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The 2009 Draft: Day Two Open Thread

We had better pick Ackley or I'll be so angry.

4th round: James Jones (as an outfielder!).

5th round: Tyler Blandford, RHP

6th round: Shaver Hansen, 3B

7th round: Brian Moran, LHP (UNC)

8th round: James Gillheeney, LHP

9th round: Trevor Coleman, C

10th round: Vincent Catricala, 3B

I'll add more detail when I have some more time.

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Bad news!

I can 100% guarantee that the M’s will not select Dustin Ackley today.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2009 8:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Anybody want to rank the 1st day of the AL West?

Texas A– Hard to complain about Purke and Scheppers, Mendoca is intersting and Erlin is another small lefty that fits the pattern for them every year (Kiker, Ross and now Elrin). Texas is going to have another top 5 draft this year….

Seatle B+ – Ackley, Poythress and Seager I really like, Franklin I am "Meh" on and Barron is a pick I think the Mariners wish they could redo… Nice overall start to the first day though, getting the best postion prospect in the draft tends to help.

Oak B – Not a lot to work with for Oakland, but I like Green at 13 and Marks in the 3rd. Not spectacular but a nice solid set of picks. Depending on which Green you get, 1st half or 2nd half, will make or break this draft.

LAAAA B -How can you have so many picks and have such an up and down first day? Really like Skaggs and Trout, concerned over Grichuck and think they over drafted on several of their picks… The Angels budget may have had a bigger effect on this draft that anything else.

by laxtonto on Jun 10, 2009 8:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Angels lower I think

Texas’s draft is going to be impossible to rank until the signing deadline

by Graham MacAree on Jun 10, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Angels picks confound me

Heres a interesting little nugget from the Rangers draft… Purke’s agent’s agency is owned by one of Nolan Ryan’s business partners… Early word is that the deal will get done, and not as high as people think…

by laxtonto on Jun 10, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then holy crap nice work Rangers

I still don’t like Schepper’s chances of working out, but you got him in a place where the risks start making sense

by Graham MacAree on Jun 10, 2009 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really don't know what to expect

from Scheppers. But then again getting him in the Supp 1st was a steal. He might end up being a closer, but Texas will definitely try and make him a starter…

by laxtonto on Jun 10, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heres the writeup....
Some reports suggest that Purke – who is advised not by Scott Boras like Porcello but by SSG (Select Sports Group), a Houston-based agency whose clients include Nolan Ryan and which is owned in part by Don Sanders, the Mexia-born entrepreneur with whom Ryan owns the Round Rock Express and Corpus Christi Hooks (and could be in line for an ownership stake in the Rangers, according to multiple reports)

by laxtonto on Jun 10, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Raw athlete with tools

6’4, can run well, will develop power as he fills out his body – draws physical comparisons to Mike Cameron and Adam Jones (shockingly, he’s black). Some teams liked him as a pitcher, where he’s been 91-95 off the mound, but his secondary stuff was terrible and the M"s prefer the left-handed bat.

Probably projects as a corner outfielder down the line. Long way from the majors, but for everyone who wanted more upside, here you go.

by davidcameron on Jun 10, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hah

The M’s take a pitcher – and announce him as an outfielder.

I think they wanted lefty bats.

by davidcameron on Jun 10, 2009 9:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Wants top 20 Money

but since Oak didn’t have a 2nd rounder it is possible

by laxtonto on Jun 10, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe being from northern calif. helps...good risk for a 1st rd talent

    With a full-ride scholarship to UCLA on the table, the Stassis wanted "top 20 money" to pull the Honkers standout away from the Pac-10 school and into the pros, said Max’s father and coach, Jim Stassi.

    "We have a figure in our head what UCLA is worth," he said. "And when those clubs called, we said we are not going to make a deal at slot to get it done.

    "He would have gone in the (compensation round) if we had settled for slot."

Link

by Asfan4ever723 on Jun 10, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

james jones article

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2009/05/05/2009-05-05_james_jones.html

"In baseball, even the best hitters fail seven of ten times, and of those seven failures there are different reasons why. Some are personal failures, others are losses to the pitcher. You just get beat. In those personal failures, I felt I could have done better." Source: Baseball Digest (November 2002 Issue)

by switch11 on Jun 10, 2009 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

If they can fix his control this is awesome

If they can’t this is a waste of everyone’s time

by Graham MacAree on Jun 10, 2009 9:21 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah. Though again, looks like his pure stuff is better than Oliver's.

I’d thought his stats would look good next to Pribanic’s or someone like that, but uh, Blandford walks a LOT of hitters.
Getting more of a Nolan Gallagher vibe, and that’s less cool.

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he's fixable

I figured that whoever drafted him would have spotted a mechanical flaw they think is correctable

by Graham MacAree on Jun 10, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and again, the M's seemed to do OK with 'fixable' guys like Lorin and Pribanic

although that was more like they weren’t missing bats when they should. This is different. But yes. A great early test for the player development folks.
Go Pedro!

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

ba article

http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/ask-ba/2009/268219.html

like how he says 2nd round talent, but might go in 4th round. today is the high risk, high reward day i guess.

"In baseball, even the best hitters fail seven of ten times, and of those seven failures there are different reasons why. Some are personal failures, others are losses to the pitcher. You just get beat. In those personal failures, I felt I could have done better." Source: Baseball Digest (November 2002 Issue)

by switch11 on Jun 10, 2009 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

It occurs to me..

…there are more than one dimension to signability concerns.

For players who have options like re-entering the draft, you really can’t pick them too low and get a steal. At some point, they’ll just leave the table and you’ve wasted the pick. Picking a Purke in the 2nd or 3rd round isn’t a steal, because he isn’t going to sign for that kind of money—he’ll just re-enter the draft. Makes more sense in the supplemental rounds, because the tradeoffs are more even there.

by rtang on Jun 10, 2009 9:31 AM PDT reply actions  

.330/.395/.633

Plenty of pop, not a lot of plate discipline… who knows. Could be good.
Switch hitter.

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

So how does a player like this fall to the sixth round?

If he played SS it doesn’t seem like a total lack of athleticism would be an issue and while those numbers aren’t necessarily eye-popping for college they’re more than solid. Is it just one of those scouting consensus things that mortals are incapable of seeing?

by Aaron Campeau on Jun 10, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's one for ya, LL!

With the 177th pick in the 2009 MLB Draft, the San Francisco Giants select:

Matthew Graham

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Jun 10, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow, it's son of ex-MLB player round....

That and Puerto Rican Baseball Academy round.

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Holy shit, Moran's stats are amazing.

Are there signability issues, or is this just a case of a meh-stuff lefty taking advantage of college hitters?

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Deception guy in the bullpen

I don’t think that’s a good profile for the majors

by Graham MacAree on Jun 10, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, just read that.

Touches the high 80s from a low to 3/4 arm slot.
Sounds bullpeny to me, but at least he might be good at it.

by marc w on Jun 10, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Moran from...UNC

Rah Rah Car’lina is the new Who Let the Dogs Out

by pmc47 on Jun 10, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions  

FWIW, Moran has unbelievable stats this year

I followed that team closely because I figured we’d get Ackley. I think the pure stuff is a big question mark. But he gets outs (in college)

by gustafm on Jun 10, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

brian moran fip article
FIP measures how successful pitchers are with things they are solely responsible for, such as home runs, walks, hit batsmen and strikeouts. Among the site’s top-ranked college pitchers, Moran has the second-best FIP, behind San Diego State phenom Stephen Strasburg, the consensus No. 1 overall pick.

http://www.lohud.com/article/20090608/SPORTS06/906080350

good pick. love it.

"In baseball, even the best hitters fail seven of ten times, and of those seven failures there are different reasons why. Some are personal failures, others are losses to the pitcher. You just get beat. In those personal failures, I felt I could have done better." Source: Baseball Digest (November 2002 Issue)

by switch11 on Jun 10, 2009 9:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Uh-oh...Ackley and Moran have a rival

I'd rather know a little about a lot than a lot about a little

by Sportszilla on Jun 10, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I think we need more scouts

since we only seem to be taking players from the south in this draft

by seattlebruin on Jun 10, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions  

gillheeney on same list as josh fields

stopper of the year in some conference in 2008 –
http://www.sportswriters.net/ncbwa/news/2008/stopper080417.html

"In baseball, even the best hitters fail seven of ten times, and of those seven failures there are different reasons why. Some are personal failures, others are losses to the pitcher. You just get beat. In those personal failures, I felt I could have done better." Source: Baseball Digest (November 2002 Issue)

by switch11 on Jun 10, 2009 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

Switch hitting catcher

Was great in the Cape Cod League last summer but had a bad year (and missed 12 games with injuries) so he slipped

by gustafm on Jun 10, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

For the record on Coleman...

He calls a great game. I covered Mizzou baseball this year, and every pitcher on the team raved about his game-calling skills. He doesn’t have a great arm, but if his bat comes around he could be a nice MLB catcher.

Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?

by UribeAuction on Jun 10, 2009 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Way to alienate the whole of LL in one scouting report!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Jun 10, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha, I never said I agreed with where he was drafted.

I’m not sure his bat will come around, and that’s why I think he should stay at Missouri for his senior year. I thought he was being overrated by a lot of people, and I don’t think I would’ve taken him in the ninth round.

Chicago White Sox Examiner — Your what hurts?

by UribeAuction on Jun 10, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Re-stocking the system.

I bet Zduriencik loathes Bavasi and Fontaine.

by jimmylauderdale on Jun 10, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions  

How could you?

He played for the Bells last year. I’m surprised on how high he got drafted.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 10, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

But yes we all know his first love is football.

But currently he doesn’t look like the best NFL QB prospect.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Jun 10, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

At what point can we start making up draft picks to see if anybody notices?

I hear in the last round the Mariners took Mark Shoemaker.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on Jun 10, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

More ACC players, YES!

I go to law school. Therefore, I have no life.

by andrewgolfsalot on Jun 10, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Hahaha- from some UGA board.
… CF Matt Cerione was arrested over the weekend for underage possession and fake ID.

Seems that he was approached by an officer for carrying an open container, and when asked to produce ID, he gave the officer his older brother’s (born in 84) ID. The officer noticed it wasn’t him, and asked for another ID. Cerione thumbed through his wallet pretending he couldn’t find another, but the officer saw his real ID and asked for it, which showed he was only 20.

by abender20 on Jun 10, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

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