15-11, Chart
by Jeff Sullivan on May 4, 2009 10:01 PM PDT
in Seattle Mariners Game Recaps
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Biggest Contribution: Franklin Gutierrez, +33.1%
Biggest Suckfest: Felix, -42.6%
Most Important AB: Gutierrez homer, +25.5%
Most Important Pitch: Davis homer, -26.7%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): -34.6%
Total Contribution by Lineup: -15.4%
Total Contribution by Opposition: 0.0%
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How seriously do we take Felix's bad pitches/start (?) with the flu and all?
I mean, he was still missing bats like crazy, so it didn’t seem so bad.
I'm not particularly concerned
His stuff looked terrific.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 4, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what I thought, but the HRs always worry me.
But it seems like Texas always kills us. One of my earliest Mariners memories was losing a game in ’94 thanks to then-Ranger Canseco going yard a couple of times. It set a patter early in my life, and now Texas HR-fests seem normal.
by Robert Lintott on May 4, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He was due to allow some home runs
he’s now up to a pretty standard ~9% HR/FB.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 4, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome.
Thanks for the insta-analysis, as always.
by Robert Lintott on May 4, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the HR to Davis did come on a fastball right? I was too busy failing to catch it to check the velocity.
It seems strange to me that Adair goes out and talks to Felix about how to get Davis, a guy he’s K’d twice with almost exclusively breaking stuff, and then he starts throwing the guy fastballs. Is that one on Felix, or Adair?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 4, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Because they can
they’re the fucking Rangers. A guy with crazy power for them is like a guy who can make crazy contact for the Mariners.
by Bearskin Rugburn on May 4, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions
But David Murphy
and Andrus hitting 2nd.
by Mariner John on May 4, 2009 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions
And I found it
Fuck Canseco. It was this game. Anyone else remember that?
by Robert Lintott on May 4, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I remember it.
Texas and home runs have always been a pain. Expecially at The Ball Park in Arlington and the Kingdome. I don’t approve/appreciate them at Safeco at all.
Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".
by Sinking Away on May 4, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
From looking at Gameday
The pitch to Young was a fat slider up in the zone, so that was a bad pitch that he just destroyed.
The one to Davis actually looked like a good curveball and just a nice piece of hitting.
I was at the game but am shit for pitch recognition on balls in play, so I was curious to pull up Gameday when I got home.
Of course I am not a pitching analyst, and Jeff’s note about HR/FB is also relevant.
by appleshampoo on May 4, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
And I could've just scrolled to here.
Whoops
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 4, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sick of losing.
At least last year it was sort of fun, chasing SS and all.
Sarcasm?
It was a tough loss, but come on now.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on May 4, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
In my 15th year of doing this, it still eludes me
Though it’s easier to forgive Ichiro than almost anyone else for the last out.
by Robert Lintott on May 4, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm in 'blame Felix' mode rather than putting anything on our offence
They did all that could reasonably be expected from them.
by Graham MacAree on May 4, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd like to be
But a pitcher gets a terrible start every now and again. Erik got his last week, now it’s out of their system for the month. At least that’s what I’m trying to tell myself.
by Robert Lintott on May 4, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm sort of in "blame Felix flu" mode.
He wasn’t in top form, but I thought the offense could have saved him. Millwood was not Cy Young. If they could just learn some discipline. He threw a lot of pitches across the plate. Why couldn’t we hit any for runs in the first four innings?
Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".
by Sinking Away on May 4, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions
You need to culture a facade of studied ennui & sangfroid, like Jeff has.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Yep, especially since
it’s crazy to get worked up over just one [game], no matter how important.
I'm more like I am now than I've ever been.
Total Contribution by umpires: -97.4%
"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.
Johjima hit a ball to short to leadoff the bottom of the 9th
Andrus dove for it, threw from his knees and and “got the out.” I thought he was safe. Also, the throw may have pulled the first baseman off the bag.
Holy flaming buttholes did he look safe.
by Aaron Campeau on May 4, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I have never booed so heartily.
It really was not even close to being close.
by Aaron Campeau on May 4, 2009 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This was a tough one.
Felix won’t make excuses for himself, but he was feeling under the weather and I’ve got to think that led some of the hits he was giving up. Also, he threw too many fastballs that they had to know were coming. He got his share of Ks, but most of the hits came off of stuff that looked pretty easy to hit, especially the homerun to Davis.
The offense was actually more impressive than yesterday, if you didn’t watch the first four innings. During the first four, Millwood was looking very good against a bunch of batters who have no plate discipline. Although, with the number of strikes he threw, you would think some of our free swingers would have caught a break on one of them. And then they did. But it wasn’t enough tonight.
The ninth was frustrating due to the bad call at first on Johjima. That cost us the game. Gutz’s hit was no surprise (he is very disciplined and doesn’t appear to be scared when he’s down in the count). The Yuni walk was a welcomed surprise. I’m hoping that Wak talked to him and finally told him that if the 3rd base coach signals for him to take a pitch, he has to take a pitch. Yuni must know that Silva is in trouble, and maybe he knows he is too. I sure hope so. I hope this means he knows he’s on a short leash and if they need him to take a pitch, he needs to do that. His defense isn’t keeping him in the game and his offense is just offensive. Swing, popup and swing GIDP just really aren’t very productive.
Bedard can erase this tomorrow. So we’re still OK.
Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".
Technically he's correct in that it was a very close play and we had an iffy call go our way in the previous inning
by Jeff Sullivan on May 4, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Well technically but you damned well that's not what he's trying to do here.
by Aaron Campeau on May 4, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Excuse me.
For sharing a picture that might serve as a closer look at the play for you all to judge. I’m deeply sorry for trolling.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
It doesn't serve to do a damned thing.
Seriously, it’s totally inconclusive. Nothing about that picture is illuminating to anyone. He looked safe at the park but I’m willing to entertain the fact that he was out. And in the end, it doesn’t mater because that probably wasn’t the difference in the game in the least. But the manner in which you pulled that picture out quite clearly serves to annoy Mariners’ fans and it’s not like this is something new from LSB commenters.
by Aaron Campeau on May 4, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He was pretty clearly safe at the stadium as well.
It wasn’t especially close but it’s not like it matters.
by Aaron Campeau on May 4, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions
You posted a picture that shows absolutely nothing in the post game wrap-up thread at the losing team's blog.
That seems pretty damned trollish to me.
by Aaron Campeau on May 4, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
All that shows is that Davis caught the ball while Kenji's foot was still fully on the bag
"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.
Here's my best attempt
Incredibly close. Slow motion makes Kenji look safe, but good luck finding any umpire who’s going to see that as any better than a coin flip situation.
by Jeff Sullivan on May 4, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think slow motion is fair to the umpires
Umpires don’t have slow motion
by JI on May 4, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Saying "he's out!" at LSB=cool.
Coming to LL to say the same thing (with no track record here)=fucking annoying.
by Aaron Campeau on May 4, 2009 11:27 PM PDT up reply actions
In addition to the photo being of the ball in the glove as well as Kenji's foot on the base.
Only serving to show that he did, in fact, catch the ball.
...and now I'm here
Did I ever say he was out?
I posted it with only “Hm” as the subject line to let you all judge. Stop being such a fucking baby. good lord.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Relax
You couldn’t possibly have expected to get a positive response. How did you think people were going to react?
by Jeff Sullivan on May 4, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd ask you to be more passive-aggressive but you might break my scale
by Jeff Sullivan on May 4, 2009 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
How is your scale not calibrated for me?
by Matthew on May 4, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hmmm...
“that texas won the game and not the umps?”
If your intention was simply to have us “judge for ourselves” then why bother with this comment that, quite frankly, caused this sub thread to blow up to begin with?
Because
DAMellen asked. It’s not a big deal.
Texas won.
Seattle lost.
I’m a troll.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Shit.
I rightfully left myself wide open here.
Insinuating that you're pathetic is a dead meme
by Jeff Sullivan on May 5, 2009 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
See, I was going to make a reference to Tony S' play on the Jason Vargas photo from yesterday
and just post the same pic JI just did, but with a smaller width, therefore making it a tinier violin. But instead, I left the first comment too ambiguous.
But your penis is resplendant and magnificent
by Graham MacAree on May 5, 2009 12:07 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I often feel the need to look twice just to make sure that I see it all
by Robert on May 5, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is what she said to me about my penis!
by Aaron Campeau on May 5, 2009 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I have heard that your wonderful attitude toward small children and injured animals more than makes up for it!
(Also, my auto fill in suggested the following phrase after two words: “I have no idea why it would be doing that but try putting in” I am not sure when I ever typed that before and really really don’t want to go searching for it)
My attitude towards small children and injured animals is amusingly enough related to my original comment.
by Aaron Campeau on May 5, 2009 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions
This bracelet around my ankle is not in fact related to my Gypsy heritage.
by Aaron Campeau on May 5, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Apparently it's a sex offence to have your cock classified as a weapon of mass destruction
by Graham MacAree on May 5, 2009 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That paperwork is exhausting, too.
by royalcurve on May 5, 2009 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is the first time in LL history that someone has taken advantage of a golden opportunity to compliment the sexual prowess of a fellow commentor.
by Aaron Campeau on May 5, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions
ntalk?
That’s not a word, Robert. And it’s ix-nay, not ex-nay.
Whatever will I do with you.
Surprisingly enough I am quite alright with my cock being huge becoming a dead meme.
by Aaron Campeau on May 5, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions
It's better than your cock being dead as a huge meme
by Graham MacAree on May 5, 2009 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
They don't tell you about the side affects when you order it
and my the time they kick in you’re so addicted to the results that you go into denial.
by Aaron Campeau on May 5, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe she was being quite ironic and your dong is quite enormous.
by JI on May 5, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
In which case
That’s what she said!
(to me)
(because it means “Big dong”)
by JI on May 5, 2009 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions
I've just found an exclusive picture of Josh Hamilton's rehab assignment:
by Graham MacAree on May 5, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Money is so filthy dirty.
He can’t afford a straw? I thought he was a little better at this.
"...But with the at-bats that Willie (Bloomquist) had tonight, I don't know that I'm immediately going to take him out of the lineup." -Trey Hillman
Dude get with it that's a money straw.
It’s a straw made out of money.
by Aaron Campeau on May 5, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Very close but you can clearly tell in that picture that he's safe
It seems closer in slow motion though. Oh well – tough break, let’s go out there and beat the shit out of Padilla tomorrow
"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.
OH! I get it - this is supposed to show us his foot was on the bag.
Regardless, the argument is that Kenji was also safe (which is implied by his knee already bending on the base when the ball is about to be in the glove of the 1st baseman).
...and now I'm here
Losing always sucks
But this was at least a fun game to watch. Gutz is an amazing player to watch right now, just thinking about his value is amazing.
If Ichi just gets a LD there instead of a shallow fly…damn…
by appleshampoo on May 4, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope this game doesn't scare Felix into throwing more fastballs.
They hit a couple of pretty good breaking pitches, and one in particular for a HR. He also threw some pretty bad pitches but holy shit it’s fun to watch him when he’s mixing it up.
I screamed out laughing.
When the 3-0 pitch came in as a strike, I was 100% sure that we were going to have one of those “foul off a few more pitches then pop out” at-bats. Amazing that his first walk came at that point when failure looked so incredibly inevitable.
Yes and no.
Since it doesn’t reflect on him being any better, I was kind of hoping he’d go 0-fer all season. Or, if he was going to walk, do it in the bottom of the 9th, tied with the bases loaded.
But yeah, it was pretty hilarious. I think that was the most new comments on LL I’ve ever seen pop up at once. The black bar that shows new comments almost hit the top of my screen.
...and now I'm here
I dunno, for me it showed a small glimmer of hope that he might become a little more patient
I might be a fool though
"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.
Yeah, I think so dude.
Sorry homey.
...and now I'm here
In 23 games, Gutierrez has a .303/.384/.461 slashline with 10BB/16K and an .844 OPS
If he did that a whole year and keeps up his good defense, he’s an MVP caliber, 6 win player ( +20 batting, + 15 fielding, +25 replacement) – based off a quick glance at Grady Sizemore’s value stats. He’s almost certainly not going to do that, but an average wOBA gives makes him a 4 win player, and his ceiling (probably a .350 wOBA) makes him a 5 win player. Right now, at least, he looks like the second coming of Mike Cameron. And he’s a smart player in every aspect of the game, as the Sexy people and Dave Cameron have so pointed out.
He'd need roughly 750 PAs to get a +25 replacement boost, and that's not so likely
5.5 wins would probably be more realistic in this case. But holy fuck, 5.5 wins?! weeeeeeeeeeeee
I'm skeptical of his success to this point
but yeah, me too.
by Aaron Campeau on May 5, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions
We never had a guy draw 54 walks in high-A ball at age 18 and play great SS defense.
To be fair, we had a guy draw 45 walks split between lowA/High A at age 19 with above-average defense, but who the fuck wants that when you’ve got Oswaldo Navarro around?
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