Griffey brings back old mojo

He’s the reason I’m a baseball fan, let alone a Mariner fan, so I can relate to the nostalgia-ridden fans. But, at a certain point, one must realize that the reason we’re 8-3 is because of Endy Chavez, Franklin Gutierrez, Erik Bedard, Adrian Beltre, Ichiro!, and timely hitting.

I am not J/M/G but I imagine that they’re moderators on LL to write about baseball. To have a community that self polices itself allows them to focus on just that. Every time we have a intervention like this we are adding responsibilities to their job that they didn’t necessarily sign up for. It’s not just because I get "favored" treatment here but I don’t give a shit about how well or fair they are at moderating because I am not here for their moderating skills, I am here for to listen to them talk about baseball because few people do it better.
If having the community self moderate itself allows them to focus more on the baseball content then I am more than ok with taking the possible downsides that come with it. It’s easy for us to complain about how they run this site but we comparatively but we put in 20% percent of the effort that they do. We post but at the same time we expect them to write content, moderate, be a fan and post at a higher level than the rest of us all in the same period of time.

Jeff, Matthew and Graham all lead very busy lives outside of LL and yet they still manage to put in a 40 hours a week here that they may not really have time for. Every time somebody complains about how shitty the LL community has gotten, they should think about how they are affecting the mods experience because those are really the only inviduals that should count here. Without them there is no LL.

One last thing, It’s complete bullshit when people say that LL isn’t very welcoming to newcomers. We aren’t welcoming to newcomers when it is clear that they are not going to have a positive contribution in their stay here which is very apparent rather quickly. But just this week, my roommate was nervous about going to opening day with J/M/G because he has roughly just 100 comments. By the end of the day, he couldn’t stop saying how he never had more fun with people at a game and that the mods could not have been more welcoming or friendly towards him. People don’t just get preferential treatment on LL because they know the right people, they get their status by contributing more than the majority here.

In conclusion people here need to stop freaking out about every injustice at LL because if they don’t stop it, one day there will be no LL to freak out about.*

*This may not be very coherent but that’s because you guys pick shitty, drug influenced times to blow up at.

So long as the M’s are winning. If people want to think that’s why the M’s are playing well, let them have their fun.

I don’t agree with what the poster said at all, but he clearly put time and effort into his comments. I love LL’s standards but they are different than most other places and unless someone has been asked repeatedly, it seems a little petty to jump on someone early on.

It’s a lovely story about a hometown hero rediscovering his roots and igniting a fire that is dormant in the innermost recesses of a team’s, a city’s, and a sport’s soul.

These kinds of stories that transcend sport are something you just try to accept. It’s rather blatantly obvious that we’re head and shoulders above where we were last year with what the public perceives as essentially the same team. Of course, they couldn’t be more wrong because this defense has made and will continue to make this team go.

But, is the media going to find this a fascinating story and easy plug:

Mets obtain JJ Putz, Sean Green and Jeremy Reed.

Indians obtain Joe Smith and Luis Valbuena.

Mariners obtain Franklin Gutierrez, Jason Vargas, Endy Chavez, Aaron Heilman Ronny Cedeno, Garrett Olsen, Mike Carp, Ezequiel Carrara and Maikel Cleto.

Or the Griffey one?

I love being as well-informed as I am about player’s impacts on winning, what they could do differently to influence winning, and what statistics are out there created for predictive purposes. But do I really think everyone’s going to feel this way? Absolutely not.

It was said in the game thread last night: this winning’s going to bring about numerous fans who weren’t around LL or statistics-based analysis previously. Most of them are going to believe Griffey is the one significant difference because that’s what the media is force-feeding, and that’s okay. I can only hope they poke around on this site, check out USSMariner, and realize what they’re being fed is a small amount of truth, and a large amount of malarkey.

You can read it here.

And I haven’t seen the depths to which bad FanPosts and comments can drag LL. I’ve deservedly been flamed here before, like when I was talking about the Driveline Mechanics stuff while in Graham’s house, and I’m the better for it. But nothing in the response bothered me except that people didn’t point this guy towards the FanPost and commenting guidelines. The tiny print on the side bars is the last part of the page a new visitor will explose. I think it’s perfectly acceptable to flame the guy (and my Lord, every clause in this FanPost was a disaster!), but we need to say “Um, welcome! Take a look at these guidelines!” Then flame away – like pdb did in the first comment on the classic “Pike Street stench lingers all the way to Oregon” thread.

2 RBIs and 2 HRs? Wow, way to only hit yourself in Griffey.

although I must admit my intention was more of a general comment concerning the fanpost’s content than new poster education. :D

because doing that would be pointless nitpicking and might make Matthew feel bad about himself.

And thanks for the email response, Jeff.

I think a version of this should become a standard LL reference.

I’m glad that this thread somehow ended up spawning this whole discussion, because it ended up leading to what you just posted here. Decatur is right on with saying that some version of this should become an LL reference.