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Great.

Now I’m going to have to find my OWN news.

it's the economy, Manny!

by section331 on Feb 20, 2009 5:59 PM PST reply actions  

Seriously

I think this post puts too much weight in the run values assigned by UZR.

by Andersean on Feb 20, 2009 6:05 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Remember two weeks ago when everyone here hated the idea of signing Griffey?

Its like this whole drawn-out negotiation process has gotten people way more interested in him.

by vkut79 on Feb 20, 2009 6:39 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think most of us really hated the idea of signing Griffey

we just wanted to make sure that we realized that Griffey wasn’t going to be the savior that the casual fans seem to think he will be.

by seattlebruin on Feb 21, 2009 2:32 AM PST up reply actions  

On other sites

I have seen excited fans say things like:

—I finally have a reason to watch the Mariners again.
—Finally the Mariners will be good again.
—This team would have to be stupid NOT to give the fans what they want to see: Griffey in CF!
—Griffey is going to be rejuvenated by returning to his baseball home. He is going to have an amazing year!
—Griffey will hit 30-40 HRs for the team.
—It is like a real life version of The Natural . No way the Mariners don’t make the playoffs.
—About a month ago I dreamt I was at the World Series. I never dream about baseball. Except right before the 2001 season, when I saw the Mariners having an amazing season. I’m sure we are going to win the World Series, now that Griffey is back!

Not direct quotes but I have seen or heard these statements from several different people.
Everyone is excited and it is understandable to be excited. This site, USSM and all the “haters” were just trying to balance out this excitement with realistic expectations.

If we go into this understanding who the player is; we will not be disappointed when the player fails to live up to our fantasy.
Or stated in another way.
By knowing what to expect, we will be able to cheer the player in moments of triumph and take real joy in those rare moments when they rise above odds.

by mark sobba on Feb 21, 2009 6:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Another one I saw.

“Finally a superstar who isn’t all about the money…”

by appleshampoo on Feb 21, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Well now that Griffey is only making that much anybody making above it is now considered a waste of talent and money.
Bavasi gave those bloated contracts to Betancourt and Lopez much to early. Now those contract appear wasteful, too.

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Feb 22, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

"Bloated?"

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Feb 23, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

It has been interesting to hear his former teammates

(aside from Barry Larkin) downplay expectations, and try to keep fans from expecting the 19 year old…

by msb on Feb 21, 2009 8:05 AM PST up reply actions  

My mom is going to the Griffey press conference.

My folks have a place down in Arizona and they were going this weekend anyways.

She is going to stop off for practice and see if she can get a baseball signed. This could be the best time because the games have yet to start so the crowd will be really low, maybe 30-50 people tops. Plus, I am sure Griffey will be in a good mood being the first day back and all that.

I will update if anything happens.

by mark sobba on Feb 21, 2009 6:53 AM PST reply actions  

"No way the Mariners don’t make the playoffs"

Yeah. I remember my first beer, too…

it's the economy, Manny!

by section331 on Feb 21, 2009 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

We just put Michael Wilson on waivers

Wasn’t he kind of good? Or was he more of a AAAA player?

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 21, 2009 12:36 PM PST reply actions  

He was a kind of good AAAA player.

He might have been useful at some point, but probably not.

(I think marc w likes him and I am fully prepared to be torn a new one now.)

by Aaron Campeau on Feb 21, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't do that.

I think he’s moderately intriguing, and I was looking forward to seeing him in Tacoma, but I’m not irate about this.

It’s not the move I would’ve made, but I understand it.

by marc w on Feb 21, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions  

That and never having played above AA.

I don’t know much about him, but he doesn’t look too valuable.

by Teej on Feb 21, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

He's gigantic, and was lured out of a football scholarship

Then he spent way too long in rookie ball, followed by an injury-riddled 2007.
He made big strides last year, which necessitated his protection, but with the emergence of Saunders, Halman and Wlad, it’s just tough to see where he’d play. I still think it’d be cool if they could somehow keep him, but I’d tend to doubt it.

Apparently hit some 500 foot HR in a practice game last spring.

by marc w on Feb 21, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the info.

I was wondering what was up with the slow progression.

by Teej on Feb 21, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Griffey plans on showing up at our houses, eating our food.

Hey, let’s talk about something interesting!

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Feb 21, 2009 12:55 PM PST reply actions  

Griffey starting to argue with reporters

And so it begins.

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Feb 21, 2009 12:57 PM PST reply actions  

AND HERE COMES HANK STEINBRENNER WITH A CHAIR!

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Feb 21, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Wait what the hell who's coming out !?!?!

It’s PETA! What are they doing here!?! and OH! NO! They’re just ganging up on him somebody stop them! OH! NO! Not the lawsuit! They’re dropping the lawsuit!

BOOYA! You got Slurved!

by Slurvey on Feb 21, 2009 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Griffey admits to the cloning!

You can't hide from the omnipresent eye.

by Goose on Feb 21, 2009 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

Ichiro curses a lot.

Ichiro makes wild accusations about the reporters heritage and their relationship with their parents.
However, if the reporter can stand for 3 days in a row at his locker; Ichiro will answer any question the reporter has, as long as the question does not end in a preposition.

Ok, just a disclaimer I could be wrong since I have only had one lesson in Japanese so far, and it was about a month ago.

by mark sobba on Feb 21, 2009 10:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Still not as bad as the nameless reporter

who asked Don Wakamatsu two or three questions about being the first Japanese-American manager in baseball.

by BrianL on Feb 21, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Tomorrows headline

“Griffey kicks 6 year old son out of house”

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 21, 2009 1:10 PM PST reply actions  

Anyone know if

the press conference is going to be posted on the web anywhere? I missed it.

by appleshampoo on Feb 21, 2009 1:22 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty classic day with the press for him

uncomfortable in the actual press conference to start, getting sillier as it goes along, much looser in the one-on-ones depending on the person (teasing Niehaus, for example)

by msb on Feb 21, 2009 1:48 PM PST reply actions  

You know, he always had his mom's bootay...

but he sure has filled out like his dad, now that he is almost 40.

by msb on Feb 21, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions  

THE MAN WITH GLASSES!

I’m guessing its the fat guy in the red shirt.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 21, 2009 2:28 PM PST reply actions  

Drayer just said that she'd requested statements from Ichiro & Joh from Japan

and they’d been sent over—

Ichiro’s begins, "In 1989, when I was 16, I bought a Ken Griffey Jr jersey … "

by msb on Feb 21, 2009 2:43 PM PST reply actions  

Poop watching MLB Network just now made me realize

I missed a chance to see Strasburg pitch against my school last night.

Of course I would’ve had to drive to Compton to do this.

(Screw the first person who tries to make a joke about USC being in Compton, the game is part of the MLB Urban Invitational and not on campus).

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Feb 21, 2009 3:54 PM PST reply actions  

Wait

USC played LBSU last night, hmm was that an old high light package they were showing or a team with uniforms similar to ours?

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Feb 21, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Wishing there was an edit function

It was Bethune Cookman. Strasburg went 5.2, threw 105 pitches according to Tony Gwynn and had 11 Ks 2 BB, 3 H 1R 0 ER.

You know what? Fuck you Sports Gods, fuck you.

by bluemax on Feb 21, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I forgot all about Strasburg.

God I hope Bowden still has some stupid left over from stock-piling outfielders.

by Omerta on Feb 21, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Churchill:
In related news, Betancourt weighed in at 184 pounds in Peoria, down from the 198 he posted a year ago, and the 195 he weighed in 2007. Some believe he was 205-ish for most of last season.

by redwolf75 on Feb 21, 2009 9:34 PM PST reply actions  

Yup.

What I heard was Yuni was given the option to go down to work out with Raul or stay in Seattle and work with the team trainer. Either way, the team wanted to make sure Yuni would be working out during the winter.

by mark sobba on Feb 23, 2009 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Uh-ohs.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/baseball/401022_mari22.html

They have already decided Griffey will be in left field when his legs feel fine. When baseball’s active leader with 611 home runs says he needs a break, he’ll be the DH.

by eponymous_coward on Feb 22, 2009 3:32 AM PST reply actions  

That's an AP story, if you watched the conference they never directly said he'd be in LF when he was ok.

Griffey’s fine with DHing, we’re just trying to throw him a bone by saying “yeah, Ken will play the field when he feels he can”

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Feb 22, 2009 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Baker said in his video today that he doesn't think the M's are considering starting him in LF.

When you think about it, they’ve never said “He’s the left fielder” and when he signed Wakamatsu made a point to say he’s ok with being the DH, if I recall correctly.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Feb 23, 2009 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Niehaus interviewed Griffey yesterday and asked about playing CF.

Griffey said he would play CF if the team really needed him too. He did not sound very excited about doing it.

After listening to Griffey yesterday I think he doesn’t want to think of himself as a DH. So he will think of himself as an Out Fielder who DHes when the team needs him to. It is a pride issue.
It really doesn’t matter what Griffey calls himself, LFer, DH/LF, Player/Coach, SuperStar!, as long as he trusts the manager to do what is best for the team.

The blog community’s guess that Griffey will appear in 5-20~ games (starts and spot appearances) in the OF will be close to correct.

by mark sobba on Feb 22, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

I sure hope so.

I guess spotting him in the OF during Felix/Silva starts (and subbing in Endy lots in late innings defensively or as a PR) would be OK (read: suboptimal but not a disaster on the same scale as playing him when a flyball pitcher is on the mound)- but really, I think even 20 games in the OF is going to be kind of low (that’s less than once a week during the season). I think 1/3rd OF and 2/3rds DH is more realistic, and it could be even more.

by eponymous_coward on Feb 22, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Update-free Monday too?

You’re walking on thin ice, Jeff.

by Double06 on Feb 23, 2009 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

Fake.

I will smash your face into a jelly.

by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Feb 23, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

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