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I just finished, for the second time, a book called Into the Green: A Recon by Fire by Cherokee Paul McDonald.  It's a great book about Paul's experiences in Vietnam, and I would strongly suggest it to anyone interested in that particular war.  Hell, it's a pretty good look into war in general.

I also just finished Pure Baseball by Keith Hernandez, a book suggested by someone here at this site.  Thanks for that, whoever it was (sorry for not remembering who pointed me to it).  Good read for anyone interested in seeing a baseball game broken down to the smallest detail.

I'm curious to see what everyone around here reads, as I'm always looking for good books to read.  So, let's have it.  In what books have you guys and gals invested time?  Please feel free to discuss magazines also.

Or maybe you don't read books because books are for fucking nerds, and you wouldn't waste your time with something so non-sportified.  Shit, you're the man/woman and reading is below you.  If you're that person, then please feel free to save your... I was gonna say breath, but you wouldn't be talking, so I'll say fingers.  Save your fingers.

 

 

Star-divide

Other topics to consider discussing:

 

*Favorite breed of dog (fuck cats because they're retarded).

*Dumbest thing you've ever done.

*Your thoughts on what the internet is doing to society.

*Fuck the Padres, right?

*Your most hated athlete ever and why.

*Arlington is so hood (it's a funny video, so watch).

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I recommended Pure Baseball

No need to apologize. I am glad you liked it.

My favorite living writer is Peter Carey. He writes novels and some short stories. I recommend “The Fat Man in History” and “Bliss.” I feel they are representative of his short stories and novels, respectively. Carey is a weird writer. He messes with language in ways Nabakov and Joyce do. I like them too. I recommend Carey because I think more people should know he exists. I have no expectation that many people will like him.

My favorite dead writers are Nicolai Gogol, Ivan Turgenev, Mikhail Bulgakov, and Saul Bellow

Periodical wise, I read Granta and The Economist.

I’ll check out “Into the Green.” I like that sort of thing. A book I like that might be similar is “Spy/Counter Spy” by Dusko Popov. It is Popov’s telling of his double-agent work during WWII.

by two_hands on Jun 14, 2009 11:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate Jacoby Ellsbury.

He does the whole one long sleeve thing.

Thug Life

by Slow Country on Jun 14, 2009 11:33 PM PDT reply actions  

It's been a long time since I've read it

but Last of the Breed by Louis L’Amour was fantastic. It was one of the few novels he wrote that wasn’t a Western.

by BrianL on Jun 15, 2009 12:14 AM PDT reply actions  

Also fuck you, cats are the best animals ever and when people don't like them I feel really sorry for them.

I do love Finnish Spitz goggies though.

The internet is making our sex lives way more inventive.

I hate Kobe Bryant more than almost anyone ever but I don’t wanna get into that. In terms of on-the-field shit probably Torii Hunter or Rafael Palmiero.

Arlington is a real place as much as Kirkland is a real place. This whole building stadiums in the exurbs thing is fucking retarded.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 15, 2009 2:58 AM PDT reply actions  

I agree with you about cats.

My dog, however, is pretty cool. She’s half border collie, 1/4 springer spaniel and 1/4 lab.

I don’t hate that many people in sports. That said, I really really really dislike Carlos Beltran, Dustin Pedroia, Papelbon and Pierzynski.

by royalcurve on Jun 15, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really like David Gemmell's books.

High, heroic fantasy with great writing and great characters. Recently I’ve been reading Stephen King’s The Dark Tower books, and they have been pretty awesome so far.

50!

by joof on Jun 15, 2009 3:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Questions:

Books: I have a bunch of weird books lying around at the moment. I recently discovered the NYRB, so I have The Foundation Pit by Andrey Platanov (communist workers dig foundation for house for all of the proletariat, forget why they’re digging, weirdness ensues), Inverted World by Christopher Priest (gravitational field destroying earth and last remnants huddled within a mobile train operating on train tracks), The Slynx by Tatyana Tolstaya (post apoc dystopian with mutants and a scary monster or something), and Names on the Land by George R. Stewart (the history of things and how we name them). I’ve been meaning to get through them but holy hell I have no time at all right now.

Dogs: I’ve always liked Siberian Huskies but recently have been intrigued by Shiba Inu and Akita.

Dumb things: Uh, I was downtown when that big storm hit in mid-December a few years back. That was right dumb of me. I’ve driven from the Canadian border to my house in an hour and fifteen minutes during a thunderstorm while driving someone else’s car. That was pretty dumb. I could come up with more but they’re mostly like those.

Internet: It’s broadening our knowledge while simultaneously diminishing our attention span and willpower. I recently joked to a friend that I’d start working on something as soon as I stopped finding things to look at on the internet, but even I couldn’t say such a thing seriously.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 6:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Mobile *town

I slept three hours last night and I still can’t seem to convince myself to proofread my post.

Oh, and as to the other people claiming the internet is leading to unrestrained narcissism: word, and isn’t this all proof?

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's as much leading to it as enabling it

People have always been narcissistic. The Internet just removes the barriers easier.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn't that more easily perpetuate it then?

I’m having trouble seeing where it would end. It’s an exhibitionist tendency, but as such, I think it diminishes the opportunity for deeper conversation/interaction/understanding.

Maybe I’m being cynical.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I meant, yeah

Unrestrained narcissism has always been around, but the Internet makes it a lot easier.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Slynx sounds pretty good.

How’s it read? Is it all Russian? By which I mean, is it a lot of slow philosophizing between bits of overly allegorical plot, or is it fairly taut and entertaining with humorous allegorical references?

by sammy on Jun 15, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or, put another way,

closer to Bulgakov or Stanislaw Lem? (Yes, I know Lem isn’t Russian, but close enough)

by sammy on Jun 15, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've only recently started reading Russian lit.

I have no idea how to answer that question.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nvm. I read found an excerpt, which was pretty good.

I’ll definitely pick it up. The excerpt reads like a slightly higher-brow Absurdistan.

by sammy on Jun 15, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

List List List!

*Favorite Book: Ender’s Game!
*Favorite breed of dog: Golden Retreivers!
*Dumbest thing you’ve ever done: Chose public accounting as a profession! (just kidding…..not really though)
*Your thoughts on what the internet is doing to society: Awesomizing™ it
*Fuck the Padres, right? Yeah! Go mob mentality!
*Your most hated athlete ever and why: Tom Brady…..I wanna punch the stupid smirk off of his stupid face. (This is followed closely by Ben Mauk)
*Arlington is so hood: True!

by Limerickx on Jun 15, 2009 7:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Answers!

I just finished reading The Thing About Life Is That One Day You’ll Be Dead, which is a pretty interesting twist on the memoir – Shields started by writing about his dad, and then became fascinated by the physical process of dying so the memoir is interspersed with all sorts of facts and information about death. Both aspects are really interesting.

Favorite breed of dog: My two cats. I’m not a dog person.
Dumbest thing I’ve ever done: Not really for public consumption.
What is the internet doing to society? That’s an excellent question which deserves a longer answer than this, but at first blush it’s creating a society where everyone thinks they’re an expert on everything, and where nobody takes responsibility for anything because they can hide behind a username. This is a poisonous combination. But on balance, the Internet is actually a very good thing.
I can’t summon the energy to hate the Padres.
Most hated athlete ever: Eric Cantona. From the stupid raised collar to the time he kicked a fan in the chest for no real reason, he’s got a whole slew of reasons to hate him.
Arlington is (a non-Austin) part of Texas, right? ’Nuff said.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Mutts, both

One’s a black-and-white and one’s gray. Both were shelter cats.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

I didn’t know if that was a thing or if that was just what my wife called him.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite kind of cats.

My experience with them makes me believe that on the whole they are quirky (yet hilarious), and quite intelligent.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jun 15, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most cats are very quirky from my experience.

Also, they get very attached after a couple years of owning them, which is nice.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love grey cats.

I think they may be my favorite color cats. Its cool that you got them from a shelter though.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

All but one of mine have been given to me

One of my former apartment managers found my first two for me (look! he needs a home! really!). Kid, an all grey longhair (a night rambler who didn’t come back one day), Gurk, an orange Main Coon (already a gentleman of certain age, who continued on until he was 17)

Emma, a small b&w tuxedo kitty walked in the front door, stayed long enough to get spayed, and then moved on to greener pastures (much to the old gentleman’s relief).

Shortly after Gurk went, a friend passed along a purebred Abby (whose owner’d had to go into hospice) who was renamed Bertie (he’d arrived as ‘Whisper’). The only cat I’ve actually officially ‘adopted’ is the current inhabitant, Kirby, who was a year-old foundling who was supposed to become Bertie’s toady. Kirby instead became a very large silver tiger-striped thing who didn’t buy into that alpha cat notion — there were some fine ’rassling matches enjoyed by all before Bertie went to the big litter box in the sky.

by msb on Jun 15, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not at all true in either case

Both our cats are needy little bastards – and I say that in the nicest possible way. They crave attention and affection.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure my cat cares if I live or die.

They get very attached to their owners from what I have noticed about cats.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I've noticed that.

Another one is that they’re evil because of their apparent lack of being able to be trained.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not that they don't have the ability.

They can be trained to do things they want to do. They just don’t do things they’re not interested in doing.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 15, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are such interesting animals.

I would love to get in the mind of a cat for just a day.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer dogs,

But I always did like having a cat. However, my fiancee is very allergic to cats so I’ll never be able to have one

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's all about what you think a pet is for.

Dog’s give a level of personal devotion that is unparalleled. I think that’s what it boils down to.

by Lanky on Jun 15, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some cats do as well.

And I’ve met dogs that were wholly uninterested in their owners until it was walk/food time.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 15, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Certainly there's a range.

But it sounds like you agree that dogs tend more towards that kind of attachment.

by Lanky on Jun 15, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is 1/3 of my dogs.

One of the others shows affection at times but also will bite if you try to pick it up randomly. The other is too old for me to know anymore.

by Mariner John on Jun 15, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have never owned a cat.

And my dad hates cats. And I’m always fearful of being scratched when I’m around my friends’ cats.

by Mariner John on Jun 15, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cats make me ill.

That is the only reason I need to not like them.

by Sec 108 on Jun 15, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cats are so worthless

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

A dog would not only walk the mile to get you donuts,

But he’d make sure he got you the most fresh donut in the shop and bring some hot coffee, even if you didn’t ask for it

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Charles Mingus taught his cat to use a toilet.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bullshit

That cat is hell spawn that is slowly but surely plotting our deaths

by Robert on Jun 15, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is not plotting my death.

Maybe yours though. I don’t know.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not like you're going to know about it if he is

He’ll just let you think everything is cool until the day he steps in front of you when you’re walking down the stairs.

by OlSalty on Jun 15, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am pretty sure my cat cares if I live or die.

They get very attached to their owners from what I have noticed about cats.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Douglass Adams, Terry Pratchett, Neil Gaiman, Timothy Zahn for fiction

I don’t read many nonfiction books by the same author except perhaps Richard Dawkins. Lots of science and history books.

Anyone interested in war/military history should read On Killing by LTC Dave Grossman.

by Fett42 on Jun 15, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

I'd like to second Douglass Adams.

I’ve never laughed out loud while reading as much as I have with Adams.

by Lanky on Jun 15, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

On Killing is a great book.

