It's Final: Marlins are getting a new stadium
According to mlb.com, the vote for the new Ballpark in Miami has been finalized for the Marlins, which will open in 2012
Miami-Dade County commissioners on Monday put to rest more than a decade-long quest by voting in favor of a retractable-roof ballpark for the Marlins on the Orange Bowl grounds. Commissioners cast two separate votes, the first came back, 9-4, and the second was 10-3.
As all of you may know, the Marlins have struggled to get a new ball park for a long time, as their attendance numbers have been horribly low, even despite getting two championships in their 15-year franchise history. Their ball park has been the main factor, as in the summer time, the weather is miserable, from either thunderstorms, or nasty, humid heat. It's no wonder that the attendance is as low as it is, having to watch a baseball team play in a football stadium in that weather. I understand that this probably has little relevance to most people here, since Miami is the farthest city in the continental US from Seattle, but as a former South Florida resident, and a part-time Marlins fan, this is a big deal. I can tell you from personal experience that the stadium is pretty depressing. And for a city with such a big hispanic population, major league baseball should be thriving, but the current stadium is holding the team and baseball back.
For those of you that don't know, the Marlins currently suffer the same problem as the A's, smart management but small budget. Ironically, I believe the A's also will have their new ballpark open in 2012. I wouldn't be surprised if both of these teams go far in the playoffs once their stadiums open.
Since we all also currently have WBC fever, I thought this would be interesting to point out.
Last week, Dolphin Stadium was the site of second-round games of the World Baseball Classic.
The Marlins will seek hosting the finals of the 2013 World Baseball Classic. And the organization is confident it will be awarded an MLB All-Star Game within a few years after the doors in the new park are open.
This would be great for Miami, especially if Cuba, or any other Latin American team make it to the final round. And the stadium looks great, I can't wait to go. As you may notice, the Marlins borrowed their stadium design from the M's, with the Umbrella type, sliding retractable roof, which covers the top, but doesn't fully enclose the stadium. And I am still pulling for A-rod to one day be player/owner of the team.
via mlb.mlb.com
Edit: I just saw that someone posted the link to the article under Fan Shots already, so I am late. But I put too much effort into this to take it down.
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Actually,
I’m pretty happy for the Marlins. That organization needed this in the worst way.
by ThundaPC on Mar 24, 2009 12:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeffrey Loria deserves nothing
and I’m really pissed that his way of running a team has been rewarded with a new playground that he didn’t have to pay for.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Mar 24, 2009 6:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No argument there.
Loria is a douche.
by ThundaPC on Mar 24, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why Selig let him own another team after destroying the Expos is a mystery to me.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
by Benne on Mar 24, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see, Bud Selig, Owner, Commissioner, Moron.
Well Scoob, another mystery solved.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Mar 24, 2009 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, now where did they get that roof design...
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Mar 24, 2009 12:49 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
On a side note.
It seems the A’s situation is a little more chaotic now that the Fremont plans have been squashed.
by ThundaPC on Mar 24, 2009 12:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Really?
What is the latest on that? I thought it was set in stone already.
by Fin on Mar 24, 2009 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't get a clear read on this situation
But here’s an AP article reporting the news last month.
And here’s the latest….something or other on this.
by ThundaPC on Mar 24, 2009 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
I’d say if this shit persists regarding staying in Central California, the A’s should consider moving somewhere like Portland. They can stay in the AL West and strengthen their rivalry with the Mariners.
by Fin on Mar 24, 2009 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Living in the Bay Area
Fremont is pretty much completely done, and they are focusing really hard on San Jose. If they cant get the Giants to give up the territorial rights to SJ then Vegas would be next on the radar.
by CstSnow on Mar 24, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Vegas would work though
It seems like the native population isn’t bothered one way or the other (like LA and football), and what casino in their right mind would give tickets to their guests, thus encouraging them to stay away from their casino for hours at a time?
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Mar 24, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vegas is also in the same economic struggle as Phoenix is.
I’m not sure they can afford to build a stadium right now.
by Sec 108 on Mar 24, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's getting worse in Vegas, too.
Huge casinos are going bankrupt. Without the casinos, what good is Vegas?
by Wilder. on Mar 24, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as one who lives in Portland metro
and would love to see MLB here, I don’t see it happening. We have the perfect demographics, and attendance wouldn’t be a problem. But there is no way we get a stadium built.
You may have heard we just got an MLS team. The city agreed to get $97 million in bonds to refurbish PGE Park to be soccer only and build a new minor league baseball park, all of which will be paid back by Merritt Paulson, who owns both teams. The hippies are up in arms over even that. Where do we get $500 million to build a ballpark? Which is sad, because its a PERFECT market.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Mar 24, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh and this nuggest from Bob DuPuy:
per ESPN:
“"There’s a lot of hard work still to do, but the fun part starts now,” said baseball’s chief operating officer Bob DuPuy, who during the debate asked the commissioners if they wanted Miami to become the “only major city in America without major league baseball.”
Do cities like Portland and Charlotte not count as major cities? Certainly as much as Kansas City, PIttsburgh, or Milwaukee.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Mar 24, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but if Portland got a baseball team, LL would lose half of its readership!
We can’t have that.
by Wilder. on Mar 24, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and the man's asking for a couple hundred million dollars
He’d better flatter the living hell out of the Miami city council.
by Decatur on Mar 24, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If people are up in arms about using taxpayer money in Portland to fund stadium construction, good for them.
by acblue on Mar 24, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. The Mariners' ownership robbed Seattle blind
Even though I’m too huge a baseball fan to ever feel much anger about it, it really is remarkable how entitled baseball owners have become to taxpayer money and how dependent they are on it to turn a profit.
by Decatur on Mar 24, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is why I love the Giants.
They proved that privately funded stadiums can and do work.
by acblue on Mar 24, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really not though
I live in Portland too, and I can’t see a MLB team working here. The PDX/Vancouver/Beaverton business base isn’t sufficient to fund the corporate boxes and club seats – there’s only Nike and Intel as far as big-dollar players go, and most of the mid-sized companies in town already have Rose Garden boxes and wouldn’t pay for both baseball and basketball. And really, there aren’t enough rich people in Portland to buy the rest of the club seats and boxes after the businesses get their pick, like there are in Seattle and other, bigger cities.
Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.
by pdb on Mar 24, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, that's the only potential issue
albeit a big one. I just as happy not having to pony up the dough for a stadium and just going to Seattle a couple of times a year.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, SBN's Oregon Ducks blog
by Addicted to Quack on Mar 24, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you pronounce the 'final' in title as 'fin-al',
then you have a fish joke!
me so cool
by Humongo on Mar 24, 2009 12:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention my username being Fin.
But that does sound like a natural mlb.com headline.
by Fin on Mar 24, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should put an aquarium in the outfield.
When they hit HRs they can have dolphins jump out of the water. It would be great!
by mark sobba on Mar 24, 2009 1:58 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
At least
the number of cars in the parking garages looks about right.
by oompagooba on Mar 24, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The team is also changing its name to the Miami Marlins.
Effective when the park opens, I believe.
by Teej on Mar 24, 2009 9:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Like my mother always told me
If you don’t have anything nice to say about Dave Samson, don’t say anything at all. So I won’t say anything.
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by Taylor H on Mar 24, 2009 8:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't find the articles I've read about this,
but it sounds like a raw deal for the residents from a planning standpoint.
The Orange bowl sits in a depressed area, with few shops and lower-mid income housing surrounding it. It doesn’t have many businesses in walking distance, and no core area with anything else to entice people to go to before/after/on off days. Basically all this will do is create traffic and parking troubles for the residents on game days, and not really bring in any money for local businesses.
Hell, they aren’t even putting a rail line out there, and bus service is abominable enough in Miami that no one will ride it even if they increase service to that area. They talked up the bike access and “bike valet” when they were conniving voters to approve it, but what good are bike valets if all you do is add a couple bike lanes to the major thoroughfares in the area? There aren’t even plans to build off-street bike lanes. This means the hardcore bikers and bike commuters will use it, but not families or casual bikers more than a mile or two away. How much of the population does that really serve?
Let’s say they figure that out. They eminent domain and rezone (or change the zoning and tax laws to entice businesses to buy-tear-rebuild the housing there to create a core. They build that rail line and the bike paths that those damn hippies were bitching about. Now you’ve got gentrification on a mass scale in that area, and say goodbye to a chunk of Little Havana.
Overall, a very shortsighted proposal that expects the stadium to just bring in people (by car no less, because people are going to want to drive to games the next time oil spikes) and make an area that has problems magically not anymore. There were much better solutions they could have tried for, like putting it in the downtown core or on an existing rail line at the least.
It's hard to convince people to let you eat them if you're an asshole. - Thingray
by Faux on Mar 25, 2009 7:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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