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OT: Ichiro fashion parade

I want some speculation on this year's ensemble before the descriptions and pictures of what Ichiro wore to the clubhouse today come in.

All we know so far is that he is in, everyone was happy to see him, and that he is anticipating seeing Griffey ("Junior," he said. "That's trouble.") 

Will he go with the simplicity of plain jeans and t-shirt?

And really, is there anyway he can top 2007?

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Holy crap, that second picture is absurd.

Ichiro is wearing a sleeveless hoody with those sandals and a retro hat. He’s quite the character.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 9:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't care what people thought if I did.

I just don’t think it looks that great. Props to Ichiro, though. It takes balls to wear that stuff.

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by JLProck on Mar 26, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I could see that happening

And when asked about the boots he would say that he likes them because he feels like a robo-cowboy

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also, not saying Ichiro is one, but...

I think I know a douchebag from New Jersey that has that same t-shirt.

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by JLProck on Mar 26, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I doubt it.

At least not what we in the US think of when we use that epithet. He’s something different. As a compromise, I’d say if you had a Venn diagram with ‘douchebag,’ ‘zen master,’ ‘athlete-level arrogance/confidence,’ and ‘fashion plate’ – Ichiro would be the overlap.

by marc w on Mar 26, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That seems reasonable.

And I should point out that I still think he’s awesome; I just think he looks ridiculous and is almost certainly a total prick. But he can do whatever the fuck he wants because he is awesome at baseball and says hilariously confusing shit.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think he's a total prick because he looks ridiculous?

He just doesn’t act like a total prick – at least not what I think of when I envision a pro athlete acting like a total prick (pick your favorite example).

by marc w on Mar 26, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's fair to say that a majority of superstar professional athletes are total pricks.

Based on what I’ve read about him he doesn’t seem to be an exception. It has nothing to do with the way he dresses.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm...

Graham baiting…

(sorry, I got nothin’ to say about Ichi’s fashion quirkiness)

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

Paddle shifters are the most depressing thing ever

I like the feeling of my hand on a gear shift and my foot on a clutch…shifting gears is no fun without those two. I’d rather have an outright automatic then paddle shifters

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow just noticed that

For shame…

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Buying a new AM with auto is insane

Buying a used AM with auto because it’s cheaper = less insane

by Graham MacAree on Mar 26, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I'm absolutely talking about the original purchaser.

Hearing about the celebs who bought a Ferrari and then had an automatic gearbox put in… that is heinous.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

If you’re going to pay the price for a new AM, learn how to drive a stick.

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer a traditional manual

but it’s hard to argue with the improved 0-60 times.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except that fun to drive != 0-60 times

It seems to me that since most people buying these cars aren’t taking them on race tracks they’d rather have a car that’s got a really engaging driving experience then an incredibly fast appliance

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't disagree at all.

I would much rather have a manual. But I don’t see a movement away from paddle shifters in high performance cars because the acceleration numbers are better with paddle shifters. It sucks, but there you go.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most high end cars with paddle shifters (I'm talking AM, Ferrarri, BMW M cars, etc.)

Use a dual clutch system or something to that effect. You still are required to shift while in manual mode, and it is just as fast, or faster, than a conventional stick shift. I still would prefer the feel of actually shifting the car, but I love the way performance cars use paddles. Just don’t make the leap that an automatic with paddle shifters is the same as an honest to god performance car with paddles

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know the difference and like you, it's a feel thing for me.

I’ve never driven an M3 (goddammit) but I can’t imagine using the paddles feels the same as using a stick.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never driven a stick...

…but I like that our new-to-us Benz has the “manu-matic” on the shifter. I can’t say I’d like paddles — If I’m going to pretend to be someone who drives a stick, I’d prefer that it actually shift using the thing you’d expect to shift with.

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've never owned an automatic either.

In my case I feel that driving a manual makes me a little more alert while driving.

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I always felt this way as well

And I really wish I had one currently. I think that everybody should at least know how to drive one, whether they ever plan to own one or not. Excellent skill to have as a “just in case” kind of thing

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Knowing how to drive a stick should be mandatory

I’ve found it comes in really handy in DD situations when I’m sober and need to get someone else’s car home- on the flip side, when I’ve had cars with manual transmissions I have found I’ve had to strand them on several occasions because nobody around me knows how to drive a stick

Also, there’s typically a huge surcharge to rent a car with an automatic outside of North America

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

You want lack of control?

They one of the continuously variable transmissions they put in the Jeep Patriot.

Those things are horrendous. Imagine being completely unable to have any say at all in your engine’s speed.

I sat in that Jeep (it was a rental) honestly wondering why it had a tachometer, given that whatever the tach said there was literally not a thing I could do about it.

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by Llewdor on Mar 26, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh they are an absolute dream from a physics standpoint.

That’s the sort of technology that will go very nicely with the next generation of fuel cell cars.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are great in concept, yes

But, as Llewdor said, they feel worthless. I drove a Nissan with one and the tachometer rolled up to whatever point and just floated there, regardless of how fast I was going. They are slow to accelerate, and my biggest issue with them is you have no input on what’s going on with your motor. You can’t control engine speed, there is no feeling of shifting, it’s just stop and go. That’s it.

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think buying any car with that kind of money is making a fashion statement.

In fact, I would argue anyone who likes to drive stick is making even more of a fashion statement. There is little practical reason for driving a stick. It’s not like you are going to be racing on a road course everyday. Instead, you are just driving back-and-forth from work, school, grocery store, etc.

But I don’t mind people making a fashion statement. I do mind, however, when people try making the fashion statement seem more practical or awesome than it really is.

by Wilder. on Mar 26, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

I strongly disagree with that

Manual transmissions are cheaper than automatics first of all, so cost is a factor. And second of all, the driving experience in a car with a manual is totally different then that with an automatic, and that’s solely a matter of preference.

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is something no one seems to get.

My biggest complaint about the continuously variable transmission vehicle I drove was that it was awful on gas when driven on the highway (and almost all of my driving is on the highway).

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Mar 26, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only because it hasn't been perfected.

If the brain behind was smart enough and the system actually worked efficiently, your car would be constantly maximizing fuel with the right gearing for every single speed and situation, then adjusting for acceleration etc. It will be figured out.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why not just let the driver do it?

Stuff like this needs a toggle.

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by Llewdor on Mar 26, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'd be hopelessly inept at managing a system like that.

There’s really no point giving humans more than about 6-8 gears.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, but if I'm driving down the highway and I'd like my engine to run 300 rpm slower

I’d like to be able to get that to happen.

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Mar 26, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's where some good computer control would come in.

Maybe something akin to the manumatic systems now. Set your system up to optimize fuel consumption outside of passing and getting up to speed, but allow for the driver to manually tweak as needed.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

RPM is only really determined by the gearing of your transmission

Correct me if I’m wrong, but no amount of computer control will correct that.

by d0nkey on Mar 26, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would in a CVT because a CVT has no gearing

It constantly adjusts tension in its belt system to maintain optimal performance using a computer

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

In an continous variable transmission, the gearing is essentially infinite

and more importantly, continuous rather than discrete. I was referring to electronic control of the gearing, as no person would be capable or properly staying exactly on top of a transmission requiring constant adjustment.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

That makes it a little bit trickier

You just have to ditch extra gears, and only use 2nd and 4th to minimize shifting, which is bad for the clutch, but your hand should be healed eventually

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It depends on the driver.

I get lazy when driving an automatic and tend to space out. I don’t do that when I’m driving a manual. For other drivers they’re more focused when driving an automatic.

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Manual transmission actually allows you to save money

Lower maintenance since MT is easier to service than AT. Maximize your gas mileage because you can cruise at low RPM regardless of speed. Saves on brake maintenance because you can downshift to decelerate

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

But can't you do all these things with a "manu-matic"

Other than the AT service cost, of course…

Both of my ‘new’ cars have manual shifting ATs (yes, yes, we bought 2 cars recently). I’m very tempted to really give this a whirl — kinda like learning a MT on training wheels (no clutch).

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is kind of what I've been doing with mine as well

but I can tell you that it’s just not quite the same w/o a clutch. Plus, most manumatic transmissions will have auto-overrides built in that will auto-shift you at certain RPM/gear combinations – you merely have slightly more freedom with the transmission, nothing near what you would have with a manual

by seattlebruin on Mar 26, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can do that with a manu-matic, hell you can downshift to decelerate with a regular automatic

The problem is once you use a clutch manumatic shifting seems really weird. My parents Volvo has a manumatic and unless I’m decelerating to go down a hill or passing another vehicle I don’t use it because the car generally knows what it’s doing.

Manually shifting gears without a clutch just doesn’t feel right once you use a clutch.

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah the manu-matic is still just an automatic

All you’re doing when “shifting” is triggering the automatic to shift when it otherwise would not. Still some benefits to using it, though. You can still decelerate by downshifting, and you can upshift early to maximize your mileage, you just won’t see as much benefit as with a Manual

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good to know...

I’ve known the downshifting/deceleration thing. I’ll have to see if my V8 Volvo gets better MPG by upshifting early…

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did you get an XC90?

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a great automobile

My parents have had theirs since 2004 and it’s got 125000 miles on it now and it still runs, looks, and feels like a new car.

They only had their first issue with it a few weeks ago when the cap over the headlamp washer popped off going through a car wash.

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 2.5

Which I have never found to not have enough power

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their awesomest engine, really...

…although the V8 is getting mad props, too, now. I love the V8 in ours – in a nearly 3-ton vehicle, it’s well-paired, and that it’s capable of 25+ MPG on the highway is nothing short of an engineering miracle.

It’s still an SUV, though, and I really do miss what my Cross Country gave me — 95% of the functionality of an SUV in the performance of a sports sedan. Amazingly, though, the MPG has so far been very comparable between the V70 XC and our ‘new’ (2005) XC90 V8…

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's fantastic

They only get about 23 or so with the 2.5 on the highway, so 25+ is absolutely incredible

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chalk it up to the motor not having to work as hard

There are benefits to be had with a bigger engine in a vehicle. As long as you aren’t strictly driving in the city then you can usually see a higher than expected mileage figure. With an underpowered engine you have to spend more time accelerating and high speeds yield high RPM. With an overpowered motor the car makes less effort to move itself around, creating better gas mileage than expected

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

This, definitely...

And the fact that this particular engine is made by Yamaha in Japan certainly helps, and is coupled w/a 6-speed tranny…

70 MPH at ~1500 RPMs vs ~2000 RPMs is a lot better for the MPG…

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still waiting to verify this myself in our rig...

…but I’ve read some reports on that. Of course, that’s probably 100% freeway driving, in little traffic, and sticking close to the posted speed limits.

In reality, though, it’s EPA rated for 15/20. Still respectable for a 311 HP V8 in a nearly 3-ton vehicle…

On my first tank in very mixed driving (some freeway, several in-town trips) I got right around 18 MPG.

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find our Volvo to be plenty fast

with the V8 that thing must haul ass

Have you tested the 0-60 on it?

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not personally, really...

But it’s rated at a respectable 7.3…

It’s sick how well that thing performs. It still feels like an SUV, but it does about as best as it can to feel more like a car. I imagine the only SUV that’s less SUV-like is a Porsche Cayenne or BMW X5. The Hi-Perf. Jeep I test drove wasn’t anywhere close…

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Idiots

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Most dealers list on craigslist these days

In fact, one of my inventory management systems actually had an “Upload to Craigslist” button that allowed for one-click posting of my cars

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also this.

I’ve bought 2 used cars on CL and they’ve driven beautifully. As you said, just gotta do your homework.

by Double06 on Mar 26, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think I'd buy a nice car on Craigslist

But the Dodge Colt I bought for $700 ended up being a very good deal, although I had to look at several total pieces of shit before I came across it

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Since it's clear in Colorado

if you want to buy it I’ll be more than happy to deliver it to you free of charge

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know that Aston's are amazing performance cars and they're clearly beautiful

but given the choice between a new M3 and a used Aston, the M3 wins easily.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not much of a car guy

but damn I love me the M3.

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by pdb on Mar 26, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrong

You only have to do that if you get a used one that’s about 3 years old or so. Buying it brand new exempts you from that, and going with the first run of them also exempts you. The former exempts you because you are rich and didn’t buy a douchebag kind of car, and the latter because you appreciate a good classic car.

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Had it not been a “love at first sight” thing for me, I might’ve taken a bit more time to look for an AMG C32 Kompressor instead of jumping on the C320 we bought (which was the first car we looked at and drove).

BMWs are more douchbag cars than Benzes (I wanted either a BMW or a Benz), but just in case I cranked the Chopin the last time I drove the Benz (my wife drives it as her daily driver).

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by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's nothing classier then an Aston Martin

Therefore I’d take a used Aston Martin

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

I would make that deal every time

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

On a slightly lighter note
CodeNameRain says:
March 26, 2009, 8:16 AM ET
There is something about this that makes me so angry, so angry that i cant even type this right now. And yet the mainstreamers want to think that racism is over??? somebody’s relative is dead because some cop more concerned about making a point to what he (most likely) thought was another black man with no respect for the law?

Um, the cop didn’t cause anyone to die. He’s just a gigantic asshole.

by seattlebruin on Mar 26, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

I caught that too.

And this:

rmul87 says:
March 26, 2009, 8:14 AM ET
What is the cop supposed to do…Allow a car go through a red light without getting pulled over? How is the cop supposed to know it isn’t a driver under the influence? Of course the cop is going to question the driver. Just because there is a family member dying doesn’t mean you can just run through red lights. I don’t understand the controversey…

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 26, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Under the circumstances, I probably would too.

Although it seems as though Moats was being polite the whole time.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 26, 2009 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

From the account, he didn't have PoI

then demanded he be given a ticket and allowed to continue. The cop’s response seems entirely predictable to me.

by waldo rojas on Mar 26, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

You really think that? That’s really your response to this story? There’s no way Moates could’ve behaved differently and/or better.

Telling that even the PD is embarrassed and have reassigned the guy.

by marc w on Mar 26, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm trying to visualize

so, he slowed at the light, checked traffic, rolled on through and accelerated into the hospital parking lot where he was stopped?

by msb on Mar 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's how I understand it as well

And the 2 women with him were crying and trying to get into the hospital but the cop wouldn’t let them

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fair point.

Let’s just say that if the video matches the description of the video given in the story, then there’s no way Moates could’ve behaved better and the cop was being ridiculous.

by marc w on Mar 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would agree to that.

I am just highly suspicious of stories of this nature after what I’ve seen in the past in terms of cherry-picked reporting (from both sides).

by Matthew on Mar 26, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying the cop was totally in the right.

But his behavior was predictable. If you run a red light, and don’t have PoI, you can expect the police officer to be less than receptive to your demands. His behavior after that happened seems somewhat dickish given the circumstances.

by waldo rojas on Mar 26, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pol = proof of license? insurance?

he had a license, and not his insurance card

by msb on Mar 26, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

PoI = proof of insurance

there’s no serif on the capital I with this font

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

This.

Sorry. From the article, Moats didn’t have his proof of insurance which is not a minor detail.

by waldo rojas on Mar 26, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

It kinda is though

When I got pulled over for going 75 in a 55 last summer in Portland, I wasn’t even asked for PoI – I was asked for license and registration only. Granted, that’s the first ticket I’ve gotten in 20 years, but it would seem that if PoI were required I would have been asked for it. Very small sample size, sure, but still.

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by pdb on Mar 26, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm as big of a police apologist as anyone else

but they are permitted to exercise restraint given the context of the situation.

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure.

In this case, the officer had no way to verify the situation at that point, and can’t be faulted for detaining the Moats family initially.

Once the situation was verified by hospital staff, he probably should have been more compassionate.

by waldo rojas on Mar 26, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think?

I can’t believe people are actually defending this cop.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Mar 26, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not so much defending the officer

as I am trying to point out that his initial actions were totally predictable and not out of line.

by waldo rojas on Mar 26, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he's defending him, per se

I look at it this way: The cop saw a car run a red light. He pulled over the people into a nearby parking lot (the hospital they were heading to) and they told him a story that he had no way of verifying. The people then told the officer to hurry up and issue the ticket, which probably set off the officer’s alarm because people usually try and argue. This prompted the cop to confirm that there were no warrants outstanding because that may have been a reason he was trying to get away so quickly.

Once the hospital employees came out and corroborated the story he should have dropped it then and there, but that is where he went wrong. Everything up to that point was, as Waldo says, totally predictable and not out of line

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

So he did make it to the emergency room

That’s a really strange situation now, and unacceptable

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

He even had his hazard lights on the whole time he was speeding to the hospital

by d0nkey on Mar 26, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have changed much of my stance.

He chased them for nearly a mile and finally stopped them at the entrance to the emergency room. I had thought they were pulled over right in front of the hospital, but that is not the case. This guy was way out of line

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not really

you argued from the perspective of the officer playing devil’s advocate – for all we knew, video could have surfaced showing Moats being a complete asshole to the officer after a long police chase. It turns out the officer was in the wrong, but that wasn’t known for certain when this discussion began.

by seattlebruin on Mar 27, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's my thought on it as well

Especially since I essentially sided with Waldo on that

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Context is everything for cops.

In certain situations, not having a license isn’t a big deal. In other situations, not having proof of insurance is a huge deal. The problem isn’t with the law, or the cop doing something illegal. The problem is not understanding the context.

by marc w on Mar 26, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as I know the worst they do for PoL is write you a big-ass ticket

which happened to a friend of mine a few years ago, and it was a fix-it ticket, anyway.

by seattlebruin on Mar 26, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

The laws vary from state to state.

But minimally a huge fine and very possibly impound. At any rate, all I’m saying is that when combined with the initial violation, the officer’s behavior for the first part of the stop doesn’t seem out of line to me. The lecture afterwards was probably unnecessary.

by waldo rojas on Mar 26, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I had almost forgotten how kind the LL welcome wagon is.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach would never use the phrase "pray tell," first of all

You sound a little older than him

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach is 16 or 17

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he's 18 (!)

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder why he's a Junior, then.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Most 16/17 year olds are juniors

I was a junior when I was 16 and a senior at 17, it happens when you’re born after June 1st or whatever. Coach will be 18 before his senior year is over

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was 17 when I graduated High School.

Only one person in my graduating class was younger than me.

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Mar 26, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was too

but it was more like 5 or 6 younger than me

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

They grow up so fast.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Mar 26, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

You drink beer

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure they are attainable

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I will not rest until I am sitting on the porch

drinking from one of those, and listening to an M’s game on the radio.

by royalcurve on Mar 26, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go to his profile and search "beer" in user activity.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much like that.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry I've confused you all day.

Two dollar pitchers? I’m moving to Chicago.

by royalcurve on Mar 26, 2009 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh I was back over the last weekend, and it was fine. You get used to it.

I went from mid 60’s in LA to a pea coat, but really it’s not that big of a deal.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit yeah it is, man

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell if I know but I'm down

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think so

I know they have some other pretty phenomenal drink deals throughout the week

by Robert on Mar 27, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Back in my day it was $1 pitchers

nothing like a table full of people drinking beer straight out of their own pitcher.

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by pdb on Mar 27, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hells yeah

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by pdb on Mar 27, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like every Thursday night in Pullman.

Everybody put 2 pitchers on the table. $5 bucks and you’re hitting both sides of the door on the way out, pretty good deal

by Kermit. on Mar 27, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I may have confused him with chrissavage.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was great.

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by JLProck on Mar 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very impressive work with the stop motion.

The guy should make his own show. He could easily rival Robot Chicken in the skillz department, and he obviously has the sense of humor make it work.

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by JLProck on Mar 26, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT Question:

I am new to LL and sabremetrics as a whole. My question is, why is it that all of the other SBN pages that I have looked at have BARELY 1/35238942th of the posts that LL does?

Not that I mind at all, but can we conclude that Seattle has the best baseball fans? Especially considering the records that we have put up as a team since forever-and-a-half ago?

by d0nkey on Mar 26, 2009 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

But we're the smartest and most well behaved losers in the blogosphere.

Also, Seattle in general is absolutely spoiled rotten by talented and dedicated bloggers. Having both LL and USSM is one thing, but Field Gulls for the Seahawks is also spectacular (ignore the commenters there, however).

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is no such thing as best baseball fans

but the Mariners do have the most robust and intellectually rigorous baseball blogosphere of any team. And we like beer. What’s not to love?

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 26, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just find it odd that LL has 50000:1 more posts than any other team

Again, I love it. I stay interested reading LL because of the things you guys say. The baseball is just a plus. I have never been a big stats guy (I loved RBI’s until a few weeks ago). I’m just surprised that LL is so much more active.

by d0nkey on Mar 26, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I've got some good backups, but I think the time has come to cut the cord and throw off my crutches.

I’ve always wanted a minor league system/eye for talent like the Twins and the Braves. Pretty sure we’ve got that now (won’t know until the draft I suppose), plus something above the brain stem besides a shiny head. The team building going on is all-signs-point-to-yes

by Kermit. on Mar 26, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part of our ability to be so active has to do with the use of the reply button.

(Do try to use the reply button, it makes subthreads much more coherent).

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude we have a moose that knows how to ride an ATV

How freakin awesome is that?

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

sadly he stays crunchy even in milk so the moose was unsuccessful

(as was that lame attempt at a cereal joke)

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 26, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was there when that happened

It was so funny. I thought it was staged at first

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The moose almost ran over me once in the ATV

I’ve been warning people about him for years but nooooooooobody wanted to listen to me.

by Robert on Mar 26, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've recently decided that a plane crash is my preferred way of going out

It meets all my criteria:
1) Going down in a giant explosion
2) Getting on the national news
3) Some sort of warning label will likely come out of it
4) The mystery of when I die will be gone but won’t leave me enough time to be a emo pussy
5) I would get to choose my last words
6) Gives me enough time to watch the Romo play one last time

by Robert on Mar 26, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The warning label will read:

Don’t let Robert in the cockpit. Ever.

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think some of the success LL and USSM has enjoyed has a little to do with timing.

Fans wanted answers as to why the Bavasi regime was failing so miserably at putting good teams together, and LL (at that point it was L43 I suppose) and USSM emerged on the scene with an answer: It’s about talent, stupid.

Finding outlets that were willing to talk about something other than the typical clubhouse fluff pieces was refreshing. I think the honesty people like Jeff, Dave, and DMZ displayed when they talked about the team they loved so dearly struck a chord with a lot of people.

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.....

And “Fire Bavasi!” was started a week after or so…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comments didn't come until September 04

All I remember is that it was roughly the same time everyone wanted to give AJ Zapp a callup after Bucky got injured

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

That name's going on my list of weird names.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

AJ Zapp was a beast

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've never heard of the guy.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

All you need to know is he put up a

.291/.361/.523 line for Tacoma in ’04 with 184 strikeouts

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dear lord

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is a bit different from what it's like now.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 26, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know they've existed for a while

but for me it was late 2004 when I began to notice USSM. Before that season I was perfectly content to read the Pravda fluff pieces.

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm to lazy to check,

But he probably has a link to USSM, and they stole the Mariners link.

There are no good individual basketball statistics.
54!

by joof on Mar 26, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

So having never rendted a car before, I have a question;

will most car rental places allow you to request a specific model if they have more than one model in a particular class of rental car? I made a reservation for a mid-sized car, and trunk/cargo space is a huge concern. They have Altimas, Chargers and Impalas and the Impala has way more trunk and back seat room than the other two.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Enterprise lets you choose whatever car you want within the class you paid for

and I mean that literally. At most Enterprise airport locations they walk you to the row containing the class of car you paid for and say “which one do you want?”, or at the very least tell you at the desk “we have Car X, Y, and Z, which do you want?”. I can’t speak for other companies, but I love Enterprise – they’re cheaper than most, you can pick your own car, and they’re decent to deal with.

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by pdb on Mar 26, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been getting free upgrades from Hertz for some reason.

I always reserve the midsize and end up with some hideous SUV.

by waldo rojas on Mar 26, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

For my purposes, this would be ideal.

A mid-size through Hertz would have cost about $250 and I’m paying $100 because of some sort of special they’re running.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another question for the more automotive savvy LLers here

I just paid a mechanic $750 to replace the clutch in my Celica and replace an oil seal. I didn’t get ripped off, did I?

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounds right in line with what I had mentioned before, so no

Like I’d said, you’d be about 100-150 for the parts and 6 hours or so of labor at about 95 per hour. Pretty much right on the nose. And as pdb said: If you couldn’t do it yourself and it is now operational, then you came out ok

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the clutch I got ran closer to $275.

If that’s the case, I think I got a pretty good deal on the labor costs.

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, that'll do

Either way, sounds like it came out right. Good on you

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Late to the party, but that sounds about right.

Labor costs are a bitch with a clutch, because it takes several hours to fix.

by Teej on Mar 28, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

There's an Aston Martin dealer

right next to my office.

I get to admire the cars there every single day.

They have a web site.

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by Llewdor on Mar 26, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

There's a used car dealership by my house

last week they had a 1994 Ford Taurus that I wanted so badly

by seattlebruin on Mar 26, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually think the GT is rated ok with gas mileage, assuming you drive it at normal speed on normal roads

Any car will guzzle fuel at 200 mph. The Bugatti Veyron sucks down a full 15 gallon tank in 6 minutes at its top speed.

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right...

It’s like a Nikon F5 film camera w/its 8 frames-per-second.

3 seconds for a standard roll of film. 4 for a 36-frame roll.

This is why dSLRs were invented…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it an SHO?

I love high powered versions of cars that are otherwise total crap. One of my most coveted vehicles is a 1987 Buick GNX. Better performance numbers than a same-year Lamborghini Countach. Fuck. Yes.

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

as far as I can tell, it doesn’t even start

by seattlebruin on Mar 26, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bullshit

Seriously, sleeper hot rods are the best. I would love to have something like an old Volvo 970 wagon hotted up, or one of those 125 mph turbo minivans Chrysler made in the late 80’s/eary 90’s. Something that just screams “piece of shit hoopty” that I could use to blow people’s doors off

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

One of my friends Moms had one of those turbo minivans with a manual transmission

That thing was flat awesome to ride to school in, and everyone new to the carpool was confused whent hey got in a freaking minivan with a 5-speed

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noooooooooooooooooo

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hooray for the Malaise Era!

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

There was a guy that had one in Olympia

and he even had a vinyl “MUSTANG II” decal over the back window.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 26, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have seen this car.

It still exists…

This signature space for rent.

by PositivePaul on Mar 26, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mustang II's are good for one thing

Chopping the front end out and using it in a build up, just about every custom rod guy I know has a Mustang II double wishbone front end in ‘em. I’m not sure if any ever came with a Ford 9" rear end, they were pretty shitty cars other than the front suspension.

by Kermit. on Mar 26, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 1992-5 Ford Taurus is one of my favorite cars of all time

That was the first brand new car I remember my Dad bringing home, a beautiful navy blue 1993 Ford Taurus LX

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a black '93 you could have.

It has that sad skin disease endemic to Ford’s refusal to admit they had an undercoat problem, and a used transmission, and a tendency to squeak in many directions, but lovely plush seat coverings.

by msb on Mar 26, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

They have power reclining rear seats with cooled champagne glass holders in back

Like, a special cupholder for your champagne glass, that will also cool your drink

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's one more movie on my list of movies I'll never watch

Leave the Three Stooges alone…you can’t even do true slapstick humor in today’s media market

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rincewind is the man

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Elevator Love Letter" as your wedding song?

It’s a great song, but
“I’ll take her home after midnight
And if she likes, I’ll tell her lies
How we’ll be in love by the morning
I don’t think she knows
That I’m saying good bye”

by marc w on Mar 26, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see I need to rephrase the question

Does anybody know how to SELF-induce sleep paralysis?

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Obligatory book plug

This is an awesome book.

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by pdb on Mar 26, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was just reading up on this last night.

I never found anything describing how to do it. However, I did find instructions on teaching yourself Astral Projection.

I’m interested in how you get back into your own body after all that rolling and rocketing. It would pretty much suck to have to watch yourself just sleep there on your bed with no way of knowing how to get back.

by krb on Mar 26, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's mostly just a natural state

I’ve found I tend to enter it about 1 in 20 times I take a nap in the middle of the day if I sleep on my back while slightly dehydrated, but I’m trying to figure out if there’s a more surefire way to induce it

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Paralysis

Essentially what happens is when you dream your body shuts off most muscle control to prevent you from hurting yourself, but sometimes your conscious brain wakes up and your muscle control still isn’t there, so you’re totally aware you’re awake but you can’t move. When it has happened to me I sometimes have control over my eyes (and even then can only open them halfway), but that’s about it. Essentially your body is awake but you’re still REMing which induces some crazy hallucinations.

It happened to me today which is why I brought it up and essentially I opened my eyes and my bedroom door was in another part of the room, and I “got up” and walked to the door and saw myself in the mirror and I was having a seizure. I then realized I was actually still lying down in bed, and the same thing happened again except I collapsed on the floor. Then I realized I was still lying in bed again and realized I was experiencing sleep paralysis and remembered what I (actually, in real life) read online about how to get out of sleep paralysis, which is “concentrate on wiggling your left toe” and within a couple seconds I was out of it and fully awake.

While in that state I couldn’t shift my gaze, so my eyes were open, in other words I really was lying in bed looking at the mirror and the door ,but I thought I was on the ground instead of in the bed.

About a month ago the same situation happened except I woke up and there was a TV in my bedroom and this girl from my Geography class was watching “No Country For Old Men” and as I tried to crawl over to her without being able to shift my viewing angle or open my eyes all the way I started to collapse and could actually feel the parts of my body falling off, and then regained muscle control and woke up.

