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Fearloathing1_tiny by chrisisasavage on Comment 370 comments

So, my rootbeer experiment could have turned out better, it went bad faster than any beer I've made.  I'll have to use hops next time.  I scrapped it and made an IPA-Like beer with the rest of what I had.  We'll see how that turns out :)

I'm looking at making a lager of some kind.   I built a box out of styrofoam and a thermoelectric cooler, so hopefully I can keep the temps down during fermentation.

Anyone have any suggestions for craft lagers (Shmaltz Coney Island Lager is pretty good).

I'm thinking about doing a european style beer with American ingredients, or maybe a mix. I would like to try and find some good lagers (no, not coors), and do some comparisons, then try to formulate a beer based on that.  I've had a few, but thought I'd get some suggestions.

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Anyone have good BBQ Joint suggestions (or food in general).  Stans BBQ in Issaquah, and Pecos Pit in Seattle are the only two I've tried that I liked in the Seattle area. 

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Here's a question, I know good places to camp, and to backpack, but does anyone know of any good areas to mountain bike in and camp out?

 

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It is pretty out of the way, but I love Rooter's BBQ.

It is way out by Lake Sawyer. In general BBQ around here is poor.

by Sec 108 on May 15, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rooters!!

A little out of the way place I thought no one else knew about! Great BBQ and the best peanut butter chocolate shake I’ve ever had!

by basebliman on May 16, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I associate 360 with Olympia, the coast, the Peninsula and Whatcom County.

Is it just for random places in Western WA that aren’t 253, 206 and 425?

by Mariner John on May 18, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, the 206, 253 and 425 keep shrinking because of population growth.

The Lake Sawyer area was given the 360 during the most recent of these resizings of area code maps.

by Sec 108 on May 18, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most of Grays Harbor County uses the 360 area code.

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by Goose on May 18, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be the coast to me.

I guess it’s not technically as far as Aberdeen goes.

by Mariner John on May 18, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Correct

John really had it right by saying it’s for the non 425/206/253 parts of Western WA

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by tootthekazoo on May 18, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BBQ downtown: Chuck's Hole, Kau Kau (chinese). That's about it.

I’m 11 days away from being done conditioning my latest ale, a sort of take on Delirium Tremens but concentrating a 5# recipe down into 3.5# by just subtracting water. I cannot recall the O.G. figure, but my hydro put it at ~20% and the airlock was bubbling for about 8 days. If it mellows enough it’s going to be easily the best thing I’ve brewed yet (not saying much).

by Matthew on May 15, 2009 3:04 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

How long are you conditioning the beers for

Most beers I’d carbonate, then cellar for a month before cracking. High alcohol beers take longer to mellow out. If it’s 1.020 FG, my guess would be 1.080-1.090 OG (8-9.5% depending on the yeast, amounts of dextrin and other unfermentables in the wort, and fermentation temperature). That’s a WAG of course. I doubt you used a low attenuation strain, as they tend to finish in just a few days, so it’s probably on the high side of my OG WAG. I’m guessing a 9% beer or so, but again, just a guess.

I’ve take a hiatus on beer brewing. It got expensive, and I live in the upper level of an apartment. I’m getting a house next month (YAY!!!!) and will be able to resume. I made my latest beer because I had ingredients I didn’t want to go bad.

I’d love to tackle an eisbock. I think it might be illegal here because of the freeze distillation. That didn’t stop me from doing an Ice Brown Ale (an over malted Brown ale that I freeze distilled).

by chrisisasavage on May 15, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously it varies.

But for this particular ale I had a set plan of doing a 10-day primary ferm at a stable temp (~72F), a 10-day secondary to settle out the yeast (Wyland’s Belgian Strong Ale yeast) a bit and then carb + bottle and sit for 21 days at min. I have an whisky oak scotch ale that I’ve been cellaring for just over a month now so I’m looking forward to giving that another try this weekend.

I have the OG written down at home on my recipe sheet, but I believe it was about 1.15.

I had been pondering doing a freeze distillation recently as well, but low level experiments didn’t fare too well, probably needed a bigger test volume.

by Matthew on May 15, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you mean

20% ABV or a final gravity of 20? I’ve never tried something over 9%.

by chrisisasavage on May 17, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kau Kau is an absolute must.

Jones in Columbia City has really good brisket.

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by royalcurve on May 15, 2009 3:14 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cave Man Kitchen in Kent is always a good choice

There is also the Cedar River Smokehouse in “old” downtown Renton. I’ve taken many a well-traveled person there who have said it’s some of the best they’ve had out West

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by tootthekazoo on May 15, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I tried Caveman once and wasn't impressed

That was 12 years ago though, so I could give it another chance.

by chrisisasavage on May 15, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is good camping and mountain biking in Anacortes.

The mountain biking in the Anacortes Community Forest Lands is fun, especially in the Whistle Lake area. I would consider it beginning to intermediate level biking, but the trails are multi-use so you’ll see lots of hikers and some horse back riders. You can’t camp in the ACFL, but you can camp at Washington Park. That’s a family state park style camp ground, but it is nice and there are some excellent views to be had.

by Jed MC on May 15, 2009 3:31 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

There is no good BBQ in Seattle

There is acceptable stuff, but nothing good.

I might be willing to trade BBQ for beer though. You bring the beer to me, and I have my smoker going.

by arbeck77 on May 15, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know. . . I had terrible experiences with it.

Case in point: I ordered a pulled pork sammich at one joint and the waiter asked me if I wanted it “Memphis Style.” I was like what the fuck is Memphis style? When he explained that it is when they put cole slaw on the sandwich I had to tell him, dude that ain’t Memphis style, that is just the way it’s supposed to be. Seriously, if someone handed me a pulled pork sandwich without slaw on it I would look at them like they were half retarded. And that’s the good half. Most of my BBQ experiences were similar.

I never tried some of the places mentioned so far though, so I’ll definitely give it another shot.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on May 15, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For one that guys is an idiot and that's not what makes Memphis style

and for two there is absolutely a Memphis style and it is the best style. Vinegar and mustard based sauce, dry rubbed with a regionally developed spice mix and pit cooked in either a pit or a slow cooker.

by acblue on May 15, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not if you took a bite.

Come on Graham, live a little try something different. It’s not like I’m asking you to try some tasty whale blubber dipped in fish oil.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on May 15, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually tried that. The Fishtail brewery in Oly serves pulled-pork with slaw on it.

I took one bite, then I carefully removed all of the slaw, ate it, then reminded myself to stick to the fish and chips or shawarma.

by marc w on May 15, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously!

Order a pulled pork anywhere in the south and expect it to come with slaw on it.

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by thewyrm on May 15, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey we agree on something

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by I'm NOT Corco on May 15, 2009 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh no I agree with Corco.

Cole slaw is delicious.

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by Goose on May 16, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good slaw

has a coating or even no mayo

by chrisisasavage on May 16, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just as a reference,

Mayo is made from vegetable oil and egg yolks.

I assume you have a fear of Hollandaise and/or crepe batter?

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by Faux on May 18, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not disputing the slaw argument so much as the anti-mayo contingent.

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by Faux on May 18, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The anti mayo thing amuses me.

It is something I can understand though because if anyone puts mushrooms on my food I will puke on them just to spite them.

by Sec 108 on May 18, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what mayo is made out of and I have no problem with either substance separately.

I don’t like Hollandaise either. Crepe batter also has flour in it, and the physical characteristics are entirely different once cooked. Lots of things have egg and oil in them, but it’s the texture/flavor of mayo that gets me. I honestly don’t know why it I feel that way, just that I do and am repulsed by mayo or mayo-based sauces.

by abender20 on May 18, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That is my exact issue

The flavor and texture of mayo repulse me. I’ll eat stuff with chipotle mayo on it, but the taste and consistency are quite different

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by tootthekazoo on May 18, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Slaw on a sandwich is proper

for NC-style (eastern or western) ‘que, but I’ve never heard of that being done for Memphis.

I still haven’t found proper NC barbecue anywhere in the Seattle area. Just as they do for the annual UNC alumni barbecue, I Fed-Ex it out here for my dad’s birthday. There is a new place in Redmond called Carolina Kitchen, but I haven’t tried it yet.

by serotonein on May 15, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't found it

I’ve heard Pecos Pit is decent, but because I work in Bellevue and they’re only open for lunch I’ll never know.

Jones isn’t very good and they smother their stuff with sauce.

Caveman is mediocre at best.

Roy’s is OK, but taste more like crockpot cooked meat than slow smoked meat… not enough bark for me.

Ranch House BBQ in Olympia is not bad, but not really convenient unless you live down there.

I haven’t found anything locally that measures up to your average place in Oklahoma and Texas where I used to live.

Plus, BBQ is super cheap and super easy to make. All you need is time, and it’s a perfect excuse to drink beer.

by arbeck77 on May 15, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is fantastic BBQ all over the country.

The problem is people find something like REALLY like and then they stop giving other variations a chance.

by Sec 108 on May 15, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like pretty much all variations of BBQ

except BBQ Bologna that’s popular in Oklahoma. You can keep that!

BUT, I don’t like BBQ restaurants that try to be all things. When I see wet and dry pork ribs, hot links, brisket, pulled pork, beef rips, and more on the menu; I tend to believe it’s not going to be that good. The best restaurants are the ones that focus.

by arbeck77 on May 15, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I understand that. There are rare exceptions to that rule.

The place I linked above has been in business since I was a kid which was not yesterday. They have a menu that has grown over the years, but when they first started there were maybe six things on the menu.

by Sec 108 on May 15, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm actually not a huge fan of Memphis BBQ

Mainly because pork ribs aren’t my favorite thing. I really prefer North Carolina style pulled pork and Texas style brisket.

Though if I’m going to eat ribs, Memphis dry ribs are about the greatest way you can prepare them.

by arbeck77 on May 15, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Smokin' Pete's is good but it's not really focused.

They try to do everything and so nothing is really excellent.

by acblue on May 15, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well maybe a better phrased response would have been "I have not found good BBQ in Seattle" then

because to dismiss an entire enterprise like you did without substantial evidence to back it up raises my ire.

by Matthew on May 15, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would this work

I have not found any good BBQ in Seattle, and have not had anyone I trust find it either. I’ve discussed this many times on the Seattle Forums on Chow, and no one has really found anything that’s great. I do have high hopes for Maximus Minimus, a new street vendor that’s about to open up.

But like I said, I can be bribed with beer to make BBQ for others. I’m no where near as good as the best restaurants that I’ve been to, but I’m more than acceptable.

by arbeck77 on May 15, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It just smacks of Joe Morgan to me.

And irks me in the same way as when people complain about an restaurant not being authentic enough.

by Matthew on May 15, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The authentic restaurant thing annoys the crap out of me.

Good food is good and I don’t care how it gets that way.

by acblue on May 15, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Though I have no problem with authenticity being discussed, I have just seen it used as a proxy for quality far far too often.

Also, damn SBN, there was a blacket before restaurant with the phrase “insert ethnic”.

by Matthew on May 15, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's funny is that most people that use authentic as a proxy for quality

are often the kind of people that love fusion cuisine. Which I do as well, but you get my point.

by acblue on May 15, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, there's authentic fusion and there's the ridiculously fake, plastic, talentless fusion you get so many places

but especially in a backwater hick village like Seattle.
If you’d spent a lot of time in NYC, I think you’d understand where I’m coming from. Since you haven’t, you really just need to trust me on this, because I just don’t think anyone from here can develop a palate for fusion that reliably separates the wheat from the chaff, or, as a wonderful chef from Milan once told me over a glass of Barolo, “If you like New York so much, move there you ridiculous cock-breathed asshat.”

by marc w on May 15, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well it seems like the kind of thing

where you could be giving your actual opinion in a ridiculously over the top manner for comedic effect, but it could just as easily be pure satire.

by acblue on May 15, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of authentic, Pioneer square has a halfway decent cajun joint.

With an authentic coonass behind the grill. I was a little upset the waitress couldn’t pronounce my Cajun last name though.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on May 15, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't care about authenticity

I just want it to taste good.

by arbeck77 on May 15, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've heard wonderful things about Pecos Pit

But because of it’s hours, and where I work I can’t eat there.

by arbeck77 on May 16, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love Pecos Pit

The hours suck though. Fairly authentic as well.

by chrisisasavage on May 16, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try Stans in Issaquah

It’s good. I’ve tried a lot of Q and it and Pecos pit are the only places.

by chrisisasavage on May 15, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BBQ

I think Dickerson’s South Bay in Oly is at least as good as Ranch House. Just ate there for lunch, though it was a bit off today.

I liked JT’s Louisiana style in Tacoma, but they moved (to New Jersey), but it’s been replaced by another BBQ place claiming to do Mississippi-style bbq. Haven’t tried it yet.

by marc w on May 15, 2009 4:06 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The new Manchester Orchestra album is thouroughly enjoyable on first listen.

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by Woodinville_12thMan on May 15, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

So apparently Baseball Mogul Online has been bought, or taken, by another company.

For the time being it’s free to join and play in leagues. I was thinking that we could create another LL BMO League. Anyone interested?

by Coach Owens on May 15, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would be up for doing this again.

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by Goose on May 16, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Greatest film of all time coming soon?

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by thewyrm on May 15, 2009 4:42 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's a different BBQ question ...

good BBQ that isn’t too spicy/hot? I love the flavor (both tomato & mustard) but it seems sometimes that there is a competition to heat it up too much (“have you met the man?”)

beer? cheap ‘draughtflow’ cans of Tetley & Boddingtons.

by msb on May 15, 2009 5:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Definately Stans

Their mild sauce is tangy, and just a hair sweet and a hair spicy, but not much of either.
http://www.stansbarbq.com/

by chrisisasavage on May 15, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good BBQ should never be spicey

I put very little spice into the rubs of my pork, and none at all onto my brisket. I use only 1 teaspoon of cayene for the pork rub compared to .25 cup of sugar. My brisket rub is basically salt and pepper (with some secrets I’m not giving away!). The real spice is in the sauce. However, I don’t believe BBQ should ever be served with the sauce already on it. Good meat doesn’t even really need the sauce.

If you are a fan of sauce though, the style of the BBQ is what’s important in knowing if you’re going to get heat. Both vinegar based Carolina sauces are quite spicy usually. South Carolina mustard sauces are spicy, but from the mustard and not chilies. Memphis sauce is usually not that spicy at all, and what spice there is is well balanced by the sugar. Kansas City sauce is sweeter and less spicy than Memphis. Texas sauce is the hottest of the ketchup based sauces. The key is to know what style the restaurant is serving, and making sure they let you sauce the meat yourself.

by arbeck77 on May 16, 2009 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh...
Good BBQ should never be spicey

I tend to prefer barbecue that’s not especially spicy, but I’ve had some damned fine spicy barbecue too.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just don't think the meat itself should be spicy

A spicy sauce is fine. But the sauce should always be on the side. BBQ should be about the flavor of the meat and the smoke.

by arbeck77 on May 16, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HooSoonYi on Aurora is real nice for Korean grill.

It’s been discovered a bit so they have a white person menu now.

by waldo rojas on May 15, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

FYI

There is also a HooSoonYi way down south in Tacoma, I know practically in Portland.

by melenious on May 18, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Awesome.

I may check it out this weekend.

by marc w on May 19, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yay.

Another fellow Tacompton person, though I moved to F-Dub in 3rd grade.

HoSoonYi is technically a tofu stew house, though they do have Korean bbq there. Here is the Tacoma link.

If you don’t mind venturing to F-Dub, here is an all you can eat Korea bbq restaurant.

Happy eating!

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by melenious on May 19, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, bar recommendations.

I’m looking for somewhere to go tomorrow night that has outdoor seating and good beer. Bonus points for Capitol Hill/CD/Downtown/South Seattle. Not Brouwers.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It seems like adding outdoor seating increases the douche level 1000%.

Despite the fact that they don’t have any beer on tap Sun Liquor seems somewhat appealing for such a day; Zywiec is nice and there’s always Knob Creek with a Speakeasy Prohibition back…

by acblue on May 16, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you been to Loretta's in South Park yet?

Typical Seattle taps so you may not be pumped about that part, but it is owned by the guy who owns 9lb Hammer. They have a backyard area with a decent amount of seats. It is pretty busy on days like this, but I usually find the crowd to be very old school Seattle and fun.

Lorretta’s

by Sec 108 on May 16, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good to know!

I’ve been wanting to check out more of the South End, so I’ll definitely keep that in mind.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a great tip... I'll check this out someday.

9lb hammer was quality the one time I visited….

by marc w on May 17, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know I'm late.

But, I am a fan of Linda’s in Cap Hill.

by melenious on May 18, 2009 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I was inspired by this, and treked out for some Dogfish 60 Minute IPA (They didn't have 90)

But I also took the plunge into single-bottle beers and got this. Does anyone know anything about it? There is no one helpful at this beer store (fucking Maryland) so I had to take a guess.

by rlintott on May 16, 2009 4:32 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fin du Monde is my favorite golden ale (you heard me) and one of my top five favorite beers.

As Graham said below, most everything they make is excellent. I’m partial to (aside from Fin du Monde, obviously) Trois Pistoles and Maudite. They also brew a Belgian strong ale for Trader Joe’s every year around Christmas that costs $5 for a 750ml bottle. It’s pretty much the best beer bargain you’re likely to find and I buy a ton of it every winter.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well a snifter or tulip is certainly ideal

any glass is better than no glass. A session glass is probably your second choice. If not a pint glass will be fine.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pint.

Pilsner glass is going to kill the aroma and you might end up with a gigantic head.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fantastic. And one last question (sorry, like I said, new to this giant bottle, single-beer thing)

Since it obviously won’t all fit in a pint, do you put the bottle back in the fridge while you drink the first pint, or do you leave the bottle out?

by rlintott on May 16, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you planning to drink the whole thing in one sitting?

If so, leave it out. If not, I am the wrong person to ask.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like I said, you're asking the wrong person here.

I would assume you are correct about the cork, but usually they end up as cat toys about third seconds after I uncork a bottle so I have no idea.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And to follow up, you'll want to let it sit at least 20 minutes out of the fridge.

I drink everything but pals, ambers and lagers at room temp, but I know not everyone does. Still, you’ll enjoy it more if it warms up a bit.

by acblue on May 16, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm looking for a hockey team for which to root.

I live in Washington, and don’t want to root for someone too far away. But, seeing as there aren’t any local teams, who can I root for and get away with it? I don’t want to seem like I’m jumping on any bandwagons. I have become more interested in hockey over the past year or so and want to throw my hat in with a team.

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by JLProck on May 17, 2009 5:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To me hockey has a bunch of teams I like and a bunch I don't

I’ve always rooted for: Chicago, Calgary, Edmonton, Vancouver, San Jose, Nashville, Atlanta, Columbus, Washington
I’ve always disliked: Colorado, Detroit, Carolina, Dallas, Rangers, Leafs

I’ve never really rooted for any one team though. In video games I’ve usually chosen the Canucks though. The Blackhawks have a good core of talent with Havlat, Seabrook, Toews, Kane, Byfuglien (I don’t know how good he is but I remember he’s black and has an awesome name), etc. I haven’t followed hockey very closely for a year though so maybe I don’t know much.

by Mariner John on May 17, 2009 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

$9.99. Nine dollars and ninety-nine cents. That's only a dollar more than I paid for a bottle of Grand Cru at BevMo.

On the plus side, my fridge is now stuffed with beer, and I got the last 6er of Pipeline Porter in that BevMo’s fridge.

by abender20 on May 18, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your BevMo! still had Pipeline Porter?!

I went yesterday and ended up just picking up some more Stone Imperial Russian Stout and a sixer of Flying Dog’s white (I’ll let you know how that one is, I wanted a witbier, don’t judge me)

by seattlebruin on May 18, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was surprised. I expected to see only Wailua Wheat and the rest of their full run products.

I entertained hope that I’d find some Pipeline, though.

If you do the short leg of the relay, I’ll bring some Pipeline.

by abender20 on May 18, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just heard about this on the radio

Belgian weightlifting event canceled. Doping officials showed up to do drug tests and every one of the participants ran away

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by tootthekazoo on May 18, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Craigslist barred #7

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by Faux on May 18, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by abender20 on May 18, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

You know, a lot of people are taking up drugs to deal with being laid off.

Untapped Market!

Especially if you remind them that their brothers in law still have jobs and all that nice stuff in their houses that’s probably worth a lot of money.

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by Faux on May 18, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have youtube access, so someone else is going to have to find this,

but Son of Dave is a pretty good band that others should listen to.

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by Faux on May 18, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't realize there was a women list.

And how did he get it so, so wrong?

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by Faux on May 18, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm, it's a wiki post.

Also, why?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on May 18, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has anyone been to a show at Neumos?

Capitol Hill.
How safe would it/the area be for a 19 year old girl to be by herself? Of course there would be others from the show but I’m curious about walking around beforehand, in the late afternoon.
I’m just not familiar with the area so I guess I’m looking for advice/comfort.

by krb on May 18, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It's perfectly safe.

I don’t know what else to add to that, but you really have nothing to worry about in that neighborhood in the daytime. Or at night, either. There are several bars/clubs in the area, so there’s always people around, and during the day, it’s just a normal ’hood.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on May 18, 2009 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You will be fine.

It is really close to Broadway and Seattle U, so you will not be the only 19yo female walking around on her own.

by Sec 108 on May 18, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Seattle Central CC

So yes, you’ll be fine.

by marc w on May 18, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, thanks to the three of you.

I’m a total hermit, I tend to get nervous about things like that, so thanks.

by krb on May 18, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Johnny Damon has

10 HR and a .435 wOBA. He also has an ISO of ..303, and I’m confused as to why no one is talking about his year so far.

by Zwakamatsu on May 18, 2009 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You know who no one is talking about (except dave c. at fangraphs)?

Ramon fucking Santiago.
Wee little Ramon is slugging .611 so far, and has 3 HRs in not many PAs. This would all be hilarious and SSS theater and all, but if you add last year’s stats to his start this year, he’s now gone 200+ PAs with a slash line of around .300/.400/.500. The same Ramon Santiago who used to struggle in Tacoma.

by marc w on May 19, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try selling cars and having people go nuts like that when filling out financing paperwork

It always baffled me how somebody could expect to purchase a car without providing any personal information

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on May 19, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still have to provide your Social Security Number

As well as name, address, phone number. People didn’t even want to give that info sometimes

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by tootthekazoo on May 19, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That would be pretty hilarious

Although my “shady person/criminal” alarm would be going off at that point.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on May 19, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Can I do a trade in? Here is a 2007 CLS 55. I bought it, but I just don't like German cars.