I read it early in high school for a report I did for a psych class, and it changed the way I think about psychology and war. I remember that Army studies of WWI and WWII found that some crazy small number of men in frontline combat – only 20% I think – actually fire their weapons because of humans’ instinctive aversion to killing others.

by Decatur on Jun 18, 2009 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that number has been increasing in succeeding generations from what I've read.

The study I was looking at had some interesting differences when a soldier could see the opponents face or not.

by Kermit. on Jun 18, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Answers:

I read mostly baseball books, and just finished reading But Didn’t We Have Fun? It’s an interesting history of baseball from 1843-1870. It’s pretty good stuff.

Cats rule and dogs drool. Okay, not really, I love dogs, but I love cats too. My parents have a half German Shepherd, half Golden Labrador, and it’s pretty much the best dog ever.

Dumbest thing I’ve ever done: My brother and I got BB guns for Christmas one year. My dad preached gun safety, and as soon as he let us to shoot by ourselves, we proceeded to shoot our neighbor’s metal shed. The metal pinging sounds were so satisfying. Our neighbor just so happened to be a cop and could hear us shooting his shed. He let my parents know what was going on and my dad then smashed the BB guns.

I think the internet is doing a pretty good job of creating a very narcissistic society. Facebook and Twitter statuses are the worst offenders. Do I really care that you had two lattes this morning, or that you’re having a bad hair day?

Padres? Meh.

Most hated athlete: Michael Vick. Fuck that guy. Or maybe Leonard Little. It’s a tough choice. I think maybe I hate Little a bit more because nobody gives a shit that he’s a terrible person.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Jun 15, 2009 9:00 AM PDT reply actions  

...

I would recommend anything by Chuck Palahniuk. “Haunted” is pretty awesome.

Favorite dog? Great Dane or Saint Bernard. There is something awesome to me about a dog that is about the size of a mini horse, not to mention they are very calm, easy going dogs, they are pretty smart, and don’t require THAT much exercise.

by Zwakamatsu on Jun 15, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just finished reading

Pahlaniuk’s “Fugitives and Refugees”, and once you get past the frankly embarrassing section at the front that’s all about Portland nicknames (nicknames that NOBODY EVER USES), it’s a really interesting read.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haunted wasn't bad.

I was entertained by it. It was the only thing I remember reading by him other than Fight Club, but I thought that for the most part he was basically collecting urban legends that were familiar to him and trying to create short stories from them while framing them within a larger, somewhat irrelevant narrative…

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Both of the books you mentioned are non-fiction.

Is that your preference? If so, I just started Legacy of Ashes: The History of the CIA. Also, A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius is great.

For fiction, I usually read pretty light stuff to balance out the heavy nonfiction – kind of a palate cleanser. Anything by John Sandford works well for that.

My wife prefers small dogs, and for that a miniature schnauzer is excellent.

My latest lame theory is that the internet gives the illusion of communication, but strips away so many important elements that little of value is left.

by Lanky on Jun 15, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Sandford is great, he really finishes off the bad guys. Your internet comment, I like that.

There’s so many different ways to approach a conversation, personally I key on the body language quite a bit. Also, tone and vocal emphasis add a lot to a statement. There’s been comments I’ve deleted realizing without the added bits, they just suck.

by Kermit. on Jun 15, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe not statement, perhaps presentation. A lot of interaction is in the presentation, not just the content.

And that sounds like a declarative statement, but if you could see my body language, and hear the tone I said it in? Not at all.

by Kermit. on Jun 15, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Off day fun!

Favorite book? I don’t know that I can narrow that down. Baseball book: Ball Four.

Cats. I am allergic to them, however. Huskies are cute but frequently stupid. Spitzes are adorable.

I will ignore the second question.

The internet has caused a complete change in society in that news is no longer delivered in discrete chunks and we expect everything to happen more quickly. It’s helping us get more impatient as a society. Still awesome.

I couldn’t care less about the Padres. I like the stadium, I like watching Adrian Gonzalez hit, and I love seeing their lineups because they are hilarious.

