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4/12: Open Game Thread

Seattle Mariners at Oakland Athletics, Apr 12, 2009 1:05 PM PDT






Erik Bedard

#45 / Pitcher / Seattle Mariners

6-1

200

L

L

Mar 06, 1979



Trevor Cahill

#53 / Pitcher / Oakland Athletics

6-3

210

R

R

Mar 01, 1988



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Is anyone watching this great pitching in the METS/MARLINS game?

Santana has 11K’s through 5.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Cahill is a highly touted prospect.

Very high GB rates [65% in AA last year]. Has only allowed 8 HR in over 200IP before his last start. Features a good sinker and snappy curveball. BP praises his good command and control of his three pitches.

But he has never faced the entity known only as KING CHAVEZ.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

So i'm a bit new

Can anyone tell me how exactly to get around the local mlb.tv blackout restrictions?

by JetersNeverProsper on Apr 12, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Most of us haven't had a lot of luck with that this year.

In yesterday’s game thread, there were a couple sets of instructions, but I couldn’t get them to work. MLB seems to have closed some loopholes this year.

by okdan on Apr 12, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Firefox free proxy in FF3.

Tutorial and proxy list

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hm, worked for me, it was just extremely slow

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wait this is different.

This doesn’t ask you to install adobe flash does it?

by JI on Apr 12, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It did for me twice, but I just had to re-load the window a couple of times.

For the most part it was fine.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good.

Hope he has a great game. And that we never see Yuni again.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

There were some quotes either on Pravda or Baker's article from Wak

And he was endlessly praising Johnson. I can’t picture Clement breaking in as C with the big league team anytime soon.

by okdan on Apr 12, 2009 12:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey, guess who is having a great start to the season? None other than CRISTIAN Guzman

.435/.435/.522 line for a 138 OPS+ coming into today, and he’s 2 for 4 today….I’ll take my good news where I can get it.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's a lot better than people give him credit for being.

He’s a totally different player since he got LASIK surgery. He was functionally blind at the plate up until that point.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice AB

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Aw shucks

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 12, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

WTF mlb.tv

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

MLB.tv so choppy, keeps stopping

And fullscreen just plain doesn’t work anymore. :(

by darmok on Apr 12, 2009 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok Erik, be awesome.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN MLB PREMIUM SUBSCRIPTION BUT STILL WANT THE M'S TV FEED, DO THE FOLLOWING:

1.) Go to the MLB.com homepage
2.) Click on the “Scoreboard” tab
3.) Click on the “Audio” feed of the M’s/A’s game (should be right above the box score)
4.) Once the audio is fired up, select the option to switch to FSNW video feed.

It’s strange…I’m not allowed to get into the FSNW feed from Gameday or the front page, but if I go this route, I get Dave & Co. no problem. For those few LL folks who are outside the blackout range and don’t have the MLB.tv Premium subscription.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Since I know it's what we're all interested in:

The Red Sox are beating the Angels 2-0 in the 2nd.

by Matthew on Apr 12, 2009 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Two pop ups one strikeout.

Good start.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't rub it.

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

What the fuck?

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 12, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Branyan is fucking pissed!

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

How did Branyan steal a base?

What the shit that’s cool

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 12, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

That was unexpected.

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 12, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions  

WTF?

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Element of surprise.

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow hell of a play

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 12, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy fuck Sweeney you are slow.

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 12, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions  

"Watch this hit by Bobby Crosby"

Seriously Dave?

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 12, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I took it more like:

“Watch this hit by Bobby Crosby, it goes right over the third base bag…”

I think his intent was to say that Loafie hit it but did not

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 12, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dave that's not Bobby Crosby

That’s Jose Lopez, our second baseman

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 12, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/2009/03/

Search for the title “Championship Leverage Index: How Meaningful Is This Game?”

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 12, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

From the article:

“This average game, is also, not coincidentally, the same as opening day. Because nobody knows what the rest of the season will hold, the opening day game is, by definition, the average regular season game – depending on what happens sometimes it will be much less meaningful than other games, and sometimes much more. This increase in championship probability due to winning this average game is 0.28% (the increase in probability of making the playoffs is 2.25%). Using the example from above, 0.32/0.28 gives a Champ LI of 1.14, meaning the 82nd game (played with a 49-32 record and a four game lead over the Cardinals) was slightly more meaningful to the Cubs championship hopes than the average regular season game.”

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 12, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Higher leverage doesn't really mean more important in the sense you're thinking.

If you win a Sunday matinée game in April the leverage of the game in September isn’t as high.

by Aaron Campeau on Apr 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

In the sense that

it was more important to the Cubs’ hope, in that example, of making the playoffs, the game was more important.

by Zwakamatsu on Apr 12, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This guy is all over the place

And with our current lineup, I’m actually fairly confident that they will be able to work him, as opposed to last year’s.

by appleshampoo on Apr 12, 2009 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Wasted the steal

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Juan Pierre's girly arm is hilarious.

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Apr 12, 2009 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

KK

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

KKK

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Racist

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Racist against frog-speaking Quebecois? You betcha.

Although they do make a good beer. Mmm…Unibroue…

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the Oakland gun seems slow

first RRS sitting at 85-86, Felix at 92 now Bedard at 89-90. Seems everyone is down1-2 mph

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 12, 2009 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

In Minnesota he was more in the 91-93 territory.

I don’t remember a single FB below 90 but I wasn’t looking that closely to be honest.

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 12, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

So you're saying the carpet matches the drapes?

Über-hot!

"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson

by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 12, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Good point!

So you’re saying the hardwood matches the…I dunno…cupboard doors?

"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson

by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 12, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cupboards don't necesairly need to have knobs

The last house I lived in had no knobs on the cupboards. Also, why shouldn’t the floor have knobs? Don’t tell it what it can and cannot do!

"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson

by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 12, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy fuck Beltre

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow Awesome

You’re still really good at defense!

by cwel87 on Apr 12, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear Adrian Beltre

I love you.

Never leave us.

- SB

by seattlebruin on Apr 12, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

King Awesome

nonchalant making that catch. Groovy

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 12, 2009 1:39 PM PDT reply actions  

NICE

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Getting unlucky so far

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Walk bomb

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:43 PM PDT reply actions  

TRADE GUTIERREZ

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Sinkerballers are annoying.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions  

HA SAME WAVELENGTH

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was drunk

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions  

11

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

StrSw? Buh?

Branyan, what happened to your eyes

by Bearskin Rugburn on Apr 12, 2009 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

NO HITTER THROUGH 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

3 walks

and a HBP…doesn’t seem like it should count, even though it does.

by appleshampoo on Apr 12, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're going to get a hit

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a dumb question

The guy gets to play baseball on a full time basis and get paid to do so. If he doesn’t enjoy his job there are hundreds of people as capable and willing to do so

by Fuzz on Apr 12, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cahill's pure stuff seems underwheliming

If you didnt know and never read about him, he would look like your typical, fringe back rotation guy. luckily he has a great defense and an aggressive hitting team to mask his control weaknesses and inconsistent breaking ball.. He should really be in AA right now.

by Asfan4ever723 on Apr 12, 2009 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Ronny seemed a bit slow to that.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

I dunno man

Brody looked pretty tough as a punk rocker in Summer of Sam.

"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson

by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 12, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

SORT THIS SHIT OUT MARINERS.

CITY GOT BUMMED TODAY BY THE PROVERBIAL DONKEY DICK. THAT WAS BAD ENOUGH. I DON’T WANT TO WATCH YOU GROUND OUT LIKE LITTLE BITCHES FOR THE NEXT 90 MINUTES. START FUCKING WINNING.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I feel its the radar gun.

Jose Lopez roxxorz my boxxorz.
54!

by joof on Apr 12, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Oakland CSN commercials are absurd.

They referred to the Mariners as “The Semen From Seattle,” and now they called the Red Sox, “The Gentlemen From Massachusetts.” This is too much for me to deal with right now.

I hope you die. I hope we BOTH die.

by BRKLN M'S on Apr 12, 2009 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

AAAAGGHHH

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 2:31 PM PDT reply actions  

God damn it

It’s going to be so annoying if we waste this Bedard start.

by appleshampoo on Apr 12, 2009 2:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Shut up, Angel fan.

What was up with that brawl, by the way?

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell I don't know I woke up at like 1.

All I know is Abreu got one up and in after he asked for time.

angels fan in seattle

by Eyebrows on Apr 12, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Erik you're awesome and I think you're cute x

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I feel good about this inning

I felt good about the eighth yesterday.

Hmmmm

by cwel87 on Apr 12, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Mlb.tv just crap out for anyone else?

