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OTPOTD (Monday, April 27, 2009) ---- Because Kermit's OT Reached 750 Comments Edition

Let's do this.  Here are some prompts:

1.  Tell a riddle or joke.

2.  Name your top 5 musical artists of the moment.  (Mine are James Morrison, Soundgarden, Crosby Stills Nash and Young, Fleet Foxes, and John Coltrane.)

3.  Who is your favorite TV show character and why?  (Mine is Dr. House because he's ridiculously badass.)

4.  What's your take on the whole "swine flu" deal?

5.  Do you like the Aaron Curry pick?  (I'm just glad they didn't take Sanchez.)

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Side note: Rockies' Fowler has 5 SBs after 3rd plate appearance in the 4th inning

1. What happens when you put 5 emo kids in a square room?
2. Unusually wide array of music likes… no real fave artists now though
3. Ben from LOST… seems to be hated and relied on by everyone on that damn island, and he’s creepy
4. Not caring
5. Hesitant at first, but very happy with the pick. Still think we should keep Hill though, if the pockets are deep enough, but we traded Peterson at the right time

by CHEAP ROUNDS AT NORM'S on Apr 27, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions  

The rest

2. I like a lot of everything, top 5 at the moment I guess would be The Decemberists, Spearhead, Gnarls Barkley, Spoon, The Shins

3. Jobe from Arrested Development

4. Probably not going to be as big of a deal as it’s being made out to be, but still not fun if Mexico doesn’t start taking serious measures to stop it from spreading.

5. Love it.

by OlSalty on Apr 27, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I'm a massive AD nerd but it's not Gob either technically

It’s George Oscar Bluth jr., so it’s G.O.B., but I thought people wouldn’t know who I was talking about.

by OlSalty on Apr 27, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmmm

1. A horse walked into a bar. The bartender asked “Why the long face?”
2. Chuck Pyle, Robert Plant, Ian Tyson, John Denver, Eric Clapton right now
3. Hank Hill, because he represents everything I want to be in life. House is a close second, because like you said, he’s ridiculously badass.
4. If it ends up being everyone overreacting, I won’t be surprised. If it kills us all, I won’t be surprised.
5. Indifferent

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Apr 27, 2009 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Jim Morrison is not an artist. He is a member of an artist.

1. Women’s rights.
2. Nirvana, The Strokes, Jimmy Eat World, Early Queens of the Stone Age, Radiohead
3. Jim Halpert because.
4. It’s SARS III
5. Yes. I like a lot about the draft except for the lack of a Brian Russell replacement.

by Mariner John on Apr 27, 2009 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

James Blunt.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ew ew ew.

If you’re referring to the Bob James of the “jazz” band Fourplay, then double-ew.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Phew.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

No one is on the level of Kenny G.

When he recorded himself over Louis Armstrong he branded himself as the music industry’s biggest bitch.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

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1. Whaddya call a guy with no arms and no legs in a pool? Bob.
2. Dead Moon, KARP, the Melvins, the Sonics, the Wipers
3. Tobias Funke because he’s the perfect vessel for David Cross’ humor.
4. Like almost every major news story in the history of the world it’s something worth paying attention to/staying informed about/possibly being concerned about but the level of overreaction at the moment is absurd.
5. Sure.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 27, 2009 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Did anybody see Texas Tech's throwback uniforms from a few days back?

The uniforms are not what was most notable from the game but instead the recap definitely stole the show, since it was done entirely in a style of speech from the 30’s/40’s. Absolutely awesome to hear somebody say, after a Tech base hit, “And the good guys get a trolley on the tracks!”

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 27, 2009 8:44 PM PDT reply actions  

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While checking the church storeroom, the pastor discovered several cases of new Bibles that never had been opened and distributed.

So at his Sunday sermon, he asked for three volunteers from the congregation who would be willing to sell the Bibles door-to-door for $10 each to raise money for the church. Jack, Paul, and Louie all raised their hands to volunteer for the task.

The minister knew that Jack and Paul earned their living as salesmen and were likely capable of selling some Bibles. But he had serious doubts about Louie, a local farmer who always had kept to himself because he was embarrassed by his speech impediment. Poor Louie stuttered badly. But because he didn’t want to discourage Louie, the minister decided to let him try anyway.

He sent the three of them away with the backseats of their cars stacked with Bibles. He asked them to meet with him and report the results of their efforts the following Sunday.

Anxious to find out how successful they were, the minister immediately asked Jack, “Well, Jack, how did you make out selling our Bibles last week?” Proudly handing the reverend an envelope, Jack replied, “Using my sales prowess, I was able to sell 20 Bibles, and here’s the $200 I collected on behalf of the church.”

“Fine job, Jack!” the minister said, vigorously shaking his hand. “You are indeed a fine salesman and the church is indebted to you.”

Turning to Paul, he said, “And Paul, how many Bibles did you sell for the church last week?”

Paul, smiling and sticking out his chest, confidently replied, “I am a professional salesman. I sold 28 Bibles on behalf of the church, and here’s the $280 I collected.”

The minister responded, “That’s absolutely splendid, Paul. You are truly a professional salesman and the church is also indebted to you.”

Apprehensively, the minister turned to Louie and said, “And Louie, did you manage to sell any Bibles last week?” Louie silently offered the minister a large envelope. The minister opened it and counted the contents. “Louie, there’s $3,200 in here! Are you suggesting that you sold 320 Bibles for the church, door-to-door, in just one week?” Louie just nodded.

“That’s impossible!” both Jack and Paul said in unison. “We are professional salesmen, yet you claim to have sold 10 times as many Bibles as we could.”

“Yes, this does seem unlikely,” the minister agreed. “I think you’d better explain how you managed to accomplish this, Louie.”

Louie shrugged. “I-I-I re-re-re-really do-do-do-don’t kn-kn-kn-know f-f-f-for sh-sh-sh-sure,” he stammered. “A-a-a-all I-I-I s-s-s-said wa-wa-wa-was ‘W-w-w-w-would y-y-y-you l-l-l-like t-t-t-to b-b-b-buy th-th-th-this b-b-b-Bible f-f-f-for t-t-t-ten b-b-b-bucks o-o-o-or wo-wo-wo-would yo-yo-yo-you j-j-j-just l-l-l-like m-m-m-me t-t-t-to st-st-st-stand h-h-h-here and r-r-r-read it t-t-t-to y-y-y-you?’”

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by kevin_ess on Apr 27, 2009 8:48 PM PDT reply actions   5 recs

Hahaha

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 27, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

hmm

1. I’m horrible at remembering jokes.
2. K’naan, The Hold Steady, Local H, Turbonegro, Old 97’s (based on what I’ve been listening to a lot in the past month. Ask me in three days and this will be a completely different list)
3. Barney Stinson because he’s funny as crap and yet sadly pathetic at the same time.
4. It’s a flu. Like all other flus, it will pass. People will die, and this is sad. But like ac says, the level of hype around it is stupid and unrealistic. I’m waiting for the killer bees, myself.
5. I don’t know anything about football except GOOD GOD ESPN DO YOU REALLY NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAFT FOR TWO WEEKS BEFORE AND A WEEK AFTER IT HAPPENS IN EVERY SEGMENT OF SPORTSCENTER? REALLY? MOCK DRAFTS? C’MON. sorry. had to get that off my chest.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 27, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Local H:

I have been hearing about them lately. What do they sound like?

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 27, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

They sound like awesome

They’re basically a straight-ahead rock band, two guitars bass and drums, but they’re a lot of fun. Their most recent album is called 12 Angry Months and it’s 12 songs, each a month in the life of a failed relationship. The first song, “January: The One With Kid” is probably one of the best angry breakup songs I’ve heard in a long time. It starts out mellow, and gets angrier as it goes. The lyrics are absolutely spot-on, too. Sample lyric:

Give me my Zeppelin CD’s
You know you took them
I know you did
Where’s my Pretenders record
you know the one, the one with “Kid”

Where’s all my AC/DC’s
My Interpol, my Libertines
Give me my Kyuss records
you never liked them until you met me

It’s really good stuff.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 27, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

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1. Carlos Silva
2. Parenthetical Girls, Mt. St. Helens Vietnam Band, Quasi, The Thermals, Dr. Dog
3. George Costanza. Greatest TV character of all time. Currents include Frank on It’s Always Sunny (ridiculously funny), Larry David on Curb Your Enthusiasm (most awkward situations created), and Elliott Stabler on Law and Order SVU (plays the part so well, kicks rapists asses).
4. Kind of concern worthy but way overhyped.
5. LOVE LOVE LOVE IT. And Unger! And Bobby Engram 2.0 (plus speed!)!
On top of that, I really like some of the later picks (Reed) and undrafted free-agents (Bennett). And we signed Kenny Lucas today!!

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 27, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

So awesome.

One of my favorite bands. I was so pissed that their show here this month was 21+.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 28, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm liking that Mt. St. Helens Vietnam band album.

Some times I really like it, and other times it sounds OK (but in a way that makes me excited for their second release). Interesting….

by marc w on Apr 28, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes,

for me it ranges from awesome to “holy shit this band has the biggest potential of any young bands out right now” awesome. I love it.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 28, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Any particular reason??

Do you think that their hype is overblown? Because I thought that about Bright Eyes but now love him. Or is is because you think that their drummer is a gimmick? He’s not, he’s actually pretty good.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 29, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

They represent everything I hate about the way Seattle's music scene functions.

They were huge before anyone had ever heard them. Their first show sold out based on a two song demo. The Stranger and Weekly verbally fellate them on a weekly basis. I’m sure they’re fine at what it is they do, but their success pisses me off. There are gobs of great bands in this town that can’t get any sort of press whatsoever and keep playing on Monday nights to to the same 20-30 people and so it drives me nuts to see a band get so popular without ever having to go through that.

I’ll admit that it’s partly irrational and partly sour grapes, but it’s also indicative of the huge problems I have with the music scene in Seattle.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I completely, wholeheartedly agree with you.

I thought things might get a bit better when the dreadful Kathleen Wilson left, but it seems to have gotten even worse.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 29, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's what I hate about music scenes in general

I hate the anointing and pimping of a band for no good reason. It’s so pointless. So what if they drink in the right bars and have the right reporter friends?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The funny part:

We play a set in Seattle, and 100 people stand with their backs turned, arms crossed, chatting with their friends.

We go as far as Portland, and we’re thrust in from of a huge crowd, signing autographs (!) and selling out of our merch.

Moral is, don’t play where you live. Especially if you live in Seattle.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 29, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not intentionally. I think I would respect that more.

The funniest thing I’ve witness was some woman talking loudly over a song, and when it came to it’s abrupt end, all you could hear was her loudly mentioning that I sucked at singing.

I said into the mic, “Wanna Get Away?” Like those airline ads.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 29, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The people who used to go to shows no longer exist.

When the cost of living shot up no one could afford to go to 4 shows a week and still live in the city.

It did not used to be IF you were going to any shows it was how many. The crowds were into it too because they felt a part of it.

by Sec 108 on Apr 29, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not one of those people that constantly looks at the past as being better than now

but you just hit the late 80’s and early 90’s on the head for me. When people ask me what it was like to live in Seattle during its heyday, I have to resort to “you had to be here” because it’s so different than it is now.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know that those people still exist, though.

The craziest shows I’ve ever seen have been Dead Moon shows in Seattle. Shows at places like Healthy Times Fun Club and the Greenhouse can be a blast. When I saw Melt Banana at Neumo’s I was convinced I was going to die in the best way possible. But those people don’t come to smaller shows because they have no idea who the bands are and the people that should be telling them are too busy stroking the Fleet Foxes’ collective cocks.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see your perspective,

and agree with a lot of your points but that is the way a lot of music is growing to be seen these days. Major internet buzz from a couple of songs and huge expectations. Look at Arctic Monkeys and Clap Your Hands Say Yeah as two examples. It isn’t justified and there are a lot of great undiscovered bands.

However, this seems to me to be a perfect example of the old adage “don’t hate the player, hate the game”. MSHVB is really, really good in my opinion. So they got a lot of unwarranted publicity, their album backs it up. It’s one of my favorite releases this year. I think that you should listen and if you hate them after that fine, just don’t hate them for a reason like this.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 29, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was from some internet PSA thing, was it not?

Whatever though. Hate them if they get a ton of hype and can’t back it up, but I don’t think that it’s right to hate the band for something that isn’t really in their jurisdiction and when they back the hype up with an awesome album.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 29, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

As I said, I am aware that this isn't entirely rational

but they embody something that drives me fucking nuts about this town. And to be clear, this isn’t about my band at all; you don’t play instrumental noise punk at painfully high volumes if you ever want to gain any sort of fame. I am generally perfectly happy playing to the other bands, our friends and the 5-10 random people who show up for whatever reason. This is about a ton of tremendously great bands that play music that lots of people should love that never gain any sort of notoriety because of the way the scene in Seattle functions. And while you could say similar things about the music scene most places, Seattle is legendary for being this way.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel you.

I guess it can be frustrating, especially seeing the scene from the inside. Mind dropping a few band name that nobody knows about but should love, I’d be down for checking some out…..

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 29, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did just go back and re-read an article about the band

that says that they promoted themselves on YouTube and got attention and interest that way, not by being friends with anybody.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 29, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's probably because the people they were friends with wrote the article.

Seriously, the Stranger was talking about them every single day for a month before they even released a demo. No one had ever heard them and their music writers would not shut up about them.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Understand that I don't hold any of this againsty them as people.

I just hate the way Seattle functions and I hate the way the music industry in general is moving. They’d never recorded anything a year ago and now they’re getting written up in Spin? That bugs me.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand but as I've said elsewhere in this discussion

Seattle is known for being an impossible place to get noticed and a terrible city to play on tour. I hate having to apologize to touring bands we play with.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had no idea the Stranger loves this band, but c'mon

it can’t be as bad as the old days when the Stranger would print Spencer Moody’s drink orders or whatever. And I hated that band then because of it and I missed out.

And just to be clear, this is NOT a Seattle phenomenon. pdb mentioned it above, but holy fucking shit, the Black Kids? They were plucked from obscurity to go on worldwide tours and they’d never released anything but a demo. The arctic monkeys are, of course, the apotheosis of this, being annointed the next Beatles on the basis of a demo.

by marc w on Apr 29, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, I know.

But they’re a local representation of it.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Black Kids, Arctic Monkeys, Vampire Wekend, the list goes on.

Steve Van Zandt talked about this in a panel at SxSW, and about how he wishes more bands like that would cut their teeth in bars for a while despite all the hype, because it would make them better bands.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The whole saga of the Black Kids seems to have inspired a rethinking

of the idea that to be a good or, better, ‘important’ music critic you HAVE to identify and then relentlessly plug an unsigned, untested band that released their first song. Good.

(I like the Mt. St. Helens V. B.’s album sometimes anyway).

by marc w on Apr 29, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's the biggest problem I have with it.

When the stakes are low and you’re playing to absolutely no one you can experiment a bit. If you don’t feel like every song has to be perfect you can spend practice time working on new shit. Instant success does not do good things for creativity and a lot of younger bands see these stories and decide to put all of their energy into becoming the next Black Kids etc instead of growing artistically. And who can blame them? But it’s bad for music as art.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was almost verbatim his argument, actually

Not a direct transcript, but a good summation here.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

He knows his shit, and he’s got a platform so he uses what he knows. I love that.

I really liked his directive to his band to learn 25 cover songs and play a residency at a club – seems like that’s a great way to learn how to build a show, as well as how to play songs.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

That might work for some bands

but
A) Cover bands are awful
and
B) Very few bars (at least in Seattle) offer those sorts of arrangements any more.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he was recommending that they become a cover band though

It was more of an exercise so they could learn how to play in different styles, how to push themselves beyond their boundaries, stuff like that.

Cover bands are hideous.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I HATE YOU

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember where I was that night like it was yesterday

Driving through Maine, lost, trying to make up time getting to Vermont. GOD MY LIFE IS SO UNJUST

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's busy with Chickenfoot

I’ll settle for Nugent.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

A coworker today was all excited about

Chickenfoot. Good thing I already thought he was a tool.

by Sec 108 on Apr 29, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm excited about it too

because it means that neither Hagar, Satriani, nor RHCP will be putting out an album any time soon.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

He noted that the E Street Band keeps its ticket prices below $100

Not on the Magic tour, at least not after fees and rustproofing

by JI on Apr 29, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I paid $109 for that ticket

but the “face value” was indeed $94. Not cheap, but still.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The fact that the Catheters played to fifteen people at the Midnight Sun

shortly after their first full-length came out and then refused to let me pay them anything but enough money for a tank of gas really endeared me to them. The press got irritating but having that personal connection made it easier for me to ignore.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm.

I missed out on the 90’s and up until pretty recently, so you guys have a lot of background info about the scene that I don’t. That’s probably where a lot of this comes from. Being 16, this generation of instant internet buzz is kind of standard to me.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 29, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's really interesting

Just that it’s the default…

And with MCD, it wasn’t the internet, it was just the Stranger who relentlessly hyped not just their music, but who they were, where they hung out, etc. etc. It was basically Teen Beat for hipster wanna-bes.

Lisa, what did John A think of that? Hundreds of people packing his bar to glimpse Spencer?

by marc w on Apr 29, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly I don't think he cared, really.

90% of the people hanging out there at that time were regulars and / or friends, so for those guys it was always one big party.

by royalcurve on Apr 29, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I once attempted to try to get Coady Willis to bump into me at a bar

but that was more Melvins related than MCD. I got the idea from my girlfriend’s successful usage of this plan against David Cross but I was unable to make it work :(

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I once threw a drink on Kathleen Wilson

after the music editor of another magazine gave me twenty bucks to do it. (I would have done it for free)

by royalcurve on Apr 29, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Worth a drink on me whenever the opportunity arises.

I don’t even know why they called it a music column, it was just a printed blog about the Murder City Devils. Or whichever hot band guy she was blowing that week.

by Kermit. on Apr 29, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

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1. Pitchers Batting.
2. Well, three that I have been digging lately is Pearl Jam, Rush, and the Shins.
3. Stephen Colbert. And I don’t think I should, or need to explain why.
4. Seems like over-sensationalization.
5. Eh, only a casual football fan, but it seemed like the consensus here was that drafting Matt Sanchez would’ve been stupid, so kudos to the Seahawks.

by Fin on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM PDT reply actions  

What's black and smoking, and sits at the top of the stairs?

Christopher Reeve after a house fire.

Echo and the Bunnymen, Kings of Leon, Papercuts, Ryan Adams and the Cardinals, Louis Prima.

Brotherhood, only as Jason Isaacs is a complete badass. They could do a better job with the show.

Fuck the swine flu, it’ll be some other shit next week. Or it’s the apocalypse, in which case the world will end with the M’s on the cusp of winning the World Series, which I would have been able to watch with my dying breath except they started the season a week late. Figures.

I quit following pro football in any depth several years ago. The razzle dazzle and commercial breaks finally killed my interest.

by Kermit. on Apr 27, 2009 9:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I refuse to participate in the white snob's game of trying to name five artists no one else had heard of

and should you genuinely like a band that has had mainstream success well then then you’re a total fag.

by JI on Apr 27, 2009 9:24 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yup

1. Like pdb, I am kinda lousy at remembering good jokes. Sorry
2. Currently I’ve been listening to a lot of: Misery Signals, 3 Inches of Blood, Wolves in the Throne Room, and Glassjaw
3. Although I missed the last few seasons of it, my favorite TV character was always The Shield’s Vic Mackie
4. Swine Flu will be the thing I joke about for the next several months until it becomes real or goes away
5. I’m plenty ok with Mr. Curry being a Seahawk

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 27, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Have you ever heard of Glassjaw?

I seem to have a ton of trouble finding anybody that even knows they exist, which is a goddamn shame

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 27, 2009 9:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know what's kind of awesome is

my brother’s friend Rickey just had Three Inches in studio recording for their new album. If you haven’t seen them live I suggest doing it because it’s fucking brutal and awesome.

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 29, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll bite

1) Two muffins were sitting next to each other in the oven. One looks over to the other and says, “Man, it’s hot in here, eh?” The other muffin turns and looks at him and says “HOLY SHIT A TALKING MUFFIN!!” (works better in person)
2) I don’t really listen to that much music. Currently I’m digging a lot of Paramore (well as much as I can dig, with 2 albums to their name) and wondering if I should go to their show with No Doubt, or if I will be trampled to death by a herd of teenage girls. I really enjoyed Metallica’s Death Magnetic and have been spinning it fairly regularly. Alanis Morrissette has also been stuck in my head this week.
3) Toss up between Dale Gribble (King of the Hill) and Elim Garak from Star Trek DS9. Dale is hilarious, loves Mountain Dew, and has no regard for his own personal health, which I find amusing. Garak is just an amazingly intricate personality. If you enjoy Garak or DS9 in general, I heavily recommend A Stitch in Time, a novel written by Andrew Robinson who played Garak.
4) Meh
5) Not a Seahawks fan, a Broncos fan, their picks kind of dumfounded me with only a single player for the front 7, but after reading Mile High Report’s take I’m curious to see how it works out. The proof is in the pudding (the season), as they say.

by appleshampoo on Apr 27, 2009 9:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Garak is awesome

if you like the clandestine, witty, underhanded, badass type… and I do!

~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~

by Enrique on Apr 27, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

And that’s absolutely where I got it from.

~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~

by Enrique on Apr 27, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another vote for Garak here. One of the most underrated characters in Star Trek or tv history in general.

Garak and Gul Dukat are the reason why the Cardassians are far and away my favorite Trek race.

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 28, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Dukat is the consumate villian

You could use the cliche “You love to hate him, you hate to love him,” but honestly I actually like him sometimes. He just seems like he’s actually a good person sometimes, and then…WHAMMM. not so much.

I agree Cardassians rule. I think there was more thought put into them by the DS9 writers than any other race in all of trek.

by appleshampoo on Apr 28, 2009 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree with you there,

except for the last season. The real problem I had with his arc is that he became too evil. In the first six seasons, he was a bad guy, no doubt, but it seemed as though there were always reasons and motivations behind it. In the seventh season though, he basically went from being a really well developed character back to a one dimensional character again.

But those characters are great examples of why DS9 was (in my very humble opinion) the superior Trek. The format and the writing allowed them to develop characters and, for that matter, races, who were portrayed entirely by guest actors. It created a sense of continuity and familiarity that just couldn’t be achieved with the other “weird alien of the week” plot lines.

Anyway, kudos on your selection.

~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~

by Enrique on Apr 28, 2009 1:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Iggy Pop?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was a good episode.

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2009 12:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

God bless you for loving Deep Space Nine.

That show was amazing.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pffff.

Everyone knows Andrew Robinson is the Scorpio Killer.

by msb on Apr 28, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ha

It’s funny that is his most notable non-trek role, I have been meaning to watch that and still haven’t.

by appleshampoo on Apr 28, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Welllll

2. Beirut, Eric B and Rakim, Mos Def, Radiohead, Mogwai
3. Not favorite but I do like Tim from The Life and Times of Tim
4. I do not follow the news in any way shape or form so I will assume that this swine flu thing is a recent occurrence
5. Cutler!
Judge me!

by Dewey N on Apr 27, 2009 9:31 PM PDT reply actions  

God yes

Pussy little bitch who doesn’t understand the NFL. Good luck Bears fans when he’s demanding a trade next year because he doesn’t have anyone to whom to throw. God fuck that little bitch, I hope he pulls a Ryan Leaf or he just dies from his diabetes.

by appleshampoo on Apr 27, 2009 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has amazing talent, that's for sure

I’m just doubtful at this point he will ever realize his potential, given his attitude. As a Broncos fan, my natural tendency is to root for him to flame out so as to justify the trade and so that we didn’t get screwed (schadenfreude).

But yeah, he could easily turn into the Bears’ franchise QB over the next decade. If I had been another team, I would have been hoping to get him too.

by appleshampoo on Apr 27, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay

I’ve googled DYAR and still have come up empty. What does it mean?

And yeah, he was good statistically, but if you look at our red zone percentages and our scoring offense, well it becomes pretty clear that we couldn’t score when we needed to.

by appleshampoo on Apr 27, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mistakes were made on both sides, for sure.

But in my opinion Cutler made the majority of the mistakes, and his refusal to deal with the situation in a mature manner forced the trade. I mean, someone comes knocking talking about a trade, you listen. It doesn’t mean you take the trade, but you listen. I don’t believe for a second that McD would have traded Cutler straight up for Cassel. That’s just retarded, there is no comparison in their raw skills. But of course he listened to the trade, and then turned it down.

Cutler took that one little listen, and blew it way out of proportion “OH MY GOD they want to trade me, he doesn’t want me on this team, I’m a little winy bitch, baw baw baw I want to be traded.” Fuck you, he was just doing business, and in the end he still wanted you in Denver. But you’re too stupid, so have fun in Chicago. Fuck that guy. If I had a Cutler jersey, I would un stitch the letters and replace it with “BRISTER”. Thankfully I don’t. I have a Plummer jersey, that pimp is playing handball in Sandpoint, ID and getting it on with his hot former cheerleader wife (I have an irrational love for Jake Plummer, having grown up in Boise, ID).

by appleshampoo on Apr 27, 2009 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denver was pretty stupid for even considering the option of replacing Cutler with a player like Cassel.

Cutler may be a whiny little bitch, but he’s a talented whiny little bitch that plays a premium position and plays that position at a remarkably high level.

I suppose I should be thankful. Without Cutler the Broncos aren’t going anywhere in a hurry, making that #1 pick they traded to Seattle even more valuable.

by BrianL on Apr 27, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope we kick ass and that pick is worthless

No offense to my Seahawk fan brethren, of course. But if it ends up in the top half of the first round, ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu-

But yeah, I’m not happy about that trade. Bah.

I don’t think they seriously considered it. I think it was just a courtesy thing. But now we’re getting in to supposition about the intentions of team officials, and no one really knows. So whatever.

by appleshampoo on Apr 27, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denver really isn't looking good next season sans Cutler.

The dropoff from him to Kyle Orton is huge. That first-rounder could easily become a top-10 selection.

by BrianL on Apr 27, 2009 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping that

Kyle Orton + quality receivers (marshall, royal, scheffler, stokley) > Kyle Orton in Chicago

But I agree with you, it’s a big downgrade. We’ll see what happens. Still better than the Hawks next year :-)

by appleshampoo on Apr 28, 2009 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Broncos were the luckiest team in the league last year.

In terms of win value. The Chargers and Chiefs were the two most unlucky. That first round pick is looking pretty damn sexy right now.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 28, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmm everyone seems to disagree with me here.

The Broncos definitely had some lucky games last year, and I’ll admit I don’t pay any attention to the Hawks at all, so they are probably better than I give them credit for based on their record.

by appleshampoo on Apr 28, 2009 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of the only "story jokes" that I really like:

Two Canadians are sitting in a bar, and they’re getting bored, so they decide to play 20 questions. The first Canadian tries to think of a word and after a little pondering comes up with the word: moosecock.

The second Canadian tries his first question, “Is it something good to eat?”

The first guy thinks a moment then laughs and replies “Sure, I suppose you could eat it.”

The second Canadian says, "Is it a moosecock?

by Teej on Apr 27, 2009 9:32 PM PDT reply actions   5 recs

Oh man

I laughed really hard at that for really no good reason. Probably the 3 beers I’ve had. Mmm claymore scotch ale.

by appleshampoo on Apr 27, 2009 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and the rest of the questions:

2. MF DOOM, Black Milk, Cunninlynguists, Little Brother, Common Market.
3. Stringer Bell
4. Concerned because a lot of the U.S. cases of swine flu are popping up in San Diego County.*
5. Judging by the responses from people who know a shitload more about football than I, yes.

*Speaking of swine flu, before we went to the Angels game yesterday, my girlfriend was eating breakfast with her sweet-but-so-old-it’s-kind-of-inevitable-that-she’ll-say-borderline-racist-things grandmother. Gram says: “You’re going to an Angels game? Well, Jenny, you know I’ve seen those games on TV before, and most of the Angels’ fans are Mexican, and those are the ones who have the swine flu. Do you want a mask?”

by Teej on Apr 27, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Old people are so cool

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 27, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The new album is pretty good for a CD I didn't know was coming out until the day beforehand.

It has a dark sound, reminding me of the first Viktor Vaughn album. Not quite as fun as the DangerDoom album but that’s to be expected, I guess. He has a tendency to mail it in sometimes, but this new one is pretty sharp.

by Teej on Apr 27, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

STRINGER!!!

Fuck that faggot bitch Omar.
Madvillain is one of the top five albums of the decade.

by sammy on Apr 28, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ok

1. A certain Mr. Holmes and Dr. Watson, of whom you may have previously heard, decide to holiday in the English countryside after a taxing case. Through the moors they trek, as the sun dips below the horizon and the stars begin to wink into appearance in a crystal clear sky. Sensibly, they decide to set up camp. A fire is lit, a quick meal cook, and brandy (naturally) consumed, perhaps in excess. Eventually the embers die away and the famous duo drifts off to sleep.

Some hours later, Dr. Watson is awakened by a rude nudge to the ribs. A sharp whisper quickly follows: “Watson! Look up and tell me what you surmise.”

The sleep-stupefied Watson stares at the pinwheeling constellations for a few seconds, gathering his wits for a response. “Well, dear friend, I see stars. Many stars – nay, an infinity of stars. And should there be an infinite number of stars in the sky above, some of those stars must have planets such as our very Earth around them. And with an infinite amount of potential Earths, there must be some in the very conditions that we experience, and must be able to support life, and on some of those worlds intelligent life must thrive. I deduce, therefore, that even at this very moment, someone is looking back at us from an untold distance!”

A quick sigh.

“Watson, you are a stupendous idiot. Someone has stolen our tent.”

2. Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Brand New, Emily Haines & the Soft Skeleton/Metric, the Divorce, Muse.

3. I don’t really watch television, but I like Dr. Wilson from House.

4. Nothing, really. Mild worry but completely overridden by curiousity about what’s going to happen.

5. Taking apparently the best player available in the draft has to be a good thing.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 27, 2009 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Pretty much, ya.

I was vaguely interested in their first two albums, but The Devil and God blows them completely out of the water. It’s like a totally new band. I’m pretty excited for a new record from those guys.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 27, 2009 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Deja Entendu, not the first

For Devil and God I was hoping for Deja 2, and got… well, I got that.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 27, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes,

I did like Deja Entendu as well, the first was pretty standard emo from the time period. I was surprised how rapidly they matured between Deja Entendu and The Devil and God. Pretty impressive.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 27, 2009 9:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Denver draft pick is like a little egg that you get to carry around and nurture for a year

You dress it and wrap it in warm blankets till it’s time to sleep and you hold it so it feels loved but not in a way that you might harm it. You take it to the grocery store and the pool and the libarary and soon you can’t but dread the time where it will methrophize.

But when that time does come it will hatch into a fucking rhinoceros Rexicorn who will gore and slaughter the entire NFL on his way to the magical kingdom of never ending smileandblissbowland before retiring to his subterranean chamber where it will stampede all over its fair maidens field.

by Robert on Apr 27, 2009 9:42 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

Decatur's

1. Watson and Sherlock Holmes go camping in the woods. After a nice dinner, they clean up the campsite and go to sleep. Sometime while it’s still dark, Holmes wakes up Watson.
Holmes: Watson! Tell me, what do you see?
Watson: I see millions and millions of stars
Holmes: And what do you deduce from that?
Watson: Well, Astrologically, I see that Saturn is in Virgo. Horologically, I can see that it’s about half past two. Meteorologically, I suspect we will have another beautiful day tomorrow Theologically, I see that God is magnificent and all powerful, and that we are cosmically small and insignificant parts of his great Creation. But what do you deduce from this, Holmes?
Holmes: [pause] Watson, you idiot! Someone’s stolen our tent!

2. You will make fun of me, as it is a combination of mediocre hip-hop, rock that hasn’t been cool in at least five years, and U2.

3. Paul Giamatti as John Adams (plus OMG jimandpam and anyone from The Wire).

Also, Every Episode of House EVER.

4. Well. Let’s get looting.


5. I honestly cannot bring myself emotionally invest myself in professional sport except baseball – the Sounders a little bit, or whenever the greater glory of the city of Seattle is on the line, yes, but day in and day out no.

by Decatur on Apr 27, 2009 9:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Answers!

2. Billy Joel, Dave Brubeck, Yoko Kanno, Toto, and Debussy (does that count?)

3. He’s developed an enormous following so it seems kind of silly to say, but I rather enjoy the Tenth Doctor from Doctor Who. Growing up I watched a lot of Doctor Who reruns on PBS and such. I never thought anyone would top Tom Baker as my favorite Doctor, but there’s a certain maniacal glee to Tennant’s portrayal that I really enjoy.

4. Wake me when SARS finally shows up.

5. Initially no, but it does make a lot of sense for the Seahawks. I wanted Sanchez because Hasselbeck is getting old and is still as injury prone as ever, short of that I would have liked to have gotten Michael Crabtree or an LT. After reading up about Curry I like the selection more and more. He’s a good fit for Seattle that has the potential to play at an All-Pro level for a long time.

by BrianL on Apr 27, 2009 9:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahaha

Most excellent. I wish I could grow a playoff beard…..
Are you worried about the long layoff?

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 27, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, yes being in a non-hockey town makes it harder.

I just think that the team has been so hot that the time off could kill the momentum. Conversely, it also gives rest to our banged up guys (Sundin, Salo, etc.) and we’ll be fresh.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 27, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Before I do something retarded like buying a players jersey even though he might leave in a few months

Is Burrows awesomeness by chance ruined by the fact he is not good at hockey? Or is he solid enough so I can wear it and not have taunts thrown at me?

by Robert on Apr 27, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is the real deal.

He is pretty much the fan favorite in Vancouver right now and was a pretty damn fine 3rd line guy with Kesler before he joined the top line with the Sedins. He is great on the PK (so is a real good defensive guy) and has found his scoring touch, he and Kesler are the two best overall players on the team. Plus he has near-top speed especially in odd man breaks. His jersey is really safe (just re-signed through 2012 I believe), maybe hold on to see if the Sedins stay though because a bit of his scoring production is because of them. Still, definitely an awesome player.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 27, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

More defense and less offense, but definitely worship-worthy

Burrows doesn’t center a line like Spezza does and will get less assists but that isn’t his game. If this last year is an indicator they will put up pretty similar goal totals for the rest of their careers, both in the 30s. Borrows is also extremely clutch.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 27, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's do this!

1. A guy walks into a bar and orders a drink. When he’s finished, he orders two more. This continues with the man continuously ordering drinks. The bartender is concerned and asks the man “whoa, buddy, why are you drinking so much?” The man responds, “You would too, if you had what I do.” The bartender asks, “what do you have?!” to which the man replies “About 40 cents.”

2. Current music revolves around Disturbed, Rush, The Who, Linkin park, and The Coats (a local acapella group—you may have seen them selling out recently for various Washington state lottery commercials…)

3. Favorite TV character at the moment I think is Bill Adama from Battlestar Galactica. Edward Olmos in just a phenomenal actor, and he brings that character to life in a way few people have ever done for me.

4. I think I was totally out of the loop on the swine flu thing. Until I was paying attention on the various outlets today, I didn’t even know what was going on. Obviously I haven’t been looking at news, or, worse, watching The Daily Show/Colbert.

5. I’m pretty stoked about the Seahawks draft. I don’t claim to be an expert, but Aaron Curry seems to be the real deal, and overall, from what I’ve read/seen anyway, it seems to be a solid win for the good guys.

~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~

by Enrique on Apr 27, 2009 10:19 PM PDT reply actions  

-
The Coats (a local acapella group—you may have seen them selling out recently for various Washington state lottery commercials…)

I’m sorry but I’m afraid I am going to have to murder you.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 27, 2009 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

My God, that's The Coats?

Just when I thought I couldn’t find another reason to despise them….

by BrianL on Apr 27, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

I didn’t realize there was so much animosity directed their way. They also appeared on an episode of Frasier, for whatever that’s worth. Still, they do a really fun live show, and I always enjoy it. Admittedly, the commercials they’re on now are pretty low, but I suppose they need money or something.

Oh, and the baritone singer is the son of the former drivers ed teacher at my high school, so that’s a fun connection too!

~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~

by Enrique on Apr 27, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't be sorry.

I think there’s something wrong with me. Might be that airborne cancer.

Regardless, they’re delightfully campy. Much like the mini sirloin burger ad.

by Matthew on Apr 27, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interestingly enough

I actually really hate the Coats ad, while I do enjoy the mini sirloin burger ad. If only more commercials could have the (not so) subtle disturbing humor of the new Quiznos line.

~Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges~

by Enrique on Apr 27, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

H/T Shrug:

What do the San Jose Sharks and the Titanic have in common?

They both look great until they hit the ice in April.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 27, 2009 10:39 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

No it's fucking not

You are celebrating the fucking Ducks winning a playoff series.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 27, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes I couldn't think of what I'd do to Pronger

I think it’d probably involve my old friend the cheesegrater slide

by Graham MacAree on Apr 27, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some reason this ommited the comment itself

“I think I’d have to resort to something including my old friend the cheesegrater slide”

by Graham MacAree on Apr 27, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess I'll participate for once.

1. What do you call a waffle on the beach? A San Diego. (shut it)
2. The Plasmatics and CKY are all I’ve been listening to lately. The Plasmatics because I just (unfortunately) started listening to them and CKY because they’re 2 new songs have me acting like a schoolgirl in anticipation for the new album.
3. I’m going to have to agree with Ben from Lost. Great character, great actor.
4. I know that I don’t want it.
5. Casual football fan, people seem okay with the choice.

by krb on Apr 28, 2009 1:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Ben is amazing.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way, I think it's amazing (if you believe the story)

that he was only initially signed up for a few episodes, but that they ended up writing the Ben character into the storyline after the fan response to Henry Gale. And how much the show has changed. Parts of the third and fourth season really became The Ben Show.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Apr 28, 2009 7:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Answers

1a. What do you call a dog with brass balls and no back legs? Sparky.
1b. A dog with a limp walks into a bar and says, “I’m looking for the man who shot my Pa(w).”

2. Neko Case, Jonathan Coulton, Bon Iver, Dr. Dog, Faunts, Malajube, She & Him (that’s seven, but oh well)

3. Tim Bisley from Spaced

4. Yawn.

5. I’m ridiculously pumped for Aaron Curry and our draft as a whole. Especially us trading a pittance for Denver’s first round pick next year. I love Ruskell’s maneuvering.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 7:40 AM PDT reply actions  

The one song I've heard by the Faunts I like.

I’m not sure what the actual title of the song is, but it’s used in the end-credit sequence from Mass Effect.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bahahahaha

“So he chucked out all his research, chucked the kid out onto the street, and, but get this, here’s the thing, when the kid reached puberty, the dormant oxypheromalkahyde in his blood-stream interrupted his DNA coding and he mutated into The Bear. So now, Doktor Mandrake has dedicated his entire life to capturing The Bear to rediscover the effects of oxypheromalkahyde.”

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like you care:

1. How can you tell a guy that likes Moosehead?

                     He’s got antler marks on his chest.

2. Re-listening to Kool Keith/DocOck/et al for a while now. Good stuff.

3. Rod Serling made every TZ 3 times better than it really was and should be credited for that.

4. I think US Americans will be realtively unaffected, but it will burn through less-developed nations something fierce.

5. Just glad we didn’t take Andre Smith. Or Darrius H-B.

.

by waldo rojas on Apr 28, 2009 8:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Lessee.

1. Why do elephants paint their toenails red?
2. Sondheim. Elvis Costello. It’s too early.
3. this morning? um. Comic Book Guy. Best death ever.
4. It’s a Conspiracy.
5. But Mark Sanchez is so dreamy!

by msb on Apr 28, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Fine. Sucker me in.

1.) What do you get when you cross an aardvark and a mountain climber?
You can’t, because the mountain climber is a scalar.
2.) Pete Philly and Perquisite, Common Market, Murs, Cubanismo, Audioslave. It’s a weird combination lately
3.) G.O.B. – (stuttering) Should should should shoulda should shoulda shhhhhhh ::tapers off::
4.) Pigs just got that much more un-Kosher.
5.) Curry is a good human being. He’s a freak of nature. I’d still have preferred to grab the Jets by the sack and squeeze

by abender20 on Apr 28, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

*addenda

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Now you'll try to tell me that this is referred to as a pile of DumDa

Yeah, you win, the only thing I’ve taken close to a humanity over the last 4 years was a BME course on Neuro Endocrinology.

by abender20 on Apr 28, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

"James" Morrison? "JAMES" Morrison?

If you’re talking about the jejune lyricist/crooner who fronted The Doors, it’s Jim Morrison.

And if you are, then I pity you, for you’re comically, stereotypically, in ‘that’ phase of your musical development. Rest assured you will get older, explore more interesting and accomplished music, and look back on your love for this embarrassing drunk and his juvenile look-at-me-I’m-a-poet doggerel and feel embarrassed.

Besides, everyone knows the real appeal of The Doors, if any, comes from the musicians. Robby Krieger was a stone-cold professional, and you gotta tip your cap.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Damn, my rant was wasted.

Never heard of this dude, though.

That’s my real musical achilles heel, really. I’m woefully out of touch with modern music…despite being the right age for it.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's pretty good.

An interesting voice. Kind of rusty-like. He’s a mediocre songwriter but has an amazing voice.

by .Taylor on Apr 28, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

No, more like the John Mayer type.

You know, the ones who wrote three hundred songs last night using the exact same four chords they used in the three hundred songs they wrote the night before.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know, I went through a phase of BEING this guy.

And yes, I did it despite my sense that I was selling out the things I cared about, because damn it was easy to get chicks.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

This was my schtick.

I’m a quality vocalist/pianist. I’m a crappy guitarist.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Incidentally, this is exactly how I reeled in my current girlfriend

And thank god for it because we’ve been together for 3 years and will probably end up married.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

You really just wait to take it out on me, don't you?

And worry not, that was the absolute brick wall end of personal revelations for this site.

I save the rest for my emo blog.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

It occurs to me that maybe an alternate explanation is that I've been slipping lately.

Because damn it hurts my pride to get tagged with LLLJ…oof.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I should be above it, is all I'm saying

I hold myself to a higher standard of comportment. And I blew it!

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can't fault a guy for professing his love for somebody

Good on you, I say. But, it was against the rules, so what’re you gonna do?

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's one method.

You can also go down the path of playing Billy Joel and Elton John love songs.

“And So It Goes” is particularly effective.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Early Elton John has almost become a well-kept secret to my generation.

We’ve associated him with MOR schlock and Princess Di for so long that a lot of people don’t even realize how godly those early albums are…Madman Across The Water, Honky Chateau and ESPECIALLY Tumbleweed Connection are all ace.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ehhhh...

Caribou kinda sucks, and Captain Fantastic is only okay. Other than that, I agree with you.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Captain Fantastic is pretty damn fantastic.

But I agree that Caribou is shite except for the two famous singles.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hence the reason I took up guitar.

And man, I even used to make that very joke to people…you better not be my hipster douchebag doppleganger.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I made a mistake and took up the bass.

You can’t impress people with the bass :(

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me and electricity don't get along.

I prefer acoustic everything…I hate electric keyboards, too.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, depends on what I'm going for.

I prefer acoustic piano on certain things, but a lot of the time I like to run out with some sort of a Rhodes electric piano patch.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck yeah.

“It’s Expected I’m Gone” = primer on how a bass line can write a song all on its ownsome.

I pity those who don’t own Double Nickels.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or "The Glory Of Man"

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Flea did pretty well for himself

John Entwistle got an full page obit in the world section of the newspaper when he died, and he was the least popular member of The Who.

by JI on Apr 28, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he was also the greatest rock bass player of all time.

So it was fully deserved. Nobody — NOBODY — was better than Entwistle. And I’m a lover of great rock bassists.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I know nothing about Metallica save the occasional Black Album and ...And Justice song I heard on the radio

And wanted to get into them, what would you recommend? Keep in mind I’m a lover of prog rock so I’m not terrified of 8 minute long instrumentals or weird shit.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anaesthesia (Pulling Teeth)

is pretty awesome.

Weirdly I like both phases of Metallica. I like the old stuff as a Metal fan, and the new stuff as an alternative fan (other than St. Anger). Other than St. Anger probably the Black Album is my least favorite.

by appleshampoo on Apr 28, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

But not as a bassist

Rather as a songwriter. He’s a pretty decent bassist — in particular he WRITES great basslines — but it ain’t really about chops.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

It’s amazing how Sting really cliff-dived after The Police, though. I like a couple of cuts from Dream Of The Blue Turtles and “All This Time” (what a beautiful, wrenching song) and that’s absolutely it.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's kind of hard to use the bass as a standalone performing instrument.

The keys and the guitar are fine on their own, but the bass…not so much.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's rare, but it can happen.

There are number of interesting bass/drum duos at there from Lightning Bolt (and Brian Gibson makes that weird, weird bass a performing instrument) to Double Dagger to godheadSilo.

by marc w on Apr 28, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big Business pre-Toshi as well.

You could make the case that Brian Gibson’s instrument isn’t really definable as a bass.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 28, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

And apparently Brian Gibson does a bunch of art for Guitar Hero and Rock Band.

If they ever put a Lightning Bolt song in that game I might actually want to play it.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 28, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still prefer Armchair Apocrypha as his best.

Because he actually attempts to write rock songs whilst incorporating all his typical weirdness and succeeds. Saw him at the Chicago Opera House a couple weeks ago and it was magnificent.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Three points:

1.) I listen to more modern music than I really let on. But yes, I’m deeply devoted to ‘60s/’70s/’80/early ’90s music as opposed to the current wave, which I find to be largely recycled slop. And when I say deeply devoted, I mean I have an encyclopedic knowledge and obsession with this stuff.

2.) It is douchey to be so aggressively judgmental about other people’s tastes. I don’t actually feel that way, either, it’s just an unfortunate tic — a way I was accustomed to discussing music when I was younger.

3.) The Doors actually were a pretty interesting band on a musical level, which sadly gets lost in the continuing waves of adolescent fawning over Jim Morrison’s “drunken adonis lizard king” schtick. As I said earlier, Robby Krieger is a solid, solid guitarist and decent songwriter. Ray Manzarek pioneered an interesting approach to keyboard-heavy arrangements. Densmore knew his business too. But damn was Jimbo ever an annoying prat.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm more a fan of Crystal Shit

They’re my favorite Doors cover band. Really impressive

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

The first half of Morrison Hotel is the best music they ever did.

And “L.A. Woman” is their finest song. But they never put out a consistently great album (with the exception perhaps of Strange Days), and dear god do I get tired of stuff like “The End” and “The Soft Parade.”

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

The End destroys me

If I’m on a long drive and that song comes up on the radio, I just turn it off. The sound is too painful to listen to

But Roadhouse Blues is their best ever, no doubt about it. LA Woman is a fairly good song as well.

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by Corco on Apr 28, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

They play at the Sand Bar, right?

That’s the place where they let kids drink.

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by pdb on Apr 28, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just hope those guys have a good sense of humor

And don’t take us to court

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

What court?

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by pdb on Apr 28, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh like the People's Court!

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Somebody, finally

Uh, how you gonna get down to the shore?

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is what my house is like every weekend.

Link. (NSFW unless you have headphones)

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 28, 2009 9:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow

This is a cover of Stand by Me recorded by unknown artists all around the world using a virtual studio concept. It’s amazing because it’s so seamless.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Alrighty then

1. In a school just outside of Pittsburgh, a first grade teacher explained to her class that she is a Steelers fan. She asked her students to raise their hands if they were Steelers fans too.

Not really knowing what a Steelers fan was, but wanting to be liked by their teacher, their hands all went up into the air. However, there was one exception. A little boy named Timmy had not gone along with the crowd.

The teacher asked him why he had decided to be different … “Because I am not a Steelers fan” says Timmy.

The teacher then asked, “What are you?”

Timmy said “I’m a Seahawks fan.”

The teacher was a little perturbed now, her face slightly red, she asked Timmy why he was a Seahawks fan.

“Well, my mom and dad are Seahawks fans so I’m a Seahawks fan too.”

The teacher was now angry. “That’s no reason” she says loudly. “What if your mom was a moron and your dad was an idiot?”

Timmy smiled and said, “Then I’d be a Steelers fan.”

2. I suck at top 5’s so I’ll bow out. Music is awesome and you should listen to it.

3. Red from 70’s Show is one of my all time favorites. Nails the grumpy Midwestern Father perfectly.

4. Will it affect bacon prices? If yes then I am pissed.

5. I do not know football well enough to say much, but he looked good in the two Wake Forest games I watched last year.

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by Sec 108 on Apr 28, 2009 10:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Re: number 2

I think it was more of a “what are 5 that you’re currently listening to more than usual” or something to that effect. Hell, I only answered with 4 of them, and 1 is just about my favorite band ever

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

And hell of a joke, by the way.

Love it

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I knew it

WOO

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm responsible for 95% of all Genesis comments in LL history

The other 5% are people asking me if I’m serious.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

You done muddied the waters, boy.

You are now responsible for 22% of all LL history comments in LL history.

by abender20 on Apr 28, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, 101/15 with NO CAP!

Holy jesus

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

7.530

How did I know that?

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by Corco on Apr 28, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

1. What does an elephant use for a tampon?

(sheep)

2. Right now: Irma Thomas, Neil Young (On the Beach), Tim Buckley, Townes Van Zandt, Lee Hazelwood (Cowboy in Sweden)

3. The Log

4. The U.S. alone averages around 36,000 deaths due to influenza every year.

5. Pretty ok with the Curry pick. Very happy with the draft overall.

by sammy on Apr 28, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions  

Barca-Chelsea

Ms double-header
2 NHL Game 7s with a huge rooting interest.

Nothing is ruining my day.

by Matthew on Apr 28, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to miss barca-chelsea

and as if that weren’t bad enough, I have to miss it because I’ll be in Vancouver. And not the good one.

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by pdb on Apr 28, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I were to suddenly decide to get into hockey

what team should I follow? I don’t want to make the same mistake Robert did.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Noted.

Is there an NHL equivalent of MLB.TV?

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gamecenter Live.

Not as good a quality as NexDef MLBTV, but they run you up 1200k and it looks better than SD.

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure, to tell you the truth,

I got the end of season package coupled with this year’s MLBTV for 140$.

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

But I don't think there's a Premium like MLBTV.

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Caps.

No question.

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Blackhawks

They just won their one playoff series for this decade, so the next few years of ineptitude should fit like a well worn sweater.

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by Sec 108 on Apr 28, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rays are for gays

(unless you liked them before they were cool)

by JI on Apr 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh, I've always had a bit of a soft spot for them.

I liked to take the worst team I could find in Microsoft Baseball 2001 and go to the World Series with them. That meant using either the Devil Rays or the Montreal Expos.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they squeak by CHI, they'll still get killed by ANA/DET.

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hiller's been good, and I don't see that Canucks

being able to stand up to ANA physically. They’ll run them over.

It’s like if CAR beats us tonight, I don’t see them having a problem with PIT for the speed they have.

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

For as much as I hate both of ANA/DET,

that series is going to be epic.

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was always an Avalanche guy, myself

Forsberg, Sakic, Roy, Bourke. Hell of a squad. They are my Mariners, though. Got good right after I started paying attention, and then have ranged from middling to lousy for the better part of the rest of my fandom.

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by tootthekazoo on Apr 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, the Sharks.

Yes, yes they have good uniforms and I wish I’d jumped on that ship

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Apr 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Realistically you should follow Matthew's advice and watch a lot before you pick a team

you’ll want to pick a team that plays a particular style that you like, I imagine.

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I read this back in 2004. :/

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by EnglishMariner on Apr 28, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the OT works much better with a simple question, anecdote or idea and then just let it organically go

this isn’t meant to be a shot at Taylor H at all, and he posted good questions for the OT, but when you have a whole bunch of questions, it just turns into a bunch of lists and people criticizing/fake +1-ing other’s lists.

by seattlebruin on Apr 28, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Answers:

1.) I have no jokes to use. Oh, okay…

So a Lutheran, a Presbyterian, a Baptist and their wives are all taking a lovely boat trip out on the ocean when all of a sudden a massive wave rises up out of the sea and capsizes their ship, drowning them all. When the six of them wake up, they’re standing in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, and he doesn’t look very pleased.

He first turns to the Lutheran and his wife, and says, “I cannot let you into heaven, my child, for in your life you loved money more than the Lord Your God. In fact, you loved money so much you married a woman named Penny.” Suddenly a down escalator wreathed in flame materializes and St. Peter gestures them towards it, saying “think on your sins.”

Peter then turns to the Presbyterian and his wife and says: “Sadly, you too cannot pass the Gates of Heaven, for you loved FOOD more than the Lord Thy God. In fact, you loved food SO much you married a woman named Candy.” He gestures towards the flaming escalator and says “down ya go!”

The Baptist, sweating bullets by now, turns to his wife and whispers “it’s not looking too good for us, Fanny.”

2.) Music of the moment:
- PRINCE (he’s a sick bastard, but I just can’t stop listening to the Dirty Mind album and “Raspberry Beret,” which my girlfriend loves dancing to, which just isn’t helping things)
- The Jam (I’m finally learning to appreciate them where once I thought they were merely a decent Brit-rock band. Paul Weller has a knack for ridiculously tight, compact pop-rock singles a la “Strange Town” and “Going Underground”)
- The Beach Boys (just because I’ve gotten back into my collection of 1966 Smile outtakes)
- Andrew Bird (saw him in concert recently, loved it)
- Genesis (they never stray far from my playlists, since they’re my favorite band of all time)

3.) No idea how to answer this one. Tobias Funke, maybe? Lester Freamon?

4.) Swine Flu is overblown. Only Mexicans and poors have anything to worry about.

5.) I don’t give a shit, as I don’t care about football and to whatever extent that I do, I’m a Redskins fan anyway.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 11:40 AM PDT reply actions  

For music, also toss in Scott Walker.

I can’t seem to shake Scott Walker these days.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

It contains my single favorite Walker song in "The Old Man's Back Again," but all things considered I prefer Scott 3

Because Jesus Christ is that album ever stacked with an incredible run of genius songs.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I could explain to people why "The Amorous Humphrey Plugg" is so good.

You either ‘get’ a song (and an artist) like that instantly, or you never will.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you like The Jam

do not go listen to Paul Weller’s solo stuff. You have been warned.

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by pdb on Apr 28, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sadly, I bought the Style Council boxed set before I knew this.

And since I got it used, there were no returns. YE GODS.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is one good Style Council song

(My Ever Changing Moods) and the rest is dreck. And really, honestly, don’t get any of his recent solo stuff. Stick with The Jam.

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by pdb on Apr 28, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Raspberry Beret is a wonderful song.

I’m guessing you’re also talking about the pre-Collins Genesis?

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes and no.

It’s a common myth that Genesis suddenly started sucking when Collins took over on vocals — as a matter of fact, many fans would argue that their greatest album was the one where he first took over (A Trick Of The Tail). I think it’s a close run thing myself. Anyway, I love Genesis all the way through until after 1983, after the self-titled album. I think they actually did a fantastic job of transforming from a prog-rock band into an art-rock band: Duke, Abacab, and Genesis are all great LPs. But the later megastar pop shit (Invisible Touch etc.) makes me mostly throw up….although dammit, I guiltily enjoy “Throwing It All Away.”

At the end of the day, though, there are few greater albums in the history of rock music than Selling England By The Pound.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just put on Raspberry Beret after writing it, and goddammit I want to cut out of work now.

It’s the ultimate summertime cruising around with your girl windows-down life-is-great song.

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

writing *about it

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

REPLY FAIL

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by esoteric on Apr 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'll take a crack at a few.

Top 5 musical artists right now: The Mars Volta (favorite band of all time ever), Indricothere, Don Caballero, Jurassic 5 and ummmm…Mastadon’s first 3 albums.

As far as the swine flu goes, it really isn’t a big deal at all. It’s no different than any other recombinant virus, it’s not some crazy new virus, it’s pretty much bird flu, swine flu, and human flu all coming together to make one big influenze virus. Half of the reason so many people are dying in Mexico City is the residents there smoke a TON of fucking cigarettes, I’m talking like 4-6 packs a day. If you’ve been there, and I have not, I’m sure you can attest to the horrible air quality in that area. Because influenza largely affects the lungs, you can imagine what the flu could do to someone who smokes 4 packs of cigs a day. There’s also a misnomer that part of what indicates something as a “pandemic” is people of healthy age dying, and that’s absolutely incorrect. Back in like the 1920’s, I want to say 1918, there was a pandemic of Spanish Flu that killed a lot of 20-25 year olds, but this was during WWI, and this was a very special case of human’s having such an adverse immune response, that your immune system basically kills you, something similar to Toxic Shock syndrome. Add this to the fact that we are at the tail end of flu season here in the northern hemisphere, and it’s not a big deal, really. Healthy people are not going to die from this, and by the time it shows up next winter there will most likely be a vaccination. If the media weren’t so driven by dollars they wouldn’t have to make up these sensational, largely untrue stories so people will tune in.

Wow, that was a lot about the Swine flu. This coming up makes my Microbiology class a lot more interesting to go to. Swine flu isn’t a big deal and if you’re worried you should probably chill the fuck out.

I love the Curry pick. It makes me sad that LeRoy is probably out of Seattle, but Curry is a beast and should help this team out for a lot of years to come.

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 28, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Mars Volta and Don Cab are excellent.

Same with Jurassic 5 and Mastodon but I haven’t listen to very much of those guys.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 28, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mastadon is really really awesome.

If you’re into some heavier stuff you would probably like it. I would recommend checking out Remission, Lifesblood and Leviathan. After that their vocals got really really gay and even though the music still is ok, the vocals kill it. Brann Dailor who is their drummer is one of my favorite drummers out there. Mastadon tunes their guitar low (I can’t remember the actually tuning, I want to say it’s tuned to A or something), but theres a lot of cool chuggy breakdowns mixed with a ton of technical drumming and cool frantic guitar parts. I saw them live in Tacoma at Hell’s Kitchen and their bassist was caught in the bathroom smoking crack or something, which should tell you how good of a band they are.

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 28, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heartily enjoyed both Blood Mountain and Crack the Skye

Yeah, the vocals changed but I think that’s what’s kind of cool. They don’t stay in the same mode album after album. Crack the Skye has a very of Acid Rock mixed with metal feel which I enjoy quite a bit.

Plus I love their concepts. Leviathan was almost as if Moby Dick was made into a metal album and crack the Skye is pretty nuts too. Something about a quadriplegic meditating and leaving his body. He then gets to close to the sun and his tether is burned so his astral form floats through oblivion until it is called back to Earth by rasputin. Acid, never leave home without it.

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by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 29, 2009 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

You might want to take an epi class to go with that microbiology class.

If you’re going to say that it’s cigarette smoking (and 4-6 packs seems ridiculous and I’ve seen nothing to back that up) you have to figure out why the elderly aren’t also dying.

If you’re comparing to the 1918-19 Spanish flu, well, yes, it killed the young, but why is that so exceptional to what this flu is doing? I’ve seen articles comparing the two. From what I’ve seen, the theory is that there is a Mexican co-infection that is contributing to the deaths, which explains why it is not killing people outside Mexico. It also, like the Spanish flu, means that certain subsets of the population had already been exposed (likely to the co-infecting agent in this case) and therefore had natural immunity.

But what it comes down to right now is that we don’t know. Mexican investigations have been downright atrocious. They haven’t visited the families to conduct interviews; they don’t know what brought on the infection. To say it is because the young adult population is smoking too much is skipping quite a few steps.

Disclaimer*** I do not have my public health degree; I am just avidly interested in the subject. I also think that swine flu has been slightly overblown, but will hopefully be a good warm-up test to the coming global pandemic. It’s fascinating to read about.*

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Apr 28, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ok so take the 4-6 packs out of the equation, it was quoted from a prof. that I assumed had done her homework,

and the quality of the air down there is still horrific, so because people of healthy age are dying in Mexico city doesn’t mean they will die other places. I was pointing to this as a possible contributor related to the poor air quality down there, not saying that cigarette smoking = death from swine flu. That point and the comparison to the Spanish Flu was made to point out is that there is a false connect some people are making due to misinformation circulating in the popular media that killing young people = pandemic. That isn’t true. People can quickly look at the Spanish flu and think: Spanish flu killed young people, swine flu has killed young people, Spanish flu was a pandemic, swine flu is a pandemic. There were many other factors that lead to the Spanish flu being the pandemic it was. This is only one example of some of the ridiculous things people are afraid of. Some people actually think that this could potentially be a bio-engineered pathogen.

I agree that this is a good warm-up test, but it is being overblown. The World Health Organization has moved it’s pandemic alert to level 4, which indicates swine flu is a new strain of influenza and we really don’t know what’s going on, but to assume its a pandemic is wrong.

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 28, 2009 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

My doctor once said that the reason I rarely get sick is because

Smoking is a very strong antibiotic for airborne bacteria. So the theory of smoking making people more likely to get the influenza sounds unlikely to me.

by Sec 108 on Apr 29, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Mechanical stuff is really the only way of killing virus particles themselves

Antiviral drugs target cells in which viruses are reproducing rather than the viruses as that’s much easier (i.e. not freakishly impossible).

There are also other ways of killing viruses involving laser resonances, but I doubt you’ll see that from smoking.

by Graham MacAree on Apr 30, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Personally

I think the swine flu is a pretty big deal. We have had some pretty terrible flu outbreaks before that killed many thousands of people in the not too distant past, and this appears to be a virulent strain that is already transmitted person to person. Meaning it’s going to be very hard to stop it once it gets started.

