9-5, Chart

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 21, 2009 9:48 PM PDT in Seattle Mariners Game Recaps

Biggest Contribution: Jarrod Washburn, +17.8%
Biggest Suckfest: Ichiro, -9.9%
Most Important AB: Johnson triple, +19.2%
Most Important Pitch: Longoria double, -11.5%
Total Contribution by Pitcher(s): +32.1%
Total Contribution by Lineup: +11.0%
Total Contribution by Opposition: +6.9%
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Angels won, but no ground lost!

by OlSalty on Apr 21, 2009 10:00 PM PDT reply actions

coolstandings says

We’ve got more than a 25% chance to win the division. We’re second-most likely now.
And they factor in the Vidro stink of ’08, while the Angels get credit for Texeira.

No no no we do not need more bunting practice Wak stop bunting so much

by OlSalty on Apr 21, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions

When did Washburn get so good?

by Mejeh on Apr 21, 2009 10:01 PM PDT reply actions

He didn't

"The dark secret of LL is that it only exists so I can one day moderate Graham" ---Robret

by .Taylor on Apr 21, 2009 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions

He pitched well today, for sure.

But he’s got a BABIP of .203 and is stranding more than 90% (!!!) of his runners.*

*Fangraphs numbers do not include today’s start, though.

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Wash will sustain this.

Griffey will hit 50 HR.
A cure for death will be discovered.

"...But with the at-bats that Willie (Bloomquist) had tonight, I don't know that I'm immediately going to take him out of the lineup." -Trey Hillman

by Big Jared on Apr 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Dude, his two-seamer was nearly invincible this evening.

I hope it continues.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 21, 2009 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions

As do I

My eyes tell me he looks a bit different this year but my heart just isn’t ready to believe in Jarrod Washburn. He has so poisoned me that I can’t help but feel this is some sort of mirage.

"...But with the at-bats that Willie (Bloomquist) had tonight, I don't know that I'm immediately going to take him out of the lineup." -Trey Hillman

by Big Jared on Apr 21, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm with you.

I’m not only behind your couch at the moment, I also hope that this is a new found tool for continued success. If he maintains this, we’re in good shape.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Rob Johnson loves the two-seamer.

by msb on Apr 21, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions

And a cure for death might be nice.

Corco might need to have this in his back pocket.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 21, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions

And the babip and strand rate affect his FIP and tRA how exactly?

Which, I should mention are 3.25 and 3.63 before this game.

by Terminator X on Apr 21, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm not trying to be a jerk about it or anything, it's just that pretty much every meaningful stat says that he's performing better this year.

Low BABIP and high strand rate mean he’s getting lucky, yes, but those are only relevant warning signs if you’re looking no deeper than ERA and WHIP, which I would assume we all are. They have no relevance to his FIP/tRA, which are far better than his career averages right now. I’m not commenting on whether it’s sustainable or not, I’m just saying that through his first 3 starts this year demonstrate an improved pitcher compared to the previous versions of him.

by Terminator X on Apr 21, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions

I can agree with that.

He’s doing a wonderful job of not walking anybody, which you can’t take away from him. He’s definitely pitching better than he has before. The HR/BIA is unsustainable, though. He’s still giving up fly balls at his normal rate, and those are probably going to start going over the fence more.

But I’m with you on your main point: He’s pitching better than Jarrod Washburn.

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions

I am Jarrod Washburn's unsustainable HR/FB rate.

If you look at his 2002 and 2005 seasons, his best years, you’ll also see they were his lowest HR/FB rate.

by eponymous_coward on Apr 21, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions

This is quite poetic.

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Actually he had a lower HR/FB in 2007 than 2005.

But not by much.

by Terminator X on Apr 21, 2009 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Definitely pitching better than Jarrod Washburn.

But, we should probably trade him while he keeps pitching like this, because when it all comes down to it, he’s still Jarrod Washburn. Who knows how sustainable this is. The only big improvement I’m noticing is that he’s getting more swings at balls out of the zone, and FAR more swinging strikes on balls out of the zone. If that’s truly the product of his new grip or whatever he was talking about in the offseason then it should stick around, which will make his low BB% and high K% more sustainable, and I would imagine improved movement would cut down on his LD% as well and possibly increase his GB% too.

Or it’s all SSS. I’d have to look at his pitchFX more closely to be able to say anymore.

by Terminator X on Apr 21, 2009 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions

This is my rationale.

"The dark secret of LL is that it only exists so I can one day moderate Graham" ---Robret

by .Taylor on Apr 22, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions

That changeup he said he developed might not be all him just blowing smoke this time

He was aided by a wide strike zone, but my goodness – that was a ridiculous pitching performance.

by cwel87 on Apr 21, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions

and a huge strike zone

it helped the other side too to be sure. but it certainly makes both pitching performances look better than they were.

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 21, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Total Contribution by Opposition: +6.9%

Multiply that by 10 for Joe Maddon’s insane positioning of Gabe Kapler.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 21, 2009 10:07 PM PDT reply actions

Then you have to start giving credit to Wak

for his positioning of Yuni

by Malcontent1 on Apr 21, 2009 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions

The correct position for Yuni is the bench.

by Vatinius on Apr 21, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions

A bench in Santa Clara, Cuba?

by Nick S on Apr 21, 2009 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions

"Credit"?

Yuni wanting to cozy up to Beltre on the left side isn’t nearly as insane as Kapler playing short second base.

Fans are typically idiots.

by The Typical Idiot Fan on Apr 22, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions

My dreams of Jarrod Washburn winning the Cy Young with our outfield become more likely every start

When he strikes out 9, that makes it even awesomer

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by Corco on Apr 21, 2009 10:27 PM PDT reply actions

His first 9 strikeout game since 2006.

by Terminator X on Apr 21, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Of course the three guys we've been saying should be replaced

are the three hitting stars of tonight’s game.

by Rollo Tomasi on Apr 21, 2009 10:33 PM PDT reply actions

I said it in the game thread

but I want to say it again.

We won a game in which our numbers 1-4 hitters had zero hits. zero.

pitching and defense is awesome.

by Snuffleupagus on Apr 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions

I might believe 9 K's against the Angels

But the Rays?

by OlSalty on Apr 21, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions

The Rays strike out a lot.

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions

(Second in the AL this year, second in the AL last year.)

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Apparently they do, yikes even to Jarrod Washburn

by OlSalty on Apr 21, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions

They also have a fairly regular tendancy to hit the shit out of the ball from time to time.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 21, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions

We also have a fairly awesome outfield

It’s going to suck when they start going over the fence.

by OlSalty on Apr 21, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Luckily we didn't build the new Yankee Stadium.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 21, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions

As do most teams.

The Rays offense just really isn’t all that amazing. It’s not like they’re hurting — I’d call them a little bit above average, based on last year’s runs scored and what they’ve done so far this year — but run prevention is what makes them a contender in a brutal division.

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions

I was at the game

So what actually did we get for Washburn?

by Robert on Apr 21, 2009 11:22 PM PDT reply actions

65,000 cases of Moutain Dew

by seattlebruin on Apr 21, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Seriously stop joking

Who did we get in return for him?

by Robert on Apr 21, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions

The Twins reconsidered

and gave us Boof Bonser afterall.

by Terminator X on Apr 21, 2009 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions

You can't handle the Boof.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 21, 2009 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooo

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions

The limited edition Sour grape Mountain Dew in the number of 149 cases. They are stored in a secret place.

Wait for the phone call. You will be advised to scale the Space Needle. From there, you will find the clue to your next endeavor to find the bomber.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 21, 2009 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

A mouthfull of MLB love.

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by kevin_ess on Apr 21, 2009 11:24 PM PDT up reply actions

A win?

by ThundaPC on Apr 21, 2009 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions

A fucking .643 winning percentage!

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions

WHY IS JAROD WASHBURN STILL A SEATTLE MARINER AS OF THIS MOMENT???

by Robert on Apr 21, 2009 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Because he's a winner.

And we need wins.

by Teej on Apr 21, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions

THIS ISN'T FUNNY

WHY IS HE STILL HERE? HE STRUCK OUT NINE OPPOSING BATTERS. IN A SINGLE GAME. WHY IS HE STILL HERE???

by Robert on Apr 21, 2009 11:38 PM PDT up reply actions

Because...

by Fin on Apr 21, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions

This is still one of my favs.

Even though I liked it better for Wilk.

by SethGrandpa on Apr 22, 2009 2:46 AM PDT up reply actions

GRIFFEY!?!?!

by Kirk on Apr 21, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions

You sound like the Jackass sitting behind me tonight

Every five seconds he was screaming “GRIFFEY!!!” regardless of the situation. I get that people are excited for his return but it woulld be nice if they didn’t have to ruin the game for others attending it.

by Robert on Apr 21, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions

I had the same situation tonight.

So frustrating.

by Kirk on Apr 21, 2009 11:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes, irrational enthusiasm also causes me great consternation.

by johnbai on Apr 22, 2009 12:28 AM PDT up reply actions

Was it sarcastic?

by Mariner John on Apr 22, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Morrow needs a better come-into-the-game presentation

I guess he has to earn it. But thinking back to late ‘06-’08, when we were up going into the 9th, the place was just electric with Thunderstruck and JJ coming in. Today, Morrow came out to RATM’s “Bulls on Parade,” which is a good song, no doubt, but it was just like any other pitching change.

Let’s hope that by midway through the season if he’s pushing 15-20 saves we have some good stuff going on, and some crowd support.

Also, I met the man, the legend, the Robert tonight.

by appleshampoo on Apr 21, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions

Man, 5 games in a week.

Lucky.

by Fin on Apr 21, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Nah I didn't hit up any of the Detroit games

And I’m done for this homestand. Would like to see Felix pitch, but I can’t skip out on work this time around.

by appleshampoo on Apr 21, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I felt like a god damn celebrity tonight.

by Robert on Apr 21, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Why?

by royalcurve on Apr 21, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Ah. I missed appleshampoo's last sentence. Never mind.

by royalcurve on Apr 21, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions

You've done a great job

building up this “internet crazy guy” persona over the past couple of years.

by appleshampoo on Apr 21, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions

internet?

That’s the nicest thing I’ve heard all week

by Robert on Apr 21, 2009 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions

If I had actually seen you throw up on an electric fence, I'd be 100% convinced that you are real.

But meeting you for a few hours was enough to push it to 90%.

by Teej on Apr 22, 2009 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions

Just beware his hobo legionaires

by johnbai on Apr 22, 2009 12:29 AM PDT up reply actions

Thunderstruck is just such a good song to come in to.

Great to clap/sing along with because everyone knows it, and even if you don’t know it the part that they play is ridiculously easy to pick up. The build up makes it even cooler, and “You’ve been…. thunderstruck!” is just about as good of a strikeout metaphor as you’re gonna find. Granted I don’t know what part of Bulls on Parade they’ve been playing, but it’s just not as good. Thunderstruck is one of the best I can think of.

Plus, JJ’s a 6’5", 250lb behemoth with a fiery red goatee. Brandon’s a 6’2", 195lb diabetic.

by Terminator X on Apr 21, 2009 11:54 PM PDT up reply actions