My most hated athlete ever is Bruce Bowen. Fuck that guy.

by abender20 on Jun 15, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Oh, and ...

Shelties (raised by them) and Shibas (damn cute and way too smart). Cats are also very fine, especially if you have been apartment-bound too many years.

by msb on Jun 15, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

WA has the best Arlington. We are so Hick.

Best books I read over the last year- The Road by Cormac Macarthy (The There will be Blood guy.) and World War Z (A fictional book written in a non-fictional way about Zombies overrunning the world.

by aestivalis on Jun 15, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Cormac McCarthy is the "No Country For Old Men" guy.

Technically, Upton Sinclair is the “There Will be Blood” guy.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Book talk!

My favorite book is probably A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius, though I’m also a fan of dystopian novels such as 1984, Brave New World, etc. Two books I’ve recently finished reading are Catch 22 and What is the What.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 15, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions  

If you like Brave New World

Check out other Huxley especially Island. Catch 22 is an absolute classic and to me the definitive war book! Slaughter House Five is a close second. Anything by Vonnegut is worth reading.

Raider for life

by Rich Langford on Jun 17, 2009 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just got Team of rivals from the library...

and promptly returned it, as I realized I would need my own paperback to tote about.

by msb on Jun 15, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions  

2666 by Roberto Bolaño absolutely destroyed me.

His prose (and Natasha Wimmer’s translation) make me really really happy.

I like really big furry dogs and mangy-looking mutts. Tibetan Mastiffs, Great Pyrranese, Newfoundlanders on the one end, and Australian Cattle Dogs on the other.

by sammy on Jun 15, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I might add that book to the list.

I keep seeing it around all over the place, like it’s calling to me.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I picked it up because every reviewer seemed to struggle

with ways to describe how fucking awesome it is. I found it damn near impossible to put down, but if you’re struggling at all through the second or fourth book/chapter/section, just know that it’s way more than worth it to get to the synthesizing final fifth. Fastest 900 pages I’ve ever read.

by sammy on Jun 15, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit there's only two baseball games today?

I know Mondays are generally travel days, but wow.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 15, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Yay pointless friendlies!

(I know, it’s a cup competition, but as cups go it’s right up there with the World Club Championship and the CONCACAF Gold Cup, really)

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

True enough

But most of those full squads are full of players that just came off a long season and are probably not going 100%. I just hate how many tournaments FIFA crams into the calendar; if FIFA wants a shakedown cruise of the World Cup venues, great, but maybe use South African teams for that and don’t charge admission, so the stadia will be filled with people, which will allow them to test their crowd control/in-venue capabilities.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not

but I think the parents are right, though it is a very difficult decision and I can see the argument either way. I think Duk over at Big League Stew did a good post on it.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 15, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, sarcasm.

In my view, encouraging your child to drop out of high school for money is not good parenting.

by waldo rojas on Jun 15, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't the point of high school to prepare yourself for college or whatever else?

And the point of college is to prepare you for work and thus making money.

by Mariner John on Jun 15, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No no no no no

the point of college is to build up your tolerance so you can drink more.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't tell either.

However, if my kid was in the same situation I’d let him get the GED and make himself eligible. He has the opportunity to be mostly set as far as money goes for the rest of his life. If he wants to become educated, he can make the time for it and he’ll have the ability to pay for it.

by Jed MC on Jun 15, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Books books books books.

I’m reading Real Food: What to Eat and Why and I highly recommend it to anyone who is sick of the plethora of books about food out there, or who rolls their eyes when someone pulls out a Slim-Fast.
Reading The Coming Plague is a great idea for anyone who is interested in the Swine Flu situation.
*Favorite breed of dog:
Cats are much less retarded than dogs, but I like mid-sized retriever/lab/collie/mix types
*Dumbest thing you’ve ever done:
As though this needs to be public information.
*Your thoughts on what the internet is doing to society:
In many ways, dumbing us down by allowing us to have information available so readily that we don’t have to retain it or even really analyze what we find.
*Fuck the Padres, right?
No, I am fond of the Padres.
*Your most hated athlete ever and why
I hate Chipper Jones. I can’t explain why.