It’s a weird experience but because your conscious mind is actually awake it has a very different feel from a normal dream

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

There's an interesting chapter about sleep paralysis

 and its relationship to the “recovered memory” phenomenon and the belief in mystical and malevolent beings in times past in “the Demon Haunted World”.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 27, 2009 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey everybody!

I know we are real good at online ballot stuffing ’round here.. and, well, I could use a bit of boost!

In this day and age, working for a newspaper is not the most stable thing, so when I have a chance to win a national design award, I’m gonna try to get all the help I can!

Myself and a few others from a team here in Arizona are up for a SportsDesigner.com award for design of an online interactive. We are finalists, and the winner is decided by votes.

You can click here to go to the page that you can vote on and then vote for the second option “Match Play, AZStarnet.com”

Help a fellow LL’er out! Thanks guys…

by seattlesundevil on Mar 26, 2009 5:06 PM PDT reply actions   7 recs

Done.

Me no likey the results not shown. How are we supposed to throw this thing if we don’t know how far we need to go?

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Mar 26, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Throw it anyway

Watch the vote end up something like 15,000 to 46 to 27. Nothing fishy about that, not at all

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 26, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I voted honestly and once

The problem is without knowing what the results are we won’t know what methods to use to throw the poll

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by Corco on Mar 26, 2009 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully the other guys aren't members of Kos.

Amirite, Dave?

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by JLProck on Mar 27, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I spent two days running twelve network drops from the server room to the training room

only to realize that I was supposed to run twelve network drops to the conference room.

by BrianL on Mar 26, 2009 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

ESPN the mag suddenly recognizes defense?

The website doesn’t have it up yet, but the one that just came in the mail has half a picture of manny, then blank and says cracks glib about the reader wouldn’t accept half a cover.

The article mentions UZR, and the greatness of Adrian Beltre. Bobby Abreu is the example of all bat no glove.

by abender20 on Mar 26, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Hi guys!

Does anyone know the typical labor costs associated with replacing an oil pan!

Also! Does anyone know how likely to succeed a small claims court case against a gas station with a tremendously uneven parking lot that causes a car to bottom out at 10 MPH would be!

These two questions may or may not be related!

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 27, 2009 1:16 AM PDT reply actions  

Roughly $90 per hour

Not terribly complicated to do, so it may not take too many hours

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Take your small claims case to one of those tv Judge Shows

They’ll have no choice but to side with you

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you will have trouble with the lawsuit.

The best you may get is forcing them to repair their lot, but getting money back may be tough.

by Sec 108 on Mar 27, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm telling ya, this case is tailor made for Judge Jeanine or something like that

They take the cases that would normally bear no fruit in the real world and give you money instead

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else having trouble with Facebook being a little bitch?

It’s very difficult to start my morning without knowing exactly what my friends did last evening.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 27, 2009 6:36 AM PDT reply actions  

Facebook is always a little bitch

Its servers are so bogged down with randomly installed applications that it barely functions anymore (unless, of course, you delete the applications)

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by Corco on Mar 27, 2009 6:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I just got peer-pressured into signing up (and, yes, if they jumped off a cliff, I would too)

I seem to get script errors that horrify Firefox into closing in terror.

and is it right that there is no way to see someone’s page unless you befriend them?

by msb on Mar 27, 2009 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Depends on the level of security of people's pages.

Some let you see everything.
Some let you see their page if you’re in their network (ie, you could see the pages of people in Seattle as long as you identified Seattle as your network).
Smart people don’t let anyone except their friends see their pages.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 27, 2009 7:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

For example, Ryan Dempster only lets friends see his page.

Ryan Dempster’s little brother, on the other hand, will let anyone view his page (and see Ryan listed as a friend).

I like using semi-colons; they make me feel smart.

by Llewdor on Mar 27, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Soon I will have a mini notebook.

Apparently it takes awhile to apply the cherry red color, however.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 27, 2009 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah if I was going to be molested by an elephant I would hope it was a girl

If a boy did it then I wouldn’t be sure if that made me gay or not

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

either way you'd be a pedophile

but at least you wouldn’t be a gay pedophile

by JI on Mar 27, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're ok as long as you don't make eye contact during.

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by JLProck on Mar 27, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gorgeous car and that motor is pure sex

But I still wish they’d go to production with the V10 TDI model that they teased as a concept. Makes the same HP as the V8, but with 750 lb/ft of torque. Hit the gas pedal and you can feel your kidneys collapse into the small of your back

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know. The 12 year old that still occupies a piece of my brain is having seizures right about now.

But that is one sexy car, I take back every bad thing I said about Hungary and Hungarians. I’ve got a video of a P-51 Mustang at the Reno air races, V-12 engine. You should hear that thing- the tape doesn’t do it justice. Nothing sexier than cylinders

by Kermit. on Mar 27, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guy fired up a Chevy El Camino the other day, said he had a bored over 327 and tuned 3" pipes.

While we were talking I realized you just don’t hear that sound much anymore.

by Kermit. on Mar 27, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

My office is attached to a shop that services drag cars and the like

I get to listen to engine noise bliss a couple times per day. One rig they fired up was so loud it shook a few things off the wall in here

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find that fascinating.

