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OFTPOTD 02/08/2009 - Hard Root Beer Brewing Pics

I finally did it.  I made my root beer.  Its sitting in the primary right now.

Here’s what I ended up doing:

2.5 Lbs Liquid Pale Malt Extract
1.5 Lbs Molasses
4 oz Dry Pale Malt Extract
12 oz Maltodextrin
14 oz Honey Malt
14 oz Crystal Malt
5 oz Chocolate Malt
8 oz Flaked Barley
2 oz Sarsaparilla
.5  oz Spruce Essence
2 Vanilla Beans
2 oz Star Anise
1 Brewers Licorice Stick
.8 oz Toasted Dandelion Root
2 oz Chopped Ginger Medallions
One smack pack of Wyeast 1056 American Ale Yeast
2 oz Yeast Nutrient

First, I sanitized everything and kept the equipment that would touch the wort in water with Iodine in it, I rinsed thoroughly before using anything.

I did a mash on the malt, ramping the temps from 120-170 over an hour and 30 minutes.  The long boil wouldn't necessary, as the only malt I used that has any diastatic power is the Honey malt. It doesn't have the power to convert other starches.  No I did it because I realized I forgot to smack my yeast pack and had to kill time.  It turned into a nice brown wort.  I only used 1 gallon of water or so, but I don't have a proper brew pot, and was mostly using stuff I already had, like molasses and malt extract.

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Here's before I put it in the bag:

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After I an hour and a half, I poured the wort through a strainer into another pot, then back to the brew pot.  I added the spices, except the ginger, dandelion, and spruce.  I did 2 separate boils for the ginger and dandelion root.  I cut the ginger into medallions and covered them in water and boiled them.  I did close to the same thing with the dandelion.

Boiling Dandelion Root

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After 30 minutes I reevaluated the spice flavor and let it go 15 minutes more.

I slowly poured in the dandelion and tasted as a I went.  I ended up using the whole thing.  I did the same with the ginger, and used the whole thing.  I added the spruce essense, and it doing the same thing, but stopped after .5 oz, I started to taste spruce, but nothing more. 

Spruce Essence from local home brew supply:

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Once the wort was done, I ran the Molasses and Liquid Malt Syrup under hot water to get them to pour easier.  I poured them in and stirred the wort.

I stirred the maltodextrin powder in and the dry malt extract.  I used the dry extract and the liquid, because that is how much I had of each.  The dry extract hardened, so I had to stir until it disolved, about 15 minutes.

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While it dissolved I sanitized the fermenter.  I added 2 gallons of cold water, then poured the hot wort into it, then topped to the fill line using more cold water.

I added the yeast and yeast nutrient to the fermenter and put the lid and airlock on and shook it. 

Yeast and Nutrient:

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Fermenter with root beer wort, yeas, and yeast nutrient.

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Fermenter w/ Lid on

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I'll let it sit in the primary for a week, then siphon to the secondary for 2 weeks, then bottle for a month, then sit the bottles in the fridge and enjoy.

Secondary Fermenter (aka high tech Beer Making device)

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I did things a little differently then I would for beer.  I usually do a partial mash for my beers.  I'll do a post on that sometime, since making beer is fun. 

If you want to experiment, but have limited space, look at a Mr. Beer.  They're 40 bucks and make 2 gallons at a time.  I have 2 of them, and they're fun for experimental beer batches, so you can always use them later.  The 6 gallon bucket and 5 gallon carboy set up is not expensive either, but the higher volume creates logistics issues for all grain and partial mash.  You more or less need a super kitchen, or to do it outdoors over propane.  I do partials on the stove, using a coleman coolor as a lautering tun.

I have some pics of doing an all grain brew w/ a mr. beer. that I'll post those if I can find them.

Misc Pics:

Vanilla

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Anise:

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Some of my pics wont show for some reason.  Oh well.

 

Poll
What kind of beer might you be interested in if I formulated a beer for an LL event. I could make 50-100 bottles depending on a few things, but wouldn't matter. I'll make it to an event eventually, if anything to share beer.
Stout
0 votes
Brown Ale
1 votes
Mild Ale (these can be very yummy)
5 votes
Pale Ale / Bitters
4 votes
Amber Ale
2 votes
Blond Ale
0 votes
Weizen (Berliner Weisse????)
1 votes
Fruit Beer (Kriek, Framboise, Blueberry, etc)
0 votes
Gruit and Herb beer (you have to be open minded here, but it can be good)
0 votes
Spruce Ale (Ginger and Spruce, likely hops)
2 votes
Hard Root Beer
6 votes

21 votes | Poll has closed

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Dark Candi Sugar

Ginger

Grain Mixed together

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 12:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Making beer from extract is super easy

You could get most of the equipment to do 5 gallons of extract beer (including bottling stuff) for under $100, and do a batch for $30-40.

Read this if you’re interested in more info:
http://www.howtobrew.com/intro.html

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 12:44 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Getting into all grain is expensive

My equipment is improper for all grain brewing. I use coolers to do partial mashes. The beer quality is better than extract brewing.

You’ll end up wanting to get lots of stuff to do it right.

A thermometer, hydrometer, iodine drops, sanitizer, cleaner, a brew pot, coolers, hoses, strainers, funnels, etc, etc etc. It’s all what you make of it. It can be messy too.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 12:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One of these days I'll get around to brewing my own beer.

I already have my name and label picked out. Fuzzy Gator ESB with a picture of an Alligator with a fur coat on. Kind of a reference to being a Cajun in Alaska. How expensive is the start up on beer brewing? Less than $500?

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Feb 8, 2009 6:51 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You could get set up

to do extract brewing for $100 plus $30-40 to do a batch. A decent setup will cost closer to $150 because you’ll want a wort chiller. You’ll want a bottle capper too. They’re $20 or so, but you can save beer bottles (pop tops only, no twist offs) so you might not need to buy bottles. I go to Mountain Homebrew in Kirkland (pricier, but close to home) and home brew heaven in everett, which is cheaper, but I got there when my wife wants to go to the fashion bug.

The pot/kettle can get pricey. You could use aluminum, but some people don’t like that. I need a decent kettle, a good one can run $40-$100+, but you can use a $15 stock pot for extract and partial grain stuff.

I’ve added something every couple weeks. A candy thermometer or oven probe thermometer is good for doing mashes because you need to keep an eye on the temperature. A cooler helps for mashes too, because you can mash the grain in a cooler and keep temperature easier. I can’t find my probe thermometer, but will need it soon if I do a mash, keeping the cord in the cooler and checking temps without opening it is crucial.

If you really get into it, there’s lots of little things, some I don’t have, that can help. Things like funnels, brewing spoons, an easy pour siphon, a hydrometer (for measuring gravity and calculating alcohol content), a food scale, a strainer, etc. I had a lot of it, but it was in adequate, so I’ve added a lot more.

You’ll need room to store the stuff, and cook the stuff. 5 gallons of all grain brewing is going to be hard and messy in a small kitchen (trust me on that one). Most people do that kind of a set up out side on a propane burner (like a turkey fryer). I want to get a turkey fryer just for that, but another way to overcome that logistics problem is to do a partial mash, mashing 2-4 pounds of grain, then adding malt extract and other sugars for the rest of the sugars.

I’d really recommend a Mr. Beer to anyone trying to learn, but are unsure. It’s small, easy to use, and most people should be able to make beer in their kitchen with what they have available without making a giant mess. You’ll want to upgrade, but it’s nice for test fermentation, even after you upgrade.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Cool thanks!

I think I’ll actually do this. One thing is for sure, if I start brewing and distributing my own beer I will insist upon everyone calling me “Brewmaster joe.”

Fear the NPE

by thewyrm on Feb 8, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

If you want to do an ESB

get Designing great beers by Ray Daniels. The first 1/3rd of the book is theory and technique, the last 2/3rd is information on most common historical styles and information on traditions and common ranges of all aspects of brewing for each style, from malt to hops to yeast to fermentation temperature to adjuncts to conditioning to mash temperature. You can get an idea of what a standard for a style is and adjust it. I did that with my Mild ale. I’d say that’s a #1 book for any home brewer. All the info on how to do it is on the internet.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm skeptical

of the spices, I think they may not be enough. I’ll sample at bottling, and if necessary, add root beer extract to the priming sugar. I’m going to try to avoid doing that, but may add a little.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 1:11 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Nope, but I'd love to find some

Sam Adams has done a root beer called 1790. I believe it’s hopped as well, which I would have preferred, but since my dad is going to want some, I did it w/o hops. It should be like an early american beer.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how wonderful

until it’s poured into a glass for drinking. My last experiment failed, but I know why, it was ALL molasses, no malt, and had no yeast nutrient, and pitched with dry unactivated yeast directly into the fermenter, and it wasn’t enough yeast. I’ve come along way since that, which was like my 3rd beer. The molasses gave it a funy taste, and I had to chuck it because I let it sit for 2 weeks and showed no signs of flocculation. In retrospect, I probably should have just given it another week or two, and the idea was sound, but I should have used malt in place of most of the molasses. It was supposed to have been a spruce small beer, which still sounds good. I’d love to do a spruce-ginger beer.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Congrats!