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by Eyebrows on Jun 15, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

It's on computers now!

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this true though?

Maybe the internet is bringing out who people really are. Without the repercussions of talking face to face or even knowing what someone you’re talking to looks like you can get away with saying almost anything. I think this will bring people to act how they truly want to because they don’t have to worry about any harm or damage to their actual reputation.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Ha! Ha! guy finally makes an appearance on LL.

That’s it people, time to close up shop.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 16, 2009 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't even know who this guy is

Maybe he just dislikes milk as much as I do, and that’s why he looks like a sourpuss

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe he's just very thrifty

and so all this milk going to waste is making him angry.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 15, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure I'm not the only one here to have seen it

It’s good just for pure WTF value

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, Road Trip.

Is it unfashionable for me to have enjoyed that movie?

by Lanky on Jun 15, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

That wasn't the question.

Fashion/popularity often has little to do with good taste.

by Lanky on Jun 15, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

But 95% of your problem with this society is that people's tastes don't align with yours?

I mean, wouldn’t that get really annoying? People treating every show that you want to see like it’s a fucking Hannah Montana gig?

That fashion/popularity has little to do with good taste is one of life’s great blessings.

by marc w on Jun 15, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

And when they do start to align

you can disregard them because they sold out AND, you can also claim to have liked them before it was cool.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 15, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

95% of my problem with this society is that most people don't bother to think about what their tastes are

they just let the latest big thing get shoved down their throats and think it’s the best thing since sliced bread.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

What? There's a new big thing?

For the love of God, man, tell me what it is!

by Lanky on Jun 15, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew I wasn't the only one

I even laughed repeatedly during the movie, though it has been quite a while since I’ve seen it

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just read a book on how to make cheese.

Now I plan on putting my reading into action.

by Sec 108 on Jun 15, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I make cheese regularly!

Let me know if you want some company!

by royalcurve on Jun 15, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

When do you plan to stop failing?

That’ll be the day…

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don't plan to stop failing, you fail to plan stopping

or you stop to fail planning. Or something

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 15, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

For a good laugh

I suggest the Pirates series by Gideon Defoe. The books are also nice and short so people like myself can actually finish them.

I never really liked the old tagline.

CougCenter

by Craig Powers on Jun 15, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of pirates

Dave Barry & Ridley Pearson have written some very entertaining YA prequels to the Peter Pan stories

by msb on Jun 15, 2009 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some favorite authors.

James Herriot, great story teller and very very humorous.

Larry McMurtry, just finished Anything For Billy. Really nice read, reminded me a bit of Cormac McCarthy just not so fucking bleak. I did find his recent Berrybender series unapproachable.

James Ellroy, his 4 novel L.A. series is one of my favorites. Noir-ish, dense, violent.

Neal Stephenson. You could make a good argument that Cryptonomicon, Snow Crash, and Diamond Age are a trilogy. Cryptonomicon is always found in the sci-fi section and I don’t get that. It’s set in the present day, and has leaps back to WW-II. I’m about to dive into his Baroque Cycle again, I didn’t like it the first time and had to put it down so if anyone enjoyed it please tell me why. Maybe I’m reading it wrong.

Michael Connelly. His Harry Bosch cop series is pretty decent, akin to the Sandford Prey series.

by Kermit. on Jun 15, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Anything in particular?

I think his mythology and setting are so seamless they don’t become the story, but Nellie is a fantastic character. I think of her as an extension of the female skateboarder chick in Snow Crash. He infers that her instructor at the Victorian Academy is the skateboarder chick.

by Kermit. on Jun 15, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually enjoyed the Baroque Cycle

It is slow going at first, and it took me a while to get into it. Cryptonomicon is still my favorite though.

by EJO on Jun 15, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really liked this post.

Now I don’t feel so bad being a Mariner’s fan. At least we lose in normal ways most of the time.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this one.
When Adam Eaton goes out to the bullpen to throw before the game starts, he has to wait for the guy who’s going to relieve him to finish warming up.

by abender20 on Jun 15, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's almost like they're playing a completely different sport

Or that thing in little league practice where you’re automatically out when you hit a pop fly (to curb uppercut-swinging)

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 16, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to do this

*Favorite breed of dog – Scottish Terrier, if only because I have two and the only other dog I’ve really had is a mutt

*Dumbest thing you’ve ever done – It involves a girl and is probably LLLJ

*Your thoughts on what the internet is doing to society – Making communication easier in a way but also giving people an excuse not to meet face to face. “Well, we’ll always have facebook!”

*Fuck the Padres, right? – They are quite boring

*Your most hated athlete ever and why. – Paul O’Neill

To add my own little tidbit, I just graduated high school. Am I the only one who didn’t really realize they graduated high school until a lot later? I don’t really feel any different.

by Mariner John on Jun 15, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Finishing off and submitting my research paper

but let’s be honest, I’ve got nothing on you getting a Broadstripe CSR to admit to that.

by BrianL on Jun 15, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you really?

Get Fuzz on the phone, we’re going to switch to Comcast.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. Its really not good in the least bit.

We have even thought about switching to a Qwest/DirecTV combo.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty much in a Comcast monopoly

No Fios, and I have too many trees to use DirecTV. Even still, I am going to be cancelling all but my basic tv channels (gotta keep the cartoons for the kid) and the internet. I don’t watch nearly enough TV to justify what Comcast demands from me each month

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Jun 15, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

They cannot.

Broadstripe has a City-backed monopoly.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 15, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

It could be worse.

The city-backed monopoly could be Time Warner instead. There are some folks in upstate New York that would kill for Broadstripe.

by BrianL on Jun 15, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it that bad?

My grandparents have it and their TV service at least seems better than what we have.

by Kirk on Jun 15, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exaflood theory is really just a scare tactic used by the telecom industry to charge you more for bandwidth.

They’ve been telling us that the tubes that comprise the internet are going to be full within the next year since 1996.

by BrianL on Jun 15, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with tiered payment systems for data usage.

I don’t download or torrent anything. All I care about is being able to surf the internet super fast. I’d be fine with having a cap, as long as other people can choose to pay more if they need it.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 15, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Usage caps are fine, but the cap has to be reasonable.

40GB a month for a $49.99 monthly fee isn’t reasonable now and it’s going to be less reasonable in a 12-18 months.

Comcast has a very reasonable cap at 250GB per month for their $50ish plan. If they were to put in tiers with lower caps but also lower monthly rates, that would be fine too.

by BrianL on Jun 15, 2009 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't put much stock into this article.

It’s citing the same Nemertes research that everyone else has been citing over the last few months. This particular bit of research was funded by the Telecom industry and was quickly debunked by The Economist.

by BrianL on Jun 15, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good news to the people that have been paying extra for the extreme 15 megabit package

According to Broadstripe, in just a few weeks they will have the technology in place that allows us to use it.

by Robert on Jun 15, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was looking at Cot's today

And I realized that Chipper Jones signed an extension through 2012 with an option for 2013 this year. Good Christ.

by Mariner John on Jun 15, 2009 5:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Only tangentially related, but

Does Chipper Jones belong in the Hall of Fame? I say yes, but I could be dissuaded.

by sammy on Jun 15, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't imagine why. He's certainly good, but HOF? I don't see it.

One MVP award – that’s the biggest point in his favor. He was a good all-around player, but what did he excel at? I think the injuries over the years have ruined his counting stats.

by Lanky on Jun 15, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions