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It's Tempting To Just Say "Okay, I Give Up"

It really is. That was a devastating loss. To be in the midst of this kind of skid, to have the lead three separate times against the division leader, and then to blow it in the 11th with our nominal best reliever on the mound...that's a jarring way to lose. Regardless of whether or not the Mariners deserved to be ahead towards the end, they were, and Morrow fell apart. Not helping matters was that Hamilton probably should've been called out on that curveball that flew through the top of the zone, but Morrow still didn't pitch well, and we can't even complain about the umpires that much when we got what looked like a generous call at first base on Wlad's grounder preceding the Johjima home run. Once again this team just didn't take advantage of its opportunities to come away with the game, and the Rangers aren't exactly the sort of ballclub with whom you want to play victory chicken.

This was the kind of loss that makes you think it's only going to get worse before it gets better. The kind of loss that a lot of people tend to proclaim as a probable turning point. It's not just fans. Sportswriters do it too. They see a team lose like this and decide that the outcome probably destroyed the team's confidence, and that the players will need a lot of time to work through the trauma. It's an easy argument to buy into. Usually, when people have really bad things happen to them, they struggle to cope.

But then, on the other side of the coin, wasn't it just a little while ago that the Mariners won that "statement game" over Oakland to go to 15-10? Wasn't that game supposed to be a turning point? The Mariners are 1-8 since Lopez's walk-off blooper. A year ago they won an early statement game against the Angels and proceeded to lose 14 of their next 18 games. In 2007 the M's took a big game against the Yankees in September, then lost six of seven. 2006 had the infamous Rockies game, after which we lost 10 of 12. Wins in "statement games" haven't had any kind of carryover effect in the past, so there's little reason to believe that a tough loss will, either. You'll remember that the Putz/Vazquez game in 2007 was followed by six wins in eight games.

Basically, I'm not buying that "statement games" exist as positives or negatives. At least, not in a way that has any significant lasting effect. There are obviously big wins and crushing losses, but pending further study I don't think history will reveal many cases where a team followed either a huge win or a crippling defeat with more of the same. I feel like baseball really is just about the next day's pitcher and the next day's lineup.

So with that in mind, I don't think we ought to treat this as the day the Mariners died. They lost a game. It just happened to be an important game; an important game against a division rival in which we had the lead in the final inning. While I don't think the team is going to use this as a launchpad for a massive losing streak, then, it still dealt us a significant blow. These aren't the sorts of games the Mariners can afford to throw away. If they intend on staying in the race, they need to get going immediately, and today was a comically exaggerated step in the wrong direction.

There's still time. The Mariners didn't die today. But their organs are failing.

Star-divide

To make you feel better, here's Yuni looking bemused after Ronny Cedeno ran down a pop fly in left field.

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So...

The Mariners have Erdheim-Chester disease, and we don’t yet know if we’re Ian or Esther.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on May 14, 2009 2:05 AM PDT reply actions  

I was sort of afraid of this

One thing I hate seeing is losing games repeatedly the same way over and over again. In this case, each loss in the past week has centered around a lack of offense and watching mediocre pitchers dominate. So when a game like this shows up where the team does reasonably well, only to watch them lose in heartbreaking fashion, it’s just added to the misery of the slump rather than just being one game that didn’t go our way.

This was the first enjoyable Mariner game in over a week. It’s a shame that it ended the way it did but I was at least watching the same team I enjoyed in April. The previous week felt like a throwback to 2008.

by ThundaPC on May 14, 2009 2:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I must have given up on Tuesday

because this loss didn’t feel the least bit devestating

by Poochie on May 14, 2009 8:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Tempting? Shit, I'm already there.

The mid-July fire sale will be the crushing blow, especially with Beltre’s value plummeting.

by lemonverbena on May 14, 2009 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

If there is a fire sale, I'll actually welcome it.

A fire sale implies that the M’s will already be out of contention, at which point I would like to see them recoup as much young talent as possible for their assets.

by abender20 on May 14, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

At this point last year the M's were in 4th place but 8 games back.

This can still be turned around. I don’t expect us to win the division, but we should be playing .500 ball. Wak has been trying different things. He needs to try some more. Cedeno needs as many starts as Betancourt got, maybe Moore comes up and Rob goes down, maybe Gutz is batting 2nd, maybe Beltre decides to break out of his slump and play like it’s a contract year, maybe Morrow decides he wants to be a setup guy and not a closer…there are many things that may get us back to winning every other game. A trade for a good left handed middle infielder would go a long ways. This was going to be a rebuilding year, I just want to see what we have and what we will need in 2010.

Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".

by Sinking Away on May 14, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions  

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