Open Felix vs. The World [Baseball Classic] Thread
by andrewgolfsalot on Mar 16, 2009 5:09 PM PDT
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PrintFelix vs. Puerto Rico.
Starting now.
Requisite viewing: Here
Winner to the Semifinals.
Loser plays the US tomorrow in a win or go back to spring training game.
Game is on ESPN.
Gameday is here: Link
Ian Snell goes for Puerto Rico which puts out a lineup including Beltran, Rios, Delgado, Pudge, Felipe Lopez, Yadier Molina, and Alex Cora.
Also, feel free to turn this into a Jose Lopez vs. the World thread as well.
Finally, The market for cocaine dried up a bit, worldwide, today.
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Now this is some baseball I don't mind watching right now.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Is it me or does Felix look like he's lost weight too?
Did they fire the sandwich guy or something?
I'd normally blame this on Silva, but can't really do that anymore.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
I hope Mags hits a walkoff homer.
Seriously people, STFU. Keep your politics out of the game.
You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.
ALL HAIL THE MOTHERFUCKING STRIKEOUT KING.
ALSO MLB Media Player is wayyyyyyyyyyyy behind but looks absolutely amazing. In full screen mode it is literally like watching it on digital TV.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
He didn't swing once
That’s……I don’t even know what that is. That’s almost like Betancourt not swinging at crap
Apparently Marco Scutaro played for the Marco Scutaro club last year.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Is that rule?
If it hits the batter, he’s out? Makes it pretty easy for the fielder, doesn’t it?
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
The ball cannot have passed a non-pitcher fielder first.
Basically, someone has to have a chance at it.
Yes.
Otherwise, the runner could just go for the ball and slap it down before it gets to an infielder.
Similar case when a hitter chops a ball right near the plate and hits himself with it on the way down to 1st base.
Good point.
But what’s to stop, say, a 2nd basemen from just tagging a baserunner in the back on his way to third?
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
It doesn't count if the ball is thrown.
It used to 100 years ago but they did away with the rule, presumably because it was so vicious. But since no one can help it if the runner is hit with a ball off the bat, they kept that part of the rule.
They have to get that call right.
There’s no way it didn’t hit him
He's out! Make the call!
Love the crowd chant. OUT OUT OUT!
You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.
On the ground, Felix.
You’re better than that.
Since I don't actually care whether Venezuela wins this game or not
That’s less important to me than whether Felix actually pitches well or not
by Graham MacAree on Mar 16, 2009 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
But he buckled down and got the outs when need. Granted a few were hit quite hard.
He didn't go.
Japan vs Korea is an elimination game? That can't be right.
You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.
Such a bad pitch to swing at considering the sequence.
Even if they were hit&running.
WELCOME TO THE ZONE.
Gimme a K!
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:10 PM PDT reply actions
Okay Felix, good on you for throwing more bendy things.
Now stop hanging them.
I want to make plaster casts of Mike Cameron's face and fire them at hundreds of miles an hour towards Carlos Beltran's head
by Graham MacAree on Mar 16, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
What is with Carlos Beltran trying to fuck Felix?
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by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Ahem.
- fuck over Felix.
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by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Weird. Asterisks turn into bullet points.
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by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
My bad.
Read it as ‘the one Rios hit’. Cause he had the groundball single through the six hole.
He didn't go.
But you establish dominance with the fastball.
Don’t you?
Fuck you, Mel Stottlemyre.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Ian Snell doing pretty well tonight.
What’s the deal?
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
And then the announcers start talking about him.
4-5 against Snell. What a convincing sample size.
He didn't go.
How scared for the U.S. am I when they face either of these teams next game?
Puerto Rico already handed us our collective asses, and Venezuela is no slouch of a team either.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Felix seems to cause mini heart attacks by getting hurt/nearly getting hurt more than any player I have watched.
Seriously, he always seems to be getting into trouble.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
Worst fear realized if he goes down for this season.
Anyone else besides Beltre, Ichiro, or The King… meh.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
That's an awesome song. Crosby Stills Nash and Young.
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Next inning will be single, single, double play, walk, warning track fly for the third out.
King Felix at his finest.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
If they don't take him out, that is.
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
63.
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
~85
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully Yuni saw that.
And had a notebook and a pencil.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
I hoped so much that Felix would have pitched vs. Netherlands, he would have set a new K record
Nice to see him K all those major leagues though
Any of our three OF's get that with a broken leg and a monkey on their back.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Ichiro hurst Felix by not being Venezulean.
You got slurved bitch.
by Slurvey on Mar 16, 2009 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Having fun sporting three lame OF's and a declining Hunter.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Where did Felix get a splitter? From a top hat?
Just checked the gamecast. There’s no recorded splitters on fangraphs. Does he just throw a splitter by royal decree now?
I think Gameday miscategorizes it.
My guess is that it’s a change.
Well that was a somewhat mediocre performance.
Goddamnit Felix.
You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.
It wasn't his stuff that I have an issue with.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Just that he left the ball up then?
He wasnt missing by much when he got the ball down.
He didn't go.
Our issue is that he continues to show very little intelligence on the mound, and hasn't shows much signs of improvement in that regard.
You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.
Meh
The Good:
- Didn’t allow any runs.
- Curveball looked pretty good.
The Bad:
- Too many walks.
- 86 pitches on only 4.2 Innings of work (56% for strikes).
Bad fastball command, too many fastballs.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Sutcliff is an idiot.
I’m sure the pitching coach came out and told Felix that Beltran was his last hitter.
He didn't go.
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by JLC on Mar 16, 2009 6:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Could you imagine using Axe then drinking a Bud Light?
I can’t.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Gave up 40 H and 23 BB in 24.2 IP last year in AA
by shinallsrevenge on Mar 16, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
A paradox of a man.
He is fat, and yet not FAT.
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by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think his head would explode if he won Game 7 of the World Series.
Papelbon x 10, only not as gay.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
He endorses a really shitty video game, that's enough to dislike him
by shinallsrevenge on Mar 16, 2009 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't even get me started.
More dropped cans of corn than you can shake a stick at today.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
Not to mention the 1B randomly stepping off the bag every 3 plays
by shinallsrevenge on Mar 16, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, and the opposing hitters swinging at every single pitch in the zone
and laying off everything out of the zone.
by shinallsrevenge on Mar 16, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Sliders can fix that.
I hate that I have to put the error slider all the way down to five just to fix the outfielders. And they still occasionally drop the easy fly ball.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
I hope you mean at the price he commands, because not liking Lincecum is just plain wrong.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He has let the fame go to his head from what I hear.
But otherwise shame on you.
by Mariner John on Mar 16, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
So does anyone else have an unpleasant premonition
that Felix’ success in the WBC could come at the cost of quality innings next year?
by Bearskin Rugburn on Mar 16, 2009 7:02 PM PDT reply actions
When you consider he has only thrown 9 IP so far, not really.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 16, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really. I don't have any major concerns (aside from the fact that he's a pitcher and is 22) about his durability.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
85 high effort pitches in mid march is a lot
but as they say, from your mouth to god’s ear.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Mar 16, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Glad I stayed up to watch that.
I was encouraged by his early use of the curveball, and the overall control of the curveball which generated some swinging strikes.
He was very inefficient though, however I’m putting that down to how early in the season it is. His fastball command was predictably poor.
Overall, a positive showing. Remember this isn’t like a ST game: these hitters are in playoffs mode and certainly weren’t surrendering their AB’s lightly.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
Those were some great sequences, you're right
makes me wonder how much our coaching staff has been holding Felix back in those terms
by Bearskin Rugburn on Mar 16, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I refer you to my above post.
To summarize:
Fuck you, Mel.
Throw the snacks in the bag and I'm ghost like Swayze!
He went back to the FB when he was in trouble. I'd like to see him move away from FB as blankie.
I should mention that I didn’t get home until halfway through the second though.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
No you're right
it’s too bad he doesn’t have better command of the CB. Cause if he can throw that in a full count its game over.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Mar 16, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he does have pretty great command of it, he's just obsessed with the idea of blowing guys away.
He needs to get over that.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
When he got it down it was at 93 with sink. Live with that and wear your infielders out.
He didn't go.
I wish he would throw his two-seamer more.
If he wants to blow guys away with his FB, he needs to change speeds more.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh
I thought he goes to the FB in hitter’s counts because he’s not confident he’ll hit the zone with the curve. Someone should show him his swinging strike rates by pitch.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Mar 16, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
That AB where he had an 0-2 count and the guy hit it over Abrau for a double is a case in point.
That situ was screaming for an offspeed pitch. Poor calling as well on that pitch.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 16, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
His change to Beltran was a great pitch.
Next pitch? Fastball up and away. Ugh.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If he would pitch backwards once in a while,
I don’t have a problem with him using his fastball to induce swinging strikes then. But only then.
It's not good enough to induce swinging strikes in FB counts though.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
The problem is that he doesn't have great command of his fastball either
So it’s not like it’s a better option really if his other pitches aren’t working.
He throws the fastball when it's not being predicted,
it’s going to induce more swinging strikes and weak contact. No he doesn’t have good command of it, but he does have decent control.
You might even say he's Dunn as an outfielder
by OlSalty on Mar 16, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
Rec'd
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Please refrain from posting a comment this limited in nature.
If you making a post just to say “Rec’d”, just rec the post and be done with it.
I was attempting to be ironic....
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by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
It's been done before many times.
And I’m not jumping on you here, it’s just a practice that is still too widely used on the site so I’m trying to call it when I see it.
In that case, no problem.
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 18, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
When I learned this
I was actually pretty surprised since I hadn’t seen him on defense prior. Somehow I had the impression that he had a good reputation as an outfielder.
He does have a good rep.
Or at least had one. He did win a Gold Glove but I remember talking to Philly fans who were dumbfounded.
That's no triple. That's gone.
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by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions
In the regulare season
Stadium Ground Rules
Ball bounds off any portion of railing around photographers booths, it is in play.
Ball strikes any portion of left-field scoreboard below the uppermost edge, it is in play.
Ball strikes any portion of foul poles in left field above top of wall, it is a home run.
Ball strikes any portion of foul poles in right field above top of wall, it is a home run.
5 of Felix's 7 Ks came on offspeed stuff
And one of the fastball Ks came when he got Ramon Vazquez looking on a fastball a going fastball-change-slider. I don’t know where exactly to find collected info like that, but clearly junk, not heat, is what pushes him from solid to dominant.
Hey R.J., what's the best intro to understanding pitch fX
I understand the speed and break part, but what exactly is the fx? My googling can’t seem to find a good, clear explanation of it anywhere. Thanks!
The ones I used are:
Mike Fast’s glossary as well as here.
Fast’s is a bit technical, so the other one might help you more, although it doesn’t get into how to make the graphs and all, just a general overscope of what pitch types have what breaks and all.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 16, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Check out the flight paths.
Over the top and side view.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 16, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was just using the top down graph when making the point.
But thanks for the graphs. As a math major I find these quite sexy.
He didn't go.
Wonder what the so-called "splitter" pitch is
Looks like he’s trying to use that as an inside pitch on righties the same way he uses the slider on lefties.
FA is your standard fastball.
FF is four-seam.
FS is splitter.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 16, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool.
But isn’t a four seamer a standard fastball? And a two seemer a sinker. I cant think of any other ways to grip the ball.
He didn't go.
Replay rule is in effect
manager can ask for it if there’s a question. I actually just shut off my video feed, can anyone enlighten me what happened?
by Bearskin Rugburn on Mar 16, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions
Replay is good.
A replay isn’t necessary here though. This should be an obvious homer.
You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.
Not trying to say replay is bad.
This is just a shitty time for it. The game was cruising along.
Why not have a LF and RF umpires.
He didn't go.
These fans are crazy
They’re on their feet cheering while the umps are watching slo-mo in the clubhouse.
I can see them missing the call the first time, but it should take one look to get it right.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe a replay umpire like in college football.
Gets another 15 jobs for the economy….
He didn't go.
I will always love you, Robo-Umpire.
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
In the meantime...
my favorite bad call ever. Sorry about the second part of it.
by Bearskin Rugburn on Mar 16, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Good for them
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by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 7:22 PM PDT reply actions
Hooray! Here comes someone who ACTUALLY walks the world.
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by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 7:25 PM PDT reply actions
They need to get that break down to two minutes.
That five minute break was unacceptable.
by Two Rs and Two Ls on Mar 16, 2009 7:27 PM PDT reply actions
hahahahahahaha
What were your emotions when you saw Carlos Delgado strike out?
“What, you didn’t see me in the replay?”
One of LL's finest moments.
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by .Taylor on Mar 16, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone have the link to that GT?
I was at the park so I think I missed it.
by appleshampoo on Mar 17, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions
You were at Safeco??
That must’ve been amazing.
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by .Taylor on Mar 17, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
It was amazing
Probably the best game I’ve attended (but I haven’t been going for that long). Everyone knew what was happening, even the casual fans. Everyone was high-fiving the people next to them after every out. The standing ovation he got when the pulled him was very loud.
by appleshampoo on Mar 17, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions
What the fuck is with Managers making pitching changes in the middle of at bats?
You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.
I know hes a Met now.
But this blows my mind seeing an Angel saving the game for a Mariner. This must be how EnglishMariner feels when Steven Gerrard puts a cross on the head of John Terry.
He didn't go.
The Enemy of My Enemy is My Friend
Although since the Yankee Reich has largely been brought down, is over and I’m liking the Soviet of Fenway less and less.
by Decatur on Mar 16, 2009 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Objectively, perhaps.
But certainly not for me. The Yankees knocked the Mariners out of the playoffs the last two times they were in them. Regarding the Yankees, I feel like the Confederate general who told Joshua Chamberlain at Appomatux “You may forgive us but we won’t be forgiven. There is a rancor in hour hearts which you little dream of. We hate you, Sir.”
Scratch that!
My updated enemies list:
- The Oklahoma Trail of Tears Blazers/Tulsa Rioters/Land-thieves
- The New York Yankees
- The Los Angeles Angels
I thought Oklahoma City shoulda been called the Bandits.
Fits em to a T. And it would give them a nickname rivalry with Dallas. But what do I know. The NBA clearly knew a failed Arena Football League name was better.
He didn't go.
Every time I brought up how bad I thought Stottlemyre would be
people looked at me like I had balls on my chin.
by JI on Mar 16, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
All other loyalties must fall by the wayside when it comes to K-Rod.
The desire for him to face humiliation overrides all.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
Okay, maybe K-Rod cleats himself comically in the foot
and knocks himself out of the game, and the reliever who comes in closes it for Felix.
Then all the righteous are happy.
Even Felix's feelings.
I’m so happy K-Rod signed with the Mets, because it unites a baseball team I love to see destroyed with a player I love to see humiliated.
Patriotism, Pepper, Professionalism
He played for the Angels for God's sake.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Good game.
I look forward to tomorrow. Drunk St. Pattys day, Puerto Rico v USA rematch. So sexy. Too bad its on MLB network, must find good sports bar.
He didn't go.
I can't decide whether I love Cuba's uniforms or hate them more than anything else.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Heres Uni watch's take on the jerseys:
http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2009/03/14/grading-the-classics-part-i/
http://www.uniwatchblog.com/2009/03/15/grading-the-classics-part-ii/
I find Cuba’s appealling because of the uniqueness. If more teams did it, I’m sure I would hate them.
He didn't go.
If they had high socks they'd be gold.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 16, 2009 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The pitchers socks are high. And they are red.
Looks terrible. Like when NFL teams have the same color socks as pants.
He didn't go.
Korea. No contest.
They look like something you’d find in an old action Manga. The Cubans’ uniforms are so monstrous that they’re badass. They are one enormous, insane F-U to Americans’ sensibility – pretty much the way Cuba has rolled since the end of the Cold War.
I must say
The South African jerseys are actually one of the best ones. It is too bad their team blows.
Yeah the flag piping around the sleves is sick.
He didn't go.
by BUCKETSinSB on Mar 16, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Tony Gwynn may line one between third and short right now.
But he would need an oxygen mask to get to first. That bag of doughnuts.
He didn't go.
The guy hitting right now has a nice swing. I wish he would defect and come play DH for the M's.
He didn't go.
I love how Cuba throws the ball around threw the Catcher.
Reward him for getting down the line.
He didn't go.
Nope that stuff only exists for futbol.
He didn't go.
by BUCKETSinSB on Mar 16, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Tells us how you really feel about this.
He didn't go.
by BUCKETSinSB on Mar 16, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate when Steve Phillips talks like a baseball coach.
You weren’t a coach, you were a GM, and a terrible one at that. STFU!
He didn't go.
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