Seattle Mariners @ Baltimore Orioles GameThread, Jun 10, 2009 4:05 PM PDT

Seattle Mariners	Baltimore Orioles
Ichiro Suzuki - RF	Brian Roberts - 2B
Russell Branyan - 1B	Adam Jones - CF
Adrian Beltre - 3B	Nick Markakis - RF
Ken Griffey Jr. - DH	Aubrey Huff - 1B
Jose Lopez - "2B"	Melvin Mora - 3B
Yuniesky Betancourt - "SS"	Luke Scott - DH
Endy Chavez - LF	Nolan Reimold - LF
Jamie Burke - C	Matt Wieters - C
Franklin Gutierrez - CF	Robert Andino - SS

Be good, Felix.

by Teej on Jun 10, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Jeremy Guthrie looks like the guy that took photos at my wedding

you wouldn’t think he needed a day job.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice quotes from Morrow in Baker's Blog.

Sounds fully committed to spending as much time in AAA as necessary to become a good starter. Admits he was making excuses and taking the easy route staying the pen.

Of course this should have been done 3 years ago, but he’s still young enough to become at worst a middle of the rotation guy

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

At worst middle of the rotation?

That sure is optimistic.

by lailaihei on Jun 10, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He just needs to get his mechanics under control. I thought he flashed alot of

potential in his starts last year.

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

insert "inverted W" joke here

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by pdb on Jun 10, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yeah but if he doesn't, he's not a middle-of-the-rotation guy.

by lailaihei on Jun 10, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just have confidence that he's not permantently screwed up from a mechanics standpoint.

I think with innings he’s going to be able to get his command to a level where he can at least miss alot of bats despite walking guys. And be capable of giving you enough consistency that he can fill the #3 or #4 starter role

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's cool.

We’ve given him a lot of shit for flip-flopping, and rightfully so, but it’s good to see him admit that he was wrong in making excuses.

by katal on Jun 10, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

As angry at him as I have been, if he means what he says and he works hard I'm not going to hold it against him.

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Morrow's word is invaluable

by Robert on Jun 10, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You realize

based on your quote at the bottom being followed by “Sunshine & Lollipops”, it appears that you are genuinely happy for Yuni’s return to the lineup

by Malcontent1 on Jun 10, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Only to someone who never spends any time here.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Jun 10, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ugg, why is "he" back?

Wak must be a push-over parent.

by Sinking Away on Jun 10, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

There are any number of explanations but sure, let's go ahead and assume the worst.

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm going to assume it's because of the power show he put on in bp

by Robert on Jun 10, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yuni, the sulky man-baby

Wandering around in comically oversized bonnet carrying a lollypop bigger than his head.

I don’t know why that line made me think of that, but for some reason I’m posting anyway.

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by JY on Jun 10, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apparently he had a meeting today with Wak. I'm sure he was helped by the fact

Ronny Cedeno is terrible

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Baker:

By the way, on Yuniesky Betancourt, he apparently went in — on his own — to see manager Don Wakamatsu today to talk about why he’d been benched the past four games. Wakamatsu laid it all out for him — the part about having to show up to play every day, about joining his teammates for workouts. Both men had plenty to say to each other.

by Teej on Jun 10, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cedeno is far from terrible.

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's been below replacement level so far this year though, no?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We need to stop pretending Cedeno is a valuable player just because

Jack traded for him. We won that trade because Heilman is pretty worthless, but to act like Cedeno is a intregal part of our future is silly.

Clue me in as to what he has done at the ML level that makes him anywhere close to a league average performer. Or heck let me know what he’s done that lends you to believe he’s even replacement level going forward

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Please do not assume that I blindly love everything Zduriencik does.

I am not a fucking moron.

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well then how is he "far from terrible"? Maybe terrible is too strong, but

saying far from terrible indicates he’s bordering on being an average MLB player or even hinting he could be good.

At best, he’s a below average player, and this year he’s been pretty bad

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well, he was worth half a win last season in >250 PA.

Yes, he’s been bad this year but that’s based on 76 PA. The only previous year he’s been below replacement level was 2006, and he was clearly called up before he was ready. In AAA in 2007 he put up a .958 OPS.

I’m not arguing that he’s important part of the future or that he’s likely to be good. But “far from terrible” != league average SS.

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cedeno is valuable

Because he is not Yuni

by pakipaki on Jun 10, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

His performance in the high minors can't be ignored.

by Teej on Jun 10, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Or heck let me know what he’s done that lends you to believe he’s even replacement level going forward"

You are a lost cause

by Graham on Jun 10, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Alas, we do not see "AAA" next to Mr. Betancourt's spot

by lemonverbena on Jun 10, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

The fact we could break the 5 games back barrier today is sourly offput by the fact Yuni is back in the lineup.

Get him off the fucking roster ahhhhhhh

by Zwakamatsu on Jun 10, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Question time: Who goes on the roster, assuming Yuni and Morrow go to AAA?

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

RRS and Ackley

by Zwakamatsu on Jun 10, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

RRS and Corco

by cougfan on Jun 10, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

RRS and, hell, Tui?

Maybe Woodword if they make room on the 40 man?

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tui's still hurt.

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

RRS and Woodward then.

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

RRS and Morse :(

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by JY on Jun 10, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why didn't another team claim him when we DFA'd him?

by BrianL on Jun 10, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is he on the 40 man?

by acblue on Jun 10, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No.

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someones gotta come off to make room for Corco...

by cougfan on Jun 10, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That has to be one of the worst 5-8s in all of baseball

ugh.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You can expand that to 3-9

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes most baseball teams would hate having Adrian Beltre and their third baseman and Gutierrez in centre

by Graham on Jun 10, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't want Beltre, a third baseman, and Gutierrez all in center.

by katal on Jun 10, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Why is Gutz batting ninth?

Betancourt richly deserves to bat last in the order. Possibly even on my eight-year-old’s T-ball team. Gutz has the 4th-best OPS (.691) on the team, closely behind Griffey (.716). The man should be batting no lower than fifth in this crappy, crappy order. Probably 2nd.

Ichiro
Gutierrez
Branyan
Griffey
Beltre
The Movie Star
And The Rest

by short on Jun 10, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

"Gutz has the 4th-best OPS (.691) on the team"

Christ that hurts to read.

by Teej on Jun 10, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Don't ask me.

by Graham on Jun 10, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think bluemax was referring strictly to the offensive aspect of their games. By

indicating lineup order, I assumed he meant offensively.

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

So what you're saying is you don't want an ML average hitter with power at three and a slightly below average hitter at 9?

by Graham on Jun 10, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm saying the current performence of the 3-9 hitters in our lineup is arguably the worst

in major league baseball this season.

It has nothing to do with defense, their track record, or going forward into future seasons.

I am saying that on June 10th 2009, this is one of the worst 3-9 lineups being fielded in the major leagues.

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I love Endy!

No reason

by pakipaki on Jun 10, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I kind of like Endy

but I’d like him better as a 9th place hitter.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs