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  • Remember that game against Texas where Felix missed a bunch of bats but still got torched? Jarrod Washburn today: 13 swinging strikes, 2 foul tips, eight line drives on 19 balls in play. Perhaps this is their M.O.

  • There's no reason why Griffey should've been up there against CJ Wilson with men on the corners and one out in the 10th. Don Wakamatsu does a lot of things I like, but he needs to learn to pinch-hit for people during a game. Just because he has limited options doesn't mean there aren't still opportunities for him to make a difference by going to the bench, and I feel like he wasted a big one.

  • Elvis Andrus is incredible. I don't care if he's a Ranger. I love him. You can get mad at a pitcher for celebrating after a strikeout, and you can get mad at a hitter for showboating after a home run, but I don't think you can ever get mad at a defender for making a magnificent play. If Andrus turns into the guy we thought Yuni was going to be, then that'll make him one of the more underrated assets in baseball.

  • All of a sudden, Sean White isn't throwing 94 anymore. He was, however, flashing a pretty good changeup tonight, so I won't get too worried. I will, however, be wary.

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I think the kid is going to be a superstar in a few years. No wonder the Rangers wanted to move Michael Young off of short to slot him in there. Young has to be happy as crap as he’s hitting well and he gets to watch Andrus field like a frikkin’ superfiend next to him.

by Bodhizefa on May 14, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can't possibly be mad at Elvis Andrus

He just makes outstanding plays. He’s just a joy to watch out there.

by ThundaPC on May 14, 2009 2:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Goddamnit Yuni.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.429 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on May 14, 2009 2:23 AM PDT reply actions  

The Texiera deal might be the turning point for the AL WEst for a few years

It lost the Angels their young 1B and kept them from acquiring someone else, plus 3 of the 5 guys Texas got from Atlanta are already starters with Feliz in AAA and Jones looking like a MLB reliver.

At this point I just hope the Berdard nets a good return and the Nats are idiots.

I like the rebuild effort, centered around pitching and defense. I understand that the team is going to be in flux offensively. But the next 2 years or so is going to suck for Mariners fans.

by laxtonto on May 14, 2009 8:03 AM PDT reply actions  

the next 2 years or so is going to suck for Mariners fans.

There’s no reason to believe that

by Poochie on May 14, 2009 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

So you think that this year will magically change the offense?

and then this off season all the possible FA stay? And then the teams adds FA to improve the lineup? That would be what it would take for it to happen in less than 2 years.

I figure a 2 year cycle is the quick route accepting that one of Beltre or Bedard gets traded if the team is out of it.

That leaves you with hopefully whoever was drafted, plus a player in trade plus hopefully somebody in system plus maybe a FA in 2 years to use as a core. I have a hard time believing that a 1 year turnaround is really possible with how the team is structured right now. Add into that next FA class sucks and there leaves little room outside of trades for external improvement.

And I am with Graham on the Ackley band wagon. I think he is going to be pretty damn good.

by laxtonto on May 14, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was from

Cot’s, by the way. And we have a solid fielding lefties (which is key for Safeco and for fixing our current lineup’s weaknesses) in Michael Saunders and Mike Carp tearing the cover off the ball in AAA and some solid catching talent in Moore, etc.. They look to be league average players in 2010. We will be much better next year.

by Decatur on May 14, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be pissed if Griffey returned.

I get that some athletes don’t want to call it quits, but Griffey needs to hang ’em up after this season.

Free Jeffie!
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on May 14, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

If Griffey loves playing baseball and someone is willing to employ him,

he should continue playing baseball. I just would prefer that he isn’t the best option available to the Mariners. As much as I can’t stand watching him hit now, I realize that there weren’t exactly a ton of options when he was signed. If that’s still the case next year, I’d be concerned for the team. I doubt it will be the case, though.

by abender20 on May 14, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

That seems optimistic.

I’d expect something like a league average player for his first two years up. Unless he plays a +10 corner or something.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 14, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could see him being league average pretty easily

Much above that and you’re starting to dream. He strikes out waaaaaay too much right now

by Graham MacAree on May 14, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then again look at Balentien's season so far

and there is a guy who had huge holes in his swing just a year ago. Saunders, I think, is a better talent than Balentien.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 14, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever we don't need lef... wait, Feldman did WHAT?

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 14, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be pretty happy with a Wlad/Saunders platton in LF in '10,

although I would also like to see Wlad get more regular playing time.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 14, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Use DH as a Clement/Balentien juggle as well

Not a strict platoon but enough to get Wlad some starts in with Clement pushing Joh to the bench occaisionally

by Graham MacAree on May 14, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he comes back, where he belongs -

4th OF/PR/defensive replacement.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 14, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had just put together this .gif of andrus this morning

hope you don’t mind.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on May 14, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't get it

Why is he leaving his feet? I’m pretty sure shortstops aren’t supposed to do that.

by Jeff Sullivan on May 14, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lmao.

I was so used to MY at short I had forgotten that these plays were even remotely possible.

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by Brandon Worley on May 14, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think MY combined range for last season

covers as much distance as Elvis did in that highlight reel….

But… But… But… You can’t move Micheal Young, He won a gold glove….. God I hate hearing that.

That kid is going to be good for a long time

by laxtonto on May 14, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Stone:
Erik Bedard has a tight right hamstring, and manager Don Wakamatsu just told us that he’ a likely scratch for his next start, which was to be Saturday at Safeco against the Red Sox. Garrett Olson is likely to get the start. The Mariners don’t think the injury to Bedard — who tweaked his hammy in his last start — is serious enough for the disabled list. They think he will be able to pitch soon if they don’t push it.

Ronny Cedeno and Wladimir Balentien are both back in the lineup, as is Mike Sweeney. I’ll have much more — including Don Wakamatsu’s explanation for why he didn’t pinch-hit for Ken Griffey Jr. — once I transcribe my tape.

by Poochie on May 14, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Color me interested.

Wak better have a good reason, and not just some “He told me that he felt good and that he thought he could get a hit” bullshit. That’s something Hargrove or McLaren would say.

Free Jeffie!
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on May 14, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could be because Junior had some terrible at bats last night; Wak seems to be on a war path.

I am assuming you’re referring to Sweeney, by the way, cause the other moves make all kinds of sense.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 14, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Should have clarified.

I’m referring to leaving Junior in against Wilson last night.

Free Jeffie!
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on May 14, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh that

he hasn’t pinch hit for Griffey all season. IIRC he’s only pinch hit for guys like Johnson and Chavez so far, which is a bit troubling. Then again it’s not the most flexible bench so…

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 14, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, I thnk we're all with you on that.

"Even the stupidest of men, by some instinct of nature, is convinced on his own that with more observations his risk of failure is diminished."
-Jacques Bernoulli Ars conjectandi 1713

by Bearskin Rugburn on May 14, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

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