29-30, Game Notes
There's something really nice about winning early and then having the division leader's game get rained out. Practically speaking, it doesn't really matter, since the Rangers will make it up at a later date and presumably won't be any more likely to lose than they would've been today, but psychologically, it feels like we got to chip away another little bit at the difference. I mean, I know that a Ranger loss would've pulled us in to 4 games back, but a Rangers win would've kept us at 5, and winning without making up ground gets annoying in a hurry, so I'm happy with how things transpired, no matter how conservative it may be. The Texas/Toronto game will be made up in September. We'll see how much it matters when we get there. For now, we're 10% closer to the lead than we were a day ago, and the 4.5-game gap is the smallest it's been in nearly a month. The Mariners' chance at being the team that drives Red Sox, Yankees, or Rays fans absolutely bonkers in October is very much alive and well.
- Felix against lefties today. Spot the gameplan!
The Orioles ran out a lineup with five guys who hit lefty against Felix, and Felix responded by living almost exclusively either down by the knees or in and around the outer third of the zone. Note how well the image above corresponds to the image below, showing the run value by location of pitches thrown by right-handed pitchers to left-handed batters (red and yellow being good for the pitcher, blue and green being good for the hitter).

Righties get the best results by pitching lefties away, and that's exactly what we saw Felix do today. Not that this is anything extraordinary, but this time around it seemed unusually pronounced, as Felix only threw two pitches that could be considered inside and barely put anything down the middle. Would it be nice to see him take advantage of that zone up and in as well? Yes, it would, but when he's having a mediocre command day like he did this afternoon, I'd just as soon like to see him try to avoid it, as his natural movement runs down and away from lefties and missing when you're aiming up and in could put something in the wheelhouse. I think Felix had the right idea. At least in terms of location. He still gave lefties too many fastballs (69%) and too few changeups (24%), but then, hey, it's Felix. Baltimore's three doubles all came on fastballs thrown to left-handed hitters. On the brighter side, the sixth and seventh innings saw Felix strike out lefties Luke Scott and Matt Wieters on low breaking balls that fell off the table faster than a pie wishes it could when it sees Carlos Silva LOL!
All in all, a good day for Felix that would be a great day for nearly any other pitcher alive. He generated 12 groundballs on 22 balls in play, missed 12 bats out of 103 pitches, and while he only threw 58% strikes with his heater, he kept himself in control by throwing 80% strikes when going offspeed. This marks the sixth consecutive start in which Felix has missed at least ten bats, and over that span his rate stands at 13.7%. The King is on a roll. - Speaking of hot streaks, Jose Lopez since the start of the Angels series: .364/.383/.818. Half of his 20 extra-base hits have come in his last 11 games. It's been well established in other places by way smarter people that hot streaks don't have any predictive value - that a guy coming up in the middle of a hot streak won't do better than he would at any other point in time - but, to me, the real value of a hot streak is in its proof of ability. Jose Lopez's first several weeks made me doubt who he was as a hitter, so by flipping out all over the place and pulling himself up to a more respectable batting line in the process, he's showed me that perhaps 2008 wasn't such a total fluke after all. If Lopez can be a .310-.320 wOBA bat from this point forward, instead of the hitter he's been to date, then that'll be big news for an offense that needs all the help it can get. And because of his recent results, I'm beginning to think that maybe he can do it.
- I really do wish that Lopez hit more impressive home runs. Both of his shots today came on breaking balls that he deposited a few rows back in dead left. According to HitTracker, only five of Lopez's 46 homers since 2006 have surpassed 400 feet, and he's topped out at 415. What that tells me is that, while Lopez does clearly have home run power in his bat, he just doesn't have the strength to ever turn into much more of a power hitter than he currently is. It'd be one thing if he'd hit a ball 440 or 450 feet some time before. But a 415 max? Lopez isn't really sitting on the verge of a 30 bomb season. He is what he is. On that note, given Lopez's pull-hitting tendencies and ordinary strength, would you believe me if I told you that he's hit for better power at home than on the road over his career? 12.3 PAs per extra-base hit and 43.3 PAs per homer in Safeco, versus 14.2 and 54.3 elsewhere. Why, that doesn't make sense at all.
- What follows is a list of things that Sean White does worse than 2007-2008 Sean Green:
-throw strikes
-get swinging strikes
-generate groundballs
I know that White seems comfortable right now. I feel the same way when he comes in for some reason. But he's not anywhere close to this good, and it's only a matter of time before he has one of those meltdowns that tended to plague Green down the stretch. Yeah, it'll be a meltdown made up of a bunch of singles and walks, but while that's less theatrical than the Guardado special, it's also more drawn-out and stupid. All I hope is that White is able to put off the reality check until Shawn Kelley gets right.
Olson and Koji Uehara tomorrow afternoon. In case you hadn't noticed, Uehara has been all kinds of good, in large part due to the splitter that he throws more often than any other starter in the bigs. It's funny how his tRA is better than Matsuzaka's could ever dream of being. This is Birdland!
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Felix didn't get destroyed by lefties
Hooray!
by Poochie on Jun 10, 2009 10:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Lopez is a surprise.
I was a big fan of replacing the doublemint twins earlier this season, but maybe Loafie deserves another look. You are right that his home runs aren’t that impressive in terms of distance, and I can’t understand his home/away power difference either. As you said, he is what he is.
by Sinking Away on Jun 10, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I am still all about moving him
However, in the meantime, I’m excited to get some offensive production out of him. I don’t know that this streak could’ve come at a better time.
by Jeff on Jun 10, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no objection to losing him, but getting rid of Yuni, in my opinion, is more urgent.
Cedeno is just not a viable everyday option for either SS or 2B, unless we can get a very good left-handed power hitting SS or 2B. What can we do? I know that this year is about re-building, but I want to win this year because it almost seems like a gift that the west is so bad that it’s up grabs.
by Sinking Away on Jun 10, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would move him for the sake of finding someone who's skillset is a better fit for Safeco.
by Poochie on Jun 10, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meaning left-handed.
You have to wonder if eventually the Mariners will be running out a lineup with 9 lefties and/or switch hitter.
by Fin on Jun 11, 2009 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think certain positions require right-handedness though.
Such as catcher for sure, and most of the time 2nd and 3rd base, and shortstop. That is probably where either opposite handedness or switch hitting comes into play.
by Fin on Jun 11, 2009 1:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or better at defense
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
by InSpokane on Jun 11, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe this hot streak will make him more desirable?
I am no longer in Spokane, but I think I'll keep the name anyway.
by InSpokane on Jun 11, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got to go to work tomorrow so I won't be able to respond to any replies, but
my bottom line is, I want to win the WORLD SERIES this year. I don’t want us to trade Washburn or Bedard or Beltre or Branyan or Ichiro or Gutierrez. I want us to win this “anyone can win” division and go on to win the World Series THIS YEAR. I don’t think I’m off my nut here. I don’t think this line of thinking would ruin us for 2011. We do need to get at least one left-handed power bat in the line-up. Beltre has to hit like he is supposed to. I think Griffrey wants a ring more than he wants to bat everyday. He easily handled not being sent out to play to play defense. He’d be willing to give up his role as DH for a WS ring. The M’s could win it all this year, they just need to fix the middle infield defense and get a left-handed power hitter.
by Sinking Away on Jun 10, 2009 11:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you're off your nut
This team is not anywhere near World Series talent. You can wish it with your heart and believe it as a fan, but in reality, it is wrong. Just on paper, we’re nowhere near a team that can win a world series. In order for something like that to happen, pieces would have to fall in place that have little chance of falling into place. We may be in a weak division, but our playoff odds are still sitting at 11%. I don’t have to tell you this isn’t good.
You may want to win THIS YEAR, but you’re hopes as a fan should meet the realities of the organization. Say the team mortgages it all to run for the playoffs and sells off prospects to gain what you would like (personally, I think we are more than a middle infield and LH power bat away). What happens when we don’t win the WS (as stated, the odds are low). Then you’re not only screwed now, but you’ve dug a whole you can’t dig out of for years. Instead, they should work towards the future when they will have a more realistic shot at making a run and can build the organization a way that can sustain a competitive level of talent.
I understand you want a world series ring, but from what I’ve seen from this team thus far, and from every projection I’ve seen, now is not the time. It’s nice to hope and dream, but realistically our time is a few years off. I’d be more than pissed if we shot ourselves in the foot to chase a pipe dream this year that I know has very little chance of coming true.
by cougfan on Jun 11, 2009 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The playoffs are a crap shoot.
The hard part is making it to the playoffs. It’s unlikely that we’ll get there, but you never know.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Jun 11, 2009 1:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true.
Anything can happen between now and september. For example, in 2007, I was so sure I was asking the people at the team store in early september when I could buy my playoff tickets.
But yes, assuming the Mariners hang onto Bedard and Felix, they could make an excellent 1-2 punch in a playoff series,
by Fin on Jun 11, 2009 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My feelings exactly.
Not that we should go for it but agreeing with Fin that if we did make it, a 1-2 of Felix/Bedard with potentially Morrow/Vargas or maybe RRS could be lethal. I’m not counting Washburn because we could trade him and not really suffer. After that, our offense would only have to do just enough (as long as they didn’t have to face a right-handed groundball pitcher. If only any one of Carp/Saunders/Clement could play SS.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 11, 2009 3:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean Jesus, the Rays were so fucking good last year.
by acblue on Jun 11, 2009 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And they are only .500 this year.
What happened? Did the Red Sox and Yankees figure them out?
by Fin on Jun 11, 2009 1:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That division is bonkers, Yankees got better, SSS.
by acblue on Jun 11, 2009 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean.
It also looks like the Blue Jays’ luck is finally running out.
by Fin on Jun 11, 2009 1:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant that you can be amazing and still not win the WS.
But Jesus Chrsit let’s just let the Sox, Yankees, Rays and Blue Jays fight it out for the WS title and get 2010 going a bit early.
by acblue on Jun 11, 2009 1:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree with you.
But I am a bit selfish, and if there is any sort of chance that they could go to the playoffs, I would rather see them do that then start planning for next year. Of course, I think the Mariners are kind of in a situation where they can do both, cutting dead weight, getting some sort of spare part for Washburn (maybe a decent reliever). I am interested to see what Z will do. I mean, so far he has made a team that is rebuilding into a .500 team, let’s see if he can continue to rebuild while also improving the team in the present.
by Fin on Jun 11, 2009 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a tough decision.
Because who’s to say in 2011 when we’re truly built to win, we’ll actually win enough games to go to the postseason. No matter how good you are on paper, Playoffs are never a sure thing. Why not take advantage of an extremely wide-open division? If we get a trade proposal for Bedard that would be incredibly stupid not to take, then by all means, pull the trigger.
I actually bought a Betancourt t-shirt.
by Hopefulmsfan on Jun 11, 2009 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with trying to improve this year's club but I want it done in a way that makes us better going forward.
There is a time and place to sacrifice the future for the present but this isn’t it.
by acblue on Jun 11, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They have the second-best run differential in the AL
They’re still really good but their bullpen blows so far this year and they probably have had some bad luck (6-13 in one-run games).
by patsfan on Jun 11, 2009 1:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need some close to major league pitching in the system like crazy
And the only way we’re going to get that is by trading people.
Though Morrow converting back to starting helps on that front.
by OlSalty on Jun 11, 2009 1:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Using caps makes your point more valid.
by Poochie on Jun 11, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know exactly what YOU mean
Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.
by pdb on Jun 11, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the answer with Loafie is that Safeco is death more in the alleys in left-center than to straightaway left
and everything Loafie hits out of the park is a dead-pull. I need to consult HitTracker to see if this is actually true, but I don’t remember him ever hitting a homer that wasn’t something he turned on thrown on the inner half
by seattlebruin on Jun 11, 2009 12:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus random luck.
I think he hit like 12 or 13 homers at home last year
by seattlebruin on Jun 11, 2009 12:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not understanding the chat, unless it is flipped horiztonally.
You said Felix pitched away to lefties, but if I am not mistaking, the chart seems to show that Felix pitched inside.
by Fin on Jun 11, 2009 1:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I would assume that it's catcher's perspective.
50!
by joof on Jun 11, 2009 2:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish the pitch f/x community as a whole would label their graphs because I always encounter this problem: is it pitcher view or hitter view?
No offence to the graph maker in this respect of course, it’s just my attempt at constructive criticism.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 11, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Graphs are most often shown from the catcher's perspective
and when they’re the opposite, the writer will generally tell you.
by Jeff on Jun 11, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ta.
I’ve been playing too much MLB The Show…
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Jun 11, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff,
We here at Lookout Landing would appreciate it if you stuck to the rules that you and your compatriots established and refrained from using chatspeak in future posts. Kthxbai!
Sincerely,
The Readership
Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I will make love to it.
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997
by JLProck on Jun 11, 2009 8:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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