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3/17 OTFPOTD - I needed an excuse to post this edition

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So it's St. Patrick's Day.  Or, as we call it in my family, Reinforcin' O' The Cultural Stereotype Day.  The last OFFTOP fell off the list, so I'll put one up, because I wanted to post this little gem.

20th Century Fox film studio is now prohibiting rental copies of its films (even from Netflix) from having bonus features and extras.  To get them, you'll have to buy the disc.  It's just another example of how stupid companies are in the face of a new way of doing business - instead of embracing the rental market, as they should be doing, they're probably going to send even more people into the welcoming arms of BitTorrent and the like.  Not smart.

Personal note to Thingray:  drop me an email, I need to ask you a question but your email's not in your profile.

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Ditto.

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Mar 17, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've always been curious.

Your signature says you were “at Shea for the Felix-Slam”.

How was that?

by Zygomorphic on Mar 17, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely unbelievable!

I only get to the States once per year [although probably not at all now this year now that the economy has collapsed] so I studied the schedule carefully. I decided on the Mets/Mariners series at Shea as I was desperate to see Johan. Then the God’s [and rotations] conspired to throw Felix against Johan for the first game of the series, and the rest is history. When he hit the slam I started cheering like I do when my team scores at a football game – and all around me there was silence! :D

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Mar 17, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

So do I

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

The next person to pinch me gets a swift kick to the groin, guy or girl.

The fact that I’m not wearing green means bupkus, you fucking idiots.

Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Preserved In All His Greatness - R.I.P. The Reignman 1989 to 1997

by JLProck on Mar 17, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've been pinched three times already...

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

It evidently extends to high school as well.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

See I went with not going to school

Much easier

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have a Nokia

:(

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

No frownies

I am rocking Finland’s best as well

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nokias were cool to a nine-year-old in 2003 France.

But now they don’t come with Space Invaders…!

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

The E-71 is the most incredible phone I have ever used

I get nothing but comments about it when I use it (which drives me crazy, btw). I don’t need space invaders when I can install SCUMMVM and play Full Throttle and Monkey Island on my cell phone

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I prefer the classics, like Snake II.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I miss me some snake

Thank god it’s built into gmail

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

My 5 year old pinched me this morning because I had no green on

Then I got to give him a soft punch to the arm because my watch strap is green

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

True

But I was always the one in grade school to make my green inconspicuous so I could play the ol’ “punch for a mis-pinch” game

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've played several St. Patty's shows down in Pioneer Square,

and after having to evacuate the bar in the middle of our set because some place nearby was tear gassed, I’m pretty much through playing shows on amateur night. There’s always some massive fight in the streets on those nights.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 17, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Out of curiousity, why?

The fact that it encourages lame people to go to lame bars and drink lame beer contaminated with food coloring? The this-has-nothing-to-do-with-anything of it?

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't get it.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Once you get older you'll find someone.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could be like Graham and get my girlfriend to post on LL.

Of course, this would require actually having one.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, Taylor.

BVASEKETBALL FUCLSED OVER UW - Robert

by royalcurve on Mar 17, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, I'm the man from Enumclaw.

Not really from there, but I lived there for a few years when I was a kid. I was too young to get into the horse scene, though.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like you too.

BVASEKETBALL FUCLSED OVER UW - Robert

by royalcurve on Mar 17, 2009 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm indifferent to it.

BVASEKETBALL FUCLSED OVER UW - Robert

by royalcurve on Mar 17, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh amateur nights.

I became an old man on St. Patrick’s Day 2001 when a drunk prison guard maced me. I stay at home on amateur nights now for my own safety.

However, if I was superstitious I would go to Kell’s tonight and get maced as 2001 was a decent year for Mariner baseball.

by Sec 108 on Mar 17, 2009 10:41 AM PDT reply actions  

I've been avoiding amateur night for about the same amount of time

but made plans to try out Galway Arms tonight around 6. Probably won’t find a seat, but at least the Irish Immigrant is next door to suck most of the frat boys in. And maybe the Owl and Thistle Band will play a set.

by johnbai on Mar 17, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

never underestimate the volume of frat boys in a bar on St Pats day

honestly, you should probably just avoid it and go to a non-Irish bar. Drunk people in mass quantities, especially those that only drink once a year, are incredibly annoying.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally,

I don’t much appeal in Irish bars any day of the year.

95% all serve the same beer and food.

by Matthew on Mar 17, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's more about the Irish drinking music to me

and catching a little Mardi Gras style party vibe

by johnbai on Mar 17, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Irish bars in Ireland are great

the Irish bars in the US that try to “be Irish” are incredibly annoying.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

It can suck it even more because Guinness is actually responsible for it in a lot of cases

they sell kits. There are Guinness Irish pubs in places where Irish people have never been.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it's just Matthew and I on this, but the stuff has its place.

Maybe it’s just good memories, but it’s a very solid option for watching football or football on a Saturday/Sunday morning.

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Addendum: for me, it's mainly that it's available everywhere.

If, say, my local footie bar had Young’s DC Stout or Sam Smith’s Oatmeal Stout on tap, I wouldn’t touch Guinness.

by Matthew on Mar 17, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm more pissed off with places that have 15 IPAs and no Scotch ale or bitters

I’ll always think the world of you, Parkway Tavern, but throw a goddamned bone to beer lovers who don’t particularly want a million different IPAs.

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amen.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, absolutely.

This is why I really like Collins Pub’s beer list. They don’t have a ton of taps, but they always have a wide variety of styles to choose from.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

THANK YOU

Stupid Guinness that looked so damn tempting at 11am on Sunday and then tasted like sawdust.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 17, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh crap.

But the frat boys will still probably go to Fin McCool’s instead, right?

by johnbai on Mar 17, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Either there or the Gnar.

Or however you spell the name of that place.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No kidding. But the owners opened a bar in Tacoma :(

It’s actually less douchey than the Emigrant, but, y’know, damning with faint praise and all that.

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I pray for this on every night out.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And headbashing soccer hooligans.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used to really like the Galway arms.

For Aaron – I went to the Galway Arms immediately after seeing Lightning Bolt, so that I could put my head back on my body, and think for a moment about what just happened.

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just remember how complex the beginning of 2007 was.

First, we played the Sox in Japan. Then we went back to the US and played Spring Training games. Then we had Opening Day, again.

Please let that never happen again.

by Zygomorphic on Mar 17, 2009 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

here you go:

from ESPN at the end of ’07:

Boston and Oakland will be the third set of teams to open the 2008 regular season at the Tokyo Dome, following the New York Mets and Chicago Cubs (2000), and the New York Yankees and Tampa Bay Devil Rays (2004). A scheduled 2003 series between Oakland and Seattle at the Tokyo Dome was canceled because of the threat of war in Iraq.

by msb on Mar 17, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldnt mind

Seeing flipper in the early 80’s…. not the flipper of today

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

by wadswerth on Mar 17, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meh.

Could be amazing, but could be terrible. I think you’d have to be in the right mood for Svenoni-isms.

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no bands I have not seen that I would want to see

unless you’re talking historically and then I want to see The Jam.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish I liked Paul Weller's solo stuff enough to go see him next month

but I can’t do it because the non-Jamness of it (even though he’ll do a few Jam covers) would just disappoint me.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way I'd consider going to that.

You at least liked the Style Council. Yeesh.
Same with Westerberg; I’d just rather not see what he’s up to these days.

I used to be that way with Crooked Fingers, since I was so into Archers of Loaf in the 90s. But as long as you go into forgetting that he’s got any association with AoL, it’s fine on its own. This is not the case with Mr. Weller, however.

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I saw Westerberg one time too many

I saw some absolutely stellar Westerberg solo shows, most of which came in between 14 Songs and the next album when he didn’t have a lot of solo stuff so he played two of his solo songs and then ‘Mats songs for an hour. The last time I saw him was just horrible. He looked like he didn’t want to be there, his band was mediocre, and he basically just bored everyone into submission. it left a really bad taste in my mouth.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

T Rex.

BVASEKETBALL FUCLSED OVER UW - Robert

by royalcurve on Mar 17, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

betterrrrrrr is your God?

What kind of weird things do you kids worship?!?

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just got an Outlook invite to go to this bar that has sweet sweet beer after work

but I kind of wanted to stay a bit later today to make up some extra time for Thursday.

Why must my life be so difficult?!

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dang, you're ancient.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yupppp

three new multiplayer maps and one new Nazi Zombies map based on Asylum

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hooray!

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

TIGER UPPERCUT!

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

HARUKEN!

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

*HADOUKEN

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

SONIC BOOM

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

PDB, I can't find your email either.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

click on the link in my sig

there’s a contact link in there.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or maybe there's not

ngftblog at gmail dot com

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm on it.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

W/R/T the Fox thing;

It’s going to backfire. In my experience, most of the people that rent movies could give a crap about special features unless they’re renting a collector’s edition or a Criterion DVD. If something is worth having a collector’s edition of, stores will buy it on Amazon just like they do with Weinstein movies. However, when customers ask why there aren’t special features on the movies they’re renting and they hear the explanation it’s more likely to piss them off than to make them want to buy the movie.

The studios have been trying to put rental companies out of business for years despite the metric fucktons of cash they’ve made because of them. Didn’t work in the past, isn’t going to work now.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Doesn't it make a lot of sense to encourage renting in this economy, too?

I would think that people would be much more inclined to rent or download a movie rather than spend the $15 to buy the DVD in times like this when renting only costs a few dollars and downloading is (theoretically) free.

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thought process is

 Drive rental businesses out of the market—→distribute movies digitally. Despite the fact that consumers don’t want digital distribution.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

And Blu-ray movies are around $35.

I have a player, and I’m still not going to buy any movies other than my absolute favorites until those prices come down.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless someone steals your HD DVD player.

But yeah, I’m holding onto it. I’ll try to find another Xbox 360 HD DVD drive for cheap. I’ve seen them for around $50.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yesssssss.

I bought a few movies on HD DVD that I don’t own in any other format. Planet Earth was the big one, but I also have Blazing Saddles, A Clockwork Orange and some others that I really don’t want to re-buy.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

You weren't bullshittin'

I wonder how many people other than me have purchased two of these stupid things.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did this

It upconverts better than my old first gen upconverting Samsung, and it’s a damn site smaller. And HD-DVD’s are cheap cheap cheap

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bought the first season of Heroes today for $9.99

I don’t really care to see it, but I’ll give it a shot since the lady is interested.

Fry’s had all the HD DVD movies for around $8, but the selection was pretty terrible.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I got Smokey and the Bandit for $5.99 a couple weeks back

Walked past it on the shelf and kept going through the store. Halfway through, I started to hear it in my head…
Eastbound and dooooown, loaded up and truckin!
I walked out with it

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I tried to buy the whole thing from Borders' website for $9.95

It sold out before my order processed though :(

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sample size of 1,

but the standard-def version of The Dark Knight looked like shit on my PS3 Blu-ray player. It’s supposed to upconvert, but it looked like a VHS. I might have to tweak something.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

So maybe it was just that film?

Have you had more success on the PS3 using other SD movies?

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously, the standard definition Dark Knight looked horrid.

People that rented it without seeing in the theatre complained about how they didn’t understand all the praise it had been getting because of how bad it looked.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's pretty cold.

I’m glad to hear it, because that it’s not the fault of my setup, but now I’m pissed that I bought a shitty version of a movie that I’d probably like to watch again several times.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was the conspiracy rumor

That they made it look bad to bolster sales of the Blu-Ray (thus selling more BR players)

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’ve seen some fantastic looking SD-DVDs that up converted well (Immagine in Cornice comes to mind), but the Dark Knight looked like pure shit. I dunno if it’s because the movie is so long, or whether they just want people to buy Blu-Rays but it is the worst DVD I’ve seen.

by JI on Mar 17, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The video game industry cant stand rental outlets either.

God help them if publishers decide to lock out content from rental video games.

by BrianL on Mar 17, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thought process of these people astounds me.

I bought plenty of video games because I thought they were worth it after renting them. I would not have bought them otherwise.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm the same way.

If a video game is borderline in my mind, I’m going to rent it first and then determine if I’m going to buy it.

If I can’t rent the game to check it out, I guarantee you I will not buy it.

by BrianL on Mar 17, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I subscribe to GameFly.

If I really enjoy a game, I buy the copy that I rented. I’d say half my video games were purchased with the “Keep It” button. Now I only pay about $45 instead of the $60, and I don’t know how much the developers and publishers get for that, but I definitely buy the games I want to hold on to.

Focusing on downloadable add-on content and Internet play is what developers need to keep doing, not trying to snuff out a market that keeps them from pumping out shitty games.

