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5/6: Open Game Thread, Part 2

I suppose I might as well come out and confess that a big part of me wanted this to happen all along.

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MEH!

You got slurved bitch.

by Slurvey on May 6, 2009 6:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I love how Callaspo's name

looks like “collapse” when you scan over it…

by Karma Police on May 6, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

I get to the computer and everyone is melting down and I don’t want to read a 700 count post

by Kirsten Schlewitz on May 6, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

8-0 Royals, 4th inning

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wheres Travis Blackley when you need him.

"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker

by houseofprime on May 6, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Long Island

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/N/Clint-Nageotte.shtml

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reno

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Travis-Blackley.shtml

As an aside I never knew his middle name was Jarrod.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap.

That score cant be real!

by Slica on May 6, 2009 6:32 PM PDT reply actions  

This has always bothered me.

Same thing with the restaurant ones. If I make plans, get dressed up and go out to a nice restaurant, and you secretly feed me Pizza Hut, fuck you. I don’t care if it’s delicious — you just fed me sodium as a meal without my consent.

by Teej on May 6, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Blowers: "This has turned into an individual game"

Wasn’t that the problem with last year’s team?

by ThundaPC on May 6, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

I sense a Yuni double play.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

My predictive abilities only work for college football bowls apparently.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

A Ichi slam would help ease the pain.

"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker

by houseofprime on May 6, 2009 6:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I saw that and got excited

switched tabs and got sad.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ponson with the standing O

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome.

Welcome to the Mariners, Don Wakamatsu.

by ThundaPC on May 6, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't forget your cutoffs.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure he's not being serious.

Even though there are parts of it that I completely agree with.

by Teej on May 6, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what threw me a bit.

He makes several completely valid points – usually satire is written as being pseudo-valid. But it’s probably written with an unsteady balance of seriousness and irreverence, at the very least.

by Decatur on May 6, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's extremely poorly executed anyway.

We ought to have the guts to call him on it even though we’re all one big happy family.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does a terrible job as satire.

Nearly every single thing written in that column is perfectly justifiable, and a valid way to look at Silva’s career. Don’t let your hatred of him for harming the M’s blind you to that. It would be totally okay for a columnist to write this sort of column — in fact I hope this is how it would be written — and thus the satire fails because at no point is anything DMZ writing come across as outrageous. I can see only one thing that I would disagree with, actually, and then that’s just a matter of spin.

Satire is supposed to take aim a deserving target. This time DMZ failed. It’s probably not the popular view to say this, but objectively it’s true.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

The "spin" given in this "satire" article is a perfectly valid one.

It’s a point of view we might all disagree with (most of us, at least) here on LL, but it’s not a crazy position, or an unsustainable one. So again, if this is satire, I fail to see who the target is. Silva? The points in the column are well-taken in almost every instance if you take them for what they are. Columnists? What would be wrong with pitching a column along these lines? I for one would PREFER that media members use a bit more kindness and understanding in writing about these sorts of matters.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is an assertion that remains distinctly unproven.

I see nothing lazy about it at all. It attacks the issue from a point of view of genuine human sympathy,,,,which is something Silva has never gotten an iota of from us. Sure, we can say that he hasn’t really deserved it — that’s another defensible POV — but I for one would be glad to see articles taking this sort of angle. It acknowledges that Silva is made of fail, but doesn’t engage in the hateful bashing that has become all too common (and personalized) around LL, for example.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It must have taken DMZ a great deal of time, though, because writing convincing satire or deadpan takes tremendous energy.

I remember how he felt kind of hurt after people implied things like “wow, you must have a lot of time on your hands,” after he posted “Bugs Bunny: Greatest Banned Player Ever.”

by Decatur on May 6, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re-reading it, here's a pretty massive tell:
he’s a competitor, a former rock of the Twins rotation. Remember how heavily his winless streak weighed on him, how he pitched through shoulder stiffness trying to grind out starts, and particularly think about how badly he wanted to stay in that April 25th start that ended up breaking his streak. Even the Silva so many have been so disappointed with still have his team a chance to win: the team had a winning record in his starts when he lost his rotation spot.

[my emphasis]

by Decatur on May 6, 2009 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

My hatred of him?

I think I’m on record as saying I don’t hate Silva.

It’s subtle, it’s not satire about Silva. It’s satire about how cookie-cutter and cliched filled many sportswriter opinion columns are, and how many of them don’t even fucking try.

by JI on May 6, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where are the cliches? Where is the cookie-cutter? Where is the lack of trying?

As I said, if someone wrote this column — if five different people wrote this column — I wouldn’t say “jesus, what fucking cliches!” In fact, I would say THE OPPOSITE, JI. I would say “wow, I actually respect the fact that the author didn’t just take the easy and obvious ‘fuck Silva and I hope we never see him again’ route”

You’re not thinking this through.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is totally not true.

DMZ’s piece reads like a Baker blog entry all the way through. Either you’ve gotten to the point where you ignore bad beat writing altogether (and if so, good for you) or you’re missing something.

by Aaron Campeau on May 6, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I think you people have gotten WAAAAAY too arrogant and incorrigible if you're using the phrase "like a Baker blog entry" as a term of derision.

Seriously, we could stand to stop breathing our own self-satisfied rarified air sometimes. Baker’s blog entries are actually quite good and valuable much of the time, with excellent reporting. I’m gobsmacked that you can’t appreciate that.

Yes, of course, he is greatly flawed as an analyst in many ways. But that’s beside the point.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually like Baker, but he writes garbage like this from time to time

and your habit of assuming the worst about people and pointing that out in the manner in which you are so fond of doing is getting really tiresome.

by Aaron Campeau on May 6, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I apologize for coming across as hectoring.

Not trying to be a douchebag.

I do stand by (the non-douchey parts of) my point, however.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

We appreciate Baker.

He spends a lot of his time covering the M’s. For that, we are grateful. However, he refrains from telling the hard truth EVERY TIME. So we poke fun of him. Not unreasonably.

by .Taylor on May 6, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd take some of that tone back if I could.

Too hectoring, as I said above.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a cliche to be that one guy who tries to get attention for feeling sorry for Carlos Silva.

It’s like me defending Earlt Family Guy in order to prove I’m not a LLemming

by JI on May 6, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone knows early Family Guy was actually funny.

Defending late period Family Guy — now that’s a risky move.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

I guess I just feel sympathetic toward Silva today, because that was hard to watch, but I felt myself agreeing with parts of what he’s making fun of. Mostly because I think the criticism of Silva gets a bit too personal sometimes.

by Teej on May 6, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like DMZ is a good enough writer with a strong enough track record

that it’s pretty obvious that the overall point he’s making is “Silva is a bad pitcher and that’s plenty of reason to hate him” while attacking lazy beat writing at the same time.

by Aaron Campeau on May 6, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel a little bit silly for getting fooled on it - good baseball satire writing, even if it makes no sense when you think about the context, often fools me at first.

Maybe I’m just too damned earnest about baseball. Must be a symptom of not my following the Mariners all that closely, much less daily, between 2004-2008.

by Decatur on May 6, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I share your earnestness (earnesty?) as well, apparently.

I think this piece works perfectly well taken straight.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, as I re-read it, the fallacies in it become pretty clear.

And while players like Ichiro are continually defended, every excuse made for their slow starts or poor performances,

Passive voice is a dead giveaway – DMZ’s doesn’t forget to specify the actor over something contraversial like that.

Remember how heavily his winless streak weighed on him, how he pitched through shoulder stiffness trying to grind out starts,

We all know how kindly DMZ looks upon wins as a counting stat and pitching through injuries.

But much of the emotional tenor of it, I think, rings pretty true.

by Decatur on May 6, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm seeing more fallacies, too.

So clearly it’s meant as satire. But I agree, the emotional tenor is hard to criticize.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

K!

You got slurved bitch.

by Slurvey on May 6, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions  

OT: Anybody catch the 3rd Underworld movie?

The commercial for was trying to tell me it was good?

"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker

by houseofprime on May 6, 2009 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Russell Branyan is the only hitter on this team I don't hate.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy shit

Branyan was going to get up in someone’s grill there….

the offseason sucks

by section331 on May 6, 2009 6:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Good News!

My trial of the good gif-o-matic is still good for 12 days

by JI on May 6, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah

He was just trying to do his job, man…
I have the feeling the locker room is NOT going to be a fun place tonight…

the offseason sucks

by section331 on May 6, 2009 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit

Well, cant fault him. Its a 7 run game, fuck it why not try

by Brian Floyd on May 6, 2009 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I love how MLB.tv isn't going to commercial

in case there is a brawl or something

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

It would work for me.

Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".

by Sinking Away on May 6, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I have no problem

Admitting my full-on gayness…..also, there’s something horribly wrong with that statement….

the offseason sucks

by section331 on May 6, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hate it when I'm in the dark and wind up looking stupid.

Live and learn. I bet that was in today’s OT list of statements that instantly make people hate the person saying it.

by Kermit. on May 6, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

No,

I’m still a little confused about how a straight joke was gay, myself, but I’m just gonna go with it…

the offseason sucks

by section331 on May 6, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOLY SHIT!

The puck has spent a lot of time in the Caps’ crease.

by ningwers on May 6, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's pretty much his style.

Nerve wracking but effective assuming your defense is there to clean up after you.

by ningwers on May 6, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

ouch

had a feeling that was coming

by Brian Floyd on May 6, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, nice backup by Yuni.

Never thought I would have said those words.

by Heydude on May 6, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Now that looks like a good sandwhich.

I’ll take that over a sirloin burger from Jack in the box or a “tiny little burger” from BK.

by Heydude on May 6, 2009 7:06 PM PDT reply actions  

No way

I forgot they had HoRam…I guess anything is possible

by SFMariner on May 6, 2009 7:19 PM PDT reply actions  

CLOSE!

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jeff Sullivan

THIS
IS
YOUR
LIFE!

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fellow Mariners faithful, advise me:

Should I stick with this game, or should I change over to the Nats/Dodgers game, where I have already guaranteed that the Nats will end the Dodgers’ home winning streak?

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Kershaw'd!

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although Kershaw is having a total James McDonald start.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What the shit

the Nats have the bases loaded against the Dodgers.

Oh wait Kershaw is pitching.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I told you it would happen!

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Nats break the Dodgers win streak at home

I won’t know what to think.

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers are going to rape Daniel Cabrera and the Nats.

Who was I kidding? This is going to be hideous.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Kershaw v. Cabrera?

What on earth made you think you would win this game?

by .Taylor on May 6, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Insensate optimism

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Dodgers have kind of sucked it up in Kershaw's starts

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear Garrett Olson

Throw strikes.

Love,
Taylor H

by .Taylor on May 6, 2009 7:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok, Come back time!

Watch that WE chart shoot up like a rocket!

by Fin on May 6, 2009 7:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Orlando Hudson has 10 doubles already

does anyone on the Mariners have 10 extra base hits yet?

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 7:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Here we go, comeback time now.

Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".

by Sinking Away on May 6, 2009 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Farnsworth is bad enough to let us make this game close.

"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker

by houseofprime on May 6, 2009 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

I would really like to ask Yuni about his approach at the plate.

I guess hes happy with to consistently have a .290 OBP every year.

"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker

by houseofprime on May 6, 2009 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I told you they suck when Kershaw pitches,

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by bluemax on May 6, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was quite an awful game... but does this mean Silva's out of the rotation?

Jesus I hope so

"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.

by gregrabble on May 6, 2009 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, he's done.

It was already made known going that tonight was his last stand.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on May 6, 2009 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you just seeing those for the first time?

Somehow the King has been made even more creepy

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on May 6, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck this team

I’d only miss Branyan, Bedard, and Felix if the entire 25 man roster vanished tonight.

by Graham MacAree on May 6, 2009 8:01 PM PDT reply actions  

STAY OUT OF THE CAR!

I’m just sayin’.

~The Official LookoutLanding Poster Who Dreams Of Doing Naughty Naughty Things To Russell Branyan~

by section331 on May 6, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gotta love PATIENCE.

Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".

by Sinking Away on May 6, 2009 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

This is the first game I just totally skipped.

Good to know I didn’t miss anything, other than WFB getting 2 hits.

by appleshampoo on May 6, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

"Royals Infect Mariners With Scurvy"

anyone want to point out to KC that scurvy isn’t infectious?

Now if they’d said the Royal’s had given the M’s The French Disease ….

by msb on May 6, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Did Marilyn French die of The French Disease?

What does this mean or is it an inside joke?

Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".

by Sinking Away on May 6, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nevermind. I googled it. I aways thought of it as The Italian Disease.

I feel like Gilda Radner. Sorry.

Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".

by Sinking Away on May 6, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

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