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6/10: Open Game Thread

Seattle Mariners at Baltimore Orioles, Jun 10, 2009 4:05 PM PDT





Felix Hernandez

#34 / Pitcher / Seattle Mariners

6-3

225

R

R

Apr 08, 1986



Jeremy Guthrie

#46 / Pitcher / Baltimore Orioles

6-1

195

R

R

Apr 08, 1979


Hey look everybody! Yuni's back!

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Jeremy Guthrie looks like the guy that took photos at my wedding

you wouldn’t think he needed a day job.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2009 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice quotes from Morrow in Baker's Blog.

Sounds fully committed to spending as much time in AAA as necessary to become a good starter. Admits he was making excuses and taking the easy route staying the pen.

Of course this should have been done 3 years ago, but he’s still young enough to become at worst a middle of the rotation guy

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I just have confidence that he's not permantently screwed up from a mechanics standpoint.

I think with innings he’s going to be able to get his command to a level where he can at least miss alot of bats despite walking guys. And be capable of giving you enough consistency that he can fill the #3 or #4 starter role

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

You realize

based on your quote at the bottom being followed by “Sunshine & Lollipops”, it appears that you are genuinely happy for Yuni’s return to the lineup

by Malcontent1 on Jun 10, 2009 3:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Yuni, the sulky man-baby

Wandering around in comically oversized bonnet carrying a lollypop bigger than his head.

I don’t know why that line made me think of that, but for some reason I’m posting anyway.

"Ever tried? Ever failed? No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett http://mvn.com/marinersminors/

by JY on Jun 10, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baker:
By the way, on Yuniesky Betancourt, he apparently went in — on his own — to see manager Don Wakamatsu today to talk about why he’d been benched the past four games. Wakamatsu laid it all out for him — the part about having to show up to play every day, about joining his teammates for workouts. Both men had plenty to say to each other.

by Teej on Jun 10, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

We need to stop pretending Cedeno is a valuable player just because

Jack traded for him. We won that trade because Heilman is pretty worthless, but to act like Cedeno is a intregal part of our future is silly.

Clue me in as to what he has done at the ML level that makes him anywhere close to a league average performer. Or heck let me know what he’s done that lends you to believe he’s even replacement level going forward

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well then how is he "far from terrible"? Maybe terrible is too strong, but

saying far from terrible indicates he’s bordering on being an average MLB player or even hinting he could be good.

At best, he’s a below average player, and this year he’s been pretty bad

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, he was worth half a win last season in >250 PA.

Yes, he’s been bad this year but that’s based on 76 PA. The only previous year he’s been below replacement level was 2006, and he was clearly called up before he was ready. In AAA in 2007 he put up a .958 OPS.

I’m not arguing that he’s important part of the future or that he’s likely to be good. But “far from terrible” != league average SS.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 10, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That has to be one of the worst 5-8s in all of baseball

ugh.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2009 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Why is Gutz batting ninth?

Betancourt richly deserves to bat last in the order. Possibly even on my eight-year-old’s T-ball team. Gutz has the 4th-best OPS (.691) on the team, closely behind Griffey (.716). The man should be batting no lower than fifth in this crappy, crappy order. Probably 2nd.

Ichiro
Gutierrez
Branyan
Griffey
Beltre
The Movie Star
And The Rest

by short on Jun 10, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm saying the current performence of the 3-9 hitters in our lineup is arguably the worst

in major league baseball this season.

It has nothing to do with defense, their track record, or going forward into future seasons.

I am saying that on June 10th 2009, this is one of the worst 3-9 lineups being fielded in the major leagues.

by Rudy4three on Jun 10, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of like Endy

but I’d like him better as a 9th place hitter.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guthrie has thrown 3 breaking balls so far.

$5 says that’s more than Felix throws in the first inning.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2009 4:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I should say offspeed, not breaking.

And now he’s up to 5!

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wondered this too.

