Watching Karl Ravich say that Jose Lopez projects as the best defensive infielder in 2009?

by Rudy4three on Apr 1, 2009 10:27 PM PDT

According to Pecota. He's projected as a +11, and Ravich says this is the best mark of any ML infielder.

Excuse me for not being familiar with Pecota and their defensive metrics, but is this for real? I checked out this video on ESPN hoping to see something about Gutierrez, but when they brought up second basemen I was stunned with what they were saying about Lopez.

Anyone care to enlighten me how Pecota comes to this conclusion?

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B-Pro's fielding metrics are not very good

FRAA, which is their usual one, is not based on play-by-play data, making it lightyears behind UZR, +/-, ect.

by Hero 3 on Apr 1, 2009 10:36 PM PDT reply actions

what is it based on then?

vivaelbeñsheets

by vivaelpujols on Apr 2, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=2620

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 2, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions

So it's basically like advanced range factor

vivaelbeñsheets

by vivaelpujols on Apr 3, 2009 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't listen to BP when it comes to defense

by Jeff Sullivan on Apr 1, 2009 10:37 PM PDT reply actions

Sounds legit to me.

me so cool

by Humongo on Apr 1, 2009 11:13 PM PDT reply actions

I saw that too and just laughed and turned it off.

by seattlesundevil on Apr 1, 2009 11:18 PM PDT reply actions

I dont see how thats farfetched.

Lopez already won my heart.

And im a cold blooded motherfucker.

by Slica on Apr 2, 2009 12:05 AM PDT reply actions

By my projection system, Jose Lopez looks to be 13 WAR this season and will undoubtedly win MVP

he will hit .344/.352/.560 and be +10 < x < +20 at second. Yay for making up numbers!

by seattlebruin on Apr 2, 2009 12:23 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Even in your dreams he hardly walks

by abender20 on Apr 2, 2009 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions

I enjoyed that also. SB leaves some realism in his fantasy.

by Sec 108 on Apr 2, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions

Unless runscoring plummets

or you project him to get 1400 PA or so, there’s no way that line adds up to 13 WAR. More like 5-6 WAR.

by chrisisasavage on Apr 2, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions

And if Jose Lopez can put up that line

He’s my new favorite player, and the M’s become sudden playoff contenders.

I have Ichiro down for a .515/0.588/.705 line in 2000 PA with something like +400 < x < +500 UZR in right, gunning down 50 extra batters, and good for +100 runs on the bases. Good for 105 WAR or so.

by chrisisasavage on Apr 2, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions

I would have put that in the Ichiro thread

But don’t want to skew those numbers if someone is actually keeping score.

by chrisisasavage on Apr 2, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions

I'd like to see DMZ's analysis of that Ichiro season.

Sort of like he did with Bugs Bunny. I Ichiro, I imagine, was penciled three spots (LF, CF, and RF) in the lineup, which forced our other two starting outfielders to permenantly ride the pine. Most corner outfielders make about 300-350 put outs a year, so Ichiro must have caught about 2/3 of the balls hit to LF and RF (in addition to being about average in center), and even with no one in left and center. I can’t do the math in my head, but I have a gut feeling this would make him closer to 70 or 80 WAR. I’d need the WAR calculator to break it down for sure though.

by Decatur on Apr 2, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions