 2, 2009 10:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I've got two, and they are both WSU basketball related
From my freshman year. Stanford comes in undefeated, ranked #1. Cougs have a five point lead with about 28 seconds left and manage to lose on a fadeaway 28 footer at the buzzer by Matt Lotich. The agony was magnified when UW beat Stanford two days later and Lotich couldn’t hit a shot.
From my senior year, I drove to Sacramento for NCAA tournament. The Cougs lead pretty much the entire game against Vandy in the second round. I was sitting behind the bench and Daven Harmeling missed a three to win right in front of me at the end of regulation. We ended up losing in two overtimes. It was my last basketball game as a student. Afterwards I drove 14 hours overnight back to Pullman.
Now I’m moving to Nashville in August because my lady’s master’s program is at….Vanderbilt.
I never really liked the old tagline.
CougCenter
by Dancing Football on Jun 2, 2009 10:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nashville is a fun city though...
and Vandy has a nice campus…so it’s not all that bad.
TouchMyIchiro
by brayden04 on Jun 2, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I'm excited for the move
I just have this fear that I will start rooting for Vandy.
I never really liked the old tagline.
CougCenter
by Dancing Football on Jun 3, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha yeah...
Rooting for Vandy in the SEC is sorta like rooting for WSU in the PAC-10
TouchMyIchiro
by brayden04 on Jun 3, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's more like Montana being added to the PAC-10 and rooting for Montana.
by acblue on Jun 3, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reed is nuclear so I wouldn't mess with them.
by waldo rojas on Jun 4, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a good school. Super intellectual kids.
by Taylor H on Jun 4, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Super intellectual kids that inevitably end up going nuts.
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that's different from most other colleges alright.
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I've heard that it's especially high there
by Taylor H on Jun 4, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd imagine there's more recreational drug use and less binge drinking.
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any reason for that? (Not being sarcastic)
by Taylor H on Jun 4, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dutch hashish "spacecakes" become chicken friendly
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So there's a lot of chick drug abuse then?
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hippies, lack of frat boys/sorority girls.
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a reasonable explanation for inflated levels of recreational drug use.
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reed has an institutional culture that accepts and condones rampant drug use as well
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Windows 7 to be released October 22nd.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 3, 2009 1:34 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Back in the olden days
Soccer teams in England had slogans which were bold statements of intent, like:
Arsenal: Victoria Concordia Crescit (Victory Through Harmony)
Tottenham: Audere et Facere (To Dare Is To Do)
Blackburn Rovers: Arte Et Labore (By Art And By Labour)
Now, when a team signs a new shirt sponsorship deal, they release a statement like
“We look forward to being closely aligned with the world leader in risk management,”
which it could be said falls somewhat short of the St. Crispin’s Day speech, as far as rousing the fanbase goes. Still, I guess it’s a relief that I’m no longer a sponsor of Manchester United.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 3, 2009 1:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just read about the Paulista Corinthians
Who in the 1980s put voting slogans on their kit to encourage the resurgence of democracy in Brasil.
I’m ok with my team promoting a children’s hospital.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 4, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So apparently JJ has been demoted to 7th inning duties by the Mets as a result of his suckage.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 3, 2009 2:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
And yet Geoff Baker insists that Luis Valbuena was the throw-in to that deal
also, I’m still trying to figure out what the Indians got of value besides Valbuena. Seems like a pretty crappy return for Gutierrez
by seattlebruin on Jun 3, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it just me or if you balance the scales on Adam Jones and Gutierrez as individuals, they're pretty close right?
I’ll defer to people that have watched Jones play the field, and those with metric minded talent. Just seems like you tally up Gutz defense vs. Jones, and what they contribute at the plate, it’s pretty close. Wonderful acquisition, can’t say enough about Gutz.
Also, I think losing Jones broke Niehaus’ heart a little bit.
by Kermit. on Jun 3, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gutz is not anywhere close to Jones.
The difference in defense is way closer than the difference in offense.
by acblue on Jun 3, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, now I'm glad I asked.
Apparently I’m placing too much emphasis on Gutz defensive wizardry.
by Kermit. on Jun 3, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think you are, honestly - I think you're underselling Adam Jones
Adam Jones is a really, really good centerfielder
by seattlebruin on Jun 3, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe. I definitely question my bias as I was pretty stoked about Adam Jones.
And also how much I like his bat and how that effects my impression of his defense. One thing I’ve noticed about baseball is people frequently translate offensive prowess to overall success as a player, and push their estimation of defensive abilities up. So I try and catch myself, in this case impartiality is probably an impossibility for me.
If it were a scale, I’ve got Gutz defense a couple full measures above Jones, and Jones bat the same over Gutz. I’d place a bit more weight to the offense, so Jones comes out ahead, but not by so much that I think they are players of different calibers. Personally I think they close in value, with Jones having the advantage. I just haven’t seen enough of Jones in the outfield this year, so I’m likely overrating Gutz. And maybe underselling Jones. Like it really matters in the grand scheme
by Kermit. on Jun 4, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In sb's head, the only difference between Utley and Lopez is that Lopez hits righty and his middle name is Celestino.
Bias is all we have in this crazy world of Joses and Chases and Adams and Frabklins. That, and Statcorner/Fangraphs.
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Utley > Lopez
and Lopez >>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else. Utley has pop, defense, and was a great college player for a great college program.
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Clement for trade!
(don’t ban me!)
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dave seemed wholly unimpressed by Jones when he wore an M's uniform.
As, of course, did 95% of M’s fans, including most of the people who now hurl invective at Bavasi for the trade.
(Not quite as bad as Choo, who Dave seemed to think was some sort of Special Olympian, and who nearly 100% of fans thought was a career MiLB guy).
by marc w on Jun 4, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really? There were a few times in the booth in '06 and '07 he'd mention Jones down in minors, and then when he was up the team.
He’d say stuff to the effect that ‘this kid was really something’, or ’he’s going to be special’, like that. With that warm fatherly tone he used for Jr. Guess I just remember it differently.
by Kermit. on Jun 4, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats what I recall, and the impression Adam made on everyone with his personality and work ethic...
by msb on Jun 4, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I forgot about the rest of that, Dave really liked those points. He's really filled out too!
Looks good on him, he’s looks more confident out there. I forgot he started out as an infielder until SB mentioned it.
by Kermit. on Jun 4, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jones flashed great range in Seattle, but he was still learning the outfield
and for some reason ended up with a case of the dropsies in Seattle. Now he’s just awesome
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was the dropsies more than anything.
That and his ‘06 and ’07 seasons left him with a combined OBP below .300.
Yes, the team and announcers had been hyping him a lot, but then he came up and didn’t INSTANTLY slug .500 and a lot of (stupid) people thought he was a bust. I think Niehaus saw the crappy batting average and the dropsies and wondered if he had the concentration/dedication to make it.
by marc w on Jun 4, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
JOSH BECKETT HAS A NO HITTER NO HITTER NO HITTER!
I SAY CHAPS, JOSH BECKETT HAS A NO HITTER!
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 3, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Suck it Beckett/Red Sox!
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 3, 2009 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone tried a burger at Shake Shack in New York?
Because if you haven’t yet, it should be on your bucket list.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Jun 3, 2009 8:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes and they're genius
If you like French food, by the way, Le Singe Vert on 7th (bet 19th/20th) is awesome.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 3, 2009 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a big fan of French food
for the reason ~related to what I mentioned below. I’m looking forward to some Italian in Little Italy, though. Any recommendations?
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Jun 3, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only Italian I know in Little Italy is of the tourist variety.
But for that, you can’t beat La Mela (167 Mulberry, bet Broome and Grand). Totally cheeseball, over-the-top; community tables and massive serving portions encourage groups. It’s not the most authentic Italian cuisine, but if you can get a table outside it’s a lot of fun.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a shake there
Apparently I missed out on the burger. Flew 3000 miles for nothing!
I never really liked the old tagline.
CougCenter
by Dancing Football on Jun 3, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Apparently I missed out on the burger"
Yes, very much so. I don’t eat meat, but their portabello burger was nothing short of spectacular, and the people I went with claim that their meat burgers are some of the best they have ever tasted.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Jun 3, 2009 11:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
by Librocrat on Jun 4, 2009 12:06 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Huh it's like recs have been totally devalued or something
I seem to remember there was a problem with that once.
by Kermit. on Jun 4, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Today the Nostalgia Critic reviews
I’ve never seen this movie, but this is still one of the funniest NC reviews I have ever seen. Awesome.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 12:09 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was an awful movie, based on that review.
I’m surprised no one’s career was ruined by it. Except maybe Dan Aykroyd’s.
by Mariner John on Jun 4, 2009 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huh. David Carradine committed suicide.
by royalcurve on Jun 4, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Koko Taylor died today as well.
Who’s going to be the third?
by waldo rojas on Jun 4, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gah
with a rope tied to his neck and genitals
I agree. No one would ever do that to themselves voluntarily.
by Taylor H on Jun 5, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes after many decades of life grown men tire of conventional jacking
by Jeff on Jun 5, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Also carpul tunnel.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Jun 5, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unless that was a pun of sorts, it's Carpal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpal_tunnel_syndrome
Speaking of, maybe I should get that checked out…
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Jun 5, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wantd to correct him, but i was sure i'd end up feeling silly after learning of the joke.
by JamMasterJesus on Jun 5, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was me not bothering to check my spelling.
Or may I’m just super clever. But no.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Jun 5, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope this rumor is coming because the M's have heard that Ackley won't be available for them to pick
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 10:38 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes I'm sure that Zduriencik will ignore BPA to add pitching when he has trade pieces which can add high minors pitching
by Graham on Jun 4, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buster Olney isn't that bad of a source
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zduriencik almost never leaks draft info
by Graham on Jun 4, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I just like MLB trade and draft rumors I guess.
If only there were a site to help me with this!
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have an extra ticket for tomorrow night's game.
Pretty great seats, about 2/3 back between the 3rd base dugout and home plate. Anyone want to come with me and buy me a beer? My email is in my profile.
by royalcurve on Jun 4, 2009 10:42 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No takers, huh?
How the (not at all) mighty have fallen.
by royalcurve on Jun 4, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I lived in Seattle I would have taken this in like .0000001 seconds =(
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay RC, I'll take you up on this.
Even though I should be going to bed early tomorrow night (early flight saturday), it’s near impossible to turn down baseball. It’ll be fun. I’ll send you an email.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I emailed you, but from work, and apparently my email didn't go through.
Damn Outlook.
by msb on Jun 4, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aw dammit too late
Some other time then
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 4, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did he ever not?
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That GB% was obscene
It still is pretty good, actually. If only he could remember where the strike zone was.
by Teej on Jun 4, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In fairness, he is probably still a better pitcher than me
by Taylor H on Jun 4, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's only one way to find out
Quick, make a major league roster so we can compare!
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrew McCutchen singled in his first at bat
by Jeff on Jun 4, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That Wieters kid is a total bust
he has no home runs yet and hasn’t made a single diving catch of a foul popup. He sucks.
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He isn't a run producer either. 0 RBI!
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Send him back to AA ball dammit
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheap Trick have a new album coming out
and for a mere $30, you can get it in the glorious 8-track format.
Thrill to a song stopping mid-melody and CH-CHUNKing to the next track of the tape, only to pick up RIGHT WHERE IT LEFT OFF, like MAGIC!
Relish the non-rewindability!
Revel in the sound quality!
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I still think 8 tracks were often more useful as a format than regular cassette tapes.
Having 4 points to skip to isn’t as good as direct track access like with CDs, but it’s better than tapes!
by marc w on Jun 4, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
RJ's first try for #300 will be on MLB Network at 1:35 for those of you that have it.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 11:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I almost selfishly hope he won't get it so maybe it'll end up as an ESPN game I can watch or something
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he doesn't get it today his next start is in Phoenix I believe
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine if he has the lead going into the later innings that ESPN will pick it up.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's still kinda drizzling at that game, but they're saying they still plan to get the game in.
If they don’t, Randy will apparently pitch tomorrow.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the game is now official. Rain no longer a problem.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he leaves after 6 innings, up 2-1.
Come on Giants bullpen!
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're fucking it up.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holy shit that was lucky.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Nationals announcers couldn't believe it.
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Change that to super pissed.
They are really angry.
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They thought it was low, and that Adam Dunn should have walked.
ANd that they only called him out because of 300.
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a total strike though.
In no way borderline.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can taste the bitterness in their voices. They're still complaining about it.
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Insurance runs!
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
5-1!
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heading to the bottom of the 9th!
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh, Randy Johnson's son is the bat boy for the Giants tonight.
Thats cool.
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they just blamed the called strike again.
You would think a called strike three raped them as children or something. Good god.
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OHH MY GOD, ITS BEEN 2 INNINGS AND YOU"RE NOW DOWN BY 4.
STOP BITCHING ABOUT IT!
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God if I were the Nats announcers, I'd be praying to high heaven that the Nats don't do anything in the 9th
with a season like this, you have your choice between 59-103 or 58-104 but getting to see history made. I know which one I’d pick
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At work
was hoping it would be a night game
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They were wrong.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Beat me to it.
That’s fine, I’m lazy. Thanks.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoo! Dunn Strike out to maintain the lead!
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of "will anyone else ever win 300 games"
let’s play “who will win 300 next and how long will it be?”
I’ll take Felix Hernandez, age 37.
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will have to disagree with you.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Strasburg, 31.
BAM.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OHH SNAP DAWG!
He’ll have to win like… 30 games a year.
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll be so awesome he'll pitch in relief in between starts
and will be the ultimate win vulture.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
His magical 162-0 2014 season will help greatly
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First pitcher to ever throw 25,000 pitches in a season
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll also solve the great chasm between the leagues over the DH rule
why didn’t we tank again?
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Halladay is 32 with 140 wins
CC Sabathia seems a lot more likely than Halladay to get there
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CONGRATS RJ!
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Rios got a platinum sombrero today.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will now forever compare Greg Halman's upside to Alex Rios
by Graham on Jun 4, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is this chatty, joky guy with a veeeery slight French Canadian accent on KIRO that they claim is Erik Bedard.
by msb on Jun 4, 2009 2:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I just got out of the car and I heard the end of that interview.
For those who are interested, Bedard just said he loves Seattle and wants them to offer an extension. There was really no ambiguity to it at all.
by Sec 108 on Jun 4, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope he loves Seattle enough to get traded and then re-sign with us
by Graham on Jun 4, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, yes, yes. Do the Rickey Henderson.
by Sec 108 on Jun 4, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's new
I’d like to see some swinging strikes out of him, though.
by Jeff on Jun 4, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you think he wants to stay in Seattle?
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dutch hashish "spacecakes" become chicken friendly
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 2:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That was the title of an email that somehow made it through the hospital spam filter and all my coworkers and I received that.
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure the attachment was a virus or something
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe it was a coupon for Dutch hashish
Open it and find out!
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vegan Dutch hashish spacecakes just don't hold together well without the egg
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's like eating a Dutch hashish crumble.
We all know how shitty THOSE are
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the Subject line and just burst out laughing.
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you were stealing someone else schtick, except for the lack of capitals.
by Kermit. on Jun 4, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the email had been in title caps, I would have been pretty suspicious
by abender20 on Jun 4, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I received some spam today that had a silly subject line
“are viruses destructive?”
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 4, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now my brain is doing an Ed McMahon number to your Carnac
I gotta quit hanging around waiting for trade news, I’m getting happy feet.
by Kermit. on Jun 4, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think I would ever want any chicken in my spacecake
by Jeff on Jun 4, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're clearly separate courses and anyone that mixes them is a philistine
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 4, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tee-hee
hyphen18
On a boat ive got my swim trunks n my flippy floppies,im flippin burgers u straight flippin copies-in lake wa. Day off!
19 minutes ago from txt
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 2:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah, to be rich...
I’m sitting in an office where the thermometer read 100 degrees a bit earlier (and I’m really not kidding about this). I’d much rather be out on a boat, I think
I want to poop at your house - Thingray
by tootthekazoo on Jun 4, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love you hyphen
Follow me please.
by NOLAmarinergirl on Jun 4, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ichiro on his 27-game hitting streak:
“Once I got this far, I wanted to achieve it,” Ichiro said, according to his translator. “Now I wish that I would have asked my wife, Yumiko, and my dog, Ikkyu, to come to the game. But at the same time, if you think about it, if I didn’t invite them, it means that much to me as well.”
by Taylor H on Jun 4, 2009 3:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure he meant that if it was important to him, he would have invited his wife and dog out to see it
and since he didn’t it doesn’t mean all that much to him, besides feeling a sense of personal accomplishment
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was saying
“I wish they were here because I succeeded, but if you think about it, I didn’t invite them because I’d be nervous with them there / not want them to see me fail.”
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
they’re both very plausible responses as to why he didn’t invite his family. Oh well, another reason to love the half-crazy man that is Ichiro.
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If this were anyone but Ichiro I would make a racist joke about not playing with your food
by OlSalty on Jun 5, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Way to show restraint.
...and now I'm here
by Librocrat on Jun 5, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ichiro needs to have children quickly
so we can get several neo-Ichiros for 6 cost-controlled seasons in the 2030s.
by Decatur on Jun 5, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That quote was from 26 though, wasn't it?
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Jun 4, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Section 133 Row 26 worth $50/ticket?
right behind home plate, just off to the third base side
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is that 26 rows back or 26 rows from the top of the section?
If it’s the former no, if it’s the latter yes.
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
26 rows from the bottom, I'd assume
how far back is decent enough to see the whole field?
by seattlebruin on Jun 4, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only sections I've ever had trouble seeing the whole field from are the bleachers.
If you’re right down front it can be a little more difficult to pick up the ball I suppose, but not a lot. Personally I’d rather sit in a view reserved box than 26 rows back, but that’s just me.
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've sat just about where he's talking about, the stadium seating is a little too flat for my taste.
I’m tall enough it’s not a problem, but it could be an issue for some I suppose. It’s in the shade for afternoon games, and you avoid the sun in your eyes like the outfield, a consideration for some.
I really enjoyed those seats, you’re looking right into a right handed pitcher instead of a lefties back. The only thing I didn’t like about it is most batters are right handed, and you can’t see the strike zone from over there, it’s a little difficult to see the catchers mitt.
by Kermit. on Jun 4, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, what?
The Nationals just said Gaylord Perry won his 300th game in a giant’s uniform.
50!
by joof on Jun 4, 2009 4:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Did RJ just say the Natinals have a great lineup?
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 4:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Huh, after actually bothering to look at their lineup, I guess they are pretty good.
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been as staunch a defender as anyone of Angie Mentink's non-grossness, but I cannot abide this:
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 4:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Disgusting
The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.450 wOBA, 21 years old.
by Goose on Jun 4, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you are actually serious this site is in worse hands than BCB.
by acblue on Jun 4, 2009 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see what's so revolting about a hair
by Jeff on Jun 4, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean I wouldn't do it for a couple reasons
but I’ve flossed with anything from sock elastic to a torn ziploc bag, so whatever works.
by Jeff on Jun 4, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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