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Dayton Moore talks about Willie

Although it now often seems ages past,  it's really only been in the past five years that the chasm has been bridged between numeric analysis neos posting on blogs in their pyjamas, and the old school scouting types in their khakis with clipboards, stop watches, and 20-80 calibrated eyeballs.  Bavasi called it "squat" vs."quant". Of course, following the classic thesis->antithesis->synthesis dialectic, what we are seeing is the merging of the two modes into a new model. Even the Mariners, of all teams, now appear to be intent on setting up a department for number crunching.

Despite this evolution occasionally we yet see  pockets of good old baseball men still holding forth, like shadow figures in the mind of Rod Serling.  I offer to you one Dayton Moore, General Manager of the Kansas City Royals, and seemingly enamored of all things formerly Mariner.  Observe Mr. Moore talking about his team, the KC Royals:

 

SN: You mentioned Bloomquist. How do you see the situation at second base playing out over the spring?

 

…Willie Bloomquist is somebody who we felt is one of the most versatile players in the game. We think he's one of the better leaders in the game, and anybody who's ever been associated with him or has played with him will tell you that's the case. He has great character and is someone who's been part of pennant races as well.

You could dismiss this as the usual stuff that a GM says to the media. Moore is obviously not going to dis one of his players.  But in this case this Willlie is a guy DM voluntarily signed; he wanted Willie on his team. So we've got to think he actually believes this stuff.

Our prospects in Grass Creek are looking exceedingly fine!!!

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That was my first reaction.

But he was a rookie in 2003 and we did well in 2007. So while the argument that he’s been in pennant chases may or may not be relevant, it’s true that he’s been a part of two.

by Double06 on Mar 5, 2009 11:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

So basically anybody who's ever been on a winning team has been part of pennant chases

Shouldn’t they have signed somebody who has actually WON a pennant race?

by Ezzra on Mar 5, 2009 11:51 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets take a look...

Mike Jacobs:

He’s been a part of a pennant race

Hmm, no better than Willie…

Kyle Farnsworth:

Kyle Farnsworth has played in playoff games

This is an improvement…

Coco Crisp:

He’s always been a winner. He’s played on championship teams

FUTURE ROYALS HOF ALERT.

by Vatinius on Mar 5, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's hard to compliment Willie.

Once you’ve said “grit,” “leadership” and “versatility” there really isn’t much left.

by Double06 on Mar 6, 2009 12:07 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Opening Day: Let The Pennant Race Begin!

C’mon already, there’s a wild card now. The pennant race is so 5 minutes ago.

by Kermit. on Mar 6, 2009 12:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

September 2002 callup

So he has 02,03,06,07 under his belt

by Robert on Mar 6, 2009 4:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

How very Hegelian of you.

I may have to find a way to work that example into my mid-term essay for 19th Cent. Philosophy tomorrow…

by Terminator_X on Mar 6, 2009 12:40 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Hegel never described his dialectic well enough to make it useful.

I’d recommend treating it like that section on the map that says “Here be dragons!”

And I’d really hoped never to use my Hegel knowledge ever again. That’s part of my brain I wish I could discard.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Mar 6, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

"Bavasi called it "squat" vs."quant"."

interestingly, Mat Olkin was on KIRO last night, and talking to Blow & Rizzs (both of whom still seem to think there is no way a “numbers guy” could accept a scout’s POV).

To illustrate that he knew take into account than just the numbers, he mentioned that he had just read Larry Dierker’s “My team”, where Dierker (who Olkin described as using both the scouts & the stats) mentions keeping Ausmus in games, even though he knew the numbers said to pinch-hit for him, because he also knew there was an unquantifiable something that Ausmus brought to the team by being out there.

I have to go read that chapter.

by msb on Mar 6, 2009 9:57 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

No doubt about it.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Mar 7, 2009 12:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I really want to see Willie in their 2009 calendar

He has that look they’re trying to capture.

"We are a bad defensive team." -B. Cashman

by Big Jared on Mar 6, 2009 12:15 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I like the guys who are mocking the whole thing.

It appears they stopped guys on the way through the bowels of the stadium and made them pose … so, they spent, what— 10.00 on that whole thing?

by msb on Mar 6, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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