Movies are kind of a different story, though, since all but your favorites can be watched in a couple of hours and then never have much value to you again.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, which means that trying to force consumers into buying movies is a bad idea.

Retarded collector scum types (like me!) are going to buy DVDs no matter what, but most people aren’t. If they’re not selling tons of movies to rental businesses, how are they going to make up the difference?

As an example, last week I opened 16 copies of Milk at a cost of $302.24. There are at least ten other stores in Seattle of similar size (and I think there are actually more than that) that did the same or more. That’s a pretty big chunk of change.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do movies stores pay retail prices?

I worked in the video department of a grocery store in high school, and I seem to recall some movies costing us $60 or $70 apiece. But that was back in the VHS days, when every movie you wanted wasn’t available for sale.

by Teej on Mar 17, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

SOMEONE GET ME MY PANTS, I'VE GOT WORK TO DO!!!!!!!

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's one hell of a marketing campaign.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brilliant

My kid was all excited when he saw the commercial where Jack got out of the bed and he laughed hysterically (as did I) at the “Get me my pants!” line

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

This is pretty inventive.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 17, 2009 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I saw that over the weekend

I’m still amazed by it. The amount of editing involved in getting that all lined up must have been one hell of an undertaking

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

WOW.

BVASEKETBALL FUCLSED OVER UW - Robert

by royalcurve on Mar 17, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was the exact same thing I said

At least 15 times while watching it the first time

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

All the talk of beer in this diary has got me really pining for a night out.

Instead, I’m back in work tomorrow to make an easter egg display at work. :/

Thankfully I finish this job in a few weeks and then I will gave access to a computer in the office all day just in time for the start of the season. I’m so going to get sacked due to baseball this year, I just know it…

I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.

by EnglishMariner on Mar 17, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Seems early to me.

But with retail creep and all, Christmas decorations can’t be far behind.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Red and green easter eggs

With little bows on them

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

A LL regulars poll

WRT to the OTFPOTD, it seems like there’s enough interest to post one every day, since whenever there’s a new one it gets a minimum of 300 or so comments on the day it’s posted.

However, when we wait a few days, the comment flow in the older ones slowly trickles off.

Should we keep it as we’ve done the last few weeks and only have an OTFPOTD once we have too many comments in the old one, or should we go back to posting them daily?

I personally think we should go back to posting daily in light of my first point, that there’s always interest when we get a new one. However, it means that the regulars (ya’ll know who you are) should probably do a better job trying to get a new post up semi-regularly.

Thoughts?

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I think the main issue was the quality of the content within the OFFTOP

By leaving ones up for a few days would enable longer, more meaningful conversations that make them worth reading. Plus by making them last longer a side effect would be that in order to replace one, somebody would have to put more thought into the original post and thus raise the quality even more.

by Robert on Mar 17, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that the intent was good, but I think what we've seen is that we just end up not posting at all in them

and although maybe it would be nice to become really baseball-centric, this community has clearly developed beyond that, and I think by not providing a daily, or perhaps every-other-day outlet, we’ve hurt the quality of the community.

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be fine with daily, as I often am OT.

and it would be a place to stick oddities that probably don’t really belong as fanposts (or at least don’t get read as fanposts, like my note about Mike Salk joining KIRO as a host/baseball guy)

by msb on Mar 17, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

What actually gets me is the overzealousness in calling something LLLJ.

I understand some posts are simply worthless, if what’s the deal if I like something and want to share it in an OFFTOP thread?

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 17, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem (and I think almost all of us do this) is that we need to do a better job as a whole posting in a way that stimulates discussion

sure it’s nice to have a personal Twitter that lot’s of people read, but if it’s on LL, we need to be better at phrasing it in a way that will promote some sort of worthwhile discussion, regardless of topic, even if said discussion is weird and completely off-the-wall.

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I probably should have pointed that out

though I would argue that there are a few running memes that we haven’t run into the ground and me opening an OTFPOTD with a comment that contains only “hi” is one of them.

This does of course apply to myself as well, I should make that completely clear.

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

How about a one word post that says “Steak!”

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again, the "Hi!" thing is a meme.

Much like chatspeak not being tolerated but zomg no politics being okay.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, I didn't know that.

I’d still say that the ‘if it’s a meme it’s OK thing" may be tricky to enforce, and it might engender some confusion amongst non-regulars (or regulars like me who didn’t know it was a meme).

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

BRAINS.......

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure

It’s the difference between randomly exclaiming something and expecting other people (and by this I mean me) to find someone’s life interesting/funny

by Graham MacAree on Mar 17, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

And here we all thought you cared about us...

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not overzealousness

It’s repeated failure to follow the comment guidelines that J/M/g have put down.

by Robert on Mar 17, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not my place to answer that

but Robert’s zany hijinks are on a completely different plane from the types of behavior that are problematic.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

This answer makes sense to me.

It also explains why I will never be 100% a part of this place.

I really cannot say much more than that, but I will say that it is in no way a slight on Jeff. I owe Jeff more than I could ever say, but I do not love every single little thing that Jeff loves. I have my own personality and it is far different than his.

by Sec 108 on Mar 17, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm good with not having one every day

I think the “when it falls off the sidebar or gets more than 1000 posts” rule is a good one.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 17, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

With further thought I agree with this.

Especially during the baseball season.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think since baseball started, interest has been lower.

I wouldn’t mind a daily OTFP, but I’m not sure how everyone else feels. I tend to avoid old ones because I never know if people are still reading them.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

As long as there are still new posts, people will read them.

It just should be clear that they’re active until there’s a new one.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 17, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

People can see if there are new posts or not. But once it gets too big or drops off the sidebar it should be replaced. Maybe the OTFPOTW.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

So the lesson here

is that it’s okay to post in old OTFPOTDs. In fact, keep posting in them until they hits the ~750 comment mark or until it has fallen midway down the fanposts list.

by BrianL on Mar 17, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   5 recs

Seems about right.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel we need to highlight this.

Hey everyone. Look over here. These are our OFF rules.

by Kirsten Schlewitz on Mar 17, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec it till it's green.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think what I'm saying though is that the posts get really inactive after just one day

and whenever someone posts a new one, there’s plenty of interest and new topics to create interesting (or long) discussion

by seattlebruin on Mar 17, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

I think it’s kind of a distraction from the content of the site when half of the fanposts on the sidebar are OTFPOTD. One is fine IMO.

by OlSalty on Mar 17, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Were people not posting them because there was a mandate to make them last longer?

I felt that after the QC thread and subsequent discussions had greatly improved the OFFTOP quality. But it seemed that at some point the threads stopped being a daily occurrence. Was there any kind of discussion that spawned this that I happened to miss? I’m curious.

That being said, I don’t see much issue with them being daily. It doesn’t hurt the site, and I did notice a lack of daily posting going on within the existing threads when they go beyond a day old. In contrast to what Robert said above, it seemed to spawn less conversation because the threads went forgotten after the first day. I’m all for them being daily

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guess I should have read through first before posting this

The 750 or obscurity rule is completely reasonable and will be easy to adhere to

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

While I'm not always able to put up a new OFFTOP bright and early most mornings,

I don’t see the problem with them being daily. However, I’m far from being someone who calls the shots around here.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 17, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I remember a time

When some 12 year old kids were in the box suite next to me talking to themselves about how awesome Sexon was… I couldn’t help myself but to explain to them, that if the pitcher pitches the ball right where he is swinging he has great homerun power. Unfortunately the pitcher threw him something low and away..

by d0nkey on Mar 17, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Coach Owens

A old bench coach for the San Antonio Missions back when they were our AA affliate. He went bonkers one day and attacked a umpire with his bat.

by Robert on Mar 17, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did anyone have any luck getting Elton John/Billy Joel tickets?

I got skunked.

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 3:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I managed to get a ticket.

Well, a friend of mine managed to snag tickets for a group of people I graduated from high school with. Set me back a cool $180, though.

by BrianL on Mar 17, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ouch.

I found two tickets for about $300.00 total, and I said no way… I’ll try to score some later when they either release more or I can find them on Stub-Hub etc…

"Fights begin, finger prints are took, days is lost, bail is made, court dates are ignored, cycle is repeated."

by Thingray on Mar 17, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bert Janch really got the shaft

When Nick Drake got appointed the god of pretentious mopey English folk songs. He should get his due.

by johnbai on Mar 17, 2009 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

They're all getting their due these days

Shirley Collins, Vashti Bunyan, now Anne Briggs.

by marc w on Mar 17, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?!

Were you too busy having high expectation of Wes Anderson to enjoy what he had actually created?
Watch this trailer again: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UwpaRqDRvs
and tell me that was a bad film.

And if you do, I’ll hit you in the face with my belt buckle.

by johnbai on Mar 17, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wes Anderson has made a really good film

and a decent film or two. That doesn’t mean he deserves death, it makes me lament the fact that he’s made some shite.

by marc w on Mar 18, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still opting for death

and the death I wish for him is a death by precious, overwritten characters that twee him to death.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 18, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Bottle Rocket and Rushmore.

After that, I haven’t been very impressed.

by Teej on Mar 18, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I liked Life Aquatic.

Didn’t like Royal Tenenbaums, though.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 18, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bottle rocket is a decent movie that doesn't hold up to repeat viewings as well.

Rushmore is pure quality.
After that…..

(ok, campeau, how did you hate Rushmore?)

by marc w on Mar 18, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wes Anderson's movies are pretty to look at and they have great soundtracks.

They also have painfully contrived characters, jokes and storylines. Wes Anderson makes movies about the way people wish they were and does so in such a manner that people become convinced that they actually are like the characters in his movies. I do not begrudge people who like his work, but I think his methods are dishonest and his films are boring and vapid and completely without substance in an unbearably pretentious way.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 18, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This seems like an argument about how other people interact with his movies

Does anyone wish they were like a character in Rushmore? The middle aged guy whose life is falling apart, or the kid whose carefully-constructed fantasy world is falling apart?

by marc w on Mar 18, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

People don't necessarily wish that they were the characters in Rushmore per se

but they’d like to think they were as witty, esoteric and unique as the characters in Rushmore. It’s not a desire to have their lives, but it’s the desire to believe that real people behave like the characters in his movies. Now that’s not necessarily an issue; screwball comedies and films noir use these techniques as well, and those are by far my favorite genres of film.

The difference, though, is that Wes Anderson’s approach to crafting his characters is so contrived that it seems as though he’s more concerned about crafting a specific type of character rather than crafting a great story. And so while I really dislike his films, I am not trying to say that I think he is without talent; he’s exceptionally good at what he does and he’s obviously more artistically meritorious than Michael Bay, Uwe Boll or Brett Ratner.

Still, his approach to filmmaking really bugs me and I think that the underground’s obsession with Wes Anderson has set independent/artistic filmmaking back in some ways. So yes, it is partially a response to the way people interact with/receive his films but I also believe that he is attempting to elicit these sorts of responses.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 18, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

 I think at this point the backlash to Wes Anderson is far, far stronger than the hype about him back in 1999 or whatever, but I may be misreading that.

Anyway, I do think he’s gotten to character driven at the expense of storytelling, and the Royal Tenenbaums was the height of that where a ‘look’ stood in for an in-depth character (so it was a look or a type at the expense of storytelling). But just as you make an exception for screwball comedies, there are plenty of directors that tilt the balance towards character and away from plot, and they’re not seen as annoying. If you dislike this trait in Anderson, then you must hate, hate, hate someone like Jarmusch or Linklater (not you specifically; people who dislike character-driven filmmaking).
So, uh, holy shit, Richard Linklater directed the Bad News Bears remake?

by marc w on Mar 18, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Jarmusch, but I think he's just flat out better at what he does than Anderson.

His films don’t seem to be nearly as contrived as Anderson’s and I think it’s pretty clear that he intends for them to be character studies. Another possbility? I’m his target audience, something which you can’t say about Anderson.

Linklater is an interesting case. Dazed and Confused is one of my all time favorite movies and I really enjoyed Suburbia as well. Everything else…not so much. It’s interesting to see a director take such a radially different road from his earlier work without becoming overwhelmingly commercial. (As a side note, I didn’t actually hate Bad News Bears as much as I thought I would. It’s quite obviously not in the same league as the original, but it wasn’t horrendous.)

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 18, 2009 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

What would you say is Anderson's target audience?

Something more than, “People like you, marc.”

The nods to classic films in Rushmore (from Bunuel’s ‘Discrete Charm of the Bourgeoisie’ to ‘the Graduate’) seem to put you squarely in the target demographic.

Linklater is an interesting case. I personally don’t really like much of what he’s done, but I just remember the heady days of 1992 or 1993 when ‘Slackers’ was a movie that everyone was talking about, sort of the way Pulp Fiction was a year or two later. And hey, there’s another character-over-plot guy. Yes, he’s really reinvented himself a few times, and I feel like I should pay attention, but there are so many demands on time. Such is life. (I never saw suburbia. Or Waking Life. I kind of feel like I should, but hey, it’s baseball season.)

I guess I think Anderson gets a lot of shit for things people excuse in other, cooler filmmakers. Part of that is the twee factor, and that’s Anderson’s own fault. Part of that is the beauty of the films themselves (again, people love this about any number of French films that aren’t much more than some beautiful young woman looking all beautiful).

by marc w on Mar 18, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Something more than, "People like you, marc.""

People not like me?

I dunno’. His movies don’t connect with me on any level but they do with others. I haven’t thought about it all that much. And I think you’re right; you could make similar criticisms about filmmakers that I do like, but the twee factor makes it difficult for me to ignore the flaws in Anderson’s films.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 18, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Waking Life was beautiful and fascinating

and apparently I’m also the target audience for Wes Anderson films… I assume that’s because I have issues with older male authority figures (father figures/mentor figures.)

by johnbai on Mar 19, 2009 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's so wrong with contrivance?

Indie fans get angry with Wes Anderson because he’s obviously a smart, idiosyncratic and talented film maker, and yet he does not make the films that we want/expect of him. I may not agree with all his choices either, but look forward to his next release moreso than just about any other director.

BTW, did you enjoy The Squid and the Whale (he produced and it has his flavor all over it) ?

by johnbai on Mar 18, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not so much.

Noah Baumbach annoys me as well, although I did like Kicking and Screaming well enough. There’s a better than average chance that the Parker Posey factor had a lot to o with that.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 18, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just stumbleupon'd this.

Hilarious if you have the time to read it.
Link

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 17, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions  

I've trained myself to right-click "open in new tab" everything.

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wheel click it if you have Firefox.

Opens in a new tab.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 18, 2009 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does the same in IE7 as well

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

And on the day

how could I forget Declan McManus.

by msb on Mar 17, 2009 9:41 PM PDT reply actions  

So a friend of mine just finished her rotatations. At 26 she's an MD, and has a doctorate in pharmacology.

She worked nearly full time as a pharmacist while going to med school, and has major bank while most of her compatriots are buried in debt. How insane is that! 26!!!

by Kermit. on Mar 17, 2009 9:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I idn't complain when she picked up the tab for dinner.

She’s loaded, ridiculously loaded. Also, never been on a date.

by Kermit. on Mar 17, 2009 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

-
Also, never been on a date.

And as awesome as I think it is that she did what she did, this is why I don’t envy her in the least.

by Aaron Campeau on Mar 17, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I can't do anything about the date thing

but if she’d like to join my Adopt-A-Grandparent program ….

by msb on Mar 17, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's why I had a kid when I was 19

He could do a full 8 years of college and I’ll still only be 45. Then he can support me in my retirement and I can live a second life as a rad 45 year old

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 17, 2009 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

So apparently bats are interested in going to outer space. Who knew?

The picture is a super close-up view of the fuel tank on the Space Shuttle Discovery, which launched this past Sunday. Needless to say, he died. Click here for the full shot, as well as a brief eulogy. Godspeed, Spacebat

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 9:36 AM PDT reply actions  

The URL reads: "shuttle+riding-bat-dies-the-most-glorious-death-imaginable"

RIP

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 18, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I thought it was pretty appropriate

He is right down at the bottom of the damn thing, too

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

My guess is that they did calculations and figured that there was zero risk of it being there

They already had to push the launch back twice, so to do it a third time because of a flying rat hanging on to the fuel tank would have been asinine. He was sitting low enough on it that he wouldn’t get in the way of anything, so why not send him out in a blaze of glory? As Robert said, it’s better than dying retarded. Or, in the case of this bat, crippled

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

You don't love cute things do you?

Bats, raccoons, pandas…

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 18, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would ride on that thing like it was a horse

That’s awesome

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

D'awwwwww!

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Mar 18, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

SOB

BVASEKETBALL FUCLSED OVER UW - Robert

by royalcurve on Mar 18, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

It wasn't that scary, guys

I find it to be more fascinating than anything. It’s amazing that something that big can move so quickly when need be. This planet never ceases to amaze,,,

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It just lunged at the camera man

What’s wrong with that? I’ll bet that if the camera man had shouted “Crikey!” then it would have been perceived differently.

And Bear Grylls would fight that snake with his fists, and then call it a sissy while eating it alive

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, he'd have brought a camera inside the snake

Since it would have eaten him alive. He’d show you how to live off the land while inside of a snake’s stomach. And while the snake slithered past one of the cameras he would have left setup outside, you would hear the muffled sounds of a harmonica wailing away from inside the serpent

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Crikey!", I've got a friend with a VHS tape of an inspection dive north of Australia.

A sea snake starts attacking his helmet light, right next to the video camera. He’s an Aussie, and he’s yelling “Crikey!” over and over while trying to run away. In underwater slow motion. He really needs to convert that to digital and upload it.

by Kermit. on Mar 18, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have to see this

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please please please get this into a digital format.

I just want to hear someone try to yell “Crikey!” underwater.

by abender20 on Mar 18, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looks like a first person shooter, like N64 GoldenEye perspective.

He’s inspecting pipe, calling out corrosion percentages, in the top of the frame you see this freaking snake getting bigger and bigger. He finally notices it when it’s right on top of him, striking at the light, and starts screaming “crikey mate! crikey mate!” while running away (you can see his arms pumping into view in the lower frame) the snake keeps cutting him off hitting the camera and light mounted on top of his helmet.
The best part is he’s ~90 feet down and due to air compression it sounds like Mickey Mouse with an Aussie accent. Instant viral video. For some reason knowing sea snakes are toxic enough to kill about 20 gazillion people instantly makes it even funnier.

by Kermit. on Mar 18, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Again

I have to see this

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm drunk and that's nasty

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah that was the overdue movie, Anaconda 18: Choke!

It didn’t really have anything to do with the first one, but then I missed the 17 sequels. Crappy plot.

by Kermit. on Mar 18, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like that the video starts off by saying "dead snake"

But then it actually is not dead.

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I practically screamed

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 18, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's probably the coolest thing I've seen all day.

How on earth does that work?

Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?

by .Taylor on Mar 18, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Songsmith is so awesome

That Van Halen one is great, especially since it drops the backing vocals out and you’re left with David Lee Roth going nuts and making noises

I want to poop at your house - Thingray

by tootthekazoo on Mar 18, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm going to see Sounders FC vs. Red Bulls in sweet seats tomorrow.

Anyone else going? The enduring Mrs. will be there, as well as Jr.

Illegible

by kevin_ess on Mar 18, 2009 8:42 PM PDT reply actions  

MLBtv question. Whats the deal with local blackouts?

Any local Seattle subscribers have complaints about home games? I’m about to sign up for this thing, but I’m not going to do it if all the home games are blacked out.

by Kermit. on Mar 18, 2009 9:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait a second, I'm not processing you or BrianL's answers. At all.

Nope, still can’t figure it out. What’s my incentive to by MLBtv for M’s games? I was thinking about MLBtv instead of upgrading the Verizon Fios from internet only to cable, I was enjoying the vision of me in the backyard in a hammock with the computer instead of tied to the tv.

by Kermit. on Mar 18, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you're just watching M's games you probably won't get much use out of it

But you can go back and watch any Mariners game of the past few years, and you can also watch any other teams games that you normally wouldn’t get to see.

by OlSalty on Mar 18, 2009 10:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the M's of the last few years... not so much.

Thanks for the info though, you guys just saved me a few bones. Maybe the postseason I’ll get the month deal, then again I betcha MLB jacks the price up.

by Kermit. on Mar 18, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, the proxy thing everybody mentions for the first 10 minutes of a GT.

What a shitty deal. Unless you’re an M’s fan far far…. far away, then it would be frickin’ great. But I think the M’s area cover approximately 1/3 of the continental US, and probably all of the Asian hemisphere. Parts of Outer Mongolia.

by Kermit. on Mar 18, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you live in Seattle (or the Mariners blackout area), do not travel much, and don't want to watch non-Mariners baseball games

MLB.tv is a waste of money. If you want to watch non-Mariner baseball it’s the greatest thing ever.

Nice Guys Finish Third - Hopelessly lost, but makin' good time.

by pdb on Mar 19, 2009 6:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

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