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Injury News Around the League

Tiny by Matthew on in Seattle Mariners Regular News

Quick hits as we begin to move back toward a more normal operating schedule.

-Daisuke Matsuzaka hits the D/L with arm fatigue

-Xavier Nady has a torn ligament in his elbow and looks likely to need Tommy John surgery, costing him the season.

-Chris Carpenter lands on the D/L with a severe case of being Chris Carpenter [rib strain]

-Milton Bradley remains day to day with a groin injury

-Rich Harden pitches today, check back tomorrow for the latest injury news on him.

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Chris Carpenter lands on the D/L with a severe case of being Chris Capenter [sic] [rib strain]

Not the elbow! : ) : ) : )

by JI on Apr 15, 2009 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

still... fuck

St. Louis Cardinals... defying win expectancy since 2008

by vivaelpujols on Apr 15, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoopsee

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please tell me this was meant the way I'm interpreting it...

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Apr 15, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

No kidding!

I moved my cursor over that and decided to wait for somebody to give me the all clear

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hooray

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Apr 15, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is one of the better posts of all time

though I’m surprised it’s not JI who did this

by seattlebruin on Apr 15, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it just me?

Or did Nick Swisher go from somewhat hot to really grizzled and used-up looking, in the space of about 2 years?

by appleshampoo on Apr 15, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's gotta be tough to adjust to a position player pitching.

At least the first pitch you have NO idea what to expect. Sort of like how I’ve watched good beaseball players come play slow-pitch softball, and take three games to get the timing down. They just have no idea what to do with a pitch going 10 mph.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Apr 15, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I imagine, too, that there's a lot of mental buildup while waiting for the pitch to get there

When you have less than a half second to recognize a pitch and swing at it, you don’t do much thinking. Waiting for a pitch to get there, for even one second, may lead to overthinking things.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Beaseball players. Nice job thingray...

But that’s kind of my point. All the timing mechanisms hitters have are based on mid-eighties to mid-nineties fastballs, and then the usual offspeed pitches.

A 70 something MPH fastball must be hard to adjust to.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Apr 15, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harden just hit

In the bottom of the 3rd and did not come out for the top of the 4th. 8 k’s in 3 innings. Anyone know if he’s hurt?

holy shit its christmas.

by yteimlad on Apr 15, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

He is fine.

He was sent to bat because Lou didn’t want to use a pinch-hitter in the 3rd inning. You send Harden to bat and bring in the relief pitcher to start the next inning.

Weird line on Harden today. Every ball put in play was a base hit. 8 K’s in 3 IP.

by Wilder. on Apr 15, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harden had 92 pitches

and he’s on a 100 pitch limit. Lou had to go to his bullpen early and didn’t want to start with the pinch hitters too early. He gave up 4 runs in his three innings.

by philosofool on Apr 15, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was cool a few years ago

when it was for the anniversary, and it was the player’s choice. But now it comes off as MLB “No really, I do have a friend who happens to be black- I have tons of black friends…”

by JI on Apr 15, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's also based on some pretty shoddy marketing assumptions

Fan: I love Albert Pujols!
MLB: Well, do you have his jersey?
Fan: Yeah – I buy a new one every year, this one is the one with the ASG patch on it.
MLB: Well, have we got something for you! Now, you can buy another authentic MLB jersey, but this time, Albert Pujols will be #42! Isn’t that awesome?
Fan:
MLB: No, seriously! It’s awesome! You have the chance to own a piece of history!
Fan: but, uh, Pujols is #5, right?
MLB: Yeah, but for One Very Special Day he will be wearing #42! Don’t you want to remember that great day in MLB history, the day your favorite player wore a different number?
Fan: (backs away, mumbling something about having to catch a bus)

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 15, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I really do think it's about selling more #42 jerseys.

I believe they auctioned off the jerseys of those players who have worn #42 the last few years and made some good coin on them.

by Wilder. on Apr 15, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you seen the commercial on MLB Network

“Thank you Jackie Robinson for: player/coach x”.

That might be even worse.

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Apr 15, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do players usually choose their numbers?

I mean, I know stars often do, but is it standard?

by philosofool on Apr 15, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Players get to choose when they get to the MLB level

don’t know about the minors, though.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 15, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Goth people have proved this.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Apr 15, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Equality and Freedom are usually inversely proportionate

Thus: Libertarians aren’t very into affirmative action.

So, actually, your comment makes perfect sense (even if it was supposed to be ironic.)

by johnbai on Apr 15, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem is that now they can't STOP doing it

They’ll look like total douches the year MLB stops making everyone wear #42 on Jackie Robinson Day

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Apr 15, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why would you not require it any more?

Do you not like Jackie Robinson?

That’s the problem

Determined, Jonesing Commentor | Proud proprietor of Wyomingroutes.org & Washingtonhighways.org

by Corco on Apr 15, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a good point

I hate PR.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 15, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You could always say

“We thought that perhaps the time had come to find a new way to honor Jackie Robinson, but we wanted to go out with a bang” or somesuch and do something else.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 15, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because over use cheapens the thing

Honestly, it feels like MLB is using this as a way to get people out to the ballpark. If baseball were really ashamed of being disgrafully fucking racist, you’d think MLB would find a way not to use it to make a buck.

by philosofool on Apr 15, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

If overuse cheapens the thing then require it every ten years or something (on significant anniversaries)

The problem is the general public won’t see it that way if they just discontinue it after a year of doing it.

With all due respect to Mr. Robinson, whatever tributes they were doing before the unretiring of #42 were certainly sufficient, and then on special anniversaries I think it’s reasonable to be a little outlandish.

But if you do something outlandish on a normal anniversary, you’re going to be expected to do it every single time.

I think doing it to begin with cheapens the thing.

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by Corco on Apr 15, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey look Aardsma is the highest rated reliever by WPA by a country mile.

And also, Felix fastball is down almost 2 mph so far this year according to FG. Hopefully that is just because of the dodgy ankle and Oakland gun, but it is something we have to keep an eye on.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 15, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

He is also highest in the ACLED metric

which is Aaron Campeau’s Life Expectancy Decreased.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 15, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

What does this mean?

Can you give me a quick rundown?

by drm1125 on Apr 15, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tony LaRussa is trying to kill me

Bases loaded, top of the ninth, tie game, all good relievers burned up, and he pinch hits Brendan Ryan over Ludwick.

by JI on Apr 15, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn't he platooning Ludwick this year

despite Ludwick hitting better against Righties than Lefties last year?

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Apr 15, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ludwick may have had better results but he didn't hit better

LaRussa claims he wants to take a look at all 4 OFers during April, but it’s pretty obvious the right choice is to sit Daddy’s Boy.

Benching a guy who was one of the 4 or five best players in the league last year 3 times in the first nine game sis bat shit crazy.

by JI on Apr 15, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Red Sox better get their arses in shape and start beating up on our rivals. Losing 4 of 5 to ALW rivals is unacceptable.

That team sucks as soon as it comes out west.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 15, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as they continue the sucking

until they leave Seattle, I think I’ll take a push with the rest of the west.

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 15, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ummm....

Tim Wakefield has a no-hitter against Oakland through 7 IP.

by Wilder. on Apr 15, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

it makes perfect sense on the field, yeah

but for broadcasters et. al. to avoid saying it is just silly

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 15, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

silly.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 15, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

A guy on our club team had a no hitter through 6 in a 7-inning game.

After the first out of the inning, our 3B says to him “Hey, you have a no hitter going, don’t you?” The next pitch was hit a mile out of the park.

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by Jack Moore on Apr 15, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, what an idiot!

I can’t believe he jinxed it! Such an asshole!

by Wilder. on Apr 15, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember Schlling being an out away from perfection in Oakland last year.

Let’s hope they seal the deal this time and that due to the sheer embarrassment of being on the receiving end of the feat both Giambi and Cust relapse and go on a HGH binge and then end up roid-raging through LA ,100 ft tall, in a Godzilla type fashion.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 15, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought this was a few years ago

also I posted about it on another board and right after he blew it, I was proud of myself.

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Apr 15, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah it was 2007 silly me.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 15, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a related note

They need an option to move the PIP window because it’s always over the batter.

by JI on Apr 15, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 15, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Side by side works well

if I turn the quality down to 2 bars

by JI on Apr 15, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least it was an actual boot.

Not something that was unquestionable.

by Wilder. on Apr 15, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does that still make it a perfect game then?

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 15, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't Randy Johnson get a perfect game couple years back with a runner reaching on an error?

Guy got cleaned off in a following douple play, so he still only faced 27 batters, which was kind of a cool footnote to the event.

by Kermit. on Apr 15, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If a runner reached base, it's not a perfect game. Simple, clean rule.

There’ve been several no-hitters that weren’t perfect games due to error – Dick Bosman of the indians in 1974, Bill McCahan of the A’s in the 40s, Jerry Reuss in 1980, Terry Mulholland in 1990.

(And there have been several no-hitters where the pitcher faced the minimum due to a CS, double play, pick-off, whatever).

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wakefield getting cold on the bench.

Make an out to get him back out there, Boston!

by Wilder. on Apr 15, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

he's a knuckleballer, he doesn't need to stay warm.

he only throws 45mph anyway.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 15, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

True.

Rhythm plays a factor, too, though.

by Wilder. on Apr 15, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't use the DH, and end up having to bring Wakefield up to bat

FUCK YOU JIM LEFEBVRE. I’M A BELEBVRE THAT YOU’RE A WART ON SATAN’S SCROTUM.

Potential greatest moment of my M’s fan youth ruined in the most ridiculous way possible.

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is for you Brian Holman

[pours out two ounces of beer onto the ground]

by johnbai on Apr 15, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh hey, look - it's Nick Green

Remember when that guy went off in Tacoma for about 2 months and some people thought he might suddenly be a prospect of some sort?

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 2:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Green made an awesome catch earlier.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Apr 15, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

:(

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 15, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I was going to say

but then I remembered the no emoticon rule.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Apr 15, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

emoticons =/= chatspeak

They’re pretty close, but you’ll see emoticons quite frequently with no punishment I believe.

by appleshampoo on Apr 15, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

but like anything else

don’t overdo it.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Apr 15, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK

I still hate Susuki for that walk off homer against Morrow.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 15, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I blame the long half inning

And the cruel hand of fate.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Apr 15, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw Bosio's!

And Gooden’s when he was with the Yankees >:(

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 15, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

And it was certainly on radio.

I have an old tape of the 9th somewhere.

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember it specifically not being broadcast in my area

and the affiliate trying to make up for it by playing it on an offday.

by JI on Apr 15, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I left it recording at home, and went to taco bell for the 9th.

Sat in my car listening to the end of the game, and Niehaus’ classic call of that last chopper by Ernie Riles. Honking the horn and shouting like crazy, then proceeding to the drive thru. Good times.

Wonder why they didn’t play it where you were (Spokane?)

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

For some odd reason I was watching David Cone pitch, when he got his.

Randy Johnson and David Wells also. RJ’s makes sense, but Wells? Can’t for the life of me remember why I was watching that game.

by Kermit. on Apr 15, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Day game

Wells claimed to pitch with tunnel vision because he was still drunk/hangover through the course of the game after the night before.

by edddgar on Apr 15, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't like Wells

because he was a Yankee, but I do admire his drunkenness.

by marinerdan on Apr 15, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I work in the suites

And a couple years ago I was getting a flat bed cart full of beer from the warehouse on the field level beneath the staidum to stock up one of the pantries. I was careless and I had a couple cases of beer fall off and break. This was around the same time of day opposing players start to get to the stadium and we were playing our hated rivals The Padres.

So David Wells walks by as I am cleaning up my spill, stops and says to me “Damn, now THAT’S alcohol abuse.” I’ve never been a fan of that stupid saying but coming from David Wells it was hilarious.

"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson

by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 15, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   6 recs

I'd have high fived him for saying that

But you must have left out the part where he grabbed a few more off the cart, winked at you, and said, “these fell off and broke as well”

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was a fielder during the same years

I put a sizable dent in the rightcenter field wall in a similar incident (without the awesome though).

by Robert on Apr 15, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's awesome.

"The dark secret of LL is that it only exists so I can one day moderate Graham" ---Robert

by .Taylor on Apr 15, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It truly was

I have quite a few fun stories like that from working there as long as I have but that one is by far my favorite.

"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson

by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 16, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

The only one I've ever watched from start to finish was Gooden's

Way back in the mid 90’s somewhere. I don’t remember much of the game other than feeling completely oblivious to the fact that we lost, while clapping for Gooden. I will always applaud a no-hitter, regardless of who throws it and who they beat with it.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno...

I’d pretty pissed if the M’s got no hit by some crappy pitch-to-contact pitcher with mediocre stuff, a scenario I feel like we just narrowly avoided several times last season.

by sammy on Apr 15, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm with Toot.

Any no-hitter deserves applause, except something like a snow game in Cleveland or something.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Apr 15, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still a hell of an accomplishment

Sure, a guy could give up warning track bombs on all 27 outs, but it’s still a hell of an accomplishment

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was (and remain) pissed off at Gooden

It’s not entirely rational, but he took his transcendent talent, dried it, cut it into tiny bits, and snorted it through a rolled up $100. He’s got no real obligation to ‘share’ his talent with me – though if I was paying his salary I wouldn’t be thrilled – but my god what a fucking waste.

So he shook off the coke bugs long enough to half-way come back and he lucked his way into a no-hitter. Bah. Two no-no’s have pissed me off: that one and the Mark Langston/Mike Witt combo in early 1990 – fuck that guy in the fucking neck.

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Langston trashed the org and city when he escaped.

I hated him in 1990. Hated him.
I hated Witt because he always dominated the M’s – in his career he a yielded a .645 OPS against the M’s. He was 14-7 with an ERA well under 3. More wins than he had against anyone else, most K’s… most HBPs.