This team carries weird fetishes and grudges against catchers.

by Matthew on Jun 10, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously

Why would the call him up to start only to give Burke his job a few days later?

by Poochie on Jun 10, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neat.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Interesting if we flip the situation

I suspect there would be some GTE if we failed to score with first and second with no outs.

Happy to see it happen to someone else for a change.

by PDXTai on Jun 10, 2009 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Lopez!

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I think he was safe,

but anything to get Yuni out of here quicker…

by SebastianPruiti on Jun 10, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

So uhhh, Ichiro is still hitting for a good deal of power...

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 4:48 PM PDT reply actions  

What an absurd commercial

they won’t even let Griffey play the field anymore

by Poochie on Jun 10, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

91 mph fastball

87 mph changeup

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Jun 10, 2009 4:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Cmon quick outs!

That storm looks quite ominous…

by seattlesundevil on Jun 10, 2009 5:18 PM PDT reply actions  

You got lucky Jamie.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Crap.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh my God no

So tired of that ankle scaring the shit out of me

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by gregrabble on Jun 10, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

As long as he can continue to pitch it's fine.

The bad thing is once you roll an ankle bad you have propensity to do it again. I sprained mine realllllly bad probably 5 years ago and I don’t know how many times I’ve rolled the same one since then.

by Zwakamatsu on Jun 10, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Injury?

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2009 5:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Somebody hem those pants!

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Official game!

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

No Rain out

Then I have to watch the Yankee game

by coolconman on Jun 10, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

JOSE AGAIN!
  1. on the day!

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Well that's weird.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not that clever.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sick

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think that hit him.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Nope.

Probably won’t this year. Not enough wins. Can’t finish his shit.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 10, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

68?

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 6:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Nevermind, 88.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

103 pitches, still cruising pretty good though.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions  

103 pitches?

Probably could go another, but I’d be fine leaving it to the pen.

by Fuckmikereilly on Jun 10, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep, looks like he's done.

Good job Felix.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Angels seem to hate John Lackey

5IP 9R 8ER 11H 2BB 2SO 2HR 58% strikes thrown.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions  

I haven't checked velocities

is there the possibility he is still hurt? If he just sucks now that’s probably better for us than him being hurt and having a chance to get healthy and be good again.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't see anything in his velocity figures

he just doesn’t miss bats like he did in his peak. He’s a #3 who’s going to be a #4 pretty soon.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 10, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Angels fans have accepted this yet

I’m assuming no given that they think Joe Saunders and Matt Palmer are awesome.

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by bluemax on Jun 10, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Considering the ridiculous amount of success Saunders has had.

I honestly can’t blame him. Adenhart or no Adenhart, that is a damn lucky team.

by katal on Jun 10, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

The DA, Sims? Jack McCoy doesn't appreciate that nickname.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Did Trevor Hoffman just walk into the building?

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions  

He was traded in December.

He didn’t ask the Mets doctors whether he should have something done with the bone spur, if he was worried about the Seattle doctor’s recommendation?

by msb on Jun 10, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

That was a thoroughly enjoyable baseball game.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.422 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on Jun 10, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Well crud.

That wasn’t very exciting.

by ThundaPC on Jun 10, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I wish I was a professional baseball player.

Brad Adams: What did you like out of Guthrie’s pitches tonight, when you hit your two homeruns?
Katal: Well he was throwing his best stuff. Too bad I was still able to tee-off on it!
Brad: !!!
Katal: Yeah. Sup, Guthrie. Does that anger you? Do you want one of your teammates to throw at me, now? Do it, I like getting on base. That’s the only retaliation you have available, after all. Sure as hell can’t get me out.

Real baseball players are never cool enough.

by katal on Jun 10, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

These Ws are important to Felix

and the bullpen has blown at least 2 that seemed in the bag. I want Felix to be happy.

ignacio

by ignacio on Jun 10, 2009 6:44 PM PDT reply actions  

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