My browser crashed and I can’t seem to get the game back.

by sammy on Apr 12, 2009 2:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Mine still works

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that was a generous strike.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

A hit!!

Wheee

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

YEAH ADRIAN THAT'S THE WAY

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

FINALLY!

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

WHOO! HIT!

Jose Lopez roxxorz my boxxorz.
54!

by joof on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Wooo!! King Awesome!

Beltre, watch your children. I’m coming!

"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson

by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 12, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Fucking Oakland Coliseum.

Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism

by esoteric on Apr 12, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Come on Sweeney

prove you aren’t finished.

by marinerdan on Apr 12, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

FUCK I THOUGHT IT HAD GONE :9 :(

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

It seems like there are 8 people there.

They should have just gone around town and given out tickets for free just to fill the stands.

by mark sobba on Apr 12, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

A RUN!!!!

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

GO BELTRE

YESSSSSSSS HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

by cwel87 on Apr 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

HOLY BALLS!

How did that get to the wall

by marinerdan on Apr 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

HOT DAMN

SWEEENEY YESSSSSSSSSS

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Apr 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I quite enjoy this team. :)

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

BEST TEAM TO EVER EXIST!

Jose Lopez roxxorz my boxxorz.
54!

by joof on Apr 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Way to go Sweeny!

Zombie Jesus thanks you!

"I call the big one Bitey."-Homer J. Simpson

by Willie Mays Haze on Apr 12, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Come on Loafie let's add a funk to this.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Apr 12, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

SWEENEY BOMBER!!!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

TOTALLY MOTHERFUCKUING UNEXPECTED!!!

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear Erik Bedard:

Please pretend we still don’t have a run and keep pitching lights out.

by appleshampoo on Apr 12, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Seriously it's a game thread, the other thread yes I should have capitalised

it wasn’t done on purpose, people are screaming loads of random crap in all caps and so on and you’re picking on me for not capitalising the word “bah”. That is really unfair.

by marinerdan on Apr 12, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Repeatedly being twice,

maybe three times. Like I said, there have been many more flagrant grammatical problems in this thread, but you are choosing to single this out.

by marinerdan on Apr 12, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well the second time was in a gamethread,

I didn’t realise that the same rules applied. Like I said, human error, and in a thread like this when you’re just typing as quickly as you can after an event happens, sometimes with much emotion you don’t necessarily think about it.

by marinerdan on Apr 12, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the kind of thing that is not enforced for a single violation

it’s a request based on a repeated pattern of not capitalizing the first words of your sentences.

by seattlebruin on Apr 12, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a request that I'm more than happy to follow

the times today I haven’t done it have been in either in a game thread, or by accident.

by marinerdan on Apr 12, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Correct

and capitalization is still important

by seattlebruin on Apr 12, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, you need a period.

HOW DO I KNOW WHERE YOUR THOUGHTS END!?

by Garces on Apr 12, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think there should have been a colon.

Even a semi-colon would have been more appropriate.

by Garces on Apr 12, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I do not believe so.

At least, the announcers haven’t mentioned anything about it. Hopefully he’s good for about 95 pitches.

by appleshampoo on Apr 12, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing had been said.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although he usually only has 100 when fully fit.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Apr 12, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've always wanted to make a "Thriller" remake, but with Jesus re: Easter.

Zombie Jesus dancing, then something like…

“Because it’s Easterrrrr, Easter day / The Romans crucified me but I’ve risen from the grave / etc. etc.”

I think a lot of people may take offense to that.

by abender20 on Apr 12, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions  

When sung in your head

This is actually pretty fantastic.

by Garces on Apr 12, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't like it when the radio announcers start off with

“A grounder up the middle…”

then

“And lopez goes to his right and throws him out.” It always scares me.

by okdan on Apr 12, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

It's worth noting that Bedard is doing phenomenally

and not just at pitching, which he’s also doing really well at today.

When you’re watching a rookie no-no your lineup, I think it would be pretty easy to press, or throw a little harder, or get competitive, but Bedard is gazing into the middle distance and throwing orgasmic parabolas, and then when the inning is over, he activates the same identical smirk and jogs his impassive butt to the dugout.

I realize we haven’t had a lot of experience with him, but there’s nobody I’d rather have in this kind of situation. You know Felix would press.

by khmer luge on Apr 12, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Kurt Suzuki looks really happy in his gameday picture.

---
Juuuust a bit outside!!
http://www.rightfieldbleachers.com

by Jack Moore on Apr 12, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions  

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