I don’t care for beer. I do like root beer a lot though. So congrats and I hope it comes out well!

by mark sobba on Feb 8, 2009 2:34 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

A lot of the flavor of beer

comes from hops. It’s the bitterness people associate with beer, this should remotely resemble beer.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 5:37 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope it comes out well.

If the LL community ever has a meet and greet where we bring drinks; you will have to bring some to let everyone try a bit. You can even have a jar out for the cost of materials.

by mark sobba on Feb 8, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Or I can call it donations to the greater good

ie free beer. A jar wouldn’t be a bad idea though. The cost per bottle will depend on the beer, but it would be $1 or less per bottle.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris, great stuff.

Man, I would love to try some of your beer sometime.

61/755: KGJ's homer totals, or Rosie O'Donnell's age/weight in 2019?

by kevin_ess on Feb 8, 2009 3:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking about doing an LL batch

Except LL Ale would be dark colored, require $50 in hops to appease the hoppy bitter crowd, and be 8-12% ABV, and aged. I’m assuming all that given the relative beer snobbery here. That said, a 60 pack of home brew might be fun for a get together.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I voted for the mild ale.

However, I’m fairly sure I’ll enjoy whatever gets the most votes.

61/755: KGJ's homer totals, or Rosie O'Donnell's age/weight in 2019?

by kevin_ess on Feb 9, 2009 9:08 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I voted Brown

it’s on my mind after having a number of Buzzsaw Brown ales this weekend.

by marc w on Feb 9, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yum

I have a brown ale bottled right now :) Buzzsaw is good stuff. Sam Smiths Nut Brown Ale is a wonderful brown. Beertown Brown is good. I like brown ales, you get some of the yummy malty toasty/roasty flavors, but it’s not intense like a stout or a porter, which can both be very good of course.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 9, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You've inspired me, Chris.

Yes, it’s high time I get off my ass and give this thing a whirl. Hopefully I have as much fun as you did.

Good job.

You're trying to kidnap what I've rightfully stolen.

by Sentinel on Feb 8, 2009 3:19 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Providing a walk-through on your process and all, really neat stuff man.

Similar to some others, this has been one of those hobbies I’ve kept on the back burner for a long time. Putting all this into your OT is good stuff, bookmarked, and also something I’m starting to look forward to on Sundays (without checking, seems like I’m associating these with the weekend/Sunday).

by Kermit. on Feb 8, 2009 4:56 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Sunday is because

I stay up on Saturday drinking beer and decide to get to the OTFPOTD thing first, usually 12-2 in the morning or so.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 5:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I bought a 6 pack of Sierra Nevada ESB

Sierra Nevada uses the same yeast strain for all for their beers, and they bottle condition. You sanitize a jar, like a canning jar, and some aluminum foil. You boil malt extract or corn syrup in a little water, cool it off with cold water, then then add it to the jar, and empty the bottom of a couple beers into it, then put the foil over it with a rubber band and let it start. As soon as it takes off, it’s yeast. You can do that with a lot of beers, but Sierra Nevada is good for it (supposedly, this will be my first attempt at harvesting yeast). Sierra Nevada yeast is supposed to be good substitute for American and California ale yeast strains, basically high attenuation, high alcohol, high flocculation yeast that as a clean crisp taste and doesn’t add a lot of esters and diacetyl (fruity and buttery tastes), and because it’s clean flavored helps the hop flavors stand out.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 5:36 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'd love to harvest

some wild grains, and make an ancient style (uncarbonated) beer using yeast from apple or raisins or honey or wild yeast, and let it ferment and drink it young, all from scratch. Need to be able to make beer in case of the apocalypse you know.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 5:39 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What is

the best baseball game for the Wii?

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 7:43 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

What do you want in a baseball game?

Do you want a sim-style game, a front office/gm-type sim, do you want to have a game that takes advantage of the Wii motion control system?

by Two Rs and Two Ls on Feb 8, 2009 7:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I attached a poll

I’m going to try and make an LL beer. Something I can share in a couple months or so. No hard beers or beers that should be aged, like imperial/double beers and barley wines, or beers that have weird temperature restrictions (Lagers and true scottish ales). I’m willing to do the styles I put in the poll. I’d do a medium alcohol beer for safety and cost reasons.

I’ll make it some day.

BTW, any eastside LLers. I live in the Juanita area right outside Kirkland, so if anyone ever wanted to get together for beer somewhere, it’d be interesting to know who lives near me.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm taking this poll seriously

Whatever wins, wins, and if there’s a tie, there will be a finals. Even if there’s only 4 votes, those will be what counts.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And when we finally decide which beer

We’ll formulate the recipe (I’ll walk through it), with all the math, like sabermetrics, except for beer instead of baseball.

by chrisisasavage on Feb 8, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

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