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How much longer is GMZ going to let this crap go on?

We’re worse then the Giants right now.

"If your good at something never do it for free." - The Joker

by houseofprime on May 12, 2009 9:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Only one person can save us from mediocre RHP!

They’ll be too lost staring into his dreamy eyes.

You got slurved bitch.

by Slurvey on May 12, 2009 9:17 PM PDT reply actions  

We're never going to see him. So let's see what we traded him for.

Let’s see that LH bat NOW!

Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".

by Sinking Away on May 12, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, Matthew, I've been wondering for a while...

What’s with your obsession with Hamilton’s past drug problems?

by Inkara1 on May 12, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep, this question is a good one and will lead lots of interesting places no doubt

Seriously, this kind of question is better asked in a direct email to the mods.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 12, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matthew = Sore loser + wanna be comedian

When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"

by Pocket Ninja on May 12, 2009 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I could e-mail him about it

It didn’t seem to be some sort of personal issue to me, but I’ll admit I haven’t read every thread here so perhaps I missed something. It’s just that I’ve seen him bring it up multiple times, even when he, Adam J. Morris (lone star ball) and a few other guys had a roundtable chat previewing the AL West before the season.

It just seemed like an obsession to me so I figured I’d see if there was anything in particular about it.

by Inkara1 on May 12, 2009 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hamilton smokes crack huh huh....what kind of dump is this that he's a MOD here?

Fuck you, asshole.

When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"

by Pocket Ninja on May 12, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I can see you'll last a while around here

Seriously – keep it civil, please. If you just joined to troll, it’s been nice seeing you.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 12, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to go to another site and insult the mods over it

It’s a genuine question I have and I figured instead of calling someone an asshole, I’d be better off asking my question.

THEN I might judge, but not before.

by Inkara1 on May 12, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the contrary it tells us all we need to know in two lines

you gotta appreciate that kind of brevity.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 12, 2009 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So how's everyone doing? Nice night....not really trying to be a dick just don't see the humor in the drug jokes....it's kinda lame...and for the MOD of Lookout Landing to be the one making the jokes? Really lame.

I know AJM at Lonestar Ball wouldn’t go there….Just don’t understand why Matthew would? You lost….get over it.

When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"

by Pocket Ninja on May 12, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

For someone who's not trying to be a dick you're not doing very well at it

Honestly, if you haven’t spent any time here, you really shouldn’t come in and crap on the rug as a way of introducing yourself. If you have a problem with one of the mods, address them directly via the email links at the bottom of the page. If not, please keep your tone a bit more civil.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 12, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you care?

Why would you join a site to call someone an asshole for making a joke if it’s such a lame joke in the first place? Congratulations on LSB’s winning the SBN Sensitivity Trophy. I imagine that’s why Matthew is sour.

by Teej on May 12, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's like the World Cup, win it three times and you get to keep it

so the new trophy’s still up for grabs.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 12, 2009 9:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

HH's lack of a sense of humor goes back a lot farther than Adenhart

That’s why I was asking if they still have the sensitivity trophy.

by Inkara1 on May 12, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm, well I don't know, I don't read HH

But if anything, LL is the complete opposite, which is perfect for people like me, who aren’t easy to offend.

by Fin on May 12, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty hard to offend, too

Even if I don’t find a joke funny, it’s hard to piss me off over it… even Tourette’s jokes (I have that… and I fully expect to hear lots of coprolalia jokes even though I don’t have that). I just wonder about motivation for the same not-so-funny joke being said over and over again, which is what started this whole thing in the first place.

by Inkara1 on May 12, 2009 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's brought it up like 3 times

I’m the one who always makes fun of Hamilton and the nose candy

by Graham MacAree on May 12, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I mostly noticed it in the AL West chat roundtable he was in with AJM and some guys representing the A's and Angels

He brought it up there a few times, and that’s where I really took notice of it. My computer hates 900-post gameday threads so I’ve missed quite a lot of what’s been said here.

by Inkara1 on May 12, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

My take:

“Josh Hamilton’s story is so amazing!” stories are way more annoying than “Josh Hamilton does drugs!” jokes.

In general I think most of us would agree that overuse will kill pretty much any joke, but there’s also a tendency here at LL to make jokes in bad taste just for the fun/irony/sarcasm/whatever you want to call it. I wouldn’t expect you to fully understand the way we work — and kudos for not being a complete asshole in this thread — but there’s some context that is probably lost on non-regulars. We really are sticklers for stamping out lame or overused jokes.

by Teej on May 12, 2009 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I figure it's hard to blame Hamilton for that being the only way an AL West team gets attention from ESPN, though.

Was the drug addiction his own doing? You bet. He’ll be the first to admit to that. I think the idea is that if he can find a way to get himself out of what hole, hopefully the many others in the same situation can find a way to do the same.

by Inkara1 on May 12, 2009 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find it pretty inspirational.

I’m also really, really tired of hearing about it. It’s nothing against him — just the saturation and incessant nature of the story.

by Teej on May 12, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not find it inspirational at all.

But then I am so old that I have known way too many people who try to turn their massive life failures and subsequent repentance into some sort of heroic story.

I find people who never fuck up far more inspirational.

by Sec 108 on May 13, 2009 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am glad that he goes around trying to help out others who are in the same situation he was in.

That doesn’t mean he’s going to escape occasional jabs from us. Nobody does even players on our own team that we actually adore. I mean hell, we make gay porn jokes about our center fielder at an incredible rate.

by Matthew on May 12, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Would it be OK for me to make gay porn jokes about your CF too?

I’m trying to find a way to make a good “light up a fag” joke considering the British nationality of one of the mods here.

by Inkara1 on May 12, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

But has he ever done cocaine?

If not Matthew won’t pay him any attention

by Graham MacAree on May 12, 2009 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh, I wouldn't say we don't take offense here. We just take offense to different things.

I know people have been offended by what I’ve said here and vice versa. Though, I would say that in general, we’re not just randomly dicks to people, and we don’t take offense as personally. We’re just offended for a bit, then we forgive and forget.

At least, that’s how I’ve seen it.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2009 1:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ew.

Oh, THAT kind of cup.

♥

by royalcurve on May 12, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Your sig always throws me off.

I’m never sure how I’m supposed to feel. For instance, here I get:
1) Ew (alright, hahaha)
2) THAT kind… (hahaha, even better. Delightful)
3) <3 (Awwww, it’s not funny, it’s warm and fuzzy!)

And whatever you say, the heart leaves me feeling warm and fuzzy. Which is just downright confusing sometimes. Moral of the story: keep the heart, because fucking with people’s brains is awesome.

by Robert Lintott on May 12, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you that sensitive?

Really – why does this bother you so much? Do you boo A-Rod when he comes back to Arlington? If so, stop complaining about people harassing Hamilton.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 12, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He wrote "snorts" not "smokes"

By the way

"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.

by gregrabble on May 12, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Hamilton is a selfish prick who could have been in the World Series last year if he didn't try to throw his life away

everybody is fucking sick of hearing about him, and we wish he’d get Ardenhart’d and die

by JI on May 12, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions   6 recs

I love that an LSB'er flagged this

It’s like they’re extraordinarily sensitive to the fact that Josh Hamilton did cocaine

by Graham MacAree on May 12, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I once told Hamilton I would get him some Heroin if he let JJ Putz strike him out.

He then homered in that at bat and Texas won the game. At least I didn’t have to go get him drugs.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2009 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just love when people like this come here.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2009 1:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I eat with gusto, damn, you bet!

We’re sailing round the cape!
Keelhaul him said the bo’sun
there must be no escape!

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 12, 2009 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Men Men Men ...

It’s great to be on a ship with men
And sail across the sea-o
We don’t know where we’ll land or when
But it’s great to be with men

‘Cause men can sweat and men can stink
And no one seems to care-o
We’ll throw the dishes in the sink
And clog the sink with hair-o

Men, men, men, it’s a ship filled with men
So batten down the ladies room,
There’s no one here but men

by msb on May 12, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I looked back through the LL archive.

Prior to this I have made a single reference to Josh Hamilton and drugs.

I know I brought it up as a joke in the round table on BtB. That makes three cracks at it ever that I can recall. Hardly seems like an obsession to me.

by Matthew on May 12, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

And looking through the round table chat, here are my lone two references to Josh Hamilton and drugs.

3:39
Eric Seidman: Do you mean Josh Hamilton’s numbers or references to his amazing story.
3:39
Matthew Carruth: I heard he took drugs of some kind

…

4:02
Matthew Carruth: I have to meet up with Josh Hamilton to sell him some candy. For his nose.

by Matthew on May 12, 2009 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three cracks?

That’s better than Josh Hamilton could say.

by Robert Lintott on May 12, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has anybody seen what Bryan LaHair has done against righties in the minors?

That’s a fluke, right? There’s no way he’ll every actually be a worthwhile player is there?

by DAMellen on May 12, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

At this point if you were to call him up where would he play?

At 1st we have Branyan who is better.
At DH you have Griffey…
At LF meh… I dunno he’d be the equivalent of Raul Ibanez defense wise and I don’t really know if his bat is that good in a platoon situation.

You got slurved bitch.

by Slurvey on May 12, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wasn't saying that I'd bring him up right now.

I was mostly just pointing out something that I was extremely surprised to see. Wonder if he has any kind of a future as a pinch hitter or occasional platoon player? That’d honestly be a much better future than I thought he had.

by DAMellen on May 12, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong it's "what are, things that Josh Hamilton does"

"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.

by gregrabble on May 12, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

My bad

He’s a hero, a glorious hero

"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.

by gregrabble on May 12, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

COCAINE

"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.

by gregrabble on May 12, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Josh Hamilton used to do it

"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.

by gregrabble on May 12, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well fuck.

Should have known that one, I had a great time though

"Get up you crazy black man, I'm gonna make you drink my piss!" - Will Ferrell.

by gregrabble on May 12, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go...Mariners?

Oh, Belts, you were just heating up! GAH.

by Charles Gipson is a Mangod on May 12, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahahaha

So cruel. He ranges to his left finally and knoblauchs the throw. 1 of 2 isn’t bad…unless it’s your job to catch and make the throw

by Brian Floyd on May 12, 2009 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wak sounded pissed about the offense. Threatening to make changes.

I think Yuni is in trouble. And it wouldn’t suprise me if Balentien get more time.

Furthermore, Clement could use a hot week here. The team is getting fed up with the lack of offense, so Jeff needs to get his act together (good game tonight) and make it easy to ditch that ass kisser Rob Johnson

by Rudy4three on May 12, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Yuni go away. And Beltre is probably the easiest out alive in a close game. Talk about a choker.

Sadly, probably the two players with the lowest IQ in MLB right now.

What a waste of an unexpectedly solid start by Vargas.

by Sam Regens on May 12, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Jesus

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2009 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like seriously I just found out that Josh Hamilton was a crack addict

Isn’t it amazing how successful athletes can fritter away their god-given talent on drugs then come back, be worse than everyone thought they were going to be, and be hailed as a hero?

What an amazing story. Why haven’t I heard about this before?

by Graham MacAree on May 12, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Cocaine is an upper)

(Means he was strung out and didn’t sleep and therefor didn’t dream)

by Brian Floyd on May 12, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, that reminds me.

Fuck Bill Bavasi.

Adam Jones is ridiculous.

by R.J. Anderson on May 12, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing

Watching the BBTN highlights got me choked up. They were talking about him and Longo being the future and playing the game right

FUCK YOU BAVASI

by Brian Floyd on May 12, 2009 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obviously just lazy ESPN people

The Orioles have Markakis play the game in right.

by Robert Lintott on May 12, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Jeff Clement was valued by the front office roughly the same at the time.

The trade was not intelligent but I can understand why they went with Jones based on Catcher generally being a harder position to fill.

by Right Guard on May 12, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can't figure out how anyone manages to read it.

Enough with the cocaine already. It’s hard enough as is.

Waiting to spit out the "Doublemint Twins".

by Sinking Away on May 12, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I incorrect?

If so, would somebody mind pointing me in the correct direction of a LL/SABER primer?

by Right Guard on May 12, 2009 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is, "How not to do cocaine?"

(based on a lecture series by Texas Ranger Josh Hamilton)

by Graham MacAree on May 12, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

They used "their" when they should have used "they're"

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2009 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, he'll make mistakes like that every now and then

Then people post “omg you used their instead of they’re lolololol” in the livejournal feed instead of contacting him directly to let him know. That’s a pet peeve of his.

by Inkara1 on May 13, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is a space in there.

If you forget it, you tend to sound condescending

by Robert on May 13, 2009 12:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I must have those :o

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2009 2:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes but I would be lazy and just have it shoot everything that moved

So that wouldn’t be very useful unless somehow I flipped the programming completely and turned it on whenever the opposition hit ground balls to short.

by Graham MacAree on May 12, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course it would

knowing the only way to stay alive was by being still, Yuni would still swing away.

by jimmylauderdale on May 12, 2009 11:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So...

Good game guys. Better luck tomorrow.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 12, 2009 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

Maybe we should all drink a little less coffee.

by Right Guard on May 13, 2009 12:18 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I see that a chart thread is 500+ comments, so I figure there had to be some sort of discussion/trolling/awesome or horrible event.

And it’s LSB being whiny bitches. I’m sorry I missed this thread.

The Rise of a Superstar:Justin Upton-.428 wOBA, 21 years old.

by Goose on May 13, 2009 1:00 AM PDT reply actions  

Yep.

Damn my shitty work schedule. Cocaine IS funny and I’ll bet Hamilton would agree if he was being candid.

"I do not buy numbers defensively. At all," Amaro said. "I look at fielding percentage. But that other business? I don’t buy it a lick."

by Big Jared on May 13, 2009 1:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't understand how you act like a whiny bitch after you win.

But it happened.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on May 13, 2009 2:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was beautiful

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on May 13, 2009 6:51 AM PDT reply actions  

LL is an

“infested whorehouse.”

Those coke jokes sure hit the spot, haha.

by redwolf75 on May 13, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

I find it amusing that apparently we have no intelligent baseball discussion here

despite one of our mods being a THT writer and another one inventing a pitching metric that’s being used across SBN now

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

What???

I could have sworn that Jeff started this site.

by Right Guard on May 13, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who is Devin?

I hear a lot of names get referenced here but they don’t seem to post anymore. How long has LL been around for?

by Right Guard on May 13, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, Coach Owens was the original creator of the site.

His first post (one about the twists and turns of Jarrod Washburn’s social life) was so phenomenal that he quit and took a job with ESPN.

by .Taylor on May 13, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet Jeff wants a blog war on his hands.

You should be happy LSB commenter hate this place. It means we’re doing something right.

by JI on May 13, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would be like me saying

“Ooooh, you’re from San Diego? Why don’t you go enjoy your beaches! amirite?!? lulz”

What kind of insult is that?

A stupid kind.

by Matthew on May 13, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

But there's no traffic or Hollywood in San Diego

my uncle always asks what it’s like to live so close to Hollywood and how I deal with the traffic when San Diego really has neither

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I realize that

but that’s still a different kind of stupid. That’s ignorant stupid (applying a stereotype that doesn’t fir the particular region) rather than retarded stupid (using good particularities about the region as an insult)

by Matthew on May 13, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK, who's messing with Wikipedia again?
Silva is just about the worst pitcher in major league history, so being a member of Team Venezuela in the 2009 World Baseball Classic along with Mariners Jose Lopez and Felix Hernandez was a terrible decision by team Venezuela.

by seattlebruin on May 13, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I came over here to apologize

for linking this thread at LSB last night. It can be fun to revel in the misery of others, I guess, but mainly I was just pointing out what I find to be a tired joke (although I personally felt that putting the psycho-‘dilla soul eater on there more than made up for it…). I never intended for the trolls to come out like they did. Naive in hindsight, obviously. Anyway, I’m not going to apologize after all. Because in the years of lurking on here, this has turned out to be one of the more entertaining threads I’ve seen. In fact, I take full credit for it.

Also, I’ve never posted here, and probably won’t in the future (what with the divergent rooting interests and all), so I better take this opportunity to say great job to Jeff, Matthew, Graham, and the rest of the folks here, this community is awesome. I read it almost daily during the season.

by bhudson on May 13, 2009 3:21 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

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