The Hungarians make this engine, and the engine of the Lambo “Yovanni” Gallardo. When did this happen?

by marc w on Mar 27, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Love those!

Audi R8

Only problem is that it’s an Audi and while their cars are insanely beautiful, I just don’t trust their reliability…

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by PositivePaul on Mar 27, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their reliability has gotten much better

My dream car at the moment is the Audi RS6 Avant. Performs almost exactly the same as the V8 model of the R8, except it is a wagon which is always a mega bonus

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I want one so bad. They don't even sell them here in the US

I think they should give me one. I mean, if I had the $140,000 to spend I’d totally buy one. I would love to be known as the insane guy who bought a $140,000 wagon. Then I’d go melt my tires off down their entire street

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I just took that from the article I posted, but it is a little outdated with the exchange rates

I’d still rather have the Audi over the Aston at that price point. Maybe it’s the practical parent in me, but R8 level performance in an all wheel drive wagon that could very comfortably seat 5 people gets me a little hot and bothered

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by tootthekazoo on Mar 27, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's exactly why I wouldn't do it.

If you are buying a car that ludicrous, bringing practicality into the discussion is of no use to me. You buy the car exactly because it isn’t practical. Also, who wants to have to tote kids and furniture around in your madmobile?

by abender20 on Mar 27, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of do....

If you ask me to pick between the Avant and the AM, I’m leaning AM. Yet I totally get where toot’s coming from on this, and I love the Avant.

I’d settle for V8 allroad quattro/R8 hybrid type deal that wasn’t quite so supercar, but still kicked ass and had wagon utility.

by marc w on Mar 27, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

V8 XC90 FTW!!!

Okay, so it’s not exactly “supercar” class (Porsche Cayenne FTW?) but still it’s reasonably awesome…

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by PositivePaul on Mar 27, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The XC90 is still one of the most beautiful SUVs on the road, in my mind

I like that it doesn’t pretend it is trying to be a sports car like the Mercedes ML (among others), but emphasizes looking classy and versatile with a hint of sport

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by Corco on Mar 27, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

To me, it’s always looked a bit similar to the X5.

Here’s ours:

Not the color I would’ve chosen first, but I do like it and it’s waaay grown on me…

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by PositivePaul on Mar 27, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, time to buy a Koala.

According to unnecessaryknowledge.com:

The fingerprints of koala bears are virtually indistinguishable from those of humans, so much so that they can be easily confused at a crime scene.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 27, 2009 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

He just stopped by my store to buy a cable

He wore his shirt inside out and had a Rangers hat that barely rested on his head. He was kind enough to give a old man advice on how to plug is iPod into his car.

by Robert on Mar 27, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

St. Mirren!

C’mon the Buddies!

But yes, “Glasgow would be way cooler” is a phrase I utter often.

by marc w on Mar 27, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to support Rangers a bit due to Tore Andre Flo and Claudio Reyna

But I’m a St. Mirren guy, and I’m happy with it. Clearly, I don’t want to let ‘chance of a title’ into the equation when picking my teams, or I’d have given up on the M’s in my youth.

I can’t believe you support Barcelona and Rangers. Did you go out on a limb and choose Chelsea in England, or did you play it safe with Man U? Maybe Bayern in Germany, or is the league a little too unpredictable?

by marc w on Mar 27, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I support Barcelona because that was the first European city I ever visited.

I support Rangers because my father’s lineage is from west Glasgow/Kilmacolm.
I care very little for the EPL but of teams there I root for Everton because I really liked Tim Cahill’s performance in the 06 WC.
I do root for Bayern because fuck you, Munich is awesome.

Of course, on all of those I consider myself nothing even close to a true fan.

by Matthew on Mar 27, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Munich *is* awesome

Your support for Rangers seems tempered with practical considerations, however. Practicality be damned! Embrace futility!

I’ve got nothing against Everton. From Neville Southall to Cahill to Timmy Howard to the lion-in-winter Paul Gascoigne to early Wayne Rooney, it’s an interesting club.

by marc w on Mar 27, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Second greatest game in Seattle sports history.

I blacked out for ~5 seconds after the Lofa pick. When I came to, I was feverishly hugging the fat guy next to me. It was awkward between us after that.

by waldo rojas on Mar 27, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Excuse me

There was no greater game.

by Robert on Mar 27, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I call bullshit

This city loves the Hawks way more than the M’s and that win was a minute domination that left the team just one win away from A championship.

by Robert on Mar 27, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

The game was over by halftime.

The second half was actually pretty boring on later watchings.

by waldo rojas on Mar 27, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Walking up first toward the Owl n Thistle

after they kicked us out of Qwest was one of the best moments of my life. Utter pandemonium.

by waldo rojas on Mar 27, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't have a camera,

but I have an image seared in my brain of a fella who had climbed to the top of a utility pole across from Luigi’s and was banging pots together loudly. And a drunk guy standing on top of a pool table at the O&T leading chants. Good times.

by waldo rojas on Mar 27, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I can say is Sham... oh, forget it.

And he looks like hell in a bucket in that mugshot.

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by JLProck on Mar 27, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

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