Hypothetical Mariners and Royals Combo

by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 11:19 AM PDT Comment 52 comments

So, one of my good friends is from Kansas City and is an avid Royals fan. Today he asked the hypothetical question, how good would a 25 man roster of Mariners and Royals be.

Having a case on the Monday's I hopped onto Fangraphs.com to do some number crunching. I used 2008 win values to see how exactly how this team would do. Full roster can be found here http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pFS0Uk-sE2lI98LXrMjBxKA&hl=en.

The rundown is this team record is projected at 103-59 with a salary right around 100 million. Getting about 25 vaule wins form the pitching staff and 30 value wins from the offense. I think this is a pretty good team, not sure if this will interest anyone but me, but hey, the 2009 MariRoyals are awesome.

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It has an insanely good rotation and bullpen

Catcher and shortstop would be bleh though.

by Graham on Apr 20, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions

Clement/Buck platoon!

I think we’d have to move Alex Gordon to second of first, but it would be a pretty damn good team.

by JI on Apr 20, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions

Is Aviles that bad?

He was worth 4.4 wins last year. I get that what he did last isn’t what he’ll do next, but shouldn’t that save him from a “bleh” label?

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by Eyebrows on Apr 20, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions

And that was in 102 games.

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5986&position=SS#value

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by Eyebrows on Apr 20, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions

Aviles plays second in this imaginary team

by Graham on Apr 20, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I should maybe click on things.

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by Eyebrows on Apr 20, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, the imaginary team that's in my head, not the imaginary team that's linked to

by Graham on Apr 20, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions

And it's blocked at work.

Wouldn’t Aviles at SS and Lopez at 2B be a better arrangement? Aviles seems to be a good defender at short, so why downgrade him to second and open up a hole there?

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by Eyebrows on Apr 20, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions

I think Cedeno at short and Aviles at second would be a better defensive arrangement (+5 runs on SS, +10 on 2B)

And I don’t think Loafie is +15 runs with the bat over Cedeno

by Graham on Apr 20, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions

What do you do with Gordon?

by JI on Apr 20, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Well he did just have major surgery

so assuming this roster was going to be fielded tomorrow that’s not an issue.

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by Eyebrows on Apr 20, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh well then

by JI on Apr 20, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions

It's important to consider real-life injury scenarios into things like this

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 20, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions

Well in that case I'll add Adenhart to the roster

I’d imagine the Angels have dropped him from the 40-man by now.

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by Eyebrows on Apr 20, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Now you're just being silly

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 20, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Shortstop

What about Mike Aviles?

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by vivaelpujols on Apr 20, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions

I much prefer Aviles at second

by Graham on Apr 20, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Who coaches that bitch?

by waldo rojas on Apr 20, 2009 11:34 AM PDT reply actions

Manages.

Sorry.

by waldo rojas on Apr 20, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions

That is a good question

I think it has to be Wakamatsu, if its Trey Hillman he will find someway to get Farnsworth in there to blow every other game.

"We want the ball and were gonna score"

by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 11:37 AM PDT reply actions

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Thanks!

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 20, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions

Got it

Just got a little excited.

"We want the ball and were gonna score"

by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions

HOW DARE YOU

It hurts because it’s true.

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by Rowyal on Apr 20, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Quick comments

1. Aviles 2008 BABIP: .359, so there may be some regression there.

2. Coco Crisp had minimal value in 08, but I think he was hurt for a lot of the year. I think there’d be a great competition in Spring Training b/w Crisp, Chavez, Gutierrez, DeJesus, and potentially Teahen in the OF.

3. Likewise, I think there could be an interesting competition at 2nd b/w Lopez, Callaspo, and Teahen. Lopez goes into the Spring as the assumed starter, but would have both those guys challenging him for his job.

4. The AL record for team strikeouts by a pitching staff in a season is 1266 and the MLB record is 1404. (Source: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/rb_strik.shtml). I think this team could seriously challenge those records.

5. Good question about the manager — how about WFB as player/coach to maximize the effect of his grit on team chemistry?

by SeattleChief on Apr 20, 2009 11:38 AM PDT reply actions

I'd stick Alex Gordon

at first over Branyan.

by sammy on Apr 20, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions

When he's healthy, that is.

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by .Taylor on Apr 20, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm not going to lie, I miss WFB.

I have some kind of weird attraction to him, lack of talent and all.

And really, it’s annoying the Meche is good now. Bleh. At least Ho-Ram still sucks.

by appleshampoo on Apr 20, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions

WFB?

No. Just no. He’s an embarrassment to us all. Wouldn’t Tug even be better than him? Teahen’s probably the better choice but he’s got no SS in him.

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by kabrink on Apr 20, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions

So basically it is the Mariners with a few sprinkles of Royals.

by Wilder. on Apr 20, 2009 12:11 PM PDT reply actions

Actually

The team has 13 Mariners and 12 Royals, so its a pretty even split.

"We want the ball and were gonna score"

by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions

I was mainly referring to the starting infield and outfield.

If Endy started more games last season, he would likely be as valuable as DeJesus, if not more. And if you are going with Bedard’s 2007 numbers, you should also go with Johjima’s 2007 numbers.

by Wilder. on Apr 20, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions

I thought about that

but I decided that using the ’07 numbers with Bedard is more legit because he was hurt last year and because he looks like the 2007 pitcher so far this year.

"We want the ball and were gonna score"

by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions

That would be the 2007 Mariners, if I'm not badly mistaken

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by Corco on Apr 20, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions

As far as silly rosterbatory fantasy posts go, this one is actually pretty entertaining.

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by esoteric on Apr 20, 2009 12:39 PM PDT reply actions

Would they be the Grass Creek Mariroyals then?

by Fin on Apr 20, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Cruz needs to be in that bullpen

Dump Mahay or Corcoran, IMO. And I think Crisp is a little underrated here if we’re looking at total value (defense + offense).

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by NYRoyal on Apr 20, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions

Cruz is in the bull pen

and with Morrow and Soria the final innings should be a breeze. Leaving off Crisp was one of the harder decisions, but being a M’s guy I decided to go with Gutierrez in center and Endy as the 4th OF. A case can easily be made for Crisp though.

"We want the ball and were gonna score"

by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions