Hypothetical Mariners and Royals Combo
by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 11:19 AM PDT
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PrintSo, one of my good friends is from Kansas City and is an avid Royals fan. Today he asked the hypothetical question, how good would a 25 man roster of Mariners and Royals be.
Having a case on the Monday's I hopped onto Fangraphs.com to do some number crunching. I used 2008 win values to see how exactly how this team would do. Full roster can be found here http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pFS0Uk-sE2lI98LXrMjBxKA&hl=en.
The rundown is this team record is projected at 103-59 with a salary right around 100 million. Getting about 25 vaule wins form the pitching staff and 30 value wins from the offense. I think this is a pretty good team, not sure if this will interest anyone but me, but hey, the 2009 MariRoyals are awesome.
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It has an insanely good rotation and bullpen
Catcher and shortstop would be bleh though.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 20, 2009 11:25 AM PDT reply actions
Clement/Buck platoon!
I think we’d have to move Alex Gordon to second of first, but it would be a pretty damn good team.
Is Aviles that bad?
He was worth 4.4 wins last year. I get that what he did last isn’t what he’ll do next, but shouldn’t that save him from a “bleh” label?
angels fan in seattle
Aviles plays second in this imaginary team
by Graham MacAree on Apr 20, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
And it's blocked at work.
Wouldn’t Aviles at SS and Lopez at 2B be a better arrangement? Aviles seems to be a good defender at short, so why downgrade him to second and open up a hole there?
angels fan in seattle
I think Cedeno at short and Aviles at second would be a better defensive arrangement (+5 runs on SS, +10 on 2B)
And I don’t think Loafie is +15 runs with the bat over Cedeno
by Graham MacAree on Apr 20, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well he did just have major surgery
so assuming this roster was going to be fielded tomorrow that’s not an issue.
angels fan in seattle
It's important to consider real-life injury scenarios into things like this
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 20, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Well in that case I'll add Adenhart to the roster
I’d imagine the Angels have dropped him from the 40-man by now.
angels fan in seattle
by Eyebrows on Apr 20, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shortstop
What about Mike Aviles?
St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008
by vivaelpujols on Apr 20, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That is a good question
I think it has to be Wakamatsu, if its Trey Hillman he will find someway to get Farnsworth in there to blow every other game.
"We want the ball and were gonna score"
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by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 20, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Got it
Just got a little excited.
"We want the ball and were gonna score"
by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
HOW DARE YOU
It hurts because it’s true.
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Quick comments
1. Aviles 2008 BABIP: .359, so there may be some regression there.
2. Coco Crisp had minimal value in 08, but I think he was hurt for a lot of the year. I think there’d be a great competition in Spring Training b/w Crisp, Chavez, Gutierrez, DeJesus, and potentially Teahen in the OF.
3. Likewise, I think there could be an interesting competition at 2nd b/w Lopez, Callaspo, and Teahen. Lopez goes into the Spring as the assumed starter, but would have both those guys challenging him for his job.
4. The AL record for team strikeouts by a pitching staff in a season is 1266 and the MLB record is 1404. (Source: http://www.baseball-almanac.com/recbooks/rb_strik.shtml). I think this team could seriously challenge those records.
5. Good question about the manager — how about WFB as player/coach to maximize the effect of his grit on team chemistry?
When he's healthy, that is.
"The dark secret of LL is that it only exists so I can one day moderate Graham" ---Robert
by .Taylor on Apr 20, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not going to lie, I miss WFB.
I have some kind of weird attraction to him, lack of talent and all.
And really, it’s annoying the Meche is good now. Bleh. At least Ho-Ram still sucks.
Actually
The team has 13 Mariners and 12 Royals, so its a pretty even split.
"We want the ball and were gonna score"
by Seahawks124 on Apr 20, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I was mainly referring to the starting infield and outfield.
If Endy started more games last season, he would likely be as valuable as DeJesus, if not more. And if you are going with Bedard’s 2007 numbers, you should also go with Johjima’s 2007 numbers.
I thought about that
but I decided that using the ’07 numbers with Bedard is more legit because he was hurt last year and because he looks like the 2007 pitcher so far this year.
"We want the ball and were gonna score"
That would be the 2007 Mariners, if I'm not badly mistaken
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Cruz needs to be in that bullpen
Dump Mahay or Corcoran, IMO. And I think Crisp is a little underrated here if we’re looking at total value (defense + offense).
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Cruz is in the bull pen
and with Morrow and Soria the final innings should be a breeze. Leaving off Crisp was one of the harder decisions, but being a M’s guy I decided to go with Gutierrez in center and Endy as the 4th OF. A case can easily be made for Crisp though.
"We want the ball and were gonna score"
Yeah
Guillen would mainly DH, the team is pretty short on bats in general, but I am not sure who else to stick at DH.
"We want the ball and were gonna score"
I'll grant you Endy but I'm not sold on the other
by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 20, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
But think of the triples
Coco is a triples machine. And nothing is better than triples. They’re the best thing in the universe… except for players getting nailed in embarrassing places. That’s pretty entertaining too.
At the end of the year, we could have a bullpen with Fields, Aumont, Morrow, and Soria!
5 inning games!
Jose Lopez roxxorz my boxxorz.
54!
The 2007 Mariners + Olivo and - Johjima
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