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The 2008 Seattle Mariners were world-renowned for their shitty plate discipline. Their O-Swing% of 28.5% ranked second-last in the league, as did their 6.9% walk rate. It was a team full of hackers, and their poor collective idea of the strike zone played a significant role in crippling the team's chances of competing.

Jack Zduriencik recognized this weakness during the offseason and brought in a group of players better able to identify strikes and balls and make the pitcher work. Ken Griffey Jr., Russell Branyan, Endy Chavez, and Franklin Gutierrez all came in with encouraging track records, and Mike Sweeney had a history of reasonable discipline. Only Ronny Cedeno looked like a free swinger, and he was slotted for the bench.

After 33 games, the 2009 Seattle Mariners have an O-Swing% of 29.6% and a walk rate of 6.9%. This despite the league average O-Swing% falling a point and the league average BB% jumping a point.

We've gotten worse. Despite the additions and the coaching staff saying all the right things during the spring, our plate discipline has gotten worse.

It hasn't been the fault of the additions. While Branyan's swung at more pitches out of the zone than usual (not that it's hurt him), here's everything you need to know:

O-Swing% BB%
Additions 24.4 10.2
Holdovers 34.6 4.2

It's those damn relics from the Bavasi era holding us back, as many of them seem to be hacking more than ever. The violators?

Beltre: O-Swing% increase of 6.8%
Betancourt: +10.3%
Lopez: +5.0%
Ichiro: +3.3%

I always trust that Ichiro knows what he's doing, but between Yuni, Lopez, and Beltre, we have three of the stupidest hitters in the world, and we're starting them every day. Somebody help us. I can't take much more of this.

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At some point I'm going to end up like yuniform

fucking Loafie. At least he’s making contact out of the zone?

Also, he’s seeing a lot of first-pitch strikes so far. Too small of a sample size to indicate pitchers are now throwing him more strikes early in the count?

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2009 10:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh, dear.

How depressing…

~The Official LookoutLanding Poster Who Dreams Of Doing Naughty Naughty Things To Russell Branyan~

by section331 on May 13, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I guess they can't help it.

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by ThundaPC on May 13, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As far as reinforcements go,
  • Michael Saunders has been walking in 13.3% of his at bats this year.
  • Tui, outside of his 2007 outburst, doesn’t walk an awful lot.
  • Carp has walked at a clip of 14.4% for the last two years.
  • Cedeno has trended up over the last few years, but the sample sizes are small.
  • Clement walks a good amount as well, although his patience suffered on the big league club last year.

The problem here is that, of the guys most likely to get the call up, plate patience shows up at positions where the big league club already has some patient hitters. The exception is Clement, but who knows if he is going to get anywhere near the club as a catcher (or at all).

by abender20 on May 13, 2009 11:07 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know of the old header on this site, and I may burn for this, but...

…when do you think Jack will consider moving Adrian? I’m not giving up on the season (though that may be right down the road) or Adrian (I think he’ll start hitting and he still plays a slick 3B), but the M’s have to look down the road eventually, right? I know it depends on what we’d be getting back, but Adrian is still a very valuable player for which Jack could get a great haul.

Free Jeffie!
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on May 13, 2009 11:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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