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, can't recall his name but the manager took a giant steamer on Langston.

If I recall it kind of reached a pinnacle when he refused to go to the bullpen and left Langston on the mound when he was gassed. Dusty Baker on his best day (worst?) couldn’t touch that.

by Kermit. on Apr 15, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang it Carpenter!

I’m still waiting for the day where his arm just comes off all together.

You got slurved bitch.

by Slurvey on Apr 15, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Re: Nady

He was due to be a free agent after this season. If he’s out for the year, does that count as service time? Will he still be a free agent?

by Teej on Apr 15, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Still has to be on the DL, so he accumulates service time

the only way around it would be to just cut him, but then you’d have to pay him anyway, so it kind of defeats the point.

by seattlebruin on Apr 15, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Service time only matters for the first 3 years.

Once you hit arby you’re at it for four years regardless of how much you play, unless I’m badly mistaken

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by Corco on Apr 15, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Miss Taken

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 15, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right

Practically it never happens though because players with more than 3 years of service time almost never get optioned to the minors and DL time counts as service time

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by Corco on Apr 15, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay.

We can look forward to Triunfel’s return AND the G.I. Joe movie at just about the same time.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Apr 15, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hypen To the DL as well

Tricep Tendonitis… according to Baker.

Midnight Baseball - No Lights - Only in Alaska!

by MfaninAlaska on Apr 15, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Fuck no Felix day on Friday then

But YAY I get to see Bedard live, which I’ve not done yet!

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not so fast.

Per Baker:

UPDATE 4:32 p.m.: The team is going with Chris Jakubauskas as tomorrow night’s starter. Let’s not forget, Felix Hernandez has a bad ankle and this was a last-minute decision without much time for Hernandez to prepare to go tomorrow. He’ll continue to go on Friday as planned. Matt Tuiasosopo is still here, but could get shipped to Class AAA soon to get another reliever up with the team.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Apr 15, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yay back to being a Felix day!

I’m totally ok with either guy pitching, but I’ve seen Felix live before so I wanted something knew. Oh well

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 15, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

A new day, a new way.

Felix will pitch a perfect game for you.

Shit, I just jinxed it. Second time I did that today.

by Wilder. on Apr 15, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank God I bought tickets for Friday and not Saturday.

I’d hate for the first two games I see at Safeco this year to be Silva starts.

by BrianL on Apr 15, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since this seems to be the "around baseball" thread...

A couple of baseball thoughts:

1) The way Justin Upton has been used should be criminal. He was benched 3 games just because he started the season 0 for 9.
2) Jonathon Sanchez is a beast.
3) Adam Jones is too =(.
4) Baltimore had “great potential team” written all over it, but it would have all had to come together at once. Any chance it can?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 15, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions  

That's not true.

Their pitching is beyond horrible.

by Matthew on Apr 15, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their tRA is terrible.

So I guess you are right. I was assumption that their pitching staff was underrated, but since I see no evidence to back that up I retract my statement.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 15, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure that they're better than the Angels, A's and Mariners

and I’m quite certain they’re not better than the Giants, Dodgers and D-Backs.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 15, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

They’re not better than the Giants?

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 15, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay.

I believe you. I could have sworn they were a better team.

...and now I'm here

by CapSea on Apr 15, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope so.

I have a £50 bet on them to win the National League.

by marinerdan on Apr 15, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

The Blue Jays got totally boned last season.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 15, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

And yet I think they're better now

pitching’s worse thanks to injuries, but I think their offense may be better and hey, Purcey is ~ mlb average starter, so…..

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they might be better on true-talent

but their run prevention last year was nuts. A lot of that was the result of luck, but to be as good as they were AND benefit from that sort of luck and still finish third in your division is a harsh toke.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 15, 2009 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good point.

Still, their offense wasn’t doing them any favors last year. Better O, worse D… gets them to around the same place. And yeah, that place would annihilate the AL West.

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adam Lind has really impressed me.

I’m sure it’s unsustainable but still it’s nice to see.

by marinerdan on Apr 15, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lind is for real.

I’ve been praying the Jays would get sick of him and dump him like Josh Phelps, but no such luck.
Also: Travis Snider. I can imagine that he might be a year or three away, but he’s an amazing hitter.

by marc w on Apr 15, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

They've both kind of snuck up on me.

I’d never heard too much about them until this season, I guess it’s because the M’s minor league teams don’t really play the Jays affiliates.

by marinerdan on Apr 15, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Upton has looked pretty crappy

swinging at all kinds of stuff out of the zone, but I completely agree, he’s a young kid with a boat load of talent and you have to let him fight his way through it.

by marinerdan on Apr 15, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

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