MLS Cup Will Be Hosted by Seattle
by Matthew on Mar 11, 2009 3:02 PM PDT
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PrintSEATTLE (March 11, 2009) – Seattle Sounders FC and the passionate soccer fans in the Pacific Northwest will host Major League Soccer’s premier event, MLS Cup 2009, at Qwest Field on Sunday, Nov. 22 at 8:30 p.m. ET (live on ESPN).
The event was awarded in part as a reward for the Sounders season ticket sales, now over 20,000. For reference, the average attendance at an MLS game during the 2008 season was around 16,400.
For season ticket holders (woo!), the game is labeled as Friendly Match C and thus included in your already purchased package. That joins the Sounders-Chelsea game this summer and the nifty free scarf as perks of being part of the Sounders inaugural season. I am enjoying an ownership group so committed to the fans.
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Things like this are why pro sports leagues should expand their leagues to get teams in new cities
not just blindly steal from others
Also, hi Mr. Bettman.
Please bring us an NHL team.
by Matthew on Mar 11, 2009 3:18 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Distant second to getting a team.
All-star games are lame in general and hockey is no exception.
I always find the NBA all-star game entertaining in an absurdist comedy way
because nobody really bothers to play defense. the NHL one’s the same way but I think the NBA one’s more fun to watch.
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That may be true.
I have not watched the NBA for a long time, so it may be a decent ASG relative to the sport.
If they had an NHL one in Seattle, I would go for the skills competitions only.
The last two minutes of this year's NBA ASG were funny
because every time a guy advanced the ball past the halfway line the defense just cleared out (I mean like headed to the sidelines cleared out) and whoever had the ball just threw up a big alley-oop for whoever was near the basket to slam home. Funny.
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Also
Any chance we could write a letter to the commisioner, or any of the teams that look like they are ready to pack up and leave and try to sell Seattle/Portland to them?
The NHL wants/ed to come to Seattle.
But they will (rightfully) not come here until there’s an arena for them to play in.
There happens to be arena space in downtown Seattle with some money sitting in the pockets of an OKC ownership group that would be fun to take…
there happens to be an NHL-ready arena already built in Portland that would require no additional investment.
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SHUT UP. DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS PERSON
(unless you want to move a team to Portland AND Seattle, which would be holy hell awesome)
Would hockey be profitable enough in all three locations.
Well, I guess Nashville and Phoenix have set the bar low.
The Winterhawks draw between 8-10K on weekends
and typically between 3-5K during the week, with no real publicity of note and a team that sucks. Properly marketed, an NHL team would do well here.
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I am thinking Seattle could do well too.
I mean, there are minor league teams in Seattle, Everett, Tri-Cities, and Spokane. There is definitely a big enough market here.
Ridiculously SSS
but I went to a Silvertips game last month and it was sold out. Which was awesome.
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Everett draws around 6K on average I believe,
Seattle around 5K, and yeah, same deal as Portland. That’s junior hockey.
We may not get the NHL rivalry going any time soon
but a fresh new MLS rivalry could be here soon. And a new Beavers stadium.
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They're managing their expansion better this time around
They’re not trying to take over the US sporting landscape like they did in the 70’s, they’re just finding their niche and maximizing it. They’re being smart about it.
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Seattle this year, Philly next to get to 16 teams.
And then adding 2 teams for, I believe, 2011. And what I think is good is that they’re looking at mostly untapped markets and areas which will provide soccer-specific venues (Seattle being a rare exception). Portland, Vancouver, Ottawa and St. Louis I believe are the leading four cities for 2011.
And they are being a lot smarter about it, letting the league stabilize first before trying to expand coast to coast. Given how low salaries are in the league, I’d bet most of the teams are profitable year in, year out.
And unless their business model has changed
the league owns all player contracts except for one “beckham rule” player which, in combination with the fairly low (by sports standards) salary cap, means the league’s financial picture can’t/won’t be as out of whack as those of the other major US sports because the league won’t let it.
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to clarify
they own even the beckham rule contract, it’s just that the contract signed by that player doesn’t have to abide by the salary cap. Each team gets one of these exceptions, and the rest of the team is subject to the salary cap.
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I know the Beckham rule is realitivley new.
But I thought the league has always controlled the contracts?
Yep. I wasn't clear above.
League ownership of contracts is the big reason the league will probably outlast all the other US soccer league incarnations – from day 1 the league office has been really tight with the finances of the league, in an attempt to grow in a controlled manner and avoid the boom-and-bust that killed the NASL.
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It'll be funny to me when the MLS is expanding in 2011 while the NBA
has half its teams go bankrupt and locks out during 2011/2
Probably the best thing Simmons has written
in quite some time.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
If Simmons were to write exclusively about the NBA, he'd be one of the best sportswriters on the planet
by seattlebruin on Mar 12, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I only read his NBA columns now
his baseball and hockey columns are the worst.
His NFL picks are sort of okay but really the only sport he seems to really know is the NBA.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
If the Key were renovated as a dual NBA/NHL arena
I would be flat out shocked if there wasn’t both an NBA and an NHL team in Seattle within 5 years.
I got confused the other day
when I saw someone on a Kings blog say something about a guy getting sent down to Seattle.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
Are they affiliated with the LA Kings?
I thought the Kings were with Manchester somewhere or another.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
If Man City ever did a tour of the US, and played a game in Seattle in July-Auguest time...
…that might just be the best thing, ever. And playing at Quest would be awesome. And it would be even more hilarious is Seattle beat City.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
And sweet Jesus, 20,000 season ticket holders?!
City only has around 25000 and we have Robinho playing for us!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
It is quite amazing.
ARE YOU LISTENING NASHVILLE AND/OR PHOENIX?!?!
(pssst. Ballmer and Seattle City officials, renovate the Key and we’ll get both an NHL and NBA team back. Guaranteed. Hell, You can even take another $30 million from the suddenly broke pockets of the OKC ownership!)
Maybe the Senators should move to Seattle
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
The Senators are the only team I know the name of so I had a 1/30 shot of make sense.
Assuming it would make sense for that old Seattle team to come back…
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by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I would love there to be an NHL team called the Metropolitans.
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First American ones ever, thank you very much
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We can have a new name and still retain the link to championship past.
Imagine how cool it would be to hang up a 1918 Stanley Cup banner in Seattle?
by Matthew on Mar 11, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Teams in Canada do not need to move.
If anything, they need more (Hamilton first, Winnipeg maybe).
Apparently the Isles aren't in the best shape either
Which would be my ideal team move if we had to uproot a non recent expansion team.
If they got Tavares and then moved to Seattle
I would do something really excitedly.
They have a small arena.
Only seats about 16K
and that arena's on Long Island so it doesn't draw anybody but LI locals
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I guess if you include the Devils.
And there used to be the Hartford Whalers (now the Carolina Hurricanes) in Connecticut. I am guessing four teams was a bit of overload.
Check it.
Phoenix moves back to Winnipeg
Nashville moves to Seattle (woo Admirals!)
Atlanta moves to Portland
Either Islanders or Panthers move to Hamilton
Divisional realignment
Vancouver, Seattle, Portland, Edmonton, Calgary
San Jose, Los Angeles, Anaheim, Colorado, Dallas
Winnipeg, Minnesota, Detroit, Chicago, St. Louis
Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Hamilton, Buffalo
Boston, New York, New Jersey, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh
Washington, Carolina, Tampa, Columbus, Islanders/Panthers
Canada gets 2 more teams
The northwest division gets the SEA-POR-VAN and EDM-CAL natural rivalries.
SJ-ANA-LA rivalry remains intact, addition of DEN makes more geographical sense
MIN gets a close rival in WIN, DET-CHI-STL remain intact
MON-OTT-TOR-BUF add HAM to the intense rivalries
BOS joins in with the NYR-NJ geographical rival, PHI-PIT remains intact
the rest get dumped into the southeast.
You should send this plan to Bettman and co.
The only thing I don’t like is the Panthers being moved. I would rather see the Lightning or Islanders being moved.
I know where it is, I used to live there.
But you are right, from Miami it is very far away. I think they figure that the richer people who retire from up north in West Palm Beach and Broward counties would be more likely to go to games than in Miami.
Maybe I am just biased because I am still sort of a fan. But I guess that should be all the more reason that they move over here.
Plus what Robert said.
To illustrate, attendance ranks since 2001
FLO: 26, 18, 20, 17, 19, 22, 23, 26
TBL: 25, 20, 16, 12, 02, 03, 08, 21
Really, both Florida and the Islanders need to move, but the Isles may just need to move to a new arena.
Poor Islanders
30, 27, 22, 26, 30, 28, 30, 30
"I would rather see the Lightning or Islanders being moved."
Us Bolts fans have suffered enough with Eminger being our best defender most of the season. Don’t take Vinny, Stamkos, St. Louis, and Smitty from us too.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 11, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Graham MacAree on Mar 12, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
three martini breakfasts really take a toll after a while.
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I hear that Winnipeg doesn't have the arena or population for a team
You’re right about Hamilton though. The Toronto area can easily have another team.
FECK I HATE PENALTIES
feel free to delete because this isn’t strictly MLS related. Or at all. but DAMMIT.
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Arsenal I assume, if so, cmon gooners!
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
they're already 1-0 down
eduardo missed the first one
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shootouts are so much more enjoyable
as a neutral.
Better than the old coin flip though.
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I will forever hate them
as I only ever remember England winning one (QF of Euro 96)
Second best moment of my sporting life:
City beating Gillingham in 1999 on penalties after being 2-0 down after 90 minutes.
Felix hitting that opposite field GS is fourth.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Though I also think soccer needs to be faster-paced.
I wonder how it would play with unlimited substitutions (like indoor, or hockey) and/or a reduction down to 10 men a side.
Unlimited substitutions would help the pace I would think
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as long as they don't take 30 seconds to a minute
like they do now
It would have to.
I just wonder how much it would help.
The LI of this shootout must be quite high now that it is 5-5
I need to get out more…
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
7-6 now holy shit!
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm too busy getting my pulse rate back to its resting norm
did I mention I hate penalties? I hate them a little less right now but DAMN.
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His resuscitation makes me both happy and sad
he’s having a much better year than he did last year, which is good to see. He and Bergkamp are my all-time favorite players.
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Barca as a whole are palying so much better
after eliminating that logjam at striker.
I have been doing that all day - my RTTS catcher is suffering from Jeff Clement syndrome though.
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions
ENGLAND ARE TAKING OVER YOUR SHITTY LANDS, EUROSCUM.
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by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
As represented by the first team to field an entirely non-English starting XI
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Why taint your team with crappy English football players?
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
John Terry's bravery only goes so far
oooops he just slipped.
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DIE IN A FIRE.
DON’T MENTION THINGS THAT MAKE ME REMEMBER BAD THINGS.
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry to bring that up
but it was right there, waiting for me, like delicious low hanging fruit.
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Holy jesus balls that was a horrific last penalty
but whatever it takes. Phew. We played like shit btw. Thank goodness Julio Baptista is a secret agent on our side. I don’t see any other way he could have missed that sitter in the end of regulation.
"I am enjoying an ownership group so committed to the fans."
Me too. It doesn’t hurt that their deals with First and Goal, KONG, etc. mean they’re already a force in the league. I’m really excited about this season.
Remind me – where are your seats?
GA section.
I go to matches to be drunk and yell chants.
I think I will. Met a few of the guys and they are very cool.
All about drinking, singing and having fun.
I nearly bought a Sounders jersey
at the Space Needle when I was home on vacation.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
Fuck those fuckers for pricing it at $90.
Beyond ridiculous.
That's what stopped me
I’m not made of money!
Would it be wrong of me to jump off the Galaxy bandwagon and on to the Sounders one?
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
David Beckham will be very upset with you when he gets back from Italy
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It would break my heart if that prick bought the Sounders.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
He won't
Seattle’s not glamorous enough. He’ll probably have a stake in the Galaxy for a long time.
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Beckham might buy an MLS team but in two years he'll get tired of it
and sell it so he can go buy an Italian team
There is probably price skimming present.
Reaching out to those die hard and excited soccer fans before anyone else.
It's $25 more expensive than any other soccer kit, anywhere.
And that includes Premiership, Serie A, National team, other MLS, etc.
Every soccer jersey in the world is around $60-65.
FWIW
They seem to have come down in price:
http://www.worldsoccershop.com/shop-by-team-seattle-sounders.html
$70 pre order from this site.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
On that note Arsenal are changing their away kit next year
so you can pick this year’s absolutely gorgeous away shirt for £20 (about $27 ar current rates).
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They do but it effectively doubles the price so it's kind of a wash
I think shipping’s another 15 pounds or so.
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The price can be justified, depending on how much it changes
English teams, particularly mine change their kits every year… and every year I spend the £80 to buy both the new home and away shirts.
However, if they were £60 each, but were only changed every, say 2-5 years then it would be worth the added price alone.
by Indigo_Satellite on Mar 11, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
English teams change each of their kits on a two year rolling basis
so as to not roll out three new kits (home, away, alt) all at once. There’s always new crap coming out. My favorite one is the Arsenal “special Champions League kit” – the exact same kit with a new font for the letters and numbers of the personalized shirts. They think people will buy anything they throw out there. The sad thing is people do.
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In the Premisership they change it on a 2 year basis
but not when you support a League 1 team. Crewe’s kit gets changed every year, and the price never goes down.
by Indigo_Satellite on Mar 12, 2009 4:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Hmm let's see
This is from the unveiling:
And this is from the team store:
It does look like a slightly different shade.
You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.
TBH I se no difference. :/
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Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 12, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
City Vs Copenhagen in UEFA Cup last 16 second leg!!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Or Aalborg even!
