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Yuniesky Betancourt Is A Damn Fool

So by now you've probably heard about Yuni's benching. The organization is upset with his poor work ethic and lack of drive, and they're prepared to sit him or demote him until things get better. I just want to focus on one quote in particular. From LaRue's piece:

Betancourt, who has had meetings with his manager and coaches all season, insists he's doing nothing different now than ever.

"I've been doing the same routine for years," Betancourt said. "I can't control the lineup. I'm doing whatever I've done in the past."

Read that quote. Now read it again. In the first sentence alone, two things are made clear:

  • Yuni's been meeting with his unhappy superiors all year
  • Yuni isn't doing anything differently

Betancourt...insists he's doing nothing different now than ever.

Self-awareness this bad should send people to prison. I can barely fathom the levels of arrogance and obliviousness necessary for one one to believe that, despite countless meetings with bosses who want you to change, you've been doing things right all along. Jeff Weaver made adjustments. Horacio Ramirez made adjustments. Carlos Silva made adjustments. Yuniesky Betancourt hasn't made adjustments. He has consciously and deliberately eluded change, and by remaining the same player he's always been, he's turned into a worse one.

Not that he knows it. If you ask Yuni, he's still the same guy. After all, if he's not preparing differently, then he shouldn't be playing differently, right? Fleeting flirtation with patience aside, Yuni doesn't think anything's changed, and it can be a million times more difficult to convince a player with that mindset that something is wrong and needs to be fixed.

Player X: You wanted to see me, coach?
Coach: Hey. Yeah. I wanted to talk to you about your plate discipline.
Player X: What about it, coach?
Coach: It's not where I'd like it to be. I think a little improvement in your eye could really elevate your game to the next level.
Player X: I know what you mean, coach. I've been swinging at too many bad pitches. I really need to get better.
Coach: Glad to hear it.
Player X: I'll spend extra time in the cages. Hope that pitching machine doesn't throw any Pedro changeups! Ha ha!
Coach: Ha ha!

Player Y: what
Coach: Hey. Yeah. I wanted to talk to you about your plate discipline.
Player Y: what I'm fine
Coach: No, you're not.
Player Y: yes I am
Coach: No, you're really not.
Player Y: look we can sit here and argue until the cows come home but I don't see the point because I'm right and you're wrong
Coach: You're wrong and you're benched.
Player Y: you can't bench a superstar
Coach: I wouldn't dream of it.
Player Y:
Coach:
Player Y:
hey look over there a giant spider! look out it's gonna get you!
Coach: What? I don't see a-
Coach:
Coach:
Hello?

Yuni's broken. That much has been obvious for at least a calendar year. Yuni's broken, and the team is now punishing him for his lack of growth. Yuni, though, doesn't understand why this is happening all of a sudden, which can't bode well for how this whole episode turns out. The team will hope that a benching or demotion finally wakes him up and gets him to put forth a little more effort, but if Yuni can sit through dozens of face-to-face meetings and not figure out that something is wrong, I'm not sure anything'll be accomplished by taking discipline to the next step. Some people just don't get it. Though I occasionally feel guilty for writing off most professional athletes as complete idiots, Yuni's done nothing to shed the label.

Betancourt...insists he's doing nothing different now than ever.

Unbelievable.

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I understand that it takes a certain level of arrogance to be a top-flight professional athlete

but the level of arrogance shown by Yuni in not even pondering the possibility that he could work harder and get better is absolutely breathtaking.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2009 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I find it hard to believe that this will end well for Yuni

I mean, what’s the best case scenario? I don’t think the defense is coming back (certainly not during the season), even if he does work harder and lose some weight. As for the offense, maybe he takes a few more pitches in Tacoma, but is anyone going to believe for a second that he’s revamped his entire approach at the plate?

This is obviously long overdue, and took this long only because the M’s have had no other options. Cedeno doesn’t exactly inspire a lot of confidence, but at this point I’m thrilled to hopefully never see Betancourt again.

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Jun 10, 2009 10:29 AM PDT reply actions  

God
“You can’t play a guy who doesn’t work hard on a team where everyone else busts their ass,” one Mariner said. “I don’t know why this never happened before, but no one in this clubhouse has any doubts about why it’s happened now.”

Jose Lopez is on this team.

And we’re supposed to believe that Ichiro’s a problem in the clubhouse? Yuni is poison.

by Jeff Sullivan on Jun 10, 2009 10:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, because what team doesn't want one more shitty baseball player?

Awaiting the day I catch a Russell Branyan foul ball. I [em]will[/em] make love to it.
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by JLProck on Jun 10, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Willie's not a shitty player, he's just mis-cast as a regular.

He has his value in certain areas. As a utility guy, there are worse in the big leagues. Better ones too, but he’s not the worst.

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 10, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love for Yuni to be sent to rookie ball, the lazy fuck needs to be subjected to that kind of humiliation.

That said, I think if that happened to Yuni he wouldn’t give a shit. Which is fine by me because I would actually celebrate if Yuni was simply released.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 10, 2009 10:44 AM PDT reply actions  

The problem

I think the problem with this is that he might knock the tar out of the ball in Tacoma. I certainly haven’t followed Yuni’s career. But, in my uninformed opinion it seems like he’s always relied on his talent. I don’t think any of us will dispute that he’s talented. So his talent has taken him this far with very little work, and he’s made it the majors without hard work.

Sending him back to Tacoma might just allow his talent to dominate again and he could just go right back to doing better than the people around him without any work.

the solution is obviously to go back in time and trade him when he was worth something. If only there was some blog somewhere or some write who had suggested the Mariners do this very thing . . . .

by Snuffleupagus on Jun 10, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

The solution

create a AAAA league. It would contain only one team, and all players are either current or former M’s. You go to practice and bitch about your team mates letting you down. You get promoted back up to the big league when you realize your problems are cause by you.

Carlos Silva is latin for "Let the buyer beware".

by ErictheRed on Jun 10, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he'd dominate the league or anything.

He moved fast in the M’s system because we were starting Wilson Valdez/Mike Morse, not because he was an amazing hitter. He’s been so unbelievably consistent that I think we could all basically guess his slash line in AAA. He is what he is… which is sort of the point of the post.

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

EVen if this were true

the organization is smart enough to know the difference between Yuni hitting well because of talent and Yuni hitting well and playing defense well because he’s working hard. If he gets sent down it’s a punishment, not an attempt to fix something wrong with his game.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 10, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I just meant that he won't care

if he gets sent down he gets to play baseball. In addition to that he gets to play baseball relatively well (although people more knowledgable than me say not that great).

My point is that from a pure punishment perpsective having him sit on the bench might be worse than sending him to Tacoma. In Tacoma he can think to himself everytime he gets a hit ‘see, I’m good at baseball and I’m doing just fine. those managers are just stupid and don’t get me.’

While he’s sitting on the bench he’s face to face with the disdain of the management and the rest of the team.

Of course then he’s taking up a roster spot.

by Snuffleupagus on Jun 10, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

He can think whatever the fuck he wants as long as he's not doing it in a Mariners' uniform.

I have no faith that he will improve. You can’t move him now, but maybe if he goes to Tacoma and rakes someone will take him for free. If not, whatever. At least we can spare Sec 108’s vocal cords.

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 10, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which can apparently be heard from behind the 3B dugout, according to reports of friends.

Sec. 108 is in right field.

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by BrettJMiller on Jun 10, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been told the same thing.

Honestly though ac, if not for Mariner games I would have nowhere to practice my bellowing voice. Even if Yuni goes away I will still yell because that is what I do.

by Sec 108 on Jun 10, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not as though I didn't expect this to happen.

But it sucks because I know how good Yuni could be if he had any desire to reach his full potential. But since he wants to be a lazy fuck hole, fuck him. Have fun in Tacoma.

by d0nkey on Jun 10, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Looks like that's not too far away

Cedeno needs to show an iota of hitting ability and we’re practically there. Wak seems to be big, real big on effort and presentation (ie the ties on team flights) and Yuni may be made into an example.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 10, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

So why did we put Chris Burke on waivers again?

But this is great news. For Cedeno, for the team, for the city. The faster Yuni can pout his way out of the majors the better. Time to start sniffing around for a SS/lefty starter swap.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 10, 2009 10:57 AM PDT reply actions  

"Yuni's been meeting with his unhappy superiors all year"

Not long after her blog post noting Betancourt’s absence from early BP went up yesterday, Drayer was on 710 and pointed out that over the last three years various coaches and players have been designated as official Yuni-butt-kickers, all to no avail.

by msb on Jun 10, 2009 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I can't speak for others, but this makes me very happy

The only poster who might be unhappy about this is Yuniform

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 10, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yuni is not broken. Yuni is retarded.

Don’t take my word for it. See for yourself!

Both adults and children with mental retardation may also exhibit the following characteristics:

    * Delays in oral language development
    * Deficits in memory skills
    * Difficulty learning social rules
    * Difficulty with problem solving skills
    * Delays in the development of adaptive behaviors such as self-help or self-care skills
    * Lack of social inhibitors

by ThundaPC on Jun 10, 2009 11:11 AM PDT reply actions  

I heard about this yesterday on the pre-game show

And Drayer was talking about him not taking batting practice with everyone else, and the fact that it’s starting to piss the other guys off. I liked Yuni until now; I just figured he was struggling a little; but he’s just being a dick about it, and that’s not cool. I’m not big into Ronnie Cedeno, but at least Cedeno gives a shit about the team, his performance, and the fans, and I have a healthy amount of respect for that.

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by section331 on Jun 10, 2009 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Dammit.

Thanks. I don’t know why I keep spelling it like that. :/

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by section331 on Jun 10, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to see something like a Yuni for Jeff Francouer swap happen

the most hilarious headcase for headcase swap ever (yes, I’m aware it would make no sense for either team)

by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2009 12:00 PM PDT reply actions  

We get Yuniel they get Frabklin

Makes great sense. Endy slides into center for the remainder of the season Saunders/Wlad platoon in LF. In stant improvement! And they would go for it…. eh maybe not.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 10, 2009 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, cock

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 10, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love how the new group has handled this.

They inherited him so they had to give him a chance. They were smart enough to get Cedeno to fill in should he fail.

What gets me crazy angry is the past regime. By the end of 2006 I was done with Yuni. When a drunk guy sitting in right field can tell someone is getting worse on a daily basis why the fuck can’t the team see it?

This whole Yuni experience is easily the most frustrating I have ever watched. More than Russ Davis, David Henderson, Mike Morgan, Matt Young or any of the many others who never lived up to their potential.

by Sec 108 on Jun 10, 2009 12:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Excellent!

The other tidbit that really frosted my ass about this kid besides the line up quote, he says he was asleep on the plane and didn’t know about the batting practice. Nevermind the other three. Specifically this one moment in time, he’s asleep on the plane, wakes up and wipes the drool off his face, or not, and heads off to the hotel. Wakes up and he’s all by himself, lonely little monkey, and doesn’t think anything about it.

What a crock of shit, I don’t know anything more than anybody else when it comes to this situation, but guys that make excuses like that? Get ‘em away, far far away. I’d love to hear all the excuses he offers, then again no. He’s hurt this team and shown a complete lack of respect for his teammates, their efforts and the time they’ve invested. There is no greater insult.

by Kermit. on Jun 10, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's really hilarious is that they surely told him when he was awake

in general you don’t make important announcements and then pray everyone was awake to hear them when they may very well be asleep

by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're sending a message to Ronny

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on Jun 10, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

What, you're shitting me?!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 10, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

GO YUNI GO

Make the best out of this second chance!

by Robert on Jun 10, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eighth chance.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Jun 10, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOW + WHY HAS THIS HAPPENED?

I THOUGHT WE HAD SHIPPED THAT MONKEY OFF TO THE ZOO FOR GOOD.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 10, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe we could make Yuni live with Knut in his pen and see what happens?

Just so you are in the loop: I will be starving and teasing Knut for weeks before Yuni is allowed in.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 10, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

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