Medical treatment in the U.S. is pretty good, so I’m not sure how many people will actually die from it, but I suspect a lot of people will get sick and things are going to be particularly bad in Mexico and elsewhere.

by OlSalty on Apr 29, 2009 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a joke

An incredibly gorgeous woman walks into a doctor’s office for a check-up. The doctor is instantly aroused and cannot take his eyes off of her breasts, and she doesn’t seem to mind. So the doctor takes out his stethoscope and listens to her heartbeat.

“Do you know what I’m doing here?” the doctor asks.

The woman giggles and replies “Checking my heartbeat?”

The doctor, even more turned on, flirts back and continues the examination. Then he has her remove her blouse and begins fondling her breasts the way a 16 year old might do to his prom date.

“And what am I doing now?”, the doctor asks in a sleezy voice.

“Checking for lumps and cancer?” she asks back.

Now the doctor is in! This situation only happens in porn he thinks to himself. So he goes for it. He removes her panties, and lays her on the examination table and starts to have sex with her.

In his best porno voice he asks "Now what am I doing?

“Getting herpies.” she replies. “That’s what I came in here for in the first place.”

by d0nkey on Apr 28, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions  

A joke, probably in worse taste than most.

A trucker driving a sealed load in Georgia is pulled over by a state trooper. The trooper informs him that his trailer number was reported to be involved in human trafficking, and he needed to take a look.

He takes the trooper to the back and unlocks his viewing plate. The trooper whips out his flashlight and takes a quick look, seeing small stacks of bowling balls and three naked black children.

He slams the plate shut, turns to the driver and says, “Get going to your drop, quick as you can. I’ll call ahead and make sure you don’t get stopped again.” The trucker asks why, he wasn’t told his load was time sensitive.

The trooper responds, “You’ve got a load of negro eggs, and three of em already hatched.”

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

And another, probably in not as bad taste.

This is more of a visual joke, so show it to all your black friends.
Take a napkin, unfold it and spread it out. Sprinkle black pepper liberally onto the napkin. What is that?
The Million Man March, as seen from space.
Take the napkin, and fold it in half, making a coke line of pepper. What is that?
The line at the Popeye’s after wards.

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by Faux on Apr 28, 2009 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Fleet Foxes Cover

Check out this incredible, beautiful band doing a fleet foxes cover. The are amazing!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHlZ3s-qSmI&feature=channel_page

by mack22 on Apr 28, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry to go kind of LLLJ on y'all

BUT I recall a previous OT thread where we made predictions about the new year (goals, aspirations, whatever).

And I just realized all of mine have come true. I placed 1st in the Reno Jazz Festival last weekend, I got to go on a vocal tour around Canada, and the Mariners are good (if not much, much better) again. Life is good.

by .Taylor on Apr 28, 2009 9:02 PM PDT reply actions  

If all of your aspirations have come true and it's only April

you either need to spend the rest of the year ragingly drunk saying IN YOUR FACE 2009 YOU CAN SUCK IT or get a few more aspirations.

Seriously, though, congrats.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 28, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Irrelevant

I spent a lot of my late teens ragingly drunk, and look at me now.

OK, bad example. Still.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong

I never set goals, I just skipped straight to the drunkenness. It’s so much easier that way.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good point.

And now I have a goal for the week. Excellent.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depending on how drunk he was

Maybe he actually was saying “SUCK IT 2009!”

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 29, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations.

Getting to perform at the Reno Jazz Festival is a huge honor, but actually placing is an impressive feat.

by BrianL on Apr 28, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's awesome

Good job

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Apr 28, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

There swine flu outbreak does have an upside.

It should greatly increase the chance that my avian flu paper gets published. Hurray for conveniently topical research!

by ningwers on Apr 28, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions  

In case you don't know the backstory,
Wendy’s claim to fame is her build. She’s a “bully whippet,” born with two mutated myostatin genes. Some breeders try for one mutated gene in the breed, because it makes whippets — often bred to race — run even faster than the 60 kilometres an hour they average.

But whippets with two mutated copies of the gene become “double-muscled,” like Wendy. The condition has been seen before in one human, as well as in mice, cattle and sheep.

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 28, 2009 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh good.

This just hit my inbox:

WHO RAISES PANDEMIC FLU ALERT LEVEL TO PHASE 5
The World Health Organization has raised its pandemic alert for swine flu
to the second highest level, meaning that it believes a global outbreak of
the disease is imminent.
http://seattlepi.com/

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by kevin_ess on Apr 29, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I just bought a shotgun

so if that damn virus comes anywhere near me I’ll blow its damn head off. Isn’t that what we’re supposed to do?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Duct tape is always the answer.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 29, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I that obvious?

What did I have for lunch?

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 29, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

electrician's tape

gotta shake it up every now and again.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like this answer more than I should.

Mostly because it took me a minute to get.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 29, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh wait, I should have put this on my Twitter.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 29, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll be honest

I’m a little scared.

by .Taylor on Apr 29, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't be

and don’t obsessively follow the coverage, either. If you start hearing things like “Flu Epidemic Reaches Seattle” go see your doctor, otherwise just go on about your business.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was more what I meant

don’t bother the doctor unless you start to feel bad. Don’t be one of those people that runs for a shot “just to be cautious” – there’s people that need it more than you.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Time to mimic Howard Hughes

I’m shutting in! Germs are everywhere!

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 29, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck you John O'Shea

but fuck you more Mikael Silvestre and Bacary Sagna. Defense is IMPORTANT you morons.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 1:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Ha ha ha!

Sorry. Great take by O’Shea, but yeah, it sort of look like Sagna flicked it to him – that cross never reaches O’Shea without that little redirect.

And seriously, that game should’ve been about 4-1 Man U. I don’t like Man U, and yes, I DO hate Arsenal, but realistically, it was only close because Almunia played so well.

by marc w on Apr 29, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Arsenal got torn apart

It should have been about 5-0. They’ll have to get a lot better by next week.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really didn't think they had a chance in this tie

they’re too raw, too young. That works OK in the league, but in Europe, not so much. If this team stays together and gets healthy, though, next year has the potential to be pretty amazing.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have an odd MLA related question for anyone who has written papers at some point in the last two years.

I’ve got two essays by two different authors I’m quoting from. Both essays appear in the same book of compiled essays.

Should my works cited page have entries for the two essays, or a single entry for the compilation book itself?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Single entry, referring to both essays

something like this:

Smith, John “Book of Random Essays”, essay #1 (author); essay 2 (author)

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It should be noted that I haven't written papers in about 20 years

but still, that’s a fairly standard convention.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know for sure that my example follows a specific standard, though

if you need to conform to something specific you should look it up; I always used the format I quoted above and never had a problem.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I might give my old high school AP English teacher a buzz.

I’ve read about a lot of different ways to format this particular entry.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right.

My old high school AP English teacher confirmed it was an entry for each author using the MLA selection from a compilation guideline.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It varies from professor to professor

but generally you want the author’s name as it was cited in the text as the title for the entry in the works cited to make it easier on the person who is grading your paper

by JI on Apr 29, 2009 11:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

In progress right now

A Boeing 777 on its way to Korea suffers a right engine flame-out

It’s dumping fuel into Puget Sound right now in an attempt to make an emergency landing at SeaTac.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 3:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I just hate taking off

One time a plane I was on was having trouble getting lift for some reason and went off the end of the runway. We actually felt this huge bump as the back wheels went off the pavement onto the gravel at the end, but the plane finally got into the air right at that moment. Then it was having trouble getting lift all the way up to cruising altitude so the plane was shuddering really bad for what felt like 30 minutes. Apparently it was some kind of electrical problem the pilot didn’t tell us about until we were safely cruising.

by OlSalty on Apr 29, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yikes.

Apparently that plane was running on a single engine for upwards of an hour.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

They're designed to do that you know

Modern airplanes are built with massive safety redundancies – a single engine 777 can probably fly from SEA-LAX without too much difficulty. Doesn’t mean they want to, but it’s not like losing a single engine will make the plane plummet like a Winfield-hit seagull.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I know that.

Would scare the living shit out of me, though.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was on a 747 that lost an engine in a similar manner once

it was…unsettling. Especially as I was sitting in the exit row above the wing that held the affected engine.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I sat on a plane at the terminal for an hour and a half while some guy worked on the left engine in a 737

Then they said that they were good to go, began to taxi, and the engine shit out again. Ended up waiting 14 hours for the next flight.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 29, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

The plane I was on took almost the entire runway to take off

and then there was a big BANG as we got about 100 ft in the air. We circled for about 40 min while they burned fuel (this was over St Louis, so dumping fuel wasn’t an option) and then landed, and 9 hours later took off again. They let us back into the terminal during this time, but they also let us eat/drink for free if we hung out on the plane, which was nice.

The best part of the whole flight was when we finally took off the second time, got to cruising altitude, and found out that there was no food and drink for the rest of the flight (7 more hours, to London) because we’d eaten it all on the ground and they didn’t bother to reprovision. And people wonder why TWA went out of business.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do they dump/burn fuel?

Is it a contingency in case something goes wrong and they don’t want thousands of pounds of fuel burning?

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 29, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That, and

a plane is loaded based partially on how much weight the landing gear can support, and that calculation assumes a nearly empty fuel tank – a fully loaded plane plus full fuel tanks would snap the landing gear, resulting in sliding, flames, and unpleasantness.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fascinating.

I never knew this before.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 29, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well luggage really isn't enough weight to destroy the landing gear if every bag is a few pounds over

that one happens to be moreso they can balance the plane correctly. They have a much greater volume of fuel onboard at takeoff which is also much more dense than luggage.

Plus, in case you haven’t noticed, airlines like gauging people whenever they can.

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the luggage thing is more so they can hold fuel costs down if possible

I dread the day that airlines realize they have grossly underestimated the average weight of the American passenger and start charging people by how much over the average they are.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Weight reduction

The plane can’t really land with that much extra weight in the wings, because the slightest tip while landing could drop the plane. Also, if they come in too hard then the wings could sag down and break

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 29, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Our situation just made me laugh

I have absolutely zero problem with flying, so I’m always in good spirits while on a plane. I had the window seat, right over the wing. After we had sat on the plane for about a half hour, I looked out the window (I had it closed because of the sun before) and saw a guy working on the engine. Standing on the ground by his ladder were three guys in suits, with clip boards. Shortly after this, they announced that we were being delayed due to a minor mechanical issue.

About an hour later, they finally said that everything was fixed and that we were good to fly out. The engine shut down before we had even hit the taxi line, and they pulled us back and let us off the plane. I was supposed to be flying home to SeaTac from Las Vegas, and they said we just had to wait for another plane which was due in about an hour. This was 4 in the afternoon at that point, but I didn’t get to fly out until like 5 am because fog settled in over Seattle and they couldn’t fly in (Late November). Way too much time to be in an airport

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 29, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

A 777 can fly from the middle of the Indian Ocean to Australia on one engine, absolutely no problem

you know they actually make them test this, too. The 777 is cleared for international flights because of this very test – in fact, the aircraft can fly from every single halfway point on every route it flies over water to an airport for an emergency landing

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy shit SB is talking about ETOPS

I have a total broner for you now.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Apr 29, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES that's what the test is called

God, how could I have forgotten this.

Also, let’s not forget I work on airplanes for a living here…

by seattlebruin on Apr 29, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Know thine enemy

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 29, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Both of my parents work for Boeing

and were at least somewhat involved with 777 design/build/test

by seattlebruin on Apr 30, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Portlanders-

My girlfriend and I are planning to spend the weekend in your lovely city sometime this summer. We’re planning to take the train down and go without a car. We’d rather not stay downtown; the Pearl is nice and I’ll definitely hit up the Rogue at least once, but most of our friends live in NE Portland or thereabouts and it’s be nice to be able to walk to their houses, etc.

I know nothing of Portland in terms of neighborhoods. I’ve pretty much only ever been downtown. I’d like to be close to a neighborhood center of some sort. I’m fine with staying in Portland’s equivalent to Wallingford or Ballard or something, but I definitely do not want to stay in Portland’s equivalent of Lake City or Northgate or something. We’re also willing to spend a bit more than Days Inn prices, but we don’t have Westin money either. I liked the Ace but since we’re going to be in town a few days it would be nice to have a bit more room.

Any ideas on what part of town I might look at, or even specific hotels? Access to major transit lines and cool stuff to do a must.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

The problem with Portland

is that most of the decent hotels are in or close to downtown. I’ll do some digging into NE hotels, but in all honesty most of the hotels that aren’t in downtown/NW/Pearl are Days Inn-type places; I’ll poke around a bit and see what I can come up with.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 29, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know I've railed on IB before but tests start next week.

Basically a big fuck you to Biology. And the Mexican Revolution. But at least after May 22nd I can have a somewhat carefree final 3 weeks of my senior year. Woo hoo.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2009 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes, I am now aware of this.

However, by the time I realized this I decided I didn’t want to quit because I’d already done so much at that point. I decided that I’d rather have the experience high school thing than do running start. I suppose I could’ve just taken IB classes and not gone for the full diploma but I didn’t really see the point in doing that and not trying to get the diploma. I can’t do regular classes, at least at my school, because they are just too slow and the kids in them don’t really care for the most part.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to my sister, IB was much better before federally mandated educational standards interfered.

It was still really hard, but it was less focused on testing and the like. By the time I started high school it pretty much non-stop exams.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 29, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The state laws for graduating now are stupid

Really? I need to do a culminating project? I won’t be prepared for graduation without reflecting on every year of high school and planning out all 4 years of it? Stupid requirements like that on top of the IB program don’t help.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's what my culiminating project taught me:

It’s better to fake it than do a real project.

The entire thing is just an exercise in paper pushing.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically.

Just like IB English, or any English class, is just a lesson in how to BS.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was in the last graduating class who didn't need to do that project

They almost made us do it anyway, then they were just like “screw it, we don’t want to have to grade all this stuff if we don’t have to”. Suckers.

My advice is to make a crossbow.

by OlSalty on Apr 29, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

My Senior project was a really shitty blog

I faked it the night before and still received a perfect score because they let Running Start students get away with murder

by Robert on Apr 29, 2009 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I directed a jazz band for my senior project.

I was completely honest with the documentation, so they failed me because I only had 39 hours of time at the podium available instead of the 40 hour estimate I had stated in the project proposal outline I’d written months earlier. Note that each rehearsal was one hour long and there were only 39 rehearsals because of a snow day.

So, they failed me for something that was out of my control.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly I think you're better served by taking running start classes at a local community college.

Knock out a ton of your two-year transfer degree before graduating from high school.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think the AA degree would be more useful.

But I think I’ve learned a lot from IB. I’m at least prepared for college at this point.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I had used running start to work on the classes that my current major is.

I spent two years taking a bunch of English and music theory classes. Then I switched up to IT Management the year after I graduated.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I'm starting at a university next year so it's too late now.

But yes, I’d probably advise for Running Start to future students. Although I liked the social aspect of high school more than I think I would’ve at CC.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was kind of my reasoning for not taking it full-time

Because you don’t get to see your high school friends as often and a lot of the people in community college tend to not be too interested in making friends there for whatever reason. Once you get to college you see how extremely overrated the high school social scene is, though.

by OlSalty on Apr 29, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are also laying off roughly 20% of their teachers and increasing class sizes, among other things

I don’t think a lot of people realize the extent to which this state’s budget is completely screwed, and how much of that budget goes to education.

School counselors are gone, special ed courses are gone, etc. etc.

by OlSalty on Apr 29, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

The worst part is that they are laying off teachers based on seniority.

So now people with teaching degrees who are now admins have to go back to teaching, even if they haven’t done it for 10 years. They are forcing out more well qualified teacher for ones who are likely just waiting out retirement. My history teacher, who is the most amazing teacher I’ve had, had to go through a bunch of crap to get her experience from teaching in New York certified.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ehh, I don't think the younger teachers are more qualified necessarily

I kind of agree with handling the layoffs based on seniority. It sucks that any teachers have to lose their jobs but since most of the education budget is going to teacher salaries there was pretty much no way they were going to be able to avoid it with the state practically facing bankruptcy.

Hopefully the 2011 budget is less constrictive and they won’t have to face a long period away from teaching.

by OlSalty on Apr 29, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don't know how else they would do it.

It just sucks the way money is allocated. But I think this is about as far as I can go on this subject.

by Mariner John on Apr 29, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gay

AP Euro was tonnes of fun

by Graham MacAree on Apr 29, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I never understood caring about grades

Learn because it’s interesting rather than for a damn letter

by Graham MacAree on Apr 29, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I learned this in college thankfully, but not in high school.

I was so worried about grades because I wanted a scholarship. That part work out, but I was way too stressed as a kid.

by Sec 108 on Apr 30, 2009 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I figured this out midway through my junior year of high school.

I hit a point where I was only getting about two or three hours of sleep a night because I was so worried about my grades. After living in a sleep-deprived haze for so long you eventually tell yourself that enough is enough. Give up the pursuit of perfection in everything and just settle for putting forth good effort.

I went from a 4.0 student to something like a 3.75 student, but I was so much happier and getting so much more out of my studies.

I know too many people from my graduation class that flogged themselves to maintain a 4.0 in all of their AP/Honors/IB classes and went off to a university only to come back after a year completely burned out.

by BrianL on Apr 30, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Mr. Marsh still teaching AP Euro at Garfield?

the only teacher I’ve ever had accuse me of academic fraud…

by seattlebruin on Apr 30, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

NO!!

Mr. Miller is the greatest teacher ever!

by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 30, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet.

Any idea if we can upgrade from Beta #7000 or do we have to do a scratch install?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Here's something

Link

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 29, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

1.) What do you call a leper in prison? A leper-con.
2.) King Crimson, Lou Reed, Chet Atkins, Deltron 3030 , Me
3.) Les Stroud or Alton Brown (tough one)
4.) DOOOM (or at least death and destruction)
5.) I’m a one sport kind of guy.

by chrisisasavage on Apr 29, 2009 7:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Apparently they just found 3 confirmed cases of Swine Flu in Seattle

So hey good it’s here, yay. Should be a news conference soon.

by OlSalty on Apr 29, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep.

FIRST PROBABLE CASES OF SWINE FLU IN STATE REPORTED
Public health officials reported six probable cases of swine flu at a
hastily called press conference Wednesday night, the first such cases to
be reported within the state.
http://seattlepi.com/local/405705_waswine30.html

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Apr 29, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everyone cover when you cough, and wash hands thoroughly.

It is recommended that you sing the alphabet song as you wash, to get the full 20+ seconds.

by msb on Apr 29, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you would prefer not to be overheard singing the alphabet song (or have to repeat A-M due to memory loss) ...

NPR suggests

“Hit the road, Jack, and don’t you come back no more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road, Jack, and don’t you come back no more and don’t you come back no more
Hit the road, Jack, and don’t you come back no more, no more, no more, no more
Hit the road, Jack, and don’t you come back no more and don’t you come back no more”

or

“I see a little silhouetto of a man,
Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango
Thunderbolt and lightning, very, very fright’ning me
(Galileo) Galileo (Galileo) Galileo, Galileo
figaro magnifico
I’m just a poor boy and nobody loves me
He’s just a poor boy from a poor family,
Spare him his life from this monstrosity…”

by msb on Apr 29, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the love of all that is sacred and right,

don’t click on this if you’re at work. Or if you’re averse to penii.

This may be the oddest festival I’ve ever come across. And I’ve been to 2 Lilith Fairs and an AVN Awards show.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, I just made penis plural with an "ii". Deal with it.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

HOLY FUCK I JUST NOTICED THE MASCOT

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 29, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to stick with Jemaine and Bret.

“You can say no to being a man ho, a male gigolo.”

by msb on Apr 29, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The pictures are so worth it.

And (I think) none of them (penii) are real!

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 29, 2009 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

And, appropriately just playing ....

“Too many men
Too many boys
Too many misters
Not enough sisters
Too much time on, too many hands
Not enough ladies, too many mans

Too many dicks on the dance floor …"

by msb on Apr 29, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait.

You’ve been to 2 Lilith Fairs? Uh…. ew?

by royalcurve on Apr 30, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have to second this...

I’m sure your armpits are hairy, but whaaa??

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Apr 30, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worked sound boards in my teenage years.

You don’t pass up the chance to work any big festival.

It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray

by Faux on Apr 30, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

New Ghostbusters: The Video Game footage

link

June can’t get here soon enough. I can’t wait to get this game as well as the 25th anniversary edition of Ghostbusters on Blu-Ray.

by BrianL on Apr 30, 2009 9:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Hot diggity damn! I found 64 bit drivers for my phone's USB cord!

So since Bitpim is now functional in Windows 7, that brings the number of programs I’ve found that don’t work yet down to five. Hopefully they work in the RC.

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 30, 2009 4:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck wrong thread.

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 30, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

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Friday Morning Music Thread
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More on the Struggles of Smoak
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Albert Pujols 2012: Three Retrospectives
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On Batting Orders
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More on Dustin Ackley and the strikezone

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