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 11, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ugh i can't wait until MLS folds
At the very least get that soccer junk away from Qwest field, a real sport is played there. This is worse than the pope holding services at mecca.
I have eight watches. None of them are fake.
by RafaelCarmona22 on Mar 11, 2009 6:52 PM PDT reply actions
HEY, YOU SHUT THE [Don't be mean unless you are Graham]
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Mar 11, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey its RafaelCarmona22 here!
You might remember him from such roles as PhilKenSabben in ruining the Bluebird Banter Invasion and not contributing a single thing in his almost 2 year run at LL.
by Robert on Mar 11, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
You sir are erudite and possess well thought out opinions and we appreciate you taking the time to share them.
Please share the rest of them in an audience that would be more receptive. HINT: that audience is not here.
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I'm a walking bundle of contradictions, me
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Wait what?
I’m not a soccer fan but let’s see, having our country’s major soccer league expand to Seattle in a sport that is beloved worldwide and won’t interfere with football, plus helps get lots of Seattle-area residents a soccer fix that doesn’t play in Europe? Sounds good to me!
Plus don’t they pay the city rent to use Qwest Field and bring money into the economy?
by seattlebruin on Mar 12, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Probably best just to leave captain trollpants alone
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Captain trollpants?
How on earth did this person achieve the rank of Captain? He must have been promoted over some much more deserving Commanders to act like this at his rank.
by seattlebruin on Mar 12, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
He's been doing pretty much nothing but troll since he got banned, and yet he's still around.
I’d say that qualifies him for Captain.
by Aaron Campeau on Mar 12, 2009 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather not have qwest trashed.
With the blood baloons and and actual grenades soccer fans love so much.
Oh soccer in the US, im sure the TENS of fans will provide a HUGE boost to the economy. and the 5 or 6 watching at home will also be very happy.
"I will shatter your dreams again and again, and you will never forget the name of.......ssssssss......
by RafaelCarmona22 on Mar 12, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Bwahaha
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 12, 2009 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Theoretically 25,000 does count as "tens"
just, you know, like 2,500 of them.
And given how that’s just season ticket holders, I’m guessing the number of people there will actually greatly exceed that.
On a side note, if you really think there are only 16 soccer fans in Seattle, how in God’s name do you expect them to trash Qwest Field? Suicide bombings?
by seattlebruin on Mar 12, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
There are only 5 structural weak points in the stadium and I am more then prepared to give my life to protect them
by Robert on Mar 12, 2009 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Have you seen soccer?
The fans get so bored they start by chanting as the players dive act like they have broken their legs then magically reenter the game. Then when the one score in the game happens they start throwing flares. After that the full on riot starts, then somehow the stands collapse. then they shake hands and do it again next game.
Vicious cycle IMO.
"I will shatter your dreams again and again, and you will never forget the name of.......ssssssss......
by RafaelCarmona22 on Mar 12, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you seen sixteen people?
they look all kinds of dangerous to me
by seattlebruin on Mar 12, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes yes yessss
I have successfully baited a troll into a banning, I’m rather proud of myself right now!
by seattlebruin on Mar 12, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. Soccer's a cult. That's it.
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 12, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
TENS!
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by Corco on Mar 12, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
I've waited my whole life to say that
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I laughed out loud.
Why would I watch Transformers when I can play with them at my house?
by .Taylor on Mar 12, 2009 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
That's pretty cool
Hopefully it boosts interest in soccer in the region and the Columbus Crew can repeat in Seattle
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This is
really cool. We haven’t really had any big time nationally recognized games up here in Seattle since the Seattle Bowl (that’s what it was called right?) and that was a pretty huge flop.
Here’s to Sounders FC bringing home the MLS cup in Quest!
Bold prediction
Based on the way Seattle sports have gone lately, anything better than last is acceptable. They do even better, I consider it as grounds to have a parade.
I'm just flat out happy
to see MLS in Seattle. Even last place won’t kill me if I get to see a couple of good games.
Oh wow this is awesome news
I had no idea so many season tickets had sold, that’s amazing. I’ve only recently really gotten into soccer and mostly that’s been watching English/Italian/Argentinian games on cable but I can’t wait for this now.
Is this where I rant about Crystal Palace being fucking terrible over the past two months?
Come take my pain away, Sounders FC. Getting the MLS Cup is awesome and testament to Seattle’s ability to support real sports (fuck you, NBA).
Knock yourself out.
Can you tell me if Crystal Palace fans think of Charo every time you hear the name Shefki Kuqi?
There is one name I thought I would never see on LL.
I was at Shea for the Felix-Slam!
Personal M's record: 5-4.
by EnglishMariner on Mar 12, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions
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