For some reason, it has a strange manufacturing defect where instead of printing a VIN, they just scratched the metal plate with a chisel a bunch of times."

by abender20 on May 19, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never did experience that one, though I'm sure it's happened plenty

I did sell a car to a guy that used it to rob a bank the next day. Unless everybody wants to see the long story here, email me and I’ll update whoever wants to know. It was just a weird deal start to finish

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on May 19, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might be a bit, but I'll type it out and see

Definitely one of them stories that works better verbally, but I’ll make a draft and throw it in here. I’ll make it a separate comment so it’s not squished over to the side here

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on May 19, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apropos of entirely nothing

I desperately want Villa to beat Newcastle this weekend so Newcastle get relegated. I just don’t like them. A draw’s not enough, Villa – go for their fat Geordie throats.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on May 18, 2009 5:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I of course have no opinion on this subject

And will be frantically not paying attention.

GO VILLIANS

by NOLAmarinergirl on May 19, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow, that's messed up

I’m not even a huge Mel Brooks fan and that really bothers me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on May 19, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that would require remaking House of Payne

Maybe someone who’s more clued into these things can enlighten me – why is Tyler Perry considered funny? I’ve seen some of his shows, and parts of some of his movies, and they’re just not that funny, at least not to me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on May 19, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess it's not far off from other stuff on TV.

Tyler Perry’s brand of humor is a lowest common denominator style of humor similar to anything Fox offers up as a sitcom (or a lot of CBS trash). The only difference is that Perry’s is aimed at the black community. Instead of stupid jokes about nerdy white dads and horribly scripted middle class white families, Perry’s stuff appeals to the analogous subset of the black population. I don’t find anything humorous about the awful white people sitcoms, and so I certainly don’t find anything funny about Perry as I’m another degree of separation away from appreciating his shows/movies.

The point in general, I guess, is that, upbringing aside, he isn’t funny. He’s just especially unfunny to white people. If you’re an idiot and you’re white, there are all kinds of shows that entertain stupid white people. He’s just filling a different niche.

by abender20 on May 19, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's kinda what I thought

I don’t find lowest-common-denominator humor of any race, gender, or whatever else funny, so that makes sense.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on May 19, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow.
The point in general, I guess, is that, upbringing aside, he isn’t funny.

That is some MVP level comma usage.

by abender20 on May 19, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, now you're just being silly.

They have to do Blazing Saddles, The Musical first.

by msb on May 19, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do I not doubt Mel Brooks is working on this as we speak?

Oh wait, because he is. Granted, it’s been a year since this came out, but still.

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on May 19, 2009 8:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If that's true, I'm going to burn TBS headquarters to the ground. That is absolutely appalling.

Tyler Perry is awful and nowhere near Clevon Little, and Sean William Scott is the antithesis of Gene Wilder. Why not cast it with Anthony Anderson and Ben Affleck?

This all goes back to my previous point about no 80% of Hollywood not having had an original thought in years.

by abender20 on May 19, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They got their director: Michael Bay

He loves remakes (he produced friday the 13th last year, as well as directing the Transformers remake), and wanted a change of pace.

Sounds awful, but I’m trying to keep an open mind. Hell, his reputation might help Perry/Scott to focus a bit more.

by marc w on May 19, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All the focus in the world doesn't change the fact that a remake will not do justice to the original.

Nothing about Blazing Saddles is lost in translation due to the time period in which it was made, so a remake will only serve as a vehicle to make money and piss off fans of the original.

by abender20 on May 19, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it's been over 30 years. It's not like Mel Brooks comedies are sacrosanct

And yes, they’re vehicles to make money. This isn’t public television.

I’m legitimately curious to see what Bay could do with it. I can’t imagine him doing straight comedy, so it’ll either be a Bad Boys sort of thing, or it’ll be hilariously bad.

Speaking of Bad Boys, I’m somewhat shocked Bay wasn’t able to get Martin Lawrence for the lead role, but Perry’s hot right now, so….

by marc w on May 19, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shitty thing is that with the way Hollywood has been lately, it's hard to know whether that's a joke or not

Hell, I’m sure that on some blog right now somebody is mentioning how he saw on Lookout Landing, a well-respected movie-insiders blog, that Michael Bay is definitely on board to direct a remake of Blazing Saddles

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on May 19, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was hoping we'd just run with this

“Yeah, and all the extras will be naked”
“Oh, and there’s a zombie sub-plot in the new one”

by marc w on May 19, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any movie with a zombie subplot is automatically a better film

Take, for example, Traffic. How much less would that film have sucked if at least two of the stories concerned zombies? Okay, maybe that’s a bad example, Traffic is still awful, but anyway. Zombies = BOX OFFICE GOLD!

Nice Guys Finish Third - My semantics are a waste of time.

by pdb on May 19, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

Someone needs to be shot.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on May 19, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Common knowledge to many

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on May 19, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey! I am not a troll!

I’m only here to discuss why Gavin Rossdale/Bush/Sixteen Stone are vastly superior lead singer, band, and album in every respect to Vedder/Pearl Jam/Ten. I don’t really see the problem here.

by Kermit. on May 19, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For the Red Dawn story? Lots of links

Here for example, which includes a teaser about a Darren Aronofsky remake of Robocop.

by marc w on May 19, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's ok, I was just trying to prevent more flying off the handle

… having entertained myself most of the afternoon visually how many roles in the remake Tyler Perry would play ("Have you ever seen anything so cruel?!" )

one of the (now dead) remake notions that sounded intriguing was Robert Rodriguez & Barbarella ..

by msb on May 19, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know much about adopting dogs.

I wish I knew more, but we got Mai, my Corgi, from a breeder. What kind of dog are you thinking about getting?

by Decatur on May 19, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make sure you get a good read on his temperment.

I’ve never seen a man more universally loved by dogs than my dad. Yet the only dog that’s ever bitten him – or not fallen for him instantly – is the beagle my mom owned when my parents met. The dog liked my mom just fine, but it despised my dad, and my parents put the dog down when they decided to get married. That’s not a knock on all beagles, of course. I’ve known several wonderful beagles. This is anecdotal, of course, but their temperment is something to research up on before making a big choice in life like buying a dog.

This is way more depressing that I intended, so…

by Decatur on May 19, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They can get lost in a phone booth, no kidding.

They like to follow their noses, cute dogs though.

by Kermit. on May 19, 2009 9:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did not end up adopting from them

But I did deal with Seattle Purebred Dog Rescue when I was looking to adopt a dog last year. They seemed helpful and were very thorough as far as making sure that I would be a good owner.

by EJO on May 19, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure this is a long shot, anyone here a fan of CKY?

Dedicated group of guys with talent in an otherwise polluted group of bad mainstream rock bands. Definitely not run of the mill type stuff.

Their new album dropped today, you can stream it here.
Do yourself a favor and at least listen to some tracks from it. Maybe pick it up if your into it.

by krb on May 19, 2009 6:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If anyone is interested.

A company my brother does a lot of work with has some cool Sounders Wallpapers for download on their site.

by Sec 108 on May 20, 2009 7:56 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cooking question...

I have recently come across a home carbonator, which is a happy way of saying I can use my old paintball CO2 bottles to make seltzer water.

How much bacon does anyone think would be needed to infuse a simple syrup with enough taste to come through in a soda? How long should I simmer it? Any ideas on straining out the fat (I think it should be lighter than the syrup, but maybe not)?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on May 20, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I was also thinking about making it some combination of maple/simple syrups.

Then infusing the bacon. Sort of like a breakfast soda?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on May 20, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're a damn genius is what you are.

I would pay good money for that. Or, I guess I could just make bacon and put some maple syrup on it.

♥

by royalcurve on May 20, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm rather surprised that you haven't been making your own soda for years.

And with the LL bacon discussions, beaten me to the punch on this one.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on May 20, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In Portland for the weekend

Going to Rogue just changed my life.

Did you fall in love with Miguel Batista? And he rejected you?

by melenious on May 23